I think it's manipulation of the electromagnetic waves or radio frequencies to detonate electronics, like an emp but not and I think they have AI lighting the way.
Sifting for proof..
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They definitely just planted bombs.
No better than the terrorists they’re supposedly fighting
That sounds like a lot of effort. I think it's possible to detonate electronics remotely using frequency. I'm archiving an article that did this with IEDs in Columbia 2011, stay tuned.
Yeah, I upvoted on the off chance you find anything, I just find it incredibly unlikely that every device on earth with a battery is a potentially lethal bomb, but no one has ever seen anything like this ever before in decades of testing, building, and field use.
On the other hand, we know the mossad parasites fucking love bombing people.
I think they don't want you to think it's possible, but yes my theory is anything with a radio signal can be 'bombed' and I'm even wondering if having a battery could be hijacked but I no engineer and I'm not all that smart but I can't get rid of the thought and it's worth looking into on the off chance to bring the darkness to light.
Thanks for your encouragement!
Cheers
Consider this though (where my opinion is coming from):
An explosion is a rapid release of energy
These explosions are lethal to not just the person carrying the device but also those nearby (atleast 12 dead total, 2 were children, thousands of injuries reported)
Other than the device’s battery, there is no source of stored energy to exploit as the explosive, and a battery has nowhere near the energy required to lethally explode in the way we’ve seen here (we’ve seen many, many, battery fires, why have we never seen battery explosions?)
We have state department officials literally stating that israel planted explosives in the devices:
https://apnews.com/article/lebanon-israel-hezbollah-pager-explosion-e9493409a0648b846fdcadffdb02d71e
We’re dealing with terrorists, not alchemists (at the relatively low level of the mossad), which is what would need to be the case for them to transmute the solid matter of the device into the energy required for a lethal explosion
The purpose of this operation is literal terrorism plain and simple, not the unveiling of hyper-advanced tech imo. The israelis want people to think of them as gods, capable of getting you anywhere, anytime, with any means imaginable. But really they’re just scum setting off bombs among the civilian populations of the world.
Exactly. Meanwhile, it was kikes who "invent" what today is named "terrorism". That Irgun random mass murdering of natives of Palestine and all other stuff up to plane hijacks and bombs amid mass events. All that was invented and first perpetuated by kikes. Before their invention, terrorism was defined as "killing top persons of political opponent". Say, JFK asassination was pure terrorism. Today, the meaning is completely perverted. What they name "terrorism" is just killing random people for some benefits of ruling elites.
So your alternative is to sell electronivs with bombs inside? Seems like too mank moving parts, to me. I do appreciate your perspective and evil lurks in all places.
Perhaps I get hyper on the possibilities of technology I don't fully understand. I'm still gonna keep looking.
We know for a fact that intelligence agencies intercept shipments of devices to plant bugs, or back doors, or in this case explosives, ALL THE TIME
I love conspiracy theorizing as much as the next guy around here, but in this environment, we (especially, given the environment) can’t lose our critical reasoning skills.
It’s like with 9/11 : was it holograms and nukes or some well placed thermite placed by israeli “art students”…. Well, the evidence clearly leans one way over the other
Estimate the number of atoms in the battery and then the total number of Jules available. Now consider a way to make it release all the energy in a very short amount of time
That's very interesting
Lol, when everything is made in china, doesnt seem that hard to me.
The hardest part woulda been having someone inside hamas who made sure they bought the units.
There was a thread in r/conspiracy where someone pointed out that the company that made the pagers, just hired someone new about a year ago and they are making something like 300,000 a year. I cant find this thread of course now. but Some interesting tidbits here.
:Shrugs: Radio waves have so little energy going through them, if you amped up the energy enough to actually explode anything, it would prolly kill any living thing if the beam hits it for more than a few seconds lmao. I just dont see it.
Think of the energy at the atomic level in terms of Jules
Yeah I did. Doesn’t change the fact no one has observed anything approaching “transmuting matter to energy with radio waves”, but we have many documented cases of israelis planting bombs in locations where they would harm civilians.
Like another commenter says, how could they possibly target this technology onto individual devices? There are so many unjustified assumptions. Let’s say that israel somehow has the ability to “charge up” people’s devices with energy somehow and make them explode. And somehow this tech, presumably from satellites, is so advanced it can target individual devices somehow, despite its signal hitting every device in the area. Why wouldn’t they just shoot these energy beams into your brain?
