As ridiculous as FE seems, prima facie, until it's proven false, I keep my mind open to plausible explanations for why:
A) the moon landings were all fake and we've never "been back"
B) there are no actual photos of the entire earth from space (unless you believe the sizes of the continents are changing by 30-60% every decade or so)
C) the only people on earth that we give billions of dollars to, to go to space, are faking any, let alone much (or all) of the footage, using green screens, parabolic "zero gravity" flights, actual hair spray to make their hair stand up, underwater studios (unless you believe in air bubbles in space)
You might say "but these items have better explanations than FE". Well let's hear those theories also. Let's not shoot down those who are proposing an outlandish, yet mostly comprehensive, theory, one that explains these anomalies as well as a plethora of others, like how did they use radio frequencies that don't even purportedly bounce off the ionosphere to communicate hundreds of miles during WWII, how can the horizon be seen above an item whose entirety should be hidden behind it, why is Antarctica, aside from a tiny portion, entirely off limits to most civilians, how was Felix Baumgartner able to slowly float up to nearly 30 miles without drifting a thousand or more miles because of the earth's rotation, etc.
Suggestions that these things are not even worthy of discussion, on a forum dedicated to conspiracy theories, have to be disingenuous.
Original Research
Let's not also forget that FE researchers are literally the only conspiracy theorists doing original research. These people will buy lasers that cost thousands of dollars, cameras, etc., and go to some large body of water (large lakes, bays, etc.) where they can test their hypothesis with an actual experiment. Everything else I see on here is pure speculation, or videos of interviews involving various professionals with dubious backstories (Malone, etc.).
Does it Matter
Pertaining the "would it even matter" argument, you honestly don't need a lukewarm IQ to imagine how much it would matter, if FE was real.
Principles
Most of us are here because we couldn't speak freely elsewhere, because "hate has no place on our platform" type communist bullshit. Now we're going to make the same kind of rules, especially banning arbitrary content that is desired by a clear majority, on a platform with already-existing mechanisms for getting rid of low quality postd (downvoting, hiding)? If FE posts are banned, this place is no better than TGA, and don't even pretend to be pro constitution when you can't even stand up for free speech about a conspiracy theory in a conspiracy theory forum.
I'm out of here, for good, if FE is banned. Aside from spam, illegal, doxxing, banning has no place on our platform.
I agree. Huzzah! FE really gets us thinking about what we believe and WHY we believe it. It doesn’t matter if you think it’s true or you follow mainline cosmology, the ability to entertain an idea keeps us thinking and reasoning together.
Why can’t we question mainstream science? Why would we want to accept anything they say blindly with all we’ve seen just from the C19 scam?
>user has never posted to c/conspiracies before
Uh huh... lot of that going around these days....
Hello, I hang out at great awakening but decided to look for some other .win communities. Yes I lurked then today I posted for the first time. Sorry if newbies aren’t welcome here. I participate at great awakening without problems daily. Nice to meet you all too.
Just an odd topic to jump in on for your first contribution here. Especially now.
Seeing as how you've offered up the fact that you're also a qtard, it makes it even more suspicious.
Get over it I have a worthless degree in a subject that makes me interested in many earth topics.
You’d think if that were the case you would have made atleast one post in the last two years on one of these subjects
I don’t expect to ever post here again so no problem for any of you or your mods. Fare the well.
>account shows up out of nowhere
>shills flat earth
>never heard from again
Sounds about right
Lurkers. Readers.
Old man is a shill.
Imagine being that dedicated to preserving the FE psyop.
Go fuck yourself fedboi
It's you! Mod alt!
Old man is a fed. Lol
No more wasting time with you dipshit.
Yeah I don't agree with everything you say, but you're squarely at the bottom of my list of shills here. You and Gyna.
Thx. Nothing like setting a few ass hairs on fire, right? Lol
Their opinion matters less than people actively trying to build the site and the community
Not than, TO the people running this website. The person speaking has an opinion worth reading, whether they post or not.
Off the rails. This place was great a week ago. Now we get rules. Great, more rules. When will your rules stop?
They just dont see it.
One of my favourite quotes: "You cant get a little bit pregnant, son."
Rules, by definition, will never provide freedom.
Maybe the goal isn’t some nebulous and undefinable “freedom” but instead fostering a place where generative, productive discussions can occur
/> user has never made a post on c/conspiracies
Fuck I need to start checking that before I respond.
How do you plan on fostering something that you are going to censor?
Wouldnt you guys feel better on reddit?
fucking children running this site. if anyone are feds/shills its the mods
yeah you guys seem threatened by the fact that some of us come to the site but don't post a lot. no worries I will start calling you guys on your bullshit from now on
You and OP make a good case for reasoned discussion. I've never seen that happen here on this topic. All I've ever seen is monkeys flinging poo.
Maybe mods don't want to be kindergarten teachers.
Can you blame them, look at the other responses? I had to explain why I have never posted before and splain myself. It must be a trigger in this forum and that’s fine there are soooo many forums to read.
Yup. You may be aware that the handshake icon was first introduced so people would give a friendly welcome to newcomers. This isn't the only .win where it has the opposite effect ...
Here's the irony, and the best argument for banning FE: Flat Earthers are incapable of questioning.
If you notice, they never ask. It's always statements of fact: "globe earth is impossible because x", "no one has pictures from space", "the moon landing is fake" etc.
On top of this, they will never admit evidence against their viewpoint. Anytime you refute a point, the response is either "you don't understand FE" or "you worship the government".
Usually I don't like to generalize an entire group, but in this case it's appropriate because, if it weren't, they wouldn't beleive FE. FE can be disproven in about a million different ways, and has been. There's obviously stuff like flight plans, observed angles of the sun at different places, pictures from high altitudes (as low as tops of buildings) but even if all that is controlled by the globe earth conspirators, it's refuted by basic physics and even geometry.
They're here solely to push an agenda, for whatever reason. They add nothing to the debate except links to videos that use predictable tricks and logical phallacies to persuade, rather than convince.
No one here is accepting anything said by government blindly, that's a red herring. What's happening is that FEers are denying anything said by government blindly, then trying to justify it after the fact.
This isn't the act of rebellion they think it is, all this does is muddies the waters.
Whereas:
The term Conspiracy Theory was allegedly coined by the CIA in order to denigrate those who question the official narrative.
Therefore:
The idea of Flat Earth, I allege, is used also in order to denigrate those who associate with conspiracy theories, to dilute the quality of information here, to waste the time of those who question the official narrative.
in my opinion this is the best arguments for banning flat earth for sure. I don't believe it's origins are sincere in the least. nevertheless I have had the misfortune of meeting real people in the wild who actually believe it.
whether an idea is true or not, IMO, is less import than the ability to consider if the idea is true or not.
The first is believing based on being told. The second is self discovery.
A computer is accurate, but not wise.
That said, I agree that the more silly/obtuse conspiracy theory's are used to denigrate those more "serious" one, but the solution to that isn't to censor them, but to expose all theory to the rigorous examination.
Every single FE “proof” you could ever point to was debunked over a decade ago. Elsewhere.
There is no conspiracy.
The Great Pyramid is a scale model of the Northern Hemisphere
You are missing the point I think, respectfully.
Allow me to explain. When teaching kids how to "debate", the first thing you do is give them a topic that they feel passionately about one way or another. You let them argue the point they believe in, and after that is done you make they argue the counter point.
You do that, not to make them think something that they don't(as is the suggested worry here), but to make them think in a manner unusual to them, to entertain ideas not previously entertained, and to make them argue from a position they dont believe in - so they are free from their own personal biases.
