You get to keep your constitutional rights until you start noticing too much. If you do so a brigade of faggots come take it away little by little. First they downvote you, then they burry your comments in spam. If nothing works they'll ban you, and remove your content. If people have been paying attention to you they'll to as far as asking the admins to mess with the database so logs don't pick up their shenanigans. TBH we're not save even in a sub created by a rebel. Sooner or later we will have to migrate to Telegram. Then all that will be left here is a bunch of faggots like mods, jeets, jews, and bots. It is already happening.
There's no such a place in the internet anymore. This is not the 90s anymore Dorothy. Every single platform out there is being taken over by yiidish faggots. Just look at how long Telegram CEO has been in jail in France with no reason much less perspective to get out. Sadly the internet is dead. I hope you've got a good VPN and you're good at prepping.
You have to stay out of free speech conversations since you were so afraid of the truth that you banned me from several communities in advance :)
In fact, the mere fact you are still allowed here shows mods are too lax on the real offenders. You even banned the conspiracies mod in your communities, and are still here complaining about censorship. How ironic is that?
Call people whatever you want. Whatever happened to "sticks and stones" and just allowing the individual to block individuals who bother? Relinquishing this individual power to anyone like a "mod" is retarded.
We shouldn't be taking down any legitimate comments because of 'language'.
I was under the impression that we are adults here and not whiny little bitches who just got to their first college class.
Edit: I've used the block button here for some users I didn't like for my own reasons. I never messaged any mod to have someone banned or have their comments trimmed. Seriously, if you don't like some user, just block them.
What's your submission statement? This would be an excellent post to have one rather than to just drop a fact and not propose a constructive way forward.
I may not agree with the "mossaderators" (which I actually wholeheartedly do) but it is funny and relevant on several levels. Squashing this does nothing but push censorship which leads to an intentional dumbing down. There's a conspiracy for y'all
Well... Looks like this place has contracted a bad case of the big gay. That's what happens anytime you put a woman in charge of anything. Tracked words bullshit is an excuse. Anyone who gives a shit is using a VPN on the site anyways.
I'm pretty sure we do not know each other? Or had any direct communication on here... So I'm not sure why you are acting like we have a personal relationship?
The simple truth here is that this is supposedly a forum for adults. Naughty words that you have decided, you don't like, shouldn't be off the table. You are now using some lame AI tracking excuse to deflect from your own lack of principles.
They could have a myriad of words they are tracking and probably are. So it's ridiculous to pick a few words and say those are off limits. Also, as I pointed out earlier.. You should leave the security of a person's online presence to remain their responsibility. No one comes to this site and expects their speech to be curtailed because a moderator has decided certain words are being tracked more than others. That's just retarded.
If it's not pornography, child abuse, torture and gore posting, credible threats, doxxing, spam trolling or self promotion... Then you shouldn't be doing a thing about the content here.
Seems to me, this is a personal choice you made. That is unnecessary and is being done for your own reasons. For example, you want to grow the sub's reach and you think certain language impedes that. Or because the site admins pressured you to do so.
Let users determine for themselves what is acceptable language on here and block people as they deem appropriate.
No one cares how long it has existed. When it can be used by a censorious unprincipled coward, then it was obviously a bad rule to begin with.
I stated what the valid reasons are a mod would have to censor a user. If any moderator on here is doing more than that (which unfortunately many do) then they shouldn't be a mod.
I'm sorry sir, but "conspiracy" is banned for use on this forum, because it's attacking the user and not the argument, and the AI overlords track its use, so I'm going to automatically censor anyone who says the wrongthink, on behalf of those in power, because I know better than you!
I'm being sarcastic here, but unfortunately these are the exact arguments the new mod is using to censor people here.
Citation needed. I played the game and edited my last comment as you asked for, but I find it very distasteful and do not believe people are being thrown from their homes for calling other people retards on the Internet
So people posting violent threats against public figures is somehow akin to non-violent banter against pseudo-anonymous people? No one is coming to anyone's door over someone using a bad word online. And if they eventually do use AI to catch us, you're just as fucked as the rest of us simply by being here. If you're concerned about AI it should be due to its capabilities in sentiment analysis - prior algorithms had to flag no-no words as wrong speak but this is not so any longer now that an idea can be somewhat reasonably extracted from a large series of text
Intelligences are looking for excuses, admin is also aware of this and that's probably why certain words are included in the filter settings. Instead of enacting filter settings here I'm asking people to watch themselves.
Really? And their excuse isn't going to be any of the useful information shared here, any of the suggestions of violence, it's going to be us calling each other retards and faggots that's going to get them to do what exactly?
Ok so now we're getting away from that facetious argument - rule 1 has always been here - and as a community we came to an understanding of what "respectful" was. When I'm with my friends we call each other all sorts of things that would apparently get me thrown in a gulag, this community was the same way. All sanitizing this place is going to do is make it like anywhere else
Ya trump admin is about to pardon Israeli queen Maxwellhill so they are going door to door. They will jail you if you boycott Israel. But that's not an excuse to take away first amendment. If they try to imprison you for boycotting then you can always go to court and eventually you will be let go, usually.
But I agree with harassment part. Harassment is illegal. But where did you draw the line? I am not clear about the line in this forum. If I am having a conversation with you and i call you a derogatory name then it might be a harassment but what if I call somebody else a name who isn't in this forum?
What if I call ehud, mileikovsky, trump or Biden a derogatory name?? You never dated that you won't delete them...
Most importantly is this even a free speech forum? If it isn't then let me know
That's the main issue anyone here ever wanted addressed. We don't want deliberate disruption of normal conspiracy posts. We don't care if someone uses bad language in their post provided it's not simply a post to troll or meta troll or other non-sensical crap. We just want conspiracy posts in conspiracy, not low level trolling and garbage.
I don't care if it is the supposed Jewish trolls or the supposed Nazi trolls.
Posts deifying Hitler are low effort troll / spam posts meant to cause drama by dishonest actors. Posts pushing for stupid theories like "antinatalism" are also low effort troll / spam posts . It is not rocket science. Just make people take that behavior elsewhere, simple as that.
Even if you have a good point to make, how are you going to win mods over by cursing them out? It's counter productive.
I think some bad language should be allowed though, just not directed towards the poster in place of a real argument.
EDIT: I agree with him on looking into some of the newcomers who swarmed in here with a bunch of drama starting nonsense. Vlad, despite being abrasive, isn't thriving on drama like those guys.
I think some bad language should be allowed though
Oh, how absolutely magnanimous of you! Thank you so much for allowing me to say some of what I want.
just not directed towards the poster in place of a real argument
Block. Button.
Child rape hurts my feelings way more than hurty words; are we going to ban any mention of it? Or maybe you'll allow us to use ghey little substitute words like Youtube?
We are adults talking about serious issues. If you can't handle either hurty words or abraisive users, you don't belong on a conspiracy forum.
Funny coming from someone who sure does sound upset.
you don't belong on a conspiracy forum.
Nothing about "a conspiracy forum" implies that all kinds of behavior must be accepted. We are, however, allowed to talk about ugly truths, including the one you are acting like people wanted to censor.
And speaking of hypocrisy, the people you are defending, like your free speech champion JG5 and his nazi buddies banned me from several communities in advance because they couldn't handle my (accurate) criticism. So cry me a river.
If you weren't so upset, you'd see I am defending Vlad as someone who should not be banned. But I'm also criticizing him for being counter productive. You don't get to come to a community and tell the mods "you need to accept my behavior, no matter how it violates the rules. oh and let me just abuse you as I please and you better take it and do as I say". Common sense.
