For the sake of order and understanding all previous posts regarding moderation will be listed below. It would be nice to have all ongoing discussion in this one central post that I'm speaking in right now. I will chime everyone that has expressed actual interest in actual discussion.
The goal is to have community consensus to the best ability regarding a new mod to be active, I have reached out in modmail and PM'd Clem so they are aware if they are in fact currently around.
I'm requesting to be mod and am open to questions in that regard. For those that don't know me, I've been here since this community was created via an invite from the original mod, Axolotl Peyotl and have been active the last 5 years. I would hope my reputation has shown it's own proof that I care for this community and members, if not, I am willing to provide assurances to any concerns.
Here are the posts that (I'm aware) currently relate to this topic:
https://communities.win/c/Meta/p/1ARK0LXq6i/cconspiracies-has-had-no-active-/c
https://communities.win/c/Conspiracies/p/1ARK0NmhL7/cconspiracies-has-had-no-active-/c
https://communities.win/c/Conspiracies/p/1ARK0No4Rw/does-the-community-want-more-act/c
https://communities.win/c/Conspiracies/p/1ARK0RBc7L/community-question-your-response/c
Here are the users that seemed interested in discussion:
If I've misread the replies and have left off any others that were interested in this discussion, please correct me.
If you’re throwing your hat in the ring, it’d be nice to know what you consider the viable scope of conversation on this board. There are already some “soft” scope restrictions that previous mods have enforced. Will you retain those? Examples include banning discussion of Q-LARP (because it’s a proven hoax and because it has its own board) and “joke” topics that poison the well.
It’s hard to get a feel for what the community does and does not support because the entire website is dying and the user base has been decimated.
The community has previously voted to see if some topics shouldn't be allowed and lost the popular vote, I don't have plans to make certain subjects off limits, though it's been expressed to monitor forum sliding and shilling, which I agree with.
I don't think it's dying.
It’s indisputable that this place has less than 1/10th the population it once had - that’s the dictionary definition of “decimated”
It’s practically in the grave at this point
Admin just said hes going to keep hiding this place from Trending, and hasnt done anything about the pictures of dragon cum and videos of non-whites blowing each others brains out, which currently appear on Trending with no issues
R.I.P.
Actually the dictionary definition is 10% loss, decimation was the practice to kill a soldier out of ten as punishment for insubordination. Funny it's meaning was completely inverted
Huh, interesting, I always thought it was killing 9/10 guys and leaving the last one alive to spread fear or something
Next you’ll be telling me that Dewy Decimal wasn’t the guy who invented the concept of the library
No, but Dewey did popularize the idea of adapting the Prussian education system to US schools so that they would produce obedient, unquestioning workers. Probably could do a whole thread on that.
Sounds like a conspiracy!
Good to see you around, it's been a crazy week here with me seeing how deep the rabbit hole goes (it's bottomless). Ad: I trust you'll check out my vote post in particular, as all the meta posts get buried here rapidly.
Yeah there wouldn't be much of an army left that way. It's funny, everyone think of it like that until they check etymology
Things have slowed down but I have hope for rejuvenation and I also agree that it's uncool that that post got to the main page while our discussions aren't available for view.
Just to say it here and copy it elsewhere, it occurs to me that if we removed the political tag and then flagged the very few political posts with a different exclusion like NSFW then we'd get the best of all: appearance in Trending, plus minimal admin involvement, plus minimal specification on what "political" is (until people argue). Strange workaround but people might like those benefits.
Enough with this “politics” shit - these are all on the front page of trending:
https://communities.win/c/KotakuInAction2/p/1ARK0TTVLs/if-the-dems-are-going-all-in-on-/c
https://communities.win/c/FunnyMemeSpot/p/1ARK0SL6dN/the-whole-point-/c
https://communities.win/c/MGTOW/p/1ARK0TSxFr/correct/c
https://communities.win/c/KotakuInAction2/p/1ARK0TUbY4/republicans-refusing-to-do-anyth/c
https://communities.win/c/KotakuInAction2/p/1ARK0TUbY0/turns-out-refusing-to-even-comme/c
https://communities.win/c/KotakuInAction2/p/1ARK0TUbY5/this-is-probably-the-only-set-of/c
https://communities.win/c/Technology/p/1ARK0SMUHE/the-python-foundation-is-in-fina/c
https://communities.win/c/Funny/p/1ARK0TUKdL/this-af/c
Obviously “no politics in trending” is a line of horseshit.
So, it seems likely the admins won't care if we remove the political flag from the board and don't bother flagging individual posts.
Still waiting on clarification, but assuming that when u/Paleo said:
All he meant was “once it has an active moderator”, then I think that would be the best solution by far
Good idea. Yet "we" don't have the power to remove the flag, nor to approve Conspiracies for Trending, which requires that admin be motivated in favor of this idea. And if we didn't flag individual posts, admin has repeated declared motivation against the idea.