THAT, imo, is the important part. Whether FE is true or not is not as important, as people exploring and confronting their own bias. Whether it is FE, or the JFK thing, or 911, or 911, or 711, or Aliens, or Reptilian overlords, or whatever..
Anyway, just my 2 cents.
Reptilian overlords operating 711 and poisoning us by slushy!
All that can be expressed, and in a far more intelligent, cohesive, and non-schitzophrenic manner by discussing, for example, Gödel’s proof of the incompleteness of any symbolic logic system.
Or by crafting a well made post on philosophy and world view, perhaps with a focus on alethiology and the pursuit of truth.
It doesnt require fabricating a metric fuckton of fake “proofs” and misinterpreted “evidence”, which is a fundamental prerequisite of FE, or “birds aren’t real” or any of the other goto forum slides out there.
Post iq, npc retard.
Very good. c/FlatEarthResearch exists, and is run by a guy who's serious, knowledgeable, and passionate about the topic. Doesn't it make sense to have those discussions there?
kek. one jew praises the other jew
I have no idea if he's Jewish. You obviously don't care and label anyone who disagrees with you a Jew, no different from antifa labelling anyone who disagrees with them a nazi.
That you aren't tired of your own stupidity is the marvel here.
Post iq, npc retard.
Post iq, npc retard.
I want to know who is behind the psyop. Why can't we question that?
Who said you can't?
I supported keeping them, but FE is objectively incorrect.
you're too dumb to talk about this topic
That seems like it would be a more useful waste of time rather than people just arguing about FE. If you are convinced it is just propaganda used to distract and discredit, as I lean, have people found where the newest batch of it actually reignited? I have seen that it was a big thing in the late 1800's(i think) as well as people were similarly rejecting everything that came from institutions.
I'd be interested in reading about that! I know free masonry was being corrupted at that time, and preachers were warning about those evils. Other than that I don't know much about the era.
jews made up the globe and shilled it in all of the entertainment.
jews and other anti white racists. They want to dumb down humanity and the best way to do that is the attack the white race. All the globetards are working for the jews for free, to sabotage the white race and humanity
"antivaxxers are incapable of questioning"
It's the same logic. banning the discussion of a conspiracy as a whole is overzealous and undermines the very foundation of this forum. What we should be doing is endeavoring to ban all bad faith discussion, which is a lot more difficult for sure.
Any ideas/suggestions?
Lots of “no”s - very few “here’s what could work instead”
it's definitely a tough one, but banning whole conversations is not the right answer.
I suppose one step would be to make the posting of ad-hominem a bannable offense. For example:
Person's A and B would be fine, as they are engaging in legitimate discussion. person C brings nothing of value to the discussion and only serves to stir emotions. person C, in my opinion should receive a warning or a ban.
I think this has been what mods have tried to do all along. I've seen this topic turn uncivil more than any other. I suspect mods are tired of changing diapers, but would like to see what they have to say about this.
yeah, just ban all globetards for being rude retards.
Ehhhh - we all left r*ddit for, among other things, their carebear censorship policies (but I don’t think any of us left because of how Flat Earth was treated there) so I kind of feel we need some leniency on stuff like ending your sentence with “what are you, retarded”. Maybe I’m wrong on that.
But what I can see making sense is the removal (on a gradient obviously) of “one issue posters” - they do fly in the face of the principle of genuine good faith discussion.
I think I’ve seen you on KiA, so i mean someone like imp coming here and only posting his crazy shit about {women} being behind everything wrong with the world. Same for the people who blame their stubbed toe on the bankers, same for the people who derail conversations by trying to shoehorn FE into every single comment they make.
So to combine our points - if someone’s only contribution was derision and derailment, I think they’d do well with some kind of (community? Meta posts? Private? idk) talking to, moving up if they keep things up
But I agree, the approach of “should we ban this topic” seems to have had so many “potential“ drawbacks attached that the core matter got glossed over for a discussion on freedom of speech. However like 800 comments in the vote thread and easily another 200 across other threads shows these are important issues for many/all of us
Reddit went to shit because it refused to gatekeep forum sliders and they wormed their way into positions of power, then took over.
If you don't want this place to become reddit, we need to protect the forums from bad faith actors.
Admin is adamant that there will be no reddit style power mods on .win. That takes priority over other concerns.
reddit pedos are the ones who say things like bad faith actors
that would work out perfectly. all globetards would be banned, as they can't have adult conversations.
A mirror is what you need
yeah, do the research you retard, so you stop believing jews when they tell you the Earth is a globe
I never advocated for banning FE, I'm just pointing out the argument.
And yeah, if "anti-vaxxers" are posting "Vaccines cause autism", instead of asking if they cause autism or posting information suggesting the link, and they won't consider the alternative?
Ban 'em.
I think another layer of nuance needs to be introduced: if somebody has reason for "vaccines cause autism" to be the only topic they want to discuss yet can keep their comments in discussions where it belongs, I don't think they should be banned even if they aren't supporting every comment with links.
OTOH if they're injecting that everywhere, it's just spam at that point.
That's what FE has been here, although I can't speak to recently.
The truth is not spam. The globe delusion is the spam.
This is the first good faith discussion I've seen here on the topic, and notice that FE itself isn't even being discussed.
You have 0 basis for your claim but I'll give you credit, you finally made a comment without using the word khazarian! Lol
Here’s another suspect argument.
Ban.
Ban these shills.
They are all outing themselves.
Shut up, if you aren’t a shill all you’re doing is undermining the point of actual subversion by accusing everyone who disagrees with you.
Fuck off.
You’re spending far too much time engaging with shills.
If you think this many people are gonna argue in favor of FE, you might be a moron.
Fuck you for defending these intellectually bankrupt stooges.
They don’t deserve engagement. They deserve ridicule. There’s no point in engaging with shills and useful idiots.
Anyone who engages with them in a genuine way only perpetuates their psyop.
That guy has a better track record as a contributor than you, yet you accuse him of being a shill. Ergo you’re either a fucking retard or a shill yourself. Neither of those lend themselves to productive contributions
As Mark Twain famously said… never argue with a fool. Onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.
I see no difference at this point.
That’s your stupid ass opinion.
You’re also defending FE’ers.
That makes you a retard.
post iq, npc retard
No, it doesn’t. It gets us thinking “these people, who are paid to post a proven government hoax on this website, are allowed to vote.” It gets us thinking that we need to find and kill them in real life. It gets us thinking about silencing ourselves because the guilt by association fallacy means we look retarded when standing next to flat earthers.
Why can’t you prove the earth is flat? Because it isn’t. You’re mentally ill. Burn in hell.
If anyone who has researched enough to find this excellent hidden forum and then virtue signal the most hypocritical thing to censor a CONSPIRACY THEORY!
Freakin name shaming them calling them stupid. really? You are just like all the rest. Making them feel like they can't voice their thoughts.
I am not a flat earth believer but people lack of self awareness amazes me everyday more.
FE isn't a conspiracy theory.
A conspiracy is a clandestine operation performed by a small group which is intentionally hidden from the larger population.
If FE is true, then not only is every government on earth complicit, governments going back 500 years are complicit. As well as those who developed and use the principals of light, orbital mechanics, navigation, astronomy and all the way down to basic triggonometry; all of which are in opposition to FE.
FE is a "conspiracy" in the same way as The Patriarchy is a conspiracy; everyone would have to be in on it to the point that you may as well call it a "troll".