If he handled it better, he could have a real discussion like "does having certain bad words in a post title alone really violate any existing rules?". Historically the answer has been no. This mod has his or her own ideas about certain words being fed trigger words to draw attention here.
At risk of more heat, I note this is clearly a topic where people want to express strong opinions even without a formal call for vote. Here's a representative quote from each contributor and a categorization, strictly IMHO:
Looser enforcement (11) (17):
AndurilElessar: bad case
ApexVeritas: arguments Redditors use to ban wrongthink [Add]
BeefyBelisarius: mod too heavy-handed
BlueDrache: Until thisisnotanexit is removed for overmoderation, I'll unsub [Add]
CrazyRussian: direct opposite to any "free think"
defenderOfMontrocity: free speech
Entropick: RIP c.win
free-will-of-choice: the power to make not available what one freely thinks about
JDooliddle: Respect if you confront me directly as an individual
JosephGoebbel5: slave mentality
NotACat: gray and detarded
Standhaft_Garithos: Why would I bother putting up with this [Add]
TallestSkil: the letters are physically able to be typed
That_Which_Lurks: Proof? There is none [Add]
VeilOfReality: the idea is don't say no-no words because AI might come after us?
Versus001: they grab their modrator shejkels [Add]
WeedleTLiar: going to power trip [Add]
Neutral (1):
Questionable: no idea
Current enforcement (4):
AnotherInTheFire: what substance do slurs bring to the discussion
SwampRangers: The issue is respect
Thisisnotanexit: language not available in this community
TurnToGodNow: cursing counter productive
(Side note: Admin decided to put exactly two words in their default global filter, allowing mods (as here) to disable the default. It seems a very reasonable position to regard those two words as more sensitive for that reason alone, even though this doesn't indicate what position the community should take. But the tracking argument doesn't deal with the real issue, namely that the rule is about a respect argument.)
I much prefer this, where a community rapidly develops a clear consensus on majority and minority opinions! However, I see only one response from within the majority that actually addresses the Rule 1 that we have been handed down and that indicates the way we used to proceed here (and I was writing here occasionally and lurking regularly too). So I don't think the community has yet demonstrated a harmony of these two tensions, the respect rule and the freethinking site summary.
Is it really possible to respect a person and not be attacking them while calling them a derogatory name? There is a meta answer, namely yes if everyone covenanted together that they would not receive namecalling as an attack; I'm not sure that this community is ready for that. The community still seems to have quite a few people subscribing to double standards, namely people who "just know" that something others say against them is an attack but something they say against others is not. And for that it takes level moderation.
I would invite everyone to consider that question. See if comments are removed for using slurs that are fully respectful of other views and opinions. We can except comments that respectfully mention slurs rather than use them, because while we're talking about slurs we may well name them recognizing how others use them without using them that way ourselves; but that's the vast minority. In OP, there is one comment that mentions slurs rather than using them, and I appeal to u/Thisisnotanexit to restore that comment for that reason, as a transitional clarification. Others may appeal that other contributions may take advantage of the use-mention distinction. The restriction is not against the string, but against the disrespect.
But I suspect that no comment was removed for using slurs that could be considered fully respectful. I submit that in TINAE's comment below, she could say that "all are derogation", not just some. She can also separate out the mention of derogation from the use of it. If any of the majority view can propose a way in which a newcomer could read the rules "respect other views and opinions" without "calls to violence" and see everyone called every vile name in the book and reconcile the two, I'm all ears.
(BTW, one compromise is to allow a little leeway for slurs but to note that all posts intending Wild West language should be flagged NSFW by the contributor on pain of deletion, and namecalling comments could be deleted if the thread is not so flagged. This hides them from newcomers by default, and regulars would be asked to understand. However, I think this would be a significant rule change from the past intent and should not be a matter of a couple hours' opinion polling.)
I don't think the argument would be sustained that this is a community where egregious namecalling and dehumanization is "respect" for other opinions.
"respect other views and opinions" without "calls to violence" and see everyone called every vile name in the book and reconcile the two, I'm all ears.
I can respect an argument while having zero respect for the one making it. Case in point: Imp.
"Views" and "opinions" don't deserve resepect. Any asshole can form an opinion, just as any asshole can decide they're offended. I don't care and mods certainly shouldn't either.
blah blah blah feminine bullshit
This is exactly why women (and simps) should not be mods.
We are trying to discuss conspiracies that deal with, among other things: transhumanism, cannibalism, child rape, and human sacrifice. No one who gets their panties in a twist about hurty words is emotionally mature enough to deal with this subject matter. They don't belong here, simple as. If a conspiracy forum is more concerned with feelings that the truth, no matter how brutal, then it's not worth the electrons.
The sidebar is: "Please respect other views and opinions, and keep an open mind."
Add:
I can respect an argument while having zero respect for the one making it.
The other sidebar is: "Be respectful. Attack the argument, not the person." And: "abuse of other users here, may all be removed at moderator's discretion."
I don't see that having zero respect for another human and using abusive terms harmonizes with the rules as conceived by the original mods and community. But I haven't read the new thread yet, maybe that'll be a better approach for your concern.
So you have absolutely zero argument, which I could at least respect, you just appeal to the rule that you decide is legit.
You are pathetic: you don't even have any real power and it's already gone completely to your head. You are not a person who should have authority over anything.
Edit: Nice stealth edit, very transparent...
If we were speaking in person, I would have respect for you as a human being. I wouldn't physically attack you, deprive you of autonomy, etc.
But we aren't. I'm not engaging with you as a human being, I'm engaging with words on a screen. I don't even know that you're human. And if you are, I don't know that you aren't simply acting out a character for nefarious purposes.
I always here feminoids going on and on about respect. Well, if respect is worth anything it must be used judiciously. My respecting you means nothing if I also respect piles of pig shit. You haven't done anything to earn my respect, and your arguments haven't either. I literally cannot respect you, regardless of the rules.
What you're talking about is not respect, it's validation. You want me to treat you as though you are acting in good faith and putting forth good arguments, regardless of whether that's the case, which completely removes any incentive on you to do either.
That is a great way to obfuscate the Truth; putting up with bad actors because it would be mean to put them in their place.
you just appeal to the rule that you decide is legit.
Um, the community is founded on the principle that the rules are legit and agreed by the community and the mods. I asked again a couple months ago and the community affirmed the rules again. If you disagree with the rules as written, you should get community support for it. I have no problem with a community formally deciding that its rules need changing.
Says the guy who bans people in advance because he's afraid of being exposed. You got mad I called you out for being a liar and Hitler worshiping blasphemer (who uses alts to astroturf), and banned me like this was on reddit.
I said cursing at mods is counter productive. I am actually fine with axolotl_peyotl's previous enforcement which allows profanity but not trolling.
Low IQ bait and troll posts used to be removed, as well as harassment, but someone expressing how they feel about a conspiracy (like calling people slurs) was not. It's just not a hill I will die on since I don't generally use slurs.
^ Then I'm the second Christian pointing out that profanity and obscenity per se are neither against the rules nor being lined up for censorship. Much as I disapprove, I accept the rules. Profanity might be low quality, and might attack the person of Jesus, but those are not the problems this convo is dealing with.
Maybe. I find, though, that there's a sweet spot where the honeypots are still trying to catch flies where they'll let you say anything.
The last ten years have taught me that there is no based forum, just psyops that you can turn to your advantage for a short time, before you head off to greener pastures.
I have no doubt that, as this site shuts down, there will be plenty of new ones talking about the Epstein Files in ways that will be shut down here. (Isn't it funny how this drama is kicking off just as the biggest confirmed conspiracy, maybe ever, is being exposed?)
So the alt using astroturfer is again lying. No rules have been put in place to ban you from talking about any particular conspiracy.