This story requires more suspension of disbelief than star wars
Some even reported that disconnected batteries blew up.
Nothing is disconnected. All lithium ion batteries have electronics to prevent total discharge or they won't be able to recharge
Pretty sure it was a comment you made that got me thinking, cheers.
You nailed it. They don't want you to consider it's possible
Don't put it past any government with a somewhat advanced technology. Facial recognition cameras were in every international airport around the world since the 90's that I'm aware. Even 3rd world nations have had that for a long time (perhaps by virtue of a relationship with Russia or China). It's recently been made public.. so I don't mind talking about it. All that's needed is a picture of your parents, siblings or children and they can identify family line. It's part of the reason I've been shut out of Facebook, Google (can't log in to YouTube but I can watch non age restricted videos) and such that require a picture of yourself. It's due to a family member, not myself
My question is....Who uses pagers.....when everyone has a cell phone already?
Doesn't even seem possible. What could you even blow up in a pager or walkie walkie? A very tiny capacitor?
I'm not entirely sure. I'm wondering about the chemicals in the batteries and somehow directing frequencies tuned to make it blow up. Sounds wild, if true.
Battery malfunctions tend to be more firey and long lasting. They don't have a single "pop" but more of a long burn with some pops. At least true for Lithium ion fires I've seen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t165hgPjqG8
Good luck creating a perfectly syncronized single explosion with that.
So we need some force strong enough to turn the phone into shrapnel but I'm not convinced it has to be an implanted bomb. I'm wondering though, just like I wonder some weirdness about the towers kinda turning into dust. Nothing would suprise me anymore and I think there is usually some weirdness afoot and whatever everyone's talking about, I wanna look at other possibilities, crazy as they may seem. Truth is stranger than fiction, in my opinion.
Perhaps they found a way to override the circuitry in the battery so it releases a spike of energy enough to overheat the battery causing it to explode. Really wouldn't be that hard. Tallest skill has a point about not exposing that capability on low level fighters, but they may also have done it to intimidate
https://archive.fo/2024.09.19-153926/https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/sci-tech/electromagnetic-waves-used-to-detonate-landmines/29525168
the team discovered that despite the wide range of deadly makeshift bombs, they all had similar frequency ranges, explained Mora. “So we developed a system that concentrates on those, and thus loses less energy,” he added.
They successfully tested their system in Colombia last November and again in January 2011 using improvised mines provided by a team of professional bomb disposal experts. The devices were remotely set off at an average distance of 20 metres.
Also see AI and RF:
https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/371438/why-dont-radio-waves-ruin-electronics
Curious about this comment:
If the radio waves are strong enough, they can easily destroy electronics devices. But they need to be very, very strong and able to penetrate the case of the device to do so.
The electromagnetic whiplash (called electromagnetic pulse or EMP) of an atomic or nuclear explosion is sudden enough and strong enough to induce very large currents in metal objects tens to hundreds of km away from the blast. Those currents are sufficient to blow up high-voltage power line switchgear and fry the semiconductor junctions inside all sorts of solid-state electronic devices. To survive, military electronics as used in the battlefield and in aircraft must be carefully "hardened" against EMP with special shielding techniques.
In the case of light: If the box enclosing the electronics is colored plastic or metal, sunlight will not make it inside. Even if it could, the wavelength of the light is far, far shorter than the dimensions of the circuit board with the electronics on it, and so electric currents will not be induced in the board by having sunlight fall on it.
https://spectrum.ieee.org/how-ai-is-starting-to-influence-wireless-communications (2019)
https://scored.co/p/19952xBa7T
I posted this yesterday and it doesn't explain this incident per se but it does give an overview of their ambitions and current capabilities.
https://archive.fo/2024.09.19-160419/https://www.northropgrumman.com/what-we-do/whats-the-frequency-an-ai-algorithm-can-help-with-that
https://archive.fo/2024.09.19-161622/https://lieber.westpoint.edu/gospel-lavender-law-armed-conflict/
This whole "omg mossad can turn any electronic into an explosive" has got to be a psyop.
Those are landmines. They're designed to explode.
Normal electronics simply do not have the chemical or potential energy to explode no matter how much EM you blast them with. Look up lipo fire videos. They're not explosions.