But we do live in a gyno centric society. Because women choose who gets to mate. And thus exert procreative stress to bend the world. You could say its a huge conspiracy because almost the whole world adheres to it, but its much more complex then that. Same with FE
But women had no way to communicate with each other across the world prior to about 50 years ago, yet the conspiracy goes back far longer, supposedly.
Therefore it's not a conspiracy, it's emergent behaviour. That's very different.
Everyone doing something the same is not a conspiracy, that's just incorrect. A conspiracy has to have intent, by definition.
But it isn't governments claiming this.
It's the math, and objective observation.
I put forward a proof yesterday, in another thread, that showed the sun cannot go below 10° from the horizon from the furthest point of observation, as per the FE model where the sun spins over the equator (and much higher for points closer to the equator). I have personally observed the sun dropping below where it should be able to go, and anyone else could as well. The math was something I learned in grade 10; not complicated.
To say "the government is hiding the truth about FE" is to say that the government (all governments) have falsified basic math (in which case we wouldn't be able to use it for anything else) and/or created a fake sky that they control (in which case, why not just make it look like it should, according to FE?).
I'll also point out that we know what a global government conspiracy to hide the science looks like: Covid.
They could barely keep that under wraps for three years, many scientists came forward, and the whole thing is falling apart.
We're to believe that the government has the capability to hide the shape of the earth for 500 years but they can't hide the origin of a virus in the most controlled country in the world?
It's not a conspiracy.
It actually delegitimizes real conspiracies, like Covid, because if the "government" could hide FE, then the entire Covid operation must have been intentionally leaked because we know they could have hidden it.
Obama once mocked the flat Earth 4 times in the same speech, because of the momentum the truth had reached.
Not just hidden for 500 years, ancient Greece calculated the diameter of the earth millennia ago, and was surprisingly accurate.
Nah, jew pedos were the history keepers and the made up the dumbest shit about the greeks
That would mean Jews invented all the math of the ancients. You never stop to think.
to hide how old life is. to pretend we are billions of years old evolved beings. to pretend evolution is real, instead of divine creation. to hide the accomplishments of the white race. We did what we did in 20.000 years. Not 7 billions of years. To hide the crimes against the white race. Every time jews destroyed an advanced white civilization like atlantis or egypt.
To create useful idiots who don't use their own senses and only go on satanic pedo talking points. To have these retards waste the time of smart white people who could be helping further humanity instead. Basically, you idiots are being used to make everyone as stupid as you are. That's the whole point of this
this is what the conspiracy is about. but you don't care. because you are too stupid to talk about this topic
You’re a fucking moron.
Stop defending FE you fucking inbred idiot.
you're the inbred
Why you so incessant shilly bapa? Go to pf changs in your trugg cause I'll be doin some more FE research. You made it more of a drawl.
They’re not their thoughts. It’s paid shilling. No one is genuinely that stupid who is posting here.
What is malicious? Thinking something silly? Is thinking the moon is made of Blue cheese malicious? Would any of those freaking out of FE, freak the same over that? Or the Hollow Moon Base theory?
Right after 911 it was the same rhetoric when you suggested the government had some hand in it. All the same arguments and rationales. Its dumb, its stupid, we need to censor it... Why? Because it is dumb, it makes us look stupid, etc.. There were no planes, they were holograms, etc.
When "we" want to censor people - "we" become the bad guy.
Idiocy, both the conspiracy and mainstream variety, can only be fairly fought in the open, through logic, reason and rationality. When we censor people, we deprived all of us the benefit of seeing/using/observing logic, reason and rationality destroy a POV, and we are lesser because of that. IMO.
true. all people like tallestpedo are trolling and wasting the time of people who want to humanity to achieve things
They can see it.
You’re talking to shills that are supporting the psyop.
Stop engaging with shills.
Just ban it already. This is ridiculous.
If they aren’t shills they’re literal retards.
Globe Earth is the psyop. You can't live upside down and sideways, which is what globebelievers think
These type of comments should be banned, not bringing anything productive to the table
Correct, ban all flat earth comments.
you are that stupid and you shill for free against the truth
Photo of globe?
Ita not a disc. Thats their working theory until they can afford technology.
Lol
Dumbass
i was willing to look at FE with an open mind and, imho, I just don't see FE as a viable model. however, the vitriol that's directed at FE and it's supporters makes me wonder...
good post.
Thanks glow.
There's vitriol because they act like shills. Normal, genuine users don't have armies of alts laying around. That's the only reason I have an opinion. I don't care what shape the earth is
How could anyone be offended by someone subverting the Truth?
Shill confirmed.
>the vitriol that's directed at {homosexuals with aids} and {their} supporters makes me wonder...
Then why not ban those users for their behavior? Why not set some rules about posting behavior, so that one person doesn't own half the board? That's not censorship, regulating post velocity, using some technology to help reduce alternate accounts, etc.
I support this.
I have no problem debating FE, but that's not what these people are doing.
They're presenting bad faith arguments in order to demoralize and gaslight people with legitimate questions.
It's still a vague guideline so I would suggest a strike system, but that's only if mods want to spend that kind of time on this mess.
Well you suck at debating so theres a little problem.
I don't think your sentiment reflects mine. I'm suggesting that we throttle posting velocity and/or band users that are spamming and upvoting their own posts with alternate accounts. I don't think we can make an objective judgment on a subjective quality ("bad faith") of somebody's post. That's censorship. If I say that clowns are from another dimension, who is anybody else to ban me based on the assumption that I am making the claim in bad faith. That's what down votes are for. If somebody says clowns are from another dimension and tons of people are up voting the post, then there might be some merit to it. Yes, there are memes and sometimes things will be up voted simply for their sheer meme value, but I haven't really seen that is presenting a major problem with sliding. The biggest offender in that world seems to be triplicate posts by the same group of users on the same subject, which has the effect of pushing other topics completely off the page.
You're correct, we're not on the same page.
I don't see much problems with spamming, at least at current levels. The problem I see is that we are trying to have a forum where ideas (often radical ones) are being explored to determine hidden truth. That necessarily involves a certain amount of suspension of disbelief; of dropping one's guard.
FE proponents (perhaps exclusively) are not here for good faith discussion; they're taking advantage of the good faith to gaslight people into doubting the idea of objective evidence, their own senses, and possibly even the idea of Truth itself.
It doesn't matter that they aren't spamming more than they are; what they're doing is insidious and long term. If they can undermine our ability to evaluate facts by constantly tweaking their arguments to account for our last argument, then every discussion of any unprovable topic is reduced to a shouting match.
That's what they want: ideological infighting.
"If you don't believe what I say, or if you refute it, you're a shill/fed/bot".
It's already taking hold.
Maybe a better way to deal with it is a stickied thread for topics such as these. That way all the evidence can be archived and they can't just keep bringing up the same points to try to trick neophytes.
People could say that IS censorship.
If it's not applied equally, then I agree, but as long as it's applied to everybody, regardless of the topic, I don't think it's censorship to throttle somebody's post velocity. For example, if you were only allowed to make one post per hour, or if you were only allowed to make a certain number of posts based on your karma level, etc., meaning new users can't post as often, etc., and especially if posting removed some of your karma, meeting that there was a cost associated with posting, so that if you build up a bunch of karma, it wouldn't give you a license to post a bunch of spam all of the sudden.