You're a dishonest actor who admitted you wish to drive users away yourself https://imgur.com/a/CECwggj Any opinion you have on this community should be viewed in that light.
That's not banned. Your low IQ troll posts are banned though.
And if we had good moderation, you and the antinatalist / nazi alts you astroturf with should be banned. I mean you literally banned the mod here from your communities and are still here complaining about the mod. That is hilarious.
Says the guy who bans people in advance on his communities for calling him out.
I called you out as a liar, fake Christian and alt using astroturfer. Remember? You also banned the current mod for challenging you :) So the irony is rich.
You are complaining about a mod, while in your communities that very same mod was banned. You also banned me because you couldn't handle me calling you out.
I acknowledged the majority view, in fact stated it before anyone else did, and proposed a compromise. I am fine with participating in a community with agreed rules and an agreed moderation team.
The community has by default agreed on a rule of respect. Now I point out that the community has a large segment that don't see a dichotomy between this rule and freedom to call names and dehumanize. Ordinarily, those who are vocal in a short period should not get to outshout those who established and upheld the rule. If the meaning of the rule is to change from its plain text, this should be agreed by the community more formally so that it doesn't become an informal belligerence.
Test case: How is it respectful for you to use the disparaging, often offensive term "cuck" to me? I submit that it isn't.
Test case: I don't know any of you assholes; most of you are probably either bots or paid agents. Where does respect come into that?
I can respect an argument, if it makes sense, is internally consistent, and fits all available facts, regardless ofnwho makes it. If we're here to have discussions in pursuit of Truth, I'm all for it.
Your opinion/view is that by banning words that our enemies say we shouldn't say we'll, what? Attract more users? Avoid the government murdering us in our beds? Certainly not facilitate the pursuit of Truth...
I don't respect that, and some pissant rule makes zero difference to me.
If you want to interpret that nobody need respect other users because the rule is about respect for arguments (under the name of views and opinions), that would at least be consistent.
But it doesn't deal with "attack ... not the person" and "no ... bullying 'meta'" and "calls to violence and/or abuse of other users here, may all be removed".
Scored terms are that if you don't agree with community rules your contributions can be moderated. Flat. Standard across all common carriers. By implying yourself free to break the rules, terms require the moderator to be prepared to deal with violations.
I did read the thread, which is why I summarized it and pointed out the core tension isn't fully dealt with, just as above. If I should have focused on attack, bullying, violence, and abuse rather than respect, that's semantic.
When you namecall or dehumanize another user, that's abuse and may be removed; what other interpretation could there be? It can also fall under personal attack and bullying, and often violence.
If (as conspiracists might) you subscribe to a theory of government where you are not bound by Scored terms, I don't think that's negotiable, you might need 8kun. If your theory is that all prior members and mods can be ignored and only those who are active right now count, as soon as you step away from the screen the cabal may use its alts to get you banned in absentia; that's why I don't recommend that theory.
Anyway, try the new thread, unless you can answer how abusing users somehow complies with all those other clauses against abusing users.
(Edit: some of) Vlad's comments have been removed for using language not available in this community, some are derogation, some are that plus also being tracked/flagged words by the global surveillance state to incriminate and discredit actual conspiracies and their truth sifters. Rule 1 is now back in enforcement.
Derogatory term relating to black people starting with n
(Both are flagged and tracked)
Retard, mongoloid, faggot, Nazi, goy, soyboy, pajeet, goatintercourser, namecalling like shekelstein, pedo (unless it's actually the pedo), I think you get the idea right? We are to be attacking arguments and worldviews.
You do understand that we'll just make up new slurs, right Bleeder? This does nothing other than take us on the first step of the slippery slope of arbitrary mods, who didn't even found the board, deciding what users are allowed to say.
I use m-w.com, if there's a deprecatory usage note that's a pretty good indicator of a no-no word. They don't put a note on nazi, but she is willing to include political slurs like others.
a) "Conspiracies.win: This is a forum for free thinking"...if others have the power to make not available what one freely thinks about, then others are conspiring against one.
b) Kike/kikel - "circle" + nigger/negra - "black" represent the main tools for deception aka circular thinking (logic) and the absence of light (ignorance) within a deceived being.
Linear thinking implies enlightenment, which circular logic blackens...
If you force somebody to not name kike a kike or nigger a nigger - you are directly trying to fuck with someone brain and change his way of thinkings and so change himself in the way you, not him, like.
It is a direct opposite to any "free think".
Take a look who excactly decide what is "derogatory" and what is not. It is a very interesting and bright ethnic picture.
Also, there is cultural things. In Russia we just have no other word to name people of negroid race except "Π½Π΅Π³Ρ"(negr/nigger), and the word "black" have definite negative connotation, like someone who serve evil. And everything is OK.
All that artificial limitations on using one or another term always forced on population to manipulate human way of thinking, If you succed in banning use of "kike" word, then you could manipulate all things imaginable.
tracked by the global surveillance system
And why do you think that people here give a fuck? Fuck this surveillance system. Fuck all that three letter agencies. The only remained way to actually defeat this surveillance is not give any fuck and it starts from abandoning all that centralised messengers and social networks. First thing you could do as moderator to not give a fuck to surveillance is to disable that shitty feature of embedding Youtube and Twitter links here. Leave links, disable embedding. You literally feed that bastards with surveillance over c.win users. And then whine about surveillance.
I don't really give a fuck to this embedding, since I'm not registered in any of that social crap, but others could be. And this will be real and direct leak of their identities to that surveillance.
You say that you are worry about surveillance and, suddenly, instead of real mitigating with this problem, you decide to ban "derogatory words". Ban social shit embedding, if you really care. If you don't do that, then it is high probability you are after completely different goals.
Here's the secret trick that tyrannical governments don't want you to know: they don't have enough manpower to arrest even a quarter of the population.
Their power comes from fear, from people voluntarily censoring themselves and others in order to avoid reprisals, as though it makes one whit of difference.
How the fuck did the only people on the whole board who don't understand this end up as mods?
here's a thought. there may come a day, if communists are put in power of our glorious nation like they almost were, you'd be on their list. just saying maybe think about the future
You're goddamned right I'll be on the list and not hiding in my fucking basement ratting on my neighbours. People like you are the exact reason people like that get away with dragging people out of their homes for "hate speech".
"There go the Johnsons. Oh, well, I guess they shouldn't have openly resisted tyranny, hur dur"
I respect that Russians' ears may not be attuned to the difference decided in America between negr, Negro, Niger, and other similar forms. Trust me on this, it's not the same as you describe in Russian. I can say "kafir" to my heart's content here but I can't in South Africa, that's legally actionable and worse in their eyes than any of the words discussed here. I had to learn the territory.
The issue is respect. It's possible to use a slur word respectfully, but this is rarely done here. Free thinking and respect are not opposed. If someone could make a case that there is broad respectful use of slurs going on, that might tip the evidence.
Enabling more outside sites would be nice but is an advanced programming issue and not expected of the mods, who are volunteers. People are free to make text posts with links in them, which might be more efficient overall than link posts; that can be done by common consent. Perhaps your tech expertise has some specific advice on this that would save anyone from trying to vibe-code it with AI help?
There is no territory in internet. There is no borders. And this is the way to completely destroy one of the basic thing used to manipulate consciousness by TPTB.
The issue is respect.
Respect is not something given by default. Respect should be deserved. And it is in no way connected with what you believed are "slurs".
When you demand respect for nothing, it does not provide real respect. It just destroy the whole concept of respect, and there become nothing and nobody to really respect.