Yup this thread just exposes how stupid our users are. They banned Samsung Galaxy note 7 from planes because they were exploding. That's a much bigger device than the crap they're claiming blew off fucking fingers and maimed a ton of people. The actual victims of the note 7 just got severely burned. This is why they don't post the best shills here. It's a wasteland of ignorance and schizophrenia.
I'm trying to find out what's going on. I don't know if it's a simple as planted bombs, but it could be.
I'm trying to look at articles of what they've already figured out to see if it could be twisted to this purpose of the OP.
I don't know anything but I'm extremely curious.
We know what's going on.
You're shoveling FUD. knock it off.
I'm not trying to do anything but find out if this is possible. I really didn't think it would be upsetting
Well you and pretty much every other national intelligence agency.
I was reading that technically this isnt against the geneva conventions somehow, I forget the exact reasoning. But it's prolly going to end up being added if world leaders have any kinda spine.
The amount of people defending this is insane.
There is no way these fools can gurantee that the pagers/radios dont end up in the hands of civilians, or go off not when in a public crowded place, which is what appeared to happen to alot of them.
Apparently they decimiated a bunch of medical staff and doctors, and people saying they must be hamas so they deserve it.
Pretty sure that they treat both sides regardless of affiliation. Not everyone who is on the hamas side is terrorist, children have no say in any of it. Im sure that some of the doctors had pagers or radios in case someone needed medical help.
This is the work of a devil in my opinion.
Like MCMoneypants says (lmao), radio waves arent going to give something more explosive potential than its already got. That goes against basic physics/chemistry. You could maybe accumulate that potential in something like a capacitor though.
I think its more likely they had somethign like tannerite in them, relatively stable, wont explode if you drop it, or get in a car wreck. But overloading a lithium battery would prolly give it enough thermal energy to start the reaction.
This was definetly some kinda supply chain issue and like I seen someone talking about it in r/news or something.
Really insidious. Pagers were the main way they communicated, so they blew them up. Waited a couple days for them to switch to the radios, and blew those up too.
Their ability to communicate is pretty much done.
Cant do anything online because of pegasus, israel owns the cyber space.
:shrugs:
This is interesting and could very well be true Edit: the fact that most people are agreeing it's bombs makes me want to investigate because I just don't believe anyone.
Have you got a source for that claim?
Ignore the down votes. Some people think the only technology available is what they have read about. I still can't talk about technology from the 80's because I have yet to see it exposed. You would be amazed. Probably just Federal agents trying to close your mind to the possibilities.
What is beamforming?
https://archive.fo/2024.09.19-164941/https://www.techtarget.com/searchnetworking/definition/beamforming
https://www.techtarget.com/searchnetworking/definition/beamforming
https://archive.fo/2024.09.19-164155/https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1389128623001743
DeepWave AI
https://archive.fo/2024.09.19-165716/https://deepwavedigital.com/software-products/spectrum-sensing/
Beamforming is when they are flooding a targeted individuals body with certain frequencys using cell phone towers or 6g or something.
We are made up of energy, so its no surprise that different radio waves can do different things.
I would be surprised, if it wasnt true. Considering all the things these fools have done. Like giving hookers lsd to dose their johns and then watching what happens behind a hole in the wall.
https://www.sfgate.com/cannabis/article/cia-agents-mixed-lsd-and-sex-at-sf-brothel-18136017.php
Or what about the black airmen in tuskegee.
Or spraying san fransicso with bacteria.
Its very clear if one pays attention, that this stuff is still happening. They dont care what lives they ruin just for a little bit of knowledge.
If you never watched that movie "old" by m night shyamalan. Give it a watch, its kinda what im talking about. This movie is obviously a rip off of the movie "time trap" but its still good.
I think they did something similar to Cleveland. I don't put nothing past them. They don't value people they view as "beneath" them
Remember, if you're reading about it, it's been in play for 10 years or more. The latest technology is never exposed
I agree with Edward Snowden on this one. the explosions are too regular and too large for battery manipulation. they have to be specially made product i.e explosives.
Do you have a link to what he's saying? I can look later if not edit: got it
https://tass.com/world/1844493
Just to be clear, he may be cool but I don't trust him either.
This. Something doesn't add up. In this video it's shown that everything electrical blew up: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DAETxoIohNT/ They are trying to cover everything up with the talk about the Hungarian company and what not.