That's an interesting idea! Further, a new(ish) account could be given a limitation on creating posts that's "free," after which it costs them fake internet points. (Which aren't so fake if you lose status to post, go back to being a handshake, etc)
I like this idea because it gives people choice and freedom :)
I have no idea if it's possible with the software this site runs on, or if mods can create that on one .win without changing everything across the whole platform. Theoretically, posts could be handled separately from comments, and there might be some rationale for that.
This could make modding it less tedious ...
Exactly, and also the concept of "stamina" can be useful; for example, as you gain more karma overtime, you could also build more stamina, and stamina could be temporarily depleted without actually removing any of your karma permanently, until you continue to post after you run out of stamina. So for example, let's say you have 10 stamina, and it costs 5 stamina to make a post and 1 stamina to make a comment, and at your current karma level you are building 10 stamina per hour; that would mean that you are able to make 1 post and 5 comments per hour without depleting any of your karma. There are some video games that use stamina like this, where if you keep going after you run out of stamina you start depleting your health.
Thanks for your reply, and pardon any typos in this, total voice to text.
Yes. Except the mods. Constant changing of diapers is not only tedious, but not always possible.
This is why I think moving the topic to c/FlatEarthResearch makes the most sense.
Yes thats what we need more authority like reddit. Thats working out so well.
Apply this reasoning to a world where there are provably faked videos of astronauts in the space station. So if it would be cheaper to go to space then to fake it, then why would they fake any of them? Especially knowing that it would cause people to doubt what they were doing.
Example: https://youtu.be/WBDaBYgdMq4
You can't discuss your "greatest FE conspiracy" without links to YouTube(!) videos as proofs, can you?
Am I the only one who find that hilarious and ridiculous?
Hey, I voted to let them post. But it concerns me a lot more that people like you don't think it has been proven false. If the earth was flat you would see the sun all the time. End of story. You can replicate that with a camera, a big circle on the floor and a light bulb. Try it in a dark basketball court. Case closed.
(And if you say the sun is a spotlight then you need to make it light a semicircle and get the correct sunrise headings for all positions in the circle. Again... impossible. )
Seems like you voted based on your own ideals rather than the mind-crushing reality that is FE. I recommend you pay attention to it from now on, OP is only a filthy casual FE'er. It gets so much worse.
FE seems to be 1% conspiracy, 2% shills and 97% religious cult.
99% shills 1% useful idiots
That's some MSM level of cringe right there.
Literal projection, paid shill.
I've posted many details and thought out arguments in our conversations. I may be right, I may be wrong, but don't insult my character.
You’re objective wrong. Earth is not flat.
I have never claimed nor endorsed the idea that the earth is flat.
The idea that the earth is flat, and this fact is being covered up, is a conspiracy theory by the most literal definition. Just because it it a conspiracy theory doesn't mean it's true.
Except it’s objectively false. There is no idea. It does not exist. The only “conspiracy” is “why are people paid by the government to spam flat earth on this website in the first place,” and to answer that DOES NOT REQUIRE FLAT EARTH SPAM TO BE ALLOWED HERE.
Literally the fucking definition of the term, so yes, the entire fucking point of having a board to discuss conspiracies is to determine if they are true, and when they are not, to discard them.
Fuck your character.
You’re a complete imbecile without even a shred of intellectual credibility.
If you’re not a shill then you’re a moron of the highest order.
It’s insulting to even share the same digital space with you.
You are a fucking riot today! The farther down the thread, the worse you get!
L O FN L
You’re a fucking clown.
Everything you do and say is inauthentic.
Another great Flerf proof!!
That’s because they ARE NOT REAL PEOPLE.
How fucking gullible can you be…
Bad character to not human.
L O FN L
You’re glowing you fed piece of shit
Why u scared? Fed it up your asd.
The idea that you could be a real person is actually scary.
I’d like to think the bar was set just a bit higher…
That's better! Not a word of fed or shill.
You are beginning to grow on me. Level up dumbass.
Yawn.
Pardon the rambling chaos of this comment, I wrote it with voice to text while walking:
I'm not suggesting that the world is flat. It doesn't make any sense that it would be, unless we were literally in some form of Truman Show style simulation. But, it definitely hasn't been proven to be a globe, either. The supposedly non-composited images from space do not corroborate each other, because the continents are sized incorrectly and differently from photo to photo, and the colors change drastically (i'm not talking about film differences over the years, I'm talking about like entirely different apparent biomes). Every bit of the math involved in proving the globe also supports flat earth, including the scientist back in the whatever hundreds who calculated the size of the globe Earth using shadows.
It's one of those topics were the only way to get somebody to hear you out is to say "just go do some research and then tell me what you think", because you'll be surprised. Again, I don't believe in FE. It hasn't been proven, either. The fact that we can't even confidently understand the geometry of where we live, without indoctrination (how else would you know the Earth is a globe if somebody didn't tell you in school? Would you feel the roundness? Would you actually see something dropping below the horizon with your own bare eyes? You might see something Fade into the horizon, but pull up a large telescope and you'll see it is still there, etc.) is grounds enough for me to be interested in learning more. If you don't want to, don't take the pill, just ignore it. But if you care enough to debate about it in a comment with me, I suspect you were interested enough somewhere deep down inside that you at least want to explore. Rather than starting with flat earth content, I recommend watching a compilation of NASA fakery. Flat earth is more like a vehicle for research, because even though most of these people are working from the confirmation bias of believing that the Earth is flat, what they are really doing is exploring. They are taking something that can't be simply taken for its face value and going in trying to prove or disprove it. For example, even attempts to make fun of flat earthers end up sending up Balloons to the upper atmosphere with wide angle cameras and using the camera distortion to show that the Earth is flat, which people than immediately and unequivocally debunk by showing that even the math of the globe earth doesn't support seeing the kind of curve that they are seeing with their lenses. If you go down that rabbit hole, you will be absolutely stunned at the amount of real information that is out there in the amount of propaganda there is trying to prove that the world is a globe. That alone is enough reason to be interested (why is there so much money and effort put into convincingg people of the shape of our world?).
It was proven to be a spheroid shape thousands of years before the space age. They are not trying to convince you of the shape of the world. With their doctored images NASA are trying to convince you that they can and have successfully sent people into space who could then take great photos of the earth on an analogue film camera. It is that massive whopper of a lie that they are trying to protect. That's it, that's what the composites are about, at least it is the most logical reason. The way they try and convince you the pictures are the real deal, is by making the composites look how the earth is supposed to look like - How we know it to be - but it's stitched together from satellite images that are taken much closer. The composites were made to look like they were taken from much further away.
I am sorry for my tone earlier, but in your OP you have said some outrageously stupid and incorrect things that degrade everyone that has ever looked into a non FE conspiracy and discovered something original and worthwhile relaying to others. There is really some shocking nonsense going on in your OP text.
I don't have any hostility toward you. I've seen your posts on here in the past and I know you're not a shill. You're just frustrated at FE posters.
However, according to your logic herein, it would be more reasonable to assume NASA and the entire space edifice is perpetuated simply to convincing us that they can put people in space and take photos from space than it would be to assume they are hiding something bigger.
What I am suggesting is that these lies from NASA and the space edifice, as a whole, are cause for concern enough to justify looking into any theory that could possibly explain these lies. One such theory is flat earth. The reason I think this is worth exploring is because none of us have the ability, realistically, to go up and check for ourselves. Most everybody that many of us will ever talk to in the span of our lives believe what they believe about the shape of the earth and about outer space, not because they've observed it up close themselves, or even with a telescope in most cases (the majority have only looked up at the sky from the ground), but instead because of what they were taught by the government (public school, NASA, mockingbird media, etc.).