All that "unacceptable slurs" idiocy comes from severe indoctrination and false premise that the whole world should follow a single design you think is "right". It is not. All "slurs" are fully deserved from the point of view of one who use them. Instead of trying to understand the reasons, you think it is better to ban them and swipe the whole layer of important thing under the rug.
If somebody here can't see behind the "slur" and unwind the whole background story and info you get with "slur", then such person have no place here. He is too dumb and fully bought by propaganda.
If you name me "orc", well, then, first, "For the Horde!" to you, and secondary - I get a big chunk of information about your cultural background. Same with "kafir", "snowflake" or "goyim". That's like a section that gives a megabytes of information squizeed in one word. This helps a lot to make a sensible conversation.
Enabling more outside sites would be nice
It wouldn't. Even links to outside sites leak at least your IP and browser fingerprint to the owner of that otside site. Imagine you want to find some information about users of some forum. All you need is to create an unique link on your site with whatever "interesting" thing you think will attract target audience, and put it on that forum. Since this link is unique, only people from that forum will visit it. And voila - you have a list of forum users IPs and fingerprints of their browsers. It is more than enough to find tons of information across social networks and other shit if you are friendly with that social networks owners or admins.
Embedding is much worse.
And this is exactly what attract most attention to this tiny and barely noticeable place. Somebody dig something unique, but tracked in Twitter, post it here as a post with embedded tweet and Twitter owners get a flow of user data,
The whole point of such small boards like c.win is to have a place to talk about anything without much attention. Since it is negligeable in user count (few dozens or something), it does not deserve resources to spend, like billion users social networks. But with embedding feature you simply attach this borad to all that social crap.
If you want a more or less safe way to share and discuss information you think important to share - then it's easy. Nothing prevent posters here to write (or copy) the essence of their link in text and provide a straight link for those who want to dig deeper. I really can't understand where an art of writing or even copypasting text go, so posting a fucking screenshot of text become mainstream, but I don't see any obstacles to ressurect this lost art.
Nothing needs to be altered in the engine of that silly reddit-like forum. Only thing is necessary is just willingness of community.
We implies a suggested pluralism tempting a free thinking singular being into a consensus controlled by others...derogatory words represent the tools used to establish such a consensus.
Notice the use of talmudic reasoning with the word "nigger" aka censoring it among white; advertising it for black, while luring both sides into a conflict of reason against one another...a circular (kikel; kike) conflict. Sounds like a conspiracy, right?
Btw...WorldStarHipHop aka THE "nigger" site on the web; owned by MediaLab AI Inc is run by a jew named Michael Heyward, just like the Hip Hop movement branding blacks as "Boyz n the Hood" + "Niggaz Wit Attitudes" + "Public Enemies" and a "Menace II Society" was jewish. Again..sounds like a conspiracy, right?
How could such conspiratorial malevolence be exposed if a free thinker is being moderated in speech?
Slurs are suggested to one another...the substance of the word used as a slur has to be shaped first. The deception lies within the substance...not those deceiving each other with slurs aka with outside branding (idolatry).
As for discussion...few aren't discussing with many how to conspire against them. Few trick many to discuss conspiracy with one another, while ignoring few.
Discussing implies argument aka arguing minds...that's the deception.
Disagreement implies versus agreement aka turning against one another based on circular logic...that's what the term kike/kikel - "circle" was designed to distract from.
It was a jewish comedian named Leo Calvin Rosten who made up the Ellis Island story about using a circle (kikel) instead of a cross. That's the same jew who defined chutzpah as "that quality enshrined in a man who, having killed his mother and father, throws himself on the mercy of the court because he is an orphan".
I dunno I think maybe users would like to see this place flourish, and if every other word used is a slur, they will not want to stick around. we could be missing out on others' information. it's just a real bad look, I don't know why people don't understand this.
Respect if you confront me directly as an individual rather than rely on some "mod" con to supposedly do all the "dirty" work. Flourishing comes from freedom, the opposite of what you are promoting.
At minimum, used "slurs" bring great information about the cultural, political and other backgrounds of the person you talking to.
Also, if your opponent use "slurs", that means he will not talk to you with that disgusting fake smile and bosomed stone. If a man name ass an ass, then there could be a talk.
If you don't see that, than what are you doing at conspiracy forum? The whole point of many conspiracies is hiding shit behind some fake smile and good intentions. If conspiracy theorist do the same, then how he is different to conspirators?
the only thing that anyone wants to "hide" is k and n because it turns people away!! are you so selfish you wouldn't want more eyes-on? you're really something man
You just mentioned global surveillance system. Umm did Christine Maxwellhill contacted you and threatened to cut off your feet like she cut off her husband Al seckels feet because she thought he gonna leak info about googles secret data harvesting program
The elites murder, rape, and eat children. Nothing happens to them. But if you call people retarded on the internet then you're in big trouble.
Why would I bother putting up with this retarded website if it gets censored too?
100%
I came here specifically because Reddit was censored (and Ruqqus shut down).
If mods are going to power trip here too, I may as well go back; at least there are more than 10 users on r/Conspiracy
You get to keep your constitutional rights until you start noticing too much. If you do so a brigade of faggots come take it away little by little. First they downvote you, then they burry your comments in spam. If nothing works they'll ban you, and remove your content. If people have been paying attention to you they'll to as far as asking the admins to mess with the database so logs don't pick up their shenanigans. TBH we're not save even in a sub created by a rebel. Sooner or later we will have to migrate to Telegram. Then all that will be left here is a bunch of faggots like mods, jeets, jews, and bots. It is already happening.
I thought this is a free speech forum as long a so curse the politicians and come with conspiracy theories.
For research purposes does rumble have a forum?? What other sites have free speech? Do I need to go back to 4chan or something? Damn
There's no such a place in the internet anymore. This is not the 90s anymore Dorothy. Every single platform out there is being taken over by yiidish faggots. Just look at how long Telegram CEO has been in jail in France with no reason much less perspective to get out. Sadly the internet is dead. I hope you've got a good VPN and you're good at prepping.
PS: notice
Janniez rubbing their hands together so that their hands are warm when they grab their modrator shejkels:
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You have to stay out of free speech conversations since you were so afraid of the truth that you banned me from several communities in advance :)
In fact, the mere fact you are still allowed here shows mods are too lax on the real offenders. You even banned the conspiracies mod in your communities, and are still here complaining about censorship. How ironic is that?
So I wasn't a liar then. Thanks.
Do you believe Jesus came only for white people?
What was factually incorrect about what I said you did?
Call people whatever you want. Whatever happened to "sticks and stones" and just allowing the individual to block individuals who bother? Relinquishing this individual power to anyone like a "mod" is retarded.
Seriously, is the block button broken?
I can't believe we're even having this conversation outside of Reddit...
In a conspiracies forum no less.
Interesting movie. Much seems true. Fishyman, Paleo, Imp1, the list goes on.
Dangnabbit, I do not fink I appeared in da moooobie.
soooo saaaad
You're an astrofurfing disruptor and a hypocrite.
You even banned the conspiracies mod in your communities, and are still here complaining about censorship. How ironic is that?
You've described yourself perfectly.
It's not. And I've used it on this forum extensively.
So do you think we need to take down legitimate comments because of the language used? Or are we adults who can be trusted to protect ourselves?
We shouldn't be taking down any legitimate comments because of 'language'.
I was under the impression that we are adults here and not whiny little bitches who just got to their first college class.
Edit: I've used the block button here for some users I didn't like for my own reasons. I never messaged any mod to have someone banned or have their comments trimmed. Seriously, if you don't like some user, just block them.
The powers that be regard us as too dumb to take care of ourselves so stop complaining and do whatever the nannies tell you or else.
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What's your submission statement? This would be an excellent post to have one rather than to just drop a fact and not propose a constructive way forward.