To recapitulate, we could easily declare consensus that we need 2 or 3 mods, that we would like admin's consent to mod them after we deliberate about who they are, that the mods will remove the Politics general flag so admin can add us to Trending, and that the mods will mark the few political posts as "NSFW" with a sidebar explanation that this means "Not Safe For World" which we have redefined as meaning they are political. Anything short of that doesn't seem to meet the goal you suggest (of the admins letting us be).
^ u/Paleo, here is some good research about the regular appearance of Politics in Trending. In particular, I understand that Funny should have no reason to be in Trending, so it's not just a one-off. Looking forward to your thoughts in good time. It appears then that my proposal about how to get Conspiracies in Trending might be right on point:
Add: Let's repurpose the acronym too. "Not Safe For World"?
u/Thisisnotanexit
Research lol? Cmon man, I opened the page we’ve been talking about for 2 days and LOOKED - this isn’t rocket surgery, despite how you and the admins might want the situation portrayed, for whatever inscrutable reasons.
I can agree to 'not safe for the world', this planet is crazy.
Thank you for thinking this out, I've been wondering myself how to go about it. At first think through it seems that might work, and mod duties would have to stay on top of flairs and I'm sure a modicum of appropriate speech would be expected/moderated.
The site in general has been dying since January 6th and the failed attempt to stop the steal. Of course, it doesn't help that the admins tried to take a group of people who were purged from reddit for being too far to the right and tried to mold them into an apolitical, neutral community.
Mhmm
That, and the inane decision to segregate TD & GA users (or rather, to keep them segregated after the switch from domain.win to grouping everyone else together on communities.win) from the rest of the forums
Lmao, thinking now it’s almost emblematic of “the right” in general - instead of actually joining together in an effort to build something great, this place is just a shitty knock off of reddit full of groups of heavily-silo’d “life rafts” that hate eachother and continue drifting ever further apart
No, just everyone hates you.
Only communities that support CuckPro are alts of it, with the same users. Most people who wanted you gone have left.
Speak for yourself, I get along with most people i interact with here, whereas you get downvoted even when you’re talking to yourself
You chased everyone sane away.
Decimated means it lost 1/10th. If you're saying it's lost 90%? That's quite a bit more than the word decimated intends to convey.
I think you're right though.
Also there's been people in this community for way longer than the ones u posted up as potential mods..
I posted people in the discussion, the request is for me to mod, sorry if that was unclear.
Thanks for clarifying.
I didn't get a notification even though you mentioned me in this post. I think you'd need to mention everyone in a comment instead.
I'm in favor of moderation of this community, obviously avoiding censorship of particular views and instead just enforcing the existing rules and keeping things somewhat civil and on topic (both posts and comments), removing trolls. Good posts can also be stickied if it's not done excessively.
I support u/Thisisnotanexit's application to be a moderator as well (if that's worth anything).
Hm that's weird the notification didn't go through, I'm not sure where I went wrong yet, but I'm glad you got here anyway and let me know.
Your support has much worth, thank you. I agree with your input.
I wasn't notified either, looks like the ping function only works on comments.
iirc a few years ago admins changed pings to only have the first 3 actually go through, I think it had something to do with people who were mass tagging everyone who was posting on ConPro
2nd attempt
Here are the users that seemed interested in discussion:
u/SwampRangers
u/Neo1
u/Graphenium
u/BeefyBelisarius
u/guywholikesDjtof2024
u/Zyxl
If I've misread the replies and have left off any others that were interested in this discussion, please correct me.
(Sorry the first attempt didn't go through, I didn't realize the pings wouldn't go through from the message body, thanks to the frens that let me know)
I hate moderation but lately a troll or two have shown up posting pedo garbage comments that should go to 👉🗑
That account is suspended and if you see its like return just ping Paleo immediately.
Agreed.
OP has done well modding c/gaming after it went unmoderated for months and was being overrun by spammers. I support bringing him in to do the same here.
Under the assumption of “no new rules”, and just to act as an honorable janny for indisputable filth/spam, I second
You got it dude 👍
Thanks, I appreciate the vote of confidence.
No pedo Kaarous allies.
Perfect post!
I imagined it somewhat like this, but you did it way better!
I am definitely interested in this discussion and would vote with two hands on new moderators coming and fixing this place!
I am also fine with having more mods than we actually need. Perhaps some won't be available all the time, people need to sleep and get to work... Perhaps a new person would be unexperienced in being a mod, but can present good motivation so he can be active and learning... Perhaps some of the new mods won't be correct in their judgement and the won't learn... Who knows?
But for a boat without a captain - no wind is favorable... So I prefer a lot mediocre mods, than no mods at all. Just FYI, some of the names in here I know from conversations and I can confirm they are the good guys, the real good guys that want to make this place better. I won't say who they are, so you can make your own judgement first, but if voting comes - I will.
Just checked again and we're not on trending!
What DA fuck!
Is UP...
With that!