None of this is evidence that the Earth is flat, and I never claimed that it is. But what it is evidence of is a deception so vast as to span generations and consume budgets aggregating to trillions over its lifetime. I think that the most likely version of our earth is a planet orbiting around a star, because it seems to make sense, based on what we see from the ground. However, there is a lot of evidence to suggest that I am wrong about this, including, but certainly not limited to, some of the things that I mentioned in the paragraph below my A B C list in the OP. Keeping obvious spammers off the platform (people copy paste spamming over and over all day and upvoting themselves from alt accounts, etc.) will allow for Real discussion well preventing people like you from being frustrated by a constant barrage of spam.
The missions would not consume those trillions. Only a percentage, enough to pull off faking them. NASA is a front. The reason the fakes work so well is because they can invest a lot of money into them, far more than any Hollywood production for each mission, and still make off with the extra billions. And those productions justify the next billions, and so on. You know NASA is also one of the main drivers of Climate Change narrative? These are the conspiracies NASA is about. Filtering money elsewhere (investigating where would be an excellent use of everyone's time), protecting the original Moon landings since their entire legacy is built on them, and legitimizing creation of carbon markets and C02 as a pollutant and such.
FE is a massive distraction. Literally a huge void of time wasting waiting for the curious to topple into and never emerge - and while you wade through the countless lies and misrepresentations FE'ers have come up over the years and are repeated by their followers ad nauseum, trying to see if they make sense, the production line is brain farting out even more.
I don't know what it's called, but this is the most corrosive fallacy of FE and beyond.
Yes, we abso-fucking-lutely can prove (insofar as anything outside of pure math can be proven) the shape of the earth without going into space. Because we can see our relationship with other objects in space, we can show that every observation of them we make alignes with the sphere shape model using well-understood geometry.
All these FE "free thinkers" love to tell others to "do your research" but not one of them has bothered to actually learn the math that they would need to prove either model. Honestly, I haven't either, but I know enough to prove that FE is obviously impossible because it really is that easy (grade 10 math). Really, any 3D shape but a spheroid is obviously out of the question, which is why they picked a 2D shape instead.
We can't see atoms either, and we never will, but we know they exist amd have certain properties because we can observe the results of those properties. FE is basically alchemy, in this metaphor; it can explain some things, but atoms explain those things, and many more. Shortcomings in atomic theory don't a) prove that it's wrong, merely incomplete, b) justify using an obviously incorrect replacement or c) indicate a conspiracy.
Bro you really need to stop engaging with these shills.
It’s ridiculously inauthentic.
People are NOT this stupid.
Stupid people do not defend their stupid viewpoints in this kind of an elaborate fashion.
This is a government psyop and you should really stop engaging with it lol.
Just ban it already.
Despite no outright ban, a harder line is going to be taken with exceptionally low quality submissions. There will also be less pussy footing and much more mockery. I have free speech too and I like to have a laugh.
The Chicago zoom in video. That seems to be the kicker for me. You can see birds as they zoom in, it's zooming flat. All the way to Chicago.
This isn't a fucking mirage. It sure looks like the world is flat.
Reminder, literally every shape has flat sides.
If that is the only evidence but all the other evidence like the locations of stars and planets, the time and heading of sunrises, the seasons and hours of light, ship navigation ect. are correct for globe earth.... then ask yourself why they think it's flat and not just a larger globe earth? Because they are shills and religious fanatics not truth seekers. That's why.
Ok, but there are also videos of the earth as viewed from space, and it's a globe.
So which video is correct and which is fake? It's hardly compelling.
There are no pictures of earth from space. Other than from NASA.
Right, you pick a source and say it's good, and all other sources are bad.
Not compelling.
Do you believe people can live upside down? Because that's what you believe if you think you are living on a globe.
The blue marble? Take that pic and compare it to the rest of the crap that NASA has given us.
"Drinkbleach"...you should change your name to this.
Thanks for admitting that pictures of the entire earth from space have been taken, as well as video, as well as a live stream from GEO that you can watch 24/7. You’re a paid shill and a federal agent here for no reason other than to poison the well. Fellate a shotgun.
I'm a paid shill. I'm not the one screaming drink bleach on a website all day.
YOU ARE NOT HUMAN
After further thought, there are pics from the chinese version of NASA. Those count?
Count as what, federal agent? You don’t give a shit about objective reality. You’ve already admitted that. Your own arbitrary whims define the world in accordance with the release of dopamine in your body. Nothing “counts.” There’s no objectivity. You’re just a penis floating in a void you can neither prove nor communicate to others. That’s the sun total of your existence, as per the foundational tenets of your belief system. It doesn’t matter to you what “counts,” because you’ll just arbitrarily alter countenance depending on how it makes you feel.
You’re not human. You don’t matter.
Holy fucking shit. Comic gold!
I dont give a shit about reality! You're right, society reality can kiss my ass! I dont know the shape of the earth! You dont either!! All we Know is What we have been told! Maybe we've been lied to!!! Doesn't hurt you much to talk about it!!!
I make my reality. Family is the rock, so my reality stays close. Reality for me is not pissing away my days on a website.
YOU ARE NOT HUMAN
"They're photoshopped because they have to be!!!!!"
Stop engaging with FE shills.
This is exactly why this needs to be banned.
TELL US WHAT TO THINK BIG DADDY
Mod alt in pathetic form. Give it a 2/10.
Thanks man.
As long as the platform doesn't allow people to vote spam (or whatever it's called when people farm votes for posts with alt accounts, etc.), then the site would be clear of the mostly bad content.
There's no point in having principles, if we break them out of pragmatism. When I think of words like "pragmatic" in the context of principles, the first thing that comes to mind is "common sense gun control".
I think the bigger threat, to this site's quality, is the constant spamming of sensational items, in particular, by 2-3 specific accounts; not the 3-4 FE posts I see every day.
Fuck FE and fuck you for sticking up for shills.
Post iq, npc retard.
Please look into when the space shuttle first flew. You shouldn't be conflating this with the lunar lander.
Excellent point.
The moon landing is something that actually could be a conspiracy. It would only take the production team and the cast, other than their handlers; even "mission control" could have been in the dark. It's entirely feasible and there was a clear motive for the Americans (CIA) to demonstrate such technological superiority.
FE is simply too big to be a conspiracy, in the exact same way as The Patriarchy.
I was banned yesterday from great awakening for simply defending a users fe post* the mod was very condescending, told me to find another site. This after 5 years of no problems* I don’t think it’s a coincidence that this effort to squash fe discussion is occurring across boards. I dunno
I do. c/FlatEarthResearch exists, with no attempt to squash it.
great awakening is controlled by the pedos already. The same pedos are now trying to control this sub
FE posts could be interesting only in one aspect - how pushing false narratives works.
We will perfectly see following:
And so on.
Exactly same things and behaviour we literally see every single day done by governments and MSM pushing their agendas on public.
I find a lot of different interesting and controversial conspiracy things on that forum, and no poster behave like FEr. Most are pretty open for discussion, able to accept counterarguments and think out their own explanations and develop or adjust their theory to explain things that does not fit.
Always remember, if FE pushers were running things, we would definitely be banned.
I have no doubts, it is just exactly same pattern. First they infiltrate, then began to flood place with their agenda evading any honest discussion, then use that as a proof of consensus, then demand power and finally ban everybody who don't support their narrative. Observed exactly that thing in every single narrative.