Seems pretty obvious that he's saying the moderation is too heavy-handed.
Why do you think faggots like to wank each other?
I may not agree with the "mossaderators" (which I actually wholeheartedly do) but it is funny and relevant on several levels. Squashing this does nothing but push censorship which leads to an intentional dumbing down. There's a conspiracy for y'all
I don't have one.
I was always insulted for making one on this forum.
I'm not going to force my opinion into this.
I have no idea of what's going on here.
"Hey goy, you didn't frame your post on my terms, which limit your ability to say what you need to. Why are you acting in bad faith?"
Unbeleivable.
Well... Looks like this place has contracted a bad case of the big gay. That's what happens anytime you put a woman in charge of anything. Tracked words bullshit is an excuse. Anyone who gives a shit is using a VPN on the site anyways.
Ya know, that really hurts coming from you. There is no more hiding from AI guys.. It's best to play this one close to the chest.
I'm pretty sure we do not know each other? Or had any direct communication on here... So I'm not sure why you are acting like we have a personal relationship?
The simple truth here is that this is supposedly a forum for adults. Naughty words that you have decided, you don't like, shouldn't be off the table. You are now using some lame AI tracking excuse to deflect from your own lack of principles.
They could have a myriad of words they are tracking and probably are. So it's ridiculous to pick a few words and say those are off limits. Also, as I pointed out earlier.. You should leave the security of a person's online presence to remain their responsibility. No one comes to this site and expects their speech to be curtailed because a moderator has decided certain words are being tracked more than others. That's just retarded.
If it's not pornography, child abuse, torture and gore posting, credible threats, doxxing, spam trolling or self promotion... Then you shouldn't be doing a thing about the content here.
Seems to me, this is a personal choice you made. That is unnecessary and is being done for your own reasons. For example, you want to grow the sub's reach and you think certain language impedes that. Or because the site admins pressured you to do so.
Let users determine for themselves what is acceptable language on here and block people as they deem appropriate.
We've had interactions over the years, understandable you don't remember, I rarely forget things.
Rule 1 stays.
You're personal, arbitrary rules are in effect. Yes, we know. That's what this whole post is about.
Also, considering your lack of rebuttal to my perspective on your position... I'd say, I hit the bullseye as to what you're motivations are. Pathetic.
Rule 1 has always been a rule in this community.
No one cares how long it has existed. When it can be used by a censorious unprincipled coward, then it was obviously a bad rule to begin with.
I stated what the valid reasons are a mod would have to censor a user. If any moderator on here is doing more than that (which unfortunately many do) then they shouldn't be a mod.
There are other places to talk the way you and others have suggested and I suggest you go there then.
Lmao! My 15 minutes of fame went by and I didn't even notice!
You remind me of "Wrong Way Go Back", a wikipedia adminn.
And you just get to decide that, do you? For everyone else? For our own good, is it?
Classic toxic femininity.
It's almost like they're all in it together. What's the word for that? Ah! It's a conspiracy!
I'm sorry sir, but "conspiracy" is banned for use on this forum, because it's attacking the user and not the argument, and the AI overlords track its use, so I'm going to automatically censor anyone who says the wrongthink, on behalf of those in power, because I know better than you!
I'm being sarcastic here, but unfortunately these are the exact arguments the new mod is using to censor people here.
So the idea is don't say no-no words because AI might come after us?
They are going after people, literally showing up at people's doors, I think we can be smarter.
Citation needed. I played the game and edited my last comment as you asked for, but I find it very distasteful and do not believe people are being thrown from their homes for calling other people retards on the Internet
Not retards no but that is a rule 1 thing.
I was watching videos of people recording law enforcement at their doors asking about internet content.
So people posting violent threats against public figures is somehow akin to non-violent banter against pseudo-anonymous people? No one is coming to anyone's door over someone using a bad word online. And if they eventually do use AI to catch us, you're just as fucked as the rest of us simply by being here. If you're concerned about AI it should be due to its capabilities in sentiment analysis - prior algorithms had to flag no-no words as wrong speak but this is not so any longer now that an idea can be somewhat reasonably extracted from a large series of text
Intelligences are looking for excuses, admin is also aware of this and that's probably why certain words are included in the filter settings. Instead of enacting filter settings here I'm asking people to watch themselves.
Seperately, rule 1 has always been here.
Really? And their excuse isn't going to be any of the useful information shared here, any of the suggestions of violence, it's going to be us calling each other retards and faggots that's going to get them to do what exactly?
Ok so now we're getting away from that facetious argument - rule 1 has always been here - and as a community we came to an understanding of what "respectful" was. When I'm with my friends we call each other all sorts of things that would apparently get me thrown in a gulag, this community was the same way. All sanitizing this place is going to do is make it like anywhere else
How does one differentiate retard being used in fun vs in disrespect?
Ya trump admin is about to pardon Israeli queen Maxwellhill so they are going door to door. They will jail you if you boycott Israel. But that's not an excuse to take away first amendment. If they try to imprison you for boycotting then you can always go to court and eventually you will be let go, usually.
But I agree with harassment part. Harassment is illegal. But where did you draw the line? I am not clear about the line in this forum. If I am having a conversation with you and i call you a derogatory name then it might be a harassment but what if I call somebody else a name who isn't in this forum?
What if I call ehud, mileikovsky, trump or Biden a derogatory name?? You never dated that you won't delete them...
Most importantly is this even a free speech forum? If it isn't then let me know
Rule 1 includes attacking users.
The 2 words I want avoided are included in the filters but instead of engaging those I'm asking people to watch themselves.
I will say I really think intelligences are in real life policing attacks on public figures, for what that's worth..
Sounds like you don't have the stomach to go up against tyranny...
"I read it in the controlled media"
Scored is officially gray and detarded
It has been like that for half a year now lmao
RIP c.win
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He was nice 2 me!
holyfuckingshit are there really 203 comments? enough with the bickering. let's talk more conspiracy
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Well. Until thisisnotanexit is removed for overmoderation, I'll unsub. It's all I can do. Shame. It was a good run.
I made a comment on this other post that I think sums it up nicely. Correct me if I'm wrong (unless you're JG5 or his alts then go away) https://communities.win/c/Conspiracies/p/1ARwwpoCZf/mods-were-demanded-because-of-ne/c/4eZDpN54P9K
Here is the only rule enforcement that most people really wanted.
If you make alts to troll, harass and/or start drama here, as some dishonest actors clearly do/did (shown here -> https://communities.win/c/Conspiracies/p/1ARwwpoCZf/mods-were-demanded-because-of-ne/c/4eZDpN3xvyF), you are gone. Take that behavior elsewhere, simple as that.
That's the main issue anyone here ever wanted addressed. We don't want deliberate disruption of normal conspiracy posts. We don't care if someone uses bad language in their post provided it's not simply a post to troll or meta troll or other non-sensical crap. We just want conspiracy posts in conspiracy, not low level trolling and garbage.
ADDENDUM:
And case in point here https://media.scored.co/post/5XlawD1nQMb7.jpeg
And case in point here https://media.scored.co/post/LqJBvKHIL3bD.jpeg
And they just made a new alt because they don't respect your authority at all https://communities.win/u/NotannAltofJG5/
I don't care if it is the supposed Jewish trolls or the supposed Nazi trolls.
Posts deifying Hitler are low effort troll / spam posts meant to cause drama by dishonest actors. Posts pushing for stupid theories like "antinatalism" are also low effort troll / spam posts . It is not rocket science. Just make people take that behavior elsewhere, simple as that.
See this guy thrives on endless bickering.
He's #000000 while we're #FFFFFF LOL
You bring almost nothing to discussion and are being banned for constant disruption.
