You ascribe only to them what positives you yourself wish to be recognized for, and I see you fail to mention a single negative to keep them grounded and on par with the rest of us mere mortals. That you’re on the conspiracy section of this website and aren’t starting off your search for the real answer with dismissing everything you can read and be taught by those in authority as possibly but most probably corrupted to suit an agenda and not the real truth is quite frankly disappointing. I ain’t mad at you. I know it’s not even you. You’re parroting the shit you’ve swallowed and I don’t like what those who fed you did but I certainly have no vitriol towards you personally.
Choosing an answer because it’s what you want to be true is a horrible way to get to the truth behind something much less your live your whole life by it.
And if you wish to defer to old scholars and those with higher intellect and reasoning than ourselves I shall indulge in the appeal to authority fallacy and add:
Around 1880, some French professors attempted to formulate a secular morality, they expressed it more or less in these words: God is a useless and a costly hypothesis, so we will do without it.
“The bible accurately records the ages of major characters” yeah that was all I had to read to know I could dismiss the rest. You’re looking to a massively changed over time propaganda book claiming knowledge and facts with the worst proof ever, and thinking it’s true. Stop ascribing human traits to a universe and reality creating phenomenon. There is zero evidence your “god” has any human qualities much less any for it giving a shit about you or any individual at all.
We agree that wind power is unreliable and slow for a means of travel.
I can’t get on board with airships having lower maintenance. Instead of a ridged skin of light material held onto the frame with rivets, you have fabric sewn together, glued, with gas bladders inside. All requiring inspections, repair, disassembly and replacement, not to mention the need to maintain whatever engine you use for propulsion unless you’re a wind only craft in which case you are at the mercy of whatever way the wind sends you. Inclement weather can cause massive damage, large hail can cause punctures and loss of gas, and you have a lower operating ceiling than a pressurized craft. Can’t fly over the storm and get above the weather in an airship like you can a passenger jet.
First I’m the villain for not allowing any and all to fly unrestricted and now you won’t give us all jet engines? Where’s my freedom sir! While I jest, people should be free to choose, and that includes their means of propulsion of choice. You can have a 4 cylinder I’ll take my v8, you can have wind power I’ll take a turbo jet. Freedom!
I don’t believe we’re living in fords nightmare. I believe a lot of personal choices made for selfish and foolish reasons have led us down this path. A lot of people view their cars less as extensions of themselves and an important tool for mobility and freedom and more as a mobile chair with an engine. They happily give away control and power for a neat feature, more perceived safety, more complicated repair and maintenance that ends up being far more expensive. While I’m no Ford fan, the assembly line giving more people access to an automobile has been a good thing.
The rules were not all chosen by us, this is true. Many rules I deal with daily were forced into me and decided long before I was born. I understand a general “no killing others” rule, good for society, but speed limiting all of us when some clearly have better skill and machines to match isn’t fair it’s downright criminal. But if it’s so hard to even grab that slice of freedom back, grabbing the whole sky is about as out of reach as grabbing the moon from the top of a ladder.
Dirigibles don’t require as long of runways in ideal conditions but we need to plan for bad weather bad wind, their large size requires a lot of maneuvering room and you’ll need to keep spare gas handy in a safe storage to add additional gas to peoples airships. This requires an investment of infrastructure that seems to only cater to the rich.
“Green energy” is a selling point that may as well be snake oil energy at this point. Wind is unreliable, still uses petroleum in the generator, non recyclable fibreglass blades(can’t we use these slow breaking down hunks to reinforce roads? Cmon man!) and kill birds, bats and insects. Solar is a pipe dream with low efficiency to start with, lose efficiency as they are used, require expensive rare earth material to construct them, and generate nothing when covered in snow. Hydroelectric dams are somewhat green, if you just ignore the massive environmental disturbance, construction with specialized concrete and massive use of petroleum powered vehicles for its entire construction. And they can’t be put just anywhere they require a specific head height and pressure to operate. Geothermal is nice but like dams have to be selective of their placement and no free lunch. A small house installation sure, but a power plant from geothermal for a city requires a lot of maintenance and is only really viable where the crust is thin to start with.