Funny, that those who think all that shit out, somehow can't think further than one step. They think out different narratives, but never bothered to think out different methods of pushing them, not even talking about new methods of dealing with consequences, side effects and so on. Even if goals of pushing different narratives is different, they use single scheme and hope that nobody will notice.
There is no need to confront FE, endlessly trying to prove something to those who inherently will never agree with you. Their behaviour is more that enough to uncover their real intentions.
I recommend watching the "flat earth facts" playlist from taboo conspiracy. I think you'll have a different opinion on the nature of the content, even if you think the science is nonsense.
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLimb_UpOKm97RBTHJ_ehaz2W-wNOnTkrl
Just watch # 10 and 15 about Felix Baumgartner and try to imagine how to explain that on a spinning earth model. Like I've said elsewhere and in here, I don't believe the Earth is flat. However, some of these things are difficult or impossible to explain with our prevailing mainstream model about how the world works. Trees on the ground cannot perfectly drag the entire atmosphere 30 miles up, especially when there is almost no atmosphere up there. And if it can, then why are we told that rockets lifting off veer immediately into the rotation of the earth because of the Coriolis effect, and we are also told this is how hurricanes are formed. So which is it? Does the rotation affect your ability to go straight up so much that you can watch a rocket begin to arc immediately after taking off or does it drag the atmosphere so much that you can go straight up nearly 2 space in a slow moving balloon and then come back down right where you started? I'm not asking you to believe in flatters either, but you have to be honest with yourself, there is no way to explain these mutually exclusive things.
Again? Name me a single statement from that video that didn't circulated in internet in 90s as an obvious science-like joke.
Why you can't produce anything interesting at all by yourself and continue to appeal to lying "experts" from stupid videos?
Meanwhile, why FE videos freely allowed on YouTube and, most importantly - with monetization? You can't monetize even absolutely innocent video with shooting baloon in slowmo, but "hidden" FE - no problem. Is that why you, FEr constantly insist on watching your senseless videos?
Do you have your own thoughts? Why you can't appeal to plain logic and math? Why do you always need some "video" in your posts?
Does enormous amount of videos with coronahoaxer "experts" talking about all their "safe and effective"/"masks and lockdowns works" garbage prove anything?
Just like coronahoaxers you can't have a conversation without appealing to "expert". And just like coronahoaxers you appeal to your own kind of "science", omitting the basic fact about science - it is replicateable. Appealing to "expert" that allegely did some experiment and got some results is not a science at all. Because it could become science only when replicated independently.
Again, instead of admitting that FErs behaviour is exactly same as behaviour of LGBTXYZ+ and woketards, you continue to prove that statement, continueing to push the links to retarded "videos" made by ignorant people who don't even bother to study something to make their "videos" a bit more sane. Seriously, that funny excersises on FE in 90s between those who didn't for a second thougth that FE is something more than a joke, was much more scientific.
You even can't understand, that whole thing is not about FE istelf, it is about behaviour of FErs.
Could you honestly discuss a simple question - "Why FErs always try to push their FE in every single place where people want to discuss something out of narrative? Why did not they explore their FE on their forums among those who interested in it?". Without links to other peoples "videos", without appeals to "experts", without all that crap "go and read about this famous person feeling, how dare you to not believe him!", just using logic - explain that behaviour, right here and right now.
Or you just can't?
So no argument, just ad hominem?
Felix Baumgartner did his balloon stunt in 2012, so I don't really see what that has to do with "stupid flat earthers in the 90s".
If you would please explain how somebody can lift off from the ground with a balloon (without propulsion for transport), float up to 25 miles above the surface, and then jump back to the surface more than an hour later and land the same area (or even within the same 500 miles), I would honestly love to hear that. I think that's the thing that keeps these people posting about flat earth, because nobody can explain any of this stuff; everybody just attacks flat earthers as "stupid idiots".
I have personally debunked the space vacuum argument that flat earthers make, as well as another esoteric argument that's more related to the moon landing, so I'm not religious about believing in some science or another; I'm trying to understand the truth, especially with regards to some of these more confounding points (like Felix's balloon trip).
Again and again the same. Did you notice, that I didn't discuss your FE at all? The only thing I want to discuss is suspicious behaviour of FErs.
And you just trying to switch the topic. I will not allow you to do that.
Would you please answer my simple question - "Why FErs flood every single hard to find and rare antiglobalist, antiNWO, antielite, antiBigPharma and so on forum, when they have all modern social media to freely discuss their beloved FE theory with their fellows?"
what happened to the pinned post to vote on whether "questioning the shape of the earth is allowed" deleted?
Results tallied and post was unpinned.
Do we know the vote results?
Official tally was 44 YEA, 61 NAY.
Thank you!
yeah, free speech won in a landslide
Without regard to content, yes.
A flat earther is most likely not a globalist.
My biggest thing with FE is "what is there to gain?"
FE would require a massive and constant coverup operation. We're talking every airline pilot, every weather balloon, every transcontinental ship captain, etc. The expense would be enormous.
And for what? the earth is apparently flat, why is this worth hiding from the masses? I can't think of anything to gain.
Only coverup it requires is someone treating to ban, or fire, you, if you do not go along with the official narrative. There are ship logs that are over 200 years old that confirms the Azimuthal equidistant map projection, if you can be bothered to go to a Library and dig up old logs of it. But stuff like this require people to actually do research, when they can just have someone ban anyone doing any wrong thinking instead.
There are pilots speaking up; try asking the pilot next time you go flying, if they seen any curvature or not. That requires you to do your own research though, can not have that, much easier to just let the people in control tell you what to think instead.
Flat earthers been sending up their own weather balloons, and guess what, results show that we live on a flat plane. But no, let's just call all flat earthers wild animals, that´ll show them.
What is there to gain? Well, generally people want to know where they come from. I think people would like to know that the Bible is true, that men moved by the holy Spirit has recorded what God told mankind, and how to avoid the judgement that is coming, and that has been building like a whirlwind, for our lack of faith in the word of God being true; and instead believing in silly things, like apes being our ancestors.
Yeah, like you actually went to a library instead of just watching some clickbait youtube video.
But azimuthal!
So airline pilots does not need to be in on a coverup that the earth is flat. The fact that no curvature can be seen inside the atmosphere should be common knowledge.
Here’s another FE fed larper…
You are saying I am pretending to be a fed?
Definitely.
This, right here, is the epitome of FE forum sliding: a bunch of unproven statements of fact that people would have to waste tons of time disproving, accusations of "not doing research" and "following the herd", the persecution complex, everything. The only thing you missed was a link to a video that we would need to "educate ourselves" enough to have a coherent conversation (priming).
You sound like a Critical Race Theorist.
If you aren't a fed, you're a dupe, but you're clearly reading from a script, bud.
Did you ever learn context clues? Guess not.
If you say so.
Nope. Wrong. You’re mentally defective.
Obligatory Post for researchers, and those wishing to disprove:
The Lost History Of The Flat Earth:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/QetnEQ2pszMr/
Except they do something different.
You don't need a thousand dollar laser to see curvature on large water surface. $100 or less 1W green laser will be more than enough.
Do you understand, that it is a pure lie about "we bought a thousand dollar laser and didn't see curvature"? It is just a plain lie. You will perfectly see curvature with less than $100 laser powerful enough to be seen from a dozen or two kilometers.
Curvature is a problem for any long enough radio and laser data link, when you have to account curvature to order additional mast pieces to put trancievers higher than it should be.
WWII snipers had to account for curvature.