Even if you have a good point to make, how are you going to win mods over by cursing them out? It's counter productive.
I think some bad language should be allowed though, just not directed towards the poster in place of a real argument.
EDIT: I agree with him on looking into some of the newcomers who swarmed in here with a bunch of drama starting nonsense. Vlad, despite being abrasive, isn't thriving on drama like those guys.
Oh, how absolutely magnanimous of you! Thank you so much for allowing me to say some of what I want.
Block. Button.
Child rape hurts my feelings way more than hurty words; are we going to ban any mention of it? Or maybe you'll allow us to use ghey little substitute words like Youtube?
We are adults talking about serious issues. If you can't handle either hurty words or abraisive users, you don't belong on a conspiracy forum.
For your own mental health, fuck off.
Funny coming from someone who sure does sound upset.
Nothing about "a conspiracy forum" implies that all kinds of behavior must be accepted. We are, however, allowed to talk about ugly truths, including the one you are acting like people wanted to censor.
And speaking of hypocrisy, the people you are defending, like your free speech champion JG5 and his nazi buddies banned me from several communities in advance because they couldn't handle my (accurate) criticism. So cry me a river.
If you weren't so upset, you'd see I am defending Vlad as someone who should not be banned. But I'm also criticizing him for being counter productive. You don't get to come to a community and tell the mods "you need to accept my behavior, no matter how it violates the rules. oh and let me just abuse you as I please and you better take it and do as I say". Common sense.
If he handled it better, he could have a real discussion like "does having certain bad words in a post title alone really violate any existing rules?". Historically the answer has been no. This mod has his or her own ideas about certain words being fed trigger words to draw attention here.
I think I'm gonna have to make a post for clarity on Rule 1 again, I guess.
Couldn't hurt
Lol, sure
Clarity is a good idea, to bring what the mod is thinking to light.
Meta post approved for mod transparency
At risk of more heat, I note this is clearly a topic where people want to express strong opinions even without a formal call for vote. Here's a representative quote from each contributor and a categorization, strictly IMHO:
Looser enforcement
(11)(17):AndurilElessar: bad case
ApexVeritas: arguments Redditors use to ban wrongthink [Add]
BeefyBelisarius: mod too heavy-handed
BlueDrache: Until thisisnotanexit is removed for overmoderation, I'll unsub [Add]
CrazyRussian: direct opposite to any "free think"
defenderOfMontrocity: free speech
Entropick: RIP c.win
free-will-of-choice: the power to make not available what one freely thinks about
JDooliddle: Respect if you confront me directly as an individual
JosephGoebbel5: slave mentality
NotACat: gray and detarded
Standhaft_Garithos: Why would I bother putting up with this [Add]
TallestSkil: the letters are physically able to be typed
That_Which_Lurks: Proof? There is none [Add]
VeilOfReality: the idea is don't say no-no words because AI might come after us?
Versus001: they grab their modrator shejkels [Add]
WeedleTLiar: going to power trip [Add]
Neutral (1):
Current enforcement (4):
AnotherInTheFire: what substance do slurs bring to the discussion
SwampRangers: The issue is respect
Thisisnotanexit: language not available in this community
TurnToGodNow: cursing counter productive
(Side note: Admin decided to put exactly two words in their default global filter, allowing mods (as here) to disable the default. It seems a very reasonable position to regard those two words as more sensitive for that reason alone, even though this doesn't indicate what position the community should take. But the tracking argument doesn't deal with the real issue, namely that the rule is about a respect argument.)
I much prefer this, where a community rapidly develops a clear consensus on majority and minority opinions! However, I see only one response from within the majority that actually addresses the Rule 1 that we have been handed down and that indicates the way we used to proceed here (and I was writing here occasionally and lurking regularly too). So I don't think the community has yet demonstrated a harmony of these two tensions, the respect rule and the freethinking site summary.
Is it really possible to respect a person and not be attacking them while calling them a derogatory name? There is a meta answer, namely yes if everyone covenanted together that they would not receive namecalling as an attack; I'm not sure that this community is ready for that. The community still seems to have quite a few people subscribing to double standards, namely people who "just know" that something others say against them is an attack but something they say against others is not. And for that it takes level moderation.
I would invite everyone to consider that question. See if comments are removed for using slurs that are fully respectful of other views and opinions. We can except comments that respectfully mention slurs rather than use them, because while we're talking about slurs we may well name them recognizing how others use them without using them that way ourselves; but that's the vast minority. In OP, there is one comment that mentions slurs rather than using them, and I appeal to u/Thisisnotanexit to restore that comment for that reason, as a transitional clarification. Others may appeal that other contributions may take advantage of the use-mention distinction. The restriction is not against the string, but against the disrespect.
But I suspect that no comment was removed for using slurs that could be considered fully respectful. I submit that in TINAE's comment below, she could say that "all are derogation", not just some. She can also separate out the mention of derogation from the use of it. If any of the majority view can propose a way in which a newcomer could read the rules "respect other views and opinions" without "calls to violence" and see everyone called every vile name in the book and reconcile the two, I'm all ears.
(BTW, one compromise is to allow a little leeway for slurs but to note that all posts intending Wild West language should be flagged NSFW by the contributor on pain of deletion, and namecalling comments could be deleted if the thread is not so flagged. This hides them from newcomers by default, and regulars would be asked to understand. However, I think this would be a significant rule change from the past intent and should not be a matter of a couple hours' opinion polling.)
I don't think the argument would be sustained that this is a community where egregious namecalling and dehumanization is "respect" for other opinions.
I can respect an argument while having zero respect for the one making it. Case in point: Imp.
"Views" and "opinions" don't deserve resepect. Any asshole can form an opinion, just as any asshole can decide they're offended. I don't care and mods certainly shouldn't either.
This is exactly why women (and simps) should not be mods.
We are trying to discuss conspiracies that deal with, among other things: transhumanism, cannibalism, child rape, and human sacrifice. No one who gets their panties in a twist about hurty words is emotionally mature enough to deal with this subject matter. They don't belong here, simple as. If a conspiracy forum is more concerned with feelings that the truth, no matter how brutal, then it's not worth the electrons.
Futhermore: nigger.
The sidebar is: "Please respect other views and opinions, and keep an open mind."
Add:
The other sidebar is: "Be respectful. Attack the argument, not the person." And: "abuse of other users here, may all be removed at moderator's discretion."
I don't see that having zero respect for another human and using abusive terms harmonizes with the rules as conceived by the original mods and community. But I haven't read the new thread yet, maybe that'll be a better approach for your concern.
So you have absolutely zero argument, which I could at least respect, you just appeal to the rule that you decide is legit.
You are pathetic: you don't even have any real power and it's already gone completely to your head. You are not a person who should have authority over anything.
Edit: Nice stealth edit, very transparent...
If we were speaking in person, I would have respect for you as a human being. I wouldn't physically attack you, deprive you of autonomy, etc.
But we aren't. I'm not engaging with you as a human being, I'm engaging with words on a screen. I don't even know that you're human. And if you are, I don't know that you aren't simply acting out a character for nefarious purposes.
I always here feminoids going on and on about respect. Well, if respect is worth anything it must be used judiciously. My respecting you means nothing if I also respect piles of pig shit. You haven't done anything to earn my respect, and your arguments haven't either. I literally cannot respect you, regardless of the rules.
What you're talking about is not respect, it's validation. You want me to treat you as though you are acting in good faith and putting forth good arguments, regardless of whether that's the case, which completely removes any incentive on you to do either.
That is a great way to obfuscate the Truth; putting up with bad actors because it would be mean to put them in their place.