Edit: Although it could be a somewhat complicated case. The pagers being bombs and the attack on the second day something else. Or the pagers or electronic devices having something embedded within their electronics. Like having something inside the capacitors or PCB.
I guess we will never know for sure.
Throw your lithium batteries into your burn barrel or charcoal BBQ and tell me if they don't explode.
Back in 2014, when we were closing down FOBs in Afghanistan, we were told to destroy everything. Don't leave anything for the Afghanis. So, we threw some batteries that probably belong to a Harris radio into a burn barrel. Those things exploded. Definitely can blow some fingers off.
This is completely fucking retarded.
Hey man, the brain damage is a side issue
Except it was clearly selective and they openly admitted to hijacking shipments.
Have you never seen a magic trick? If they say look here, something is probably going on somewhere else, distraction, illusion, whatever it's called.
It’s just a prelude to the ground invasion, softening up hard targets (in this case, the command—injuries—and communications—pagers/walkie-talkies—infrastructure of the enemy) to create less resistance to the initial push. There’s nothing being hidden, they declared war on Lebanon the day after the first attack and are going to ground invade sometime after Shabbat.
Misdirection
Ah so!
That's why I don't believe them. This line of reasoning goes against everything you've said in the past
If they could blow off-the-shelf electronic devices, we would have seen dozens of assassinations of this type before now (and at least one researcher would have independently written a paper on the ability to do so, voicing concerns about the safety and stability of li-ion or ni-mh batteries). It’s something so hideously useful to them that they wouldn’t wait to sue it or blow their cover on its possibility by wasting its reveal to the world on a simple attack against only a handful of one enemy group in a partial war.
That’s what doesn’t add up for me. I’m not trusting what jews say because they say it; I’m believing it because anything else is either impossible, too implausible, or out of line with how they actually behave.
They sure are busy trying to confuse people about this one thing.
THIS is why we can't have an Internet of Things!
I can't read any of these papers without signing up or paying but I'm sure they are fascinating:
https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/6931045
Abstract: The radio-frequency damage effects of electro-explosive device are considered based on the transmission line model and the non-Fourier heat conduction model. The detector voltage method for high frequency induced voltage and optic radiation method for transient temperature rise are considered. The useful conclusions that the detector voltage reaches maximum when the length of pin is an integral number of the half wave length and the temperature rise process of electro-explosive device is a strong-transient-state heat conduction process when the radio-frequency damage power is high are drawn by means of numerical calculation and the experiment. The results are useful for radio-frequency damage effect analysis of electro-explosive device.
https://www.scientific.net/AMR.1092-1093.717
Abstract: In this paper, the mechanism of radio frequency (RF) causing fire and explosion directly and indirectly was recommended, studies of RF risks in flammable and explosive environments were summarized, some problems in RF risk researches recently were discussed, study prospects of RF risks in flammable and explosive environments were analyzed. The fact that the mechanisms and conditions of RF igniting combustible gases should be researched by more deeply theories and technological means, and that RF security standards should be laid down and a complete and precise RF security assessment system should be established in flammable and explosive environments was put forward.
This one is readable, it really seems to me something can be done with radio frequencies:
https://www.fcc.gov/engineering-technology/electromagnetic-compatibility-division/radio-frequency-safety/faq/rf-safety
And I'm not the only one thinking some kind of waves: https://boards.4chan.org/k/thread/62523314/dozens-hundreds-according-to-reuters-of-pagers#p62523412
"Whatever. Keep using highly energetic chemicals that react to certain EM explosively"
"look up cell phone explosions just this year then look up the ied disarmament methods and counter insurgency methods 2005-2008."
OR… hear me out. The whole thing is staged crisis acting, complete with fake arms, fake blood, unnecessary shaky cams, etc..
And it didn’t happen.. because fucking Africans in Sierra Leon own iPhones in 2024.
It could be staged but I doubt it because where we live there's a whole lotta people that see no value in human life.
That’s cool. Still doesn’t explain the gore makeup and the lack of proof though.
The culture sees value in death. To be a martyr is the ultimate, even to early Christians. Death does not scare or concern me at all, but I don't welcome it's early arrival either
That requires an impossible isolation to not trigger all devices in proximity. It was 100% explosives.
I agree, it could target by the unique identification each device possesses
If it can be done, I would wager it could be directed.
I would think it's device specific