No
Can you put your video on youtube.com
I'm not registered in that garbage bin. And never would be. And I prefer text over audio and especially video. The nature of human brain makes text the best way to share information. Because audio and especially video take a lot of resources just to extract useful information. Continous flow of expensive to decode data makes things worse, leaving no time to critically process incoming information. That is why video is always preferred by those who push narratives.
Things are even worse, if you dig deeper.
When you read text, you completely control your attention, information flow, you could reread anything that is not clear and do search and math just copying part of text you want to check.
Video is completely another thing, and you can't even imagine how it is dangerous for your mind.
When you look at turned off monitor, you could notice that it is covered by some dust and specked with flies. You completely control your attention and choose what to see and how. But when you turn monitor on and play video, fascinating thing happens. It is not you who is in control anymore. It is operator or video editor who manipulating your attention changing images and highliting things they want. Adding that most of resources of your brain busy with accepting incoming information, things become even worse. Really, video itself replaces your consciousness and finally you get just video watching itself. There is no any subject in that process anymore. So, there is nobody left who could notice that change and even nobody reasoned to do that.
That is why all malicious influencers, including flatearthers always prefer video and constantly push their target audience to their youtube shit.
Fuck your videos. Fuck your BirBrother Youtube. Fuck your methods and goals. You choose a wrong forum to attack.
r/whoosh
No, you’re not. Q-LARP spam is banned and has been for a long time. You’re still here. You don’t give a shit. You just want your government paid shilling to continue to poison the well.
Flat earth is spam. Q-LARP is spam.
you are working for the jews for free
C'mon, brah, we all know there's, like, 5 of you, max.
Sorry, you think that every government on earth is conspiring to hide the shape of the planet from the plebs, but you're going to hide behind the Constitution? Brah, do you "worship the government" or something? Or do you just selectively pick and choose which rules we should follow, like a subversive?
How about gaslighting? What about people who explicitly try to make users doubt their own senses, in total bad faith? "The sun totally fades out, it doesn't set below the horizon, don't trust your eyes, look for the green flash". Bullshit.
I'm not for banning discussing FE, because people need to understand how fucking stupid it is.
But I'm absolutely for banning users who intentionally post fake shit with the intent to subvert the Truth.
there are 11 million Brazilians who know the Earth is flat. You are dumber than 11 millions Brazilians.
mUh 6 bRaZiLiAn
It's the ultimate conspiracy theory, so banning it from here basically bans free thinking and critical thinking.
It's not a conspiracy, though.
For FE to be real, everyone would have to be in on it.
Not just the CIA, or the entire government, or all of the governments' allies, every level of every government, across the entire world, going back 500 years at least.
On top of that, multiple fields of science, engineering, and math, in their entirety would have to be knowingly propagating falsehoods for several hundred years without anything slipping.
Basic math like triggonometry and geometry is incompatible with FE, so mathematics itself would all have had to be fabricated because it's all derived from first principals.
This isn't a small cabal trying to trick the majority; it would have to be the majority of people on earth making up a false theory of everything (that's both internally self-consistant and explains all observable phenomenon except FE), just to troll you.
You’re a fed. Go fuck yourself dude.
Lol I'm a fed now? That's your best insult?
feds love calling us feds
Some people commenting on this post must not have read it entirely. They are doing the exact thing thing that brought them to pdw in the first place. Sus. And low IQ. Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. <- Ben Franklin
well said fren
Agree 100%
This is good, 👍. Well thought and reasoned. Much better than Clem's little shitshow yesterday
Fuck off you flat earth moron.
It is. In many ways that are all rejected by FEers. They even reject independent verification by people who have sent cameras up on home built rockets into near LEO: one particular example where the stock wide-angle lens was removed from the camera due to the distortion it does to the image, and replaced by a lens that greatly reduces distortion, and the footage clearly shows the curve developing towards the end of the footage. That is rejected by FEers as a lie without evidence to back up that statement. Your defense of their ideas is profoundly misplaced. Also:
A = not evidence indicating the earth is flat
B = not evidence indicating the earth is flat
C = not evidence indicating the earth is flat
By all means, please make posts about these topics, but if you call them part of the "proofs" of a flat earth you are flat out wrong. Lmao.
you believe people are living upside down and sideways
While spinning over 1000mph (depending on latitude), and orbiting at an average speed of 66,600 mph (interesting number).
I know it's hard to grasp dude. That's just your lot in life; being unable to grasp complexities.
You believe people are living upside down and sideways. That's the limit of your intellect.
Thanks for sharing the motivational speech you tell yourself in the mirror every morning. I am not a globetard, so I don't need it.
It sounded like they considered A, B, and C very good reasons to question our cosmology, rather than irrefutable proof. They even asked for your explanation of A,B,C if you think flat earth is BS. I honestly find it shocking that people wouldn't question spinning-orbiting-in an infinite vacuum-globe earth, for those reasons.
Just as a thought experiment, if you found out one day the earth is flat and domed, how would it make you feel? Obviously there would be foundational beliefs to address. -Relativity, big bang, evolution are all false -We have a devine creator (who is he?) -Most of everything I was taught was programming -there are satanicly evil people and entities that perpetuated this delusion.
What implications would you experience and would you find it disturbing? Just humor the question and take it seriously, any midwit could come up with a sarcastic and dishonest response.
Exactly.
Prove it.
Explain this.
Goddamn, you sophists are the epitome of narcissism. It’s not possible for you to ever be wrong in your perception, particularly about brand new things. Everything is always the same, everywhere you go. I bet you think flying a plane is just like driving a car. I bet you think all ball games are payed the same. What fucking hubris.
It literally wouldn’t matter at all. Do I need to post the fucking list of things that no one, anywhere, has done anything about? No one gives a shit about anything. If the Earth was a fucking toroid, no one would care and no one would do anything. You’re mentally defective and a paid shill.
It's more likely that the earth is toroidal than flat.
YOU SOUND GAY.
HOW GAY ARE YOU?
You should use these posts to identify all the accounts supporting the FE psyop.
This fake debate is annoying.
Just ban these morons already.
nobody is making you read these posts. just leave and go to your cave and pretend you fly to the moon with other retards like tallest pedo
Jesus christ. No. What the fuck are you even writing? Are you simple?
FE is not banned. The nays won. Congrats, you idiots.
You'd think axo would have learned how to avoid this sort of tactic...
Clemans is good people and wants what's best for this forum.
I disagree with the banning of any topic here. Spammers should be dealt with, but those engaging in honest discussion should never be shut down. It's not too hard to distinguish between those here in good faith and those who aren't.
True, but you've got to admit its got that familiar smell of the reddit brigade...
Seriously...wut?
Its a pity that moderator instruments on that forum are limited, as moderators abilities themselves.
Ideal solution for apropriate discussion would be to force the opponent to clearly answer for any legitimate ontopic question. Just hiding any messages (but keeping them available for all to check the nature of a person) that do not contain clear answer, may be with lowering some score with every message without answer or any sign of well-known dishonest conversation like changing topic and so on. Same with senseless and malformed questions like "Did you drop drinking wiskey in the morning". But it is too hard to implement that in reality, on that forum, in politics, in media, everywhere.
So, here we are.
However, I had a lot of very interesting useful and pleasant conversations here, with different people even on topics we was not agree on and a lot of original thoughts I never saw anywhere else. It will be sad if that forum will turn into the nest of parrots repeating their narratives without any original thoughts with rare normal people hiding between parrots screaming.
Ban it anyway. I refuse to believe that those were legitimate votes.