Um, the community is founded on the principle that the rules are legit and agreed by the community and the mods. I asked again a couple months ago and the community affirmed the rules again. If you disagree with the rules as written, you should get community support for it. I have no problem with a community formally deciding that its rules need changing.
Community support? Are you serious? Did you not read the entire rest of this thread?
Who put you in charge, anyway?
Says the guy who bans people in advance because he's afraid of being exposed. You got mad I called you out for being a liar and Hitler worshiping blasphemer (who uses alts to astroturf), and banned me like this was on reddit.
I said cursing at mods is counter productive. I am actually fine with axolotl_peyotl's previous enforcement which allows profanity but not trolling.
Low IQ bait and troll posts used to be removed, as well as harassment, but someone expressing how they feel about a conspiracy (like calling people slurs) was not. It's just not a hill I will die on since I don't generally use slurs.
^ Then I'm the second Christian pointing out that profanity and obscenity per se are neither against the rules nor being lined up for censorship. Much as I disapprove, I accept the rules. Profanity might be low quality, and might attack the person of Jesus, but those are not the problems this convo is dealing with.
As usual, the absolute last people who should have power have been handed power.
Maybe. I find, though, that there's a sweet spot where the honeypots are still trying to catch flies where they'll let you say anything.
The last ten years have taught me that there is no based forum, just psyops that you can turn to your advantage for a short time, before you head off to greener pastures.
I have no doubt that, as this site shuts down, there will be plenty of new ones talking about the Epstein Files in ways that will be shut down here. (Isn't it funny how this drama is kicking off just as the biggest confirmed conspiracy, maybe ever, is being exposed?)
So the alt using astroturfer is again lying. No rules have been put in place to ban you from talking about any particular conspiracy.
You're a dishonest actor who admitted you wish to drive users away yourself https://imgur.com/a/CECwggj Any opinion you have on this community should be viewed in that light.
That's not banned. Your low IQ troll posts are banned though.
And if we had good moderation, you and the antinatalist / nazi alts you astroturf with should be banned. I mean you literally banned the mod here from your communities and are still here complaining about the mod. That is hilarious.
Says the guy who bans people in advance on his communities for calling him out.
I called you out as a liar, fake Christian and alt using astroturfer. Remember? You also banned the current mod for challenging you :) So the irony is rich.
Couldn't weasel your way out of that could you?
You are complaining about a mod, while in your communities that very same mod was banned. You also banned me because you couldn't handle me calling you out.
Why the mod isn't banning an obviously dishonest actor https://imgur.com/a/CECwggj https://media.scored.co/post/LqJBvKHIL3bD.jpeg, is beyond me.
You an the astrofurfing alts you came here bickering with should be banned.
I notice every insult, but not liar.
I acknowledged the majority view, in fact stated it before anyone else did, and proposed a compromise. I am fine with participating in a community with agreed rules and an agreed moderation team.
The community has by default agreed on a rule of respect. Now I point out that the community has a large segment that don't see a dichotomy between this rule and freedom to call names and dehumanize. Ordinarily, those who are vocal in a short period should not get to outshout those who established and upheld the rule. If the meaning of the rule is to change from its plain text, this should be agreed by the community more formally so that it doesn't become an informal belligerence.
Test case: How is it respectful for you to use the disparaging, often offensive term "cuck" to me? I submit that it isn't.
Test case: I don't know any of you assholes; most of you are probably either bots or paid agents. Where does respect come into that?
I can respect an argument, if it makes sense, is internally consistent, and fits all available facts, regardless ofnwho makes it. If we're here to have discussions in pursuit of Truth, I'm all for it.
Your opinion/view is that by banning words that our enemies say we shouldn't say we'll, what? Attract more users? Avoid the government murdering us in our beds? Certainly not facilitate the pursuit of Truth...
I don't respect that, and some pissant rule makes zero difference to me.
If you want to interpret that nobody need respect other users because the rule is about respect for arguments (under the name of views and opinions), that would at least be consistent.
But it doesn't deal with "attack ... not the person" and "no ... bullying 'meta'" and "calls to violence and/or abuse of other users here, may all be removed".
Scored terms are that if you don't agree with community rules your contributions can be moderated. Flat. Standard across all common carriers. By implying yourself free to break the rules, terms require the moderator to be prepared to deal with violations.
I did read the thread, which is why I summarized it and pointed out the core tension isn't fully dealt with, just as above. If I should have focused on attack, bullying, violence, and abuse rather than respect, that's semantic.
When you namecall or dehumanize another user, that's abuse and may be removed; what other interpretation could there be? It can also fall under personal attack and bullying, and often violence.
If (as conspiracists might) you subscribe to a theory of government where you are not bound by Scored terms, I don't think that's negotiable, you might need 8kun. If your theory is that all prior members and mods can be ignored and only those who are active right now count, as soon as you step away from the screen the cabal may use its alts to get you banned in absentia; that's why I don't recommend that theory.
Anyway, try the new thread, unless you can answer how abusing users somehow complies with all those other clauses against abusing users.
(Edit: some of) Vlad's comments have been removed for using language not available in this community, some are derogation, some are that plus also being tracked/flagged words by the global surveillance state to incriminate and discredit actual conspiracies and their truth sifters. Rule 1 is now back in enforcement.
Seems like the letters are physically able to be typed together. Is there a formal list somewhere of the no-no words we canβt use anymore?
Typing out the words would be counter productive.
Derogatory term relating to Jews starting with k
Derogatory term relating to black people starting with n
(Both are flagged and tracked)
Retard, mongoloid, faggot, Nazi, goy, soyboy, pajeet, goatintercourser, namecalling like shekelstein, pedo (unless it's actually the pedo), I think you get the idea right? We are to be attacking arguments and worldviews.
So, no strongly worded opinions?
I would like to stop using the tracked words in any context.
Rule 1 to be enforced when directed at a user instead of offending their argument and worldview.
You do understand that we'll just make up new slurs, right Bleeder? This does nothing other than take us on the first step of the slippery slope of arbitrary mods, who didn't even found the board, deciding what users are allowed to say.
Says the guy who banned anyone who criticized him here on all his other communities :)
What was factually incorrect about what I said you did?
I use m-w.com, if there's a deprecatory usage note that's a pretty good indicator of a no-no word. They don't put a note on nazi, but she is willing to include political slurs like others.
a) "Conspiracies.win: This is a forum for free thinking"...if others have the power to make not available what one freely thinks about, then others are conspiring against one.
b) Kike/kikel - "circle" + nigger/negra - "black" represent the main tools for deception aka circular thinking (logic) and the absence of light (ignorance) within a deceived being.
Linear thinking implies enlightenment, which circular logic blackens...
We can free think without derogatory words and the derogatory words flagged and tracked by the global surveillance system
You can't.
If you force somebody to not name kike a kike or nigger a nigger - you are directly trying to fuck with someone brain and change his way of thinkings and so change himself in the way you, not him, like.
It is a direct opposite to any "free think".
Take a look who excactly decide what is "derogatory" and what is not. It is a very interesting and bright ethnic picture.
Also, there is cultural things. In Russia we just have no other word to name people of negroid race except "Π½Π΅Π³Ρ"(negr/nigger), and the word "black" have definite negative connotation, like someone who serve evil. And everything is OK.
All that artificial limitations on using one or another term always forced on population to manipulate human way of thinking, If you succed in banning use of "kike" word, then you could manipulate all things imaginable.
And why do you think that people here give a fuck? Fuck this surveillance system. Fuck all that three letter agencies. The only remained way to actually defeat this surveillance is not give any fuck and it starts from abandoning all that centralised messengers and social networks. First thing you could do as moderator to not give a fuck to surveillance is to disable that shitty feature of embedding Youtube and Twitter links here. Leave links, disable embedding. You literally feed that bastards with surveillance over c.win users. And then whine about surveillance.
