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ImBillCurtis 10 points ago +12 / -2

The real red flags are in the hyper variable regions in the mtDNA. Don’t focus on the phenotypes. Also note that carbon dating is a preposterous crock of shit.

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ryry117 [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

HOLY FUCK thank you. Carbon dating is the most laughable shit ever. We completely guessed on the half life age. We have no idea if we are measuring carbon's true half life.

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ImBillCurtis 2 points ago +2 / -0

I could but trying to cram three semesters of study and 3 years of research into a paragraph isn’t really going to convince anybody. You should explore it for yourself

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ImBillCurtis 2 points ago +2 / -0

A good start is human chromosome fusion stuff here : https://www.icr.org/article/human-chromosome-2-fusion-never-happened

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megalithicallstar 9 points ago +10 / -1

it's convenient when one can throw out millions of years ago with no proof.

Anyone or any program narrator that says something to the effect of "4 million years ago...." I automatically know they're lying. no way to measure this number in front of million.

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ryry117 [S] 1 point ago +2 / -1

Yup.

I also like how it just keeps increasing. I think recently they've increased it to billions with no new studies done to confirm it.

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FishyMan420 -9 points ago +1 / -10

How to say you don't understand science without saying you don't understand science.

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smithsonian-institution/how-do-scientists-date-