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posted ago by ghost_of_aswartz ago by ghost_of_aswartz +22 / -0

This is a rant, but it's also a discourse on an emergent, tacit conspiracy of manufacturers--possibly an actual, signed secret contract, or possibly an unspoken, unsigned secret accord or collusion--to offer an array of inadequate consumer goods in order to ensure "churn", the replacement of goods in the shortest possible time.

This happens with cars. This happens with houses. This happens especially--I noticed this weekend--with BBQ grills.

Outdoor things should ONLY be stainless because rust exists. Yes I know, you put a cover on it. But when you're done cooking, you have to let your HOTSTEEL grill cool down for 2 hours before putting a cover on it. That is stupid, and maybe it starts raining on you before you get a chance.

That's why you do stainless and it it rains on it, who gives a S?

And if it's stainless throughout, you can even leave the grill OPEN to the elements and it won't matter either.. the rain will actually help clean the grill later

A grill is SO dirty, that what you want to do is dump the cold ashes in the woods somewhere, take out a garden hose and hose the whole thing down, let it soak and then clean it. or if you have a pressure washer.....If you do this to steel you rust it.

Stupid!

What do people want in a grill? Do they want to just make hamburgers and hot dogs?

Well, if so, they can get a george forman table top thing.

But wait, they might want to do shish kebabs...that won't work. What if they want the grill flavor from charcoal? What if they want smoke?


Pretty much everyone wants the same thing--to grill and to smoke; to slow smoke, to griddle outside...they want something VERSATILE

I think there's a difference between "fashion" and "function"

People will always want fashion--meaning different looking stuff, in order to show off their own personal styles

But FUNCTION? people want the same.


They want an appliance that will grill AND smoke, and they don't want it in their house because of the smoke. So it's always an outdoor thing. Stainless

But no. 90% of grills are designed to rust to death over 7 yrs time

The ONLY thing that people might want that is different from each other is size and aesthetics. So I'm not talking about those things. Rich people or those with lots of friends might want a big expensive one. Other people might want a small functional one. But here's my gripe

Some are made of steel and some are made of stainless steel, but the stainless steel ones have steel parts, ensuring that if that part rusts, the whole thing is worthless. So stainless is more about the aesthetics unless the entire thing is stainless

Steel grills being made of steel is why they end up at Salvation army--the bottoms rust out.. Steel RUSTS! so why are they making an outdoor thing out of STEEL instead of stainless. Galvanized is not an option because the galvanization degrades with heat and puts out dangerous fumes. Some galvanic processes (coated not dipped) causes cancer.

So you have steel and stainless. Judging by the costs I've seen, even expensive grills are made of regular steel, so I don't see that stainless being more expenisve is the dividing factor

People want the same thing but they are forced to make choices that necessitate they buy additional things or appliances

If you get a grill, you don't always get a smoker. You can get a grill AND a smoker, even though they are essentially the same thing. It's possible to make a grill that IS a smoker but you dont' see these things a lot even though they are doing the same thing. The industry is FIXATED on a particular DESIGN PATTERN

If you get a grill that is charcoal, you don't get the option to use propane. You can get a propane AND charcoal hybrid grill, but you don't get the wood chips hopper. You can get woodchips and electric, but you don't get electric grilling only option, or propane also?

Why in the fucks is there NOT a grill that does ALL THREE and also does SMOKER? Is this so hard? Apparently it is.

What people want, is a smoker-grill that is temperature controlled (meaning: electric--that's the only way), that can do woodchips, charcoal (that you put under grill), with optional propane under it. They want the flame blocker / heat distributer and they want to be able to smoke on low temp. And finally they want it to be stainless steel all throughout. These things aren't hard but you cannot find a grill that is this versatile

Also it should be insulated to keep the costs low and the temps stable. That means that the exterior should be double paneled with some high temp injection of vermiculite/perlite, or vacuum. This grill will be costly but some grills are over 1000 dollars and there is no reason it should cost that much, when you look at the replacement parts

I am just sick of going from big box store to store and finding that not a single grill does what I want it to do and I don't want to buy a grill AND a smoker but I may have to. That makes me angry.

Yes there are grills that are smokers but apparently you have to cook on your knees or something. Because the geniuses didn't make a stand for it and though that the smoker couldn't for some reason be taller than 5'...not sure why THAT is. But you just have to add a stand for it yourself. Also, it's steel, not stainless. Dumb

That's just the grill industry. Now do cars. Now do computers. etc.