I don't really give a fuck to this embedding, since I'm not registered in any of that social crap, but others could be. And this will be real and direct leak of their identities to that surveillance.
You say that you are worry about surveillance and, suddenly, instead of real mitigating with this problem, you decide to ban "derogatory words". Ban social shit embedding, if you really care. If you don't do that, then it is high probability you are after completely different goals.
Amen
Here's the secret trick that tyrannical governments don't want you to know: they don't have enough manpower to arrest even a quarter of the population.
Their power comes from fear, from people voluntarily censoring themselves and others in order to avoid reprisals, as though it makes one whit of difference.
How the fuck did the only people on the whole board who don't understand this end up as mods?
here's a thought. there may come a day, if communists are put in power of our glorious nation like they almost were, you'd be on their list. just saying maybe think about the future
You're goddamned right I'll be on the list and not hiding in my fucking basement ratting on my neighbours. People like you are the exact reason people like that get away with dragging people out of their homes for "hate speech".
"There go the Johnsons. Oh, well, I guess they shouldn't have openly resisted tyranny, hur dur"
wow you guys are really freaking out over this. start your own .win and have your fun
You say, as people who didn't start this community take it over...
How about you go back to Reddit? Or just get off the internet entirely? Then the mean old government won't have any reason t come after you, lol.
I have a very healthy fear of government, thank you very much.
Listen, I'm trying to have the community not flag on the global surveillance system's screens using words that aren't necessary.
Does everyone forget the microscope pointed at us?!?
Edit and I won't remove.
It's a conspiracy forum; it's flagged.
I respect that Russians' ears may not be attuned to the difference decided in America between negr, Negro, Niger, and other similar forms. Trust me on this, it's not the same as you describe in Russian. I can say "kafir" to my heart's content here but I can't in South Africa, that's legally actionable and worse in their eyes than any of the words discussed here. I had to learn the territory.
The issue is respect. It's possible to use a slur word respectfully, but this is rarely done here. Free thinking and respect are not opposed. If someone could make a case that there is broad respectful use of slurs going on, that might tip the evidence.
Enabling more outside sites would be nice but is an advanced programming issue and not expected of the mods, who are volunteers. People are free to make text posts with links in them, which might be more efficient overall than link posts; that can be done by common consent. Perhaps your tech expertise has some specific advice on this that would save anyone from trying to vibe-code it with AI help?
There is no territory in internet. There is no borders. And this is the way to completely destroy one of the basic thing used to manipulate consciousness by TPTB.
Respect is not something given by default. Respect should be deserved. And it is in no way connected with what you believed are "slurs".
When you demand respect for nothing, it does not provide real respect. It just destroy the whole concept of respect, and there become nothing and nobody to really respect.
All that "unacceptable slurs" idiocy comes from severe indoctrination and false premise that the whole world should follow a single design you think is "right". It is not. All "slurs" are fully deserved from the point of view of one who use them. Instead of trying to understand the reasons, you think it is better to ban them and swipe the whole layer of important thing under the rug.
If somebody here can't see behind the "slur" and unwind the whole background story and info you get with "slur", then such person have no place here. He is too dumb and fully bought by propaganda.
If you name me "orc", well, then, first, "For the Horde!" to you, and secondary - I get a big chunk of information about your cultural background. Same with "kafir", "snowflake" or "goyim". That's like a section that gives a megabytes of information squizeed in one word. This helps a lot to make a sensible conversation.
It wouldn't. Even links to outside sites leak at least your IP and browser fingerprint to the owner of that otside site. Imagine you want to find some information about users of some forum. All you need is to create an unique link on your site with whatever "interesting" thing you think will attract target audience, and put it on that forum. Since this link is unique, only people from that forum will visit it. And voila - you have a list of forum users IPs and fingerprints of their browsers. It is more than enough to find tons of information across social networks and other shit if you are friendly with that social networks owners or admins.
Embedding is much worse.
And this is exactly what attract most attention to this tiny and barely noticeable place. Somebody dig something unique, but tracked in Twitter, post it here as a post with embedded tweet and Twitter owners get a flow of user data,
The whole point of such small boards like c.win is to have a place to talk about anything without much attention. Since it is negligeable in user count (few dozens or something), it does not deserve resources to spend, like billion users social networks. But with embedding feature you simply attach this borad to all that social crap.
If you want a more or less safe way to share and discuss information you think important to share - then it's easy. Nothing prevent posters here to write (or copy) the essence of their link in text and provide a straight link for those who want to dig deeper. I really can't understand where an art of writing or even copypasting text go, so posting a fucking screenshot of text become mainstream, but I don't see any obstacles to ressurect this lost art.
Nothing needs to be altered in the engine of that silly reddit-like forum. Only thing is necessary is just willingness of community.
We implies a suggested pluralism tempting a free thinking singular being into a consensus controlled by others...derogatory words represent the tools used to establish such a consensus.
Notice the use of talmudic reasoning with the word "nigger" aka censoring it among white; advertising it for black, while luring both sides into a conflict of reason against one another...a circular (kikel; kike) conflict. Sounds like a conspiracy, right?
Btw...WorldStarHipHop aka THE "nigger" site on the web; owned by MediaLab AI Inc is run by a jew named Michael Heyward, just like the Hip Hop movement branding blacks as "Boyz n the Hood" + "Niggaz Wit Attitudes" + "Public Enemies" and a "Menace II Society" was jewish. Again..sounds like a conspiracy, right?
How could such conspiratorial malevolence be exposed if a free thinker is being moderated in speech?
what substance do slurs bring to the discussion? just curious
Slurs are suggested to one another...the substance of the word used as a slur has to be shaped first. The deception lies within the substance...not those deceiving each other with slurs aka with outside branding (idolatry).
As for discussion...few aren't discussing with many how to conspire against them. Few trick many to discuss conspiracy with one another, while ignoring few.
Discussing implies argument aka arguing minds...that's the deception.
so, no real disagreement on this?
Disagreement implies versus agreement aka turning against one another based on circular logic...that's what the term kike/kikel - "circle" was designed to distract from.
It was a jewish comedian named Leo Calvin Rosten who made up the Ellis Island story about using a circle (kikel) instead of a cross. That's the same jew who defined chutzpah as "that quality enshrined in a man who, having killed his mother and father, throws himself on the mercy of the court because he is an orphan".
Let the individual determine this for themselves is the point. Relinquishing the individual right to "mod" cons is just that... A con
I dunno I think maybe users would like to see this place flourish, and if every other word used is a slur, they will not want to stick around. we could be missing out on others' information. it's just a real bad look, I don't know why people don't understand this.
Respect if you confront me directly as an individual rather than rely on some "mod" con to supposedly do all the "dirty" work. Flourishing comes from freedom, the opposite of what you are promoting.
At minimum, used "slurs" bring great information about the cultural, political and other backgrounds of the person you talking to.
Also, if your opponent use "slurs", that means he will not talk to you with that disgusting fake smile and bosomed stone. If a man name ass an ass, then there could be a talk.
If you don't see that, than what are you doing at conspiracy forum? The whole point of many conspiracies is hiding shit behind some fake smile and good intentions. If conspiracy theorist do the same, then how he is different to conspirators?
the only thing that anyone wants to "hide" is k and n because it turns people away!! are you so selfish you wouldn't want more eyes-on? you're really something man
You just mentioned global surveillance system. Umm did Christine Maxwellhill contacted you and threatened to cut off your feet like she cut off her husband Al seckels feet because she thought he gonna leak info about googles secret data harvesting program