We need to knock off the green energy idea and work on a new form of portable energy, and also work at miniaturized nuclear. I’d take an electric car/truck if it was self contained, nuclear and just needed the power source swapped out every 10-15 years with the power and range staying consistent during that period. Driving an overgrown cell phone battery recharged by coal power plants that loses range every time it goes through a charge cycle is the opposite of ideal.
To answer your “to the stars” question, IF it was only sci-fi made up rhetoric, like pretty much every religion, it would be a huge blow to our need to explore. I don’t think for an instant that space is “fake and gay”, amateur astronomy has been a thing far longer than either of us have been alive and we have lots of info of stars and planets and moons that you can look into without having to listen to a single lying government body. The idea that this planet is all we have access to is like saying this glass of water is all the ocean we get. Totally untrue and easy for any curious person to look into.
Waiting for the enemy to return what they stole from us is of course a shitty strategy but no one can talk about any action to reclaim what’s ours on these forums without being called a glowy shill. 1776 proved a small dedicated group can achieve greatness for many, but they’ve done wonders in replacing our warriors with Avocado toast soy drinking pussies.
Getting stuck in the age of sail was a thing. Waiting on the wind while you’re stranded and your supplies dwindling flat out sucks and can spell death if you’re not well supplied or rescued. Sailboats are still a thing albeit not popular anymore due to their drawbacks. Unpowered transoceanic flights are more of a niche than a desire of the average Joe.
Lessening the maintenance of a flying craft is something I won’t budge on and neither will any regulating body. Breaking down on the side of the road is terrible in extreme weather condtions(too hot or too cold) but at least you’re not falling out of the sky. A breakdown on an airship may be a gentle decent or it may be uncontrolled and slam the airship into a crowded freeway or a park or a school. If you’re leaving the ground, your maintenance MUST be a high priority, it can’t be lessened. Too much at stake for innocent people who had nothing to do with someone else scrimping on needed repairs.
Honestly I would love absolute freedom for all with its corresponding responsibility. But we have bad drivers, illegal drivers, hit and runs, risk takers and speeders(guilty). The airways are already fairly busy as is, adding millions more craft can be a nightmare for logistics. Right now any flying craft had to file a flight plan. A pain in the ass general drivers don’t need to do. Private pilot licenses already exist and could be expanded to include air ships if they were to increase in popularity but under no circumstances could an unlicensed party fly their airship. I would LOVE flying cars and VTOL anywhere, but it doesn’t take more than a few seconds thought to see accidents and drawbacks associated with such a system.
As for the lower speed collisions being less of an issue, no sadly. It’s not the 1950’s with 5mph bumpers where it’s expected you’ll touch another vehicle. If your airship basket collides with my airships propeller, damage can be huge if not fatal for one or both crafts. You don’t see hot air balloons playing bumper cars for a reason. A casual bump to a high voltage power line can be instantly fatal. Bumping into a building could destroy your airship and everyone onboard could perish without much chance to escape safely.
I love flying. I wish I could do more of it. I’d own my own small plane if I had the means and the money to build my own landing strip on my ranch. But allowing every Tom Dick and Harry to have an airship and fly however they want is a recipe for disaster. When the world was younger and the sky was less busy im sure it would have been great for a time. But the world we live in doesn’t make it very easy to pull off now. The road has rules, the ocean has rules and the sky has rules. Once we reach the stars, there will still be shipping lanes and again more rules. I would much rather the rules be simple and fair to everybody but they haven’t put me in charge yet.
The downside to airships like these is the wind. Fighting against the wind to get to your destination sucks in a low powered craft, if not outright impossible depending on conditions and power output. Maintenance needs to be high since you’re flying and crashing into the ground or ocean can be lethal. And letting everyone just fly as they wish would be brutal. Think of how bad traffic and accidents are in the city now, and how they’re not as bad because everyone’s on the ground already. Add in 1000 feet and some dickhead texting on his phone and running into your airship, or a bad driver coming in and plowing into 4 or more parked airships. We can’t have nice things because we’re slaves to love and can’t bear to cull the stupid out of our population. Best you can hope for is a jetsons style electric flying chair with a windscreen. Until you can’t charge it of course.