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I didn't raise that topic but someone from the list provided by OP's post did! It's an actual cencerning matter! Someone is silencing us, or in other words - shadowbanning... This is what a mod should primarily focus on, imo.
We are losing new people from joining because we're shadowbanned.
The issue of this forum on the main page is being examined with interested parties (yourself now included in case you haven't seen that dialogue) and admin. Concrete updates will have it's own thread for visibility.
,,,
You can post in c/Conspiracy, it has zero tolerance moderation.
I dabble and could do with more participation there, thanks for the invite. This place has always been cozyest for me.
Well, the mods here are from Reddit. They banned me and u/TallestSkil as soon as we posted something controversial here. We are from Voat and believe in free speech.
At some point there are limits to what we want to say vs what we ought to say.
Great! You moderate some essential communities very well and you do have the experience. As a quick answer, I'm confident we can include more users as "interested in discussion" based on the prior threads. I was thinking I or someone ought to do a bit of analysis on all responses to the subject so far, but they do need a bit of time to crystallize. It's possible to redirect people here as a megathread, if the cats can be herded. So I'll be back here.
If you want homework, you might look at the questions u/Neo1 posed me about shills. For instance, I'd frame, what constitutes "excessive, unnecessary and/or bullying 'meta' posts"? That would seem to be our best rule against forum sliding on the meta level but it doesn't handle topical sliding by the gradual change in the character of contributions toward some theories and not other theories. There's no forum rule that tells where our freethinking imaginations are intended to go, which makes us an easy target for sliders. We could (continue to) build consensus about where we're going (namely just "a fairer and more transparent world") as a preparatory antidote for this risk.
Consensus binds free thinking, hence making transparency (perception) opaque (suggestion). Also...what's fairer than being given free will of choice?
Is arguing necessary? If not...is it excessive to argue against one another? If it is, then what for?
If one argues to prove or refute a proposition to another, then doesn't one ignore that nature proposes being, which neither requires proof, nor refutation?
Free thinking, transparency, fairness, nature.
Argue aka "make white (argent)", enlighten.
I welcome more parties to the discussion.
While I respect the need to stop shills and sliding I'm cautious to avoid an overhaul type situation. I'm happy to adhere to the tenets that have been established by previous moderation.
That's a good post - https://conspiracies.win/p/17tegZSGDy/friendly-reminder-on-how-to-spot/c/ (Not mine, I just share the already compiled work of someone else)
Good list of the actions that shills take. Mods must take note of these when deciding who to remove/mute/deal with...
Did you get a notification to this thread from my chime of your username in the body of the post? Zxyl said the chime didn't go through to them so I'm trying to see where I went wrong.
Literally everyone on that list is a CuckPro power user or an alt of one.
Is everyone on this site just conspiring to hand them power? Same is happening on "non-political" c/memes.
That's not true. I think you might be misunderstanding things.
That’s TheImpossible1, a long-standing and known paid shill. Just ignore it. It’s on its third or fourth sockpuppet account (against the rules).
I'm aware but thanks for looking out in case I wasn't.
It's not paid. He believes everyone who disagrees is paid. LACK of Christianity, LACK of Godliness and belief in Jesus is the reason he does and believes what he does and believs
Then let us continue to be a light shining in tne darkness for him.
I noticed I was vague.
Tallest is the guy who thinks disagreers are paid.
Everything after "LACK of Christianity...." is referring to Impossible1/dresdenbomber.
I was able to follow your line of thinking but appreciate the clarity.
That retard is TallestSkill, an infamous schizo who should have been banned long ago for making threats.
He got done over in a divorce by his wife's Jewish lawyer, and that's why he's so mad.
Graph, Belisarious and guywholikesdjt are all openly stormfaggots who I've frequently clashed with.
Neo1 recommended Graph for mod, so he's almost certainly a stormfaggot's alt.
SwampRangers is a weird one, but his call for moderation is what started the entire stormfaggot retard cult pushing for power. Could be a coincidence, probably isn't.
Never heard of Zyxl.
While I appreciate your effort, it's difficult for me to trust your judgement, same goes for the other comment on another user. I'm familiar and have differing opinions.
FWIW, both Graphenium and Swamp were banned from ConPro years ago. As usual, impossible1 is just making stuff up as he goes and hoping something sticks.
To clarify, I might have had a 3 day-er or something at the height of the fagsurgency, but it was a personal decision to stop browsing and posting there. Just too unrelentingly negative imo.
Spot on about imp
For me, 1.5 years, and I documented the event for people who bring it up.
So he is a CuckPro poster. Shocker.
Birds of a pedo feather.
Your entire post history proves you're a subhuman stormfaggot.
What
What's your opinion of Jews?
Thanks for the faint praise, you're more nuanced than I thought.
[Ad:] Are you voting against moderation and in favor of relative anarchy?
I vote for an anti-stormfaggot moderation team. There should be one place that has a zero tolerance policy towards them. Why not this one?
You already have c/feminism and the handful of dead boards your first account created.
And you already have Christian pedo HQ with the most apt acronym.