I did count at last 16 sock puppets. But the tally after that closely matches the numbers of upvotes on a typical 100% upvoted top post here so is probably pretty accurate. 61 Nays to 44 Yays. The majority of Nays were banging on about free speech and censorship, they are not interested in quality of content or even FE at all. They have likely never even engaged with FE folk. Some actually admit to blocking all FE, but still voted nay to keep it. What kind of logic is that? Jesus, all you can do is laugh I guess, lol.
That’s a complete disqualifier, in my book. Openly stating, “I don’t care about the topic of the vote” and then thinking your vote is going to be counted is nonsense. What’s the count excluding those people who openly stated that?
You are a disqualifier. If Clem listens to you he is an idiot.
Thanks for admitting that everything I said is objectively true.
This inbred group has a hold on our website.
>user has never posted a thread before
Cmon bruh
Doesn't matter. This site is for reading, I read. I've got as much at stake as anyone else.
Censorship is for faggots. Killing a conspiracy theory on a conspiracy forum is completely fucking clown world. Makes me sick that The People Who Run The Site shits this out like this.
Flat earthers? You’re damn right.
nah, you're the retard
If you don’t understand that FE is a stand in for honing critical thinking skills, then you don’t.
People today possess so little empirical knowledge. I find that its a vital tool in learning to discern what is ‘known’ from what YOU know, and why that matters.
I laugh whenever I see hostility toward the idea - People shouting at the internet, imploring others to accept ‘the facts’ at face value; Unless you’ve been to space, please just fuck off and shut up. You’re as bad as anyone on Reddit.
Let people learn and grow. Discussion is healthy. Suppressing thought is not.
And how critical thinking skills could be honed by continously spamming same stupid videos, pictures and links without a single attempt to think out a single new idea about their theory? I never saw anything new in FE since 90s when it was just a joke circling in early internet to laugh on.
"You are not a doctor, so fuck off and shut up". Heard it, saw it, didn't gave a fuck about it.
And I perfectly know, how it will end - "It's a lens on your camera!!!111", "You faked your spaceflight!!!1111", "You are Putin shill111!!!" and so on.
For a long time people of the Earth have an unlimited access to cameras on geostationary weather satellites that continuously transmit shots of whole Earth everybody could receive without any third party between and check everything, from rotation, season changes, and so on to cloud patterns over your home. And all that FE could tell about it - "NASA lies!!!111", even not suspecting that most satellites have nothing to do with NASA at all. None of them ever tried to recieve that signal and tried to think out a reasonable explanation in margins of their theory. Only insults, cries, lies and reposting of old shit.
Do you, flatearthers, underestand that it is not your theory expose you, but your behaviour? Your behaviour is exactly the same as behaviour of all that woke influencers, LGBTXYZ+ activists, BigPharma shills and so on.
Why you need your uninteresting and old theory everybody know about for a long time and already laughed on long ago, to be continously present in huge amounts in every place where people discuss something that is outside of some official narrative? Could you ever answer that question? Or you will just fall into butthurt and insults instead of answering simple question, as usual?
PS: yeah, I know, all that questions above are rethoric. FE guys will never directly and honestly answer them.
Im not a flat earth supporter. I believe in freedom of choice. Im introducing no arguments for or against the topic per se. only the freedom to choose freely that which I consume. All wounds regarding this topic must be considered self inflicted.
So, you are perfectly fine with such forum, where people try to track events and figure out what the real game is and how to mitigate future threats will be flooded with "FE", "birds are not real", "numerology", "there are 100500 genders" and so on.
Are you familiar with concept of hygiene? It is a bad idea to cook food in a place flooded with machine oil, clay and wooden chips. That does not mean that all that things are inherently bad, that does mean they are not fit in the place where you try to cook food. So what you propose to do with strangers that insist that they have a right to bring all that stuff to the kitchen, speaking about freedom of choice and so on?
Why FErs somehow insist on their "freedom of choice" but can't sustain others "freedom of choice"?
There are tons of places where FErs could freely discuss their topic without any risk, from Facebook to Metaverse including any popular social platform.
From the ather side, there are very limited amount of places where you could freely discuss topics not welcomed by governments, elites and other groups.
So, what is the need of FErs to forcefully evaluate their "freedom of choice" in all that places, Why regular social media is not enough for them and they exclusively choose forums like that to push their old and boring stuff?
You don't want to discuss that issue too?
I guess I'm confused by your language then.
Are you saying you don't have critical thinking skills, since you don't support FE, or are you saying that FE is a replacement for critical thinking.
Either makes sense, really...
Because it objectively isn’t.
Hence flat earth spam.
“Unless you’ve eaten shit yourself, you cannot say that shit tastes bad!”
This is how mentally defective you actually are. This is what you actually believe.
Go fuck yourself with a rake, communist. Your rhetoric will never be accepted here.
Flat earthers do not discuss. They spam paid talking points every single day.
Thanks for admitting you support banning flat earth, which is suppression of thought.
You need a good woman to set you straight!
Die immediately. The Earth is not flat. You don’t have an argument. You have nothing to add here, federal agent.
Have you read Leo Buscaglia?
Nope. He a flatty, too?
The only thing suppressed here is your IQ.
No you have to come up here and take my dick off of your face. Its not down there.
So you have a detachable penis?
Right…
So you have a penis on your face?
I’m guessing this is what you fantasize about.
Fucking weirdo.
I bet your a furry.
Good to know you have a detachable dick though. Good for you!
The website gods dont get this. Intelligent people like thinking outside the box. FE does this.
All I can say is how hilarious it is seeing people get apoplectic over my benign opinions on freedom of choice. It reveals another positive about the topic. Its a reality check. If this subject matter actually upsets you, you need to do some soul searching. The earth shape theory didn’t hurt you. Something is wrong inside, and you should address that before participating in civil society.
Go fuck yourself you fucking fed.
Upon your word mein leige. Awaiting my next imperative, comrade chancellor nigger.
Fed bot in action. How many feds still we are all gone?
The only reason I looked into FE to begin with is because "only braindead troglodytes would be foolish enough to believe it!!1"
All this hype is great publicity for the movement. We can always use more researchers.
Also if FE is banned, what next? Holocaust skeptics? COVID critics?
"I only believe things that other people think are stupid".
So you can't think critically, you're just terminally oppositional. FE in a nutshell.
Shut the fuck up, idiot.
Not. An. Argument.
https://communities.win/c/General/p/16ZqKqFFc0/for-the-retard-who-is-confused-b/c
globe Earth is impossible
Can't even tell if this is a troll or legitimate, lol
It’s a paid shill.
I wish I was kidding. People are too stupid to understand what believing in the globe comes down to. You believe people on the other side of the globe live upside down. lol. It's too dumb. I can't.
People on the equator are living sideways. That's what you believe if you think you are living on a globe.
Please, tell me more
There is not a lot to say. Either you're a flat Earth chad, or a globetard.
I understand your frustration but please stop making such comments, some other mod might be less understanding and ban you instantly for these kinds of remarks.
The piece of shit spams “Tallest Skil rapes children” on all my comments, as well as secretly to anyone else who replies to me.
If he isn’t banned for that alone, then I can definitely tell him to kill himself.
Particularly when he refuses to hold any discussion whatsoever and does nothing but spam (legal definition) ‘HURR FLAT EARTH REAL CUZ I SAY SO” as the sum total of his use of this site. If another mod wants to ban me for it, then that mod can personally be held responsible for the libel lawsuit brought against the website for allowing it to continue posting defamation. Let them know.
Thanks for admitting that you want to be banned again.