Okay, just WHERE in the fuck in my country are you living to make these claims? I’m from the prairies here. Manitoba, and Saskatchewan with family in Alberta and spent some time there but mostly MB and SK. NO the majority of immigrants are NOT European. I worked for maple leaf pork and watched them go through multiple countries including Mexico, el slavador Ethiopia and fucking china for immigrant workers. It’s not Poland, Finland or Sweden sending people here. It’s third world en mass coming in. Right now I’m surrounded by mostly hard working phillapeano people who while nice enough sure as shit aren’t European or doctors and engineers.
It’s more honorary than anything regarding the queen. We acknowledge our roots but have had full independence for a long time. Our provinces do have some say in matters similar to the USA. Setting the drinking age and marijuanna laws are province specific, my province of Manitoba has 18 for drinking/smoking but the neighbouring ones were both 19(no one cares about up north boarder, too far to go for any town so no one really does it). We have tons of kids come from the next province over to party here where it’s legal and then go home. Not perfect but that’s the world we have. And if Turd-doh! can be a dictator, hell why can’t I?
I feel your pain fren. Most consumer shit these days is meant to be disposable. The old saying rings true “if you want something done right you have to do it yourself.” If you want it to last, and be easily repairable, you need to make it yourself. Personally I’ve wanted a grill built out of a cool car front end ever since I saw one in Gone in 60 Seconds, although I won’t be as foolish as the crew was and use actual rubber tires that melt from the heat. Solid metal wheel that can be painted and made to last, thanks. Companies that focus on quality these days are as rare as rocking horse shit and it doesn’t seem to be getting any better. Anything you make well will be churned out in a Chinese sweat shop for peanuts with hour brand misspelt on the chinesium parts.
I’d have to replace Prime Minister Dumb and Dumber hair up here, and they might leave me be for a little while. Canada doesn’t matter anyways right?
No, it used to be common sense. Common sense died a long time ago. Now we just have clown world. Where sending money to other countries and skimming most of it off is the standard operating model, and using your citizens money on them is so outdated it may as well be Stonehenge installation manuals.
Hindsight is always 20-20. If I could get into federal office first action is to suspend all foreign aid.
I have to ask, what issue do you want solved? I’m pro nuclear power myself and would love to see more of it used instead of coal which is a finite resources and dirty to boot. If we had worked on nuclear tech maybe we could have a scaled down generator for an EV power source as an option instead of an overgrown cell phone battery.
An interesting read fren…. The more they don’t want us to know, the more will try and figure it out
They may be chocolate moose… ba trump tish
You’re gonna love these moose. They’re yuge, we have the best moose folks. We’re gonna moose this board and Canada is gonna pay for it!
They’ll be coming by Bison transport after a short stop at Beaver Trucking for a quick repair!
I will give you SOME maple syrup but you have to take 2 moose…
Agreed. People are too infatuated with the 3d printers that they don’t stop to think that they’re making something stupid. Something that could be done faster and cheaper with conventional materials and methods. Using a 3d printer to make your own trigger mechanism, parts for stabilizing fins, etc would be cool and smart. Building a tube out of plastic when a metal pipe is so easy to come across is just pants on head retarded. To a hammer, every problem looks like a nail. And to a 3d printer fanatic, every item looks like it should be printed in molten plastic.
So they’re intentionally mislabeling the people to garner sympathy rather than tell the truth. Most of us use the common distinctions and Overton window when it comes to left/right. Slightly right of centre, conservative. Farthest to the right, total anarchy. Slightly left of centre, libertarian. Furthest to the left, authoritarian fascist/socialist/communist/totalitarian government control.
Kinda weird seeing how they love their useful idiots using those same symbols and ideologies here in North America. I wouldn’t be sad to see left wing parties and communism banned here to be honest. More of the government can be axed too while we’re at it.
Because they’re speaking French and he equates them to be from France, and also wrongly equating them to surrender monkies from their loss in WW2 when they’ve been in more land wars than any one else, the French foreign legion is still world renowned, and America wouldn’t have ever formed if not for supplies and help from the French, etc etc. But hey, it’s easier to insult the French for one loss than actually know history.
15 years ago is 2007, this chart shows higher numbers in 2013, I’m guessing those numbers are made up like the Covid ones? What proof is there that power consumption peaked in 2007?
On a large pile of your money, I suppose? You’ll use any buzzword on anyone, your opinion means nothing to me. The boy who cried racist, your word has no power anymore. Racist, extremist, sexist, anything you want to accuse your opponent you slap an ist on it. Don’t care. Don’t give a shit. Do you honestly give a flying fuck with a random stranger on the internet thinks? How sad is your life? Do you do anything of any worry at all or is this the sole reason you wake up in the morning? How do I sleep? Just fine. How do you live? Can you face yourself in the mirror?
So many points to respond to, and I just say I’ve been enjoying this conversation immensely. :)
Wind and solar power may be vast and free to all but making use of these in a way that suits your need at the time can be difficult. If I need to fly home to the east and the wind is blowing south west, a wind only craft is not going to get me home, unless I can get above that wind into a jet stream going the opposite direction, ride it further than my destination to give me time and space to get down through the opposite direction wind and land on my property. Not impossible to do but for the average person who gets thrown off with road constructions causing a detour this will be a major obstacle for a lot of people.
A lower operating ceiling is a must unless you’re going to pressurize your cabin and have oxygen available. This adds more complexity and additional systems and weight that you now need a bigger craft to lift and maintain. There are no free lunches when it comes to engineering.
I disagree about jet engines being dangerous and expensive. Okay not so much about the expensive because they are currently but so was the first automobile and tractor. Mass production could bring their cost down to a reasonable level. If it was paired with a nuclear power source instead of an overgrown cell phone battery we could indeed make some interesting modes of transport.
The need to explore and travel is indeed beaten out of the average cubicle prisoner. Most people seem satisfied with a glorified mobile chair and have some of the worst taste in vehicles I can imagine but to each their own I’m told. Many would opt for the briefcase flying car from the jetsons cartoon, while others prefer a sci-fi inspired vtol craft capable of fantastic things. There’s no one size fits all solution and it’s foolish to try to implement one. We need to have a. Road range of transport to fit every need. An electric vehicle is suicidally stupid in my neck of the woods and my pickup is a horrible pain for an apartment dwelling city driver to park. My 1977 luxury car is too big for most people in my life to want to drive and a small import shithox(hell even the small domestic ones) are too cramped for my 6’5” frame. We need options for many different people and situations, so while you could have your flying airship, for 95% of people, it wouldn’t do the job they need their transportation to do.
I must reject your proposal of space being modern mythology. Meteorites and satellite signal where no cell signal exists is enough to discredit a lack of space for me. I can look for more proof and have, but don’t feel the need to list everything here unless you’re really curious.
Getting called names means fuck all in the end, but when it serves to shut down all rational discussion it’s desired effect has been achieved. I understand the need for shutting down glowies and following the rules to keep the website online but at the same time we don’t have free speech which should be criminal.
You’re right about it being a rich small group that caused the last major uprising that was successful. Private people owned warships and cannons. Nowadays they own corporations and mercenaries. The world has changed and so must we, if we wish to be more than a serfs.
Ideally I’d love a world where you jump in your iron man suit, fly over and do your work or errand without being injured, fly home and enjoy your day doing whatever. It still wouldn’t be a perfect world but transpiration would be awesome. I’m a bit of a speed demon and a slow transatlantic flight on an airship would drive me nuts from lack of productivity during the voyage. Air travel with jets makes getting there simply a part of the process instead of a massive undertaking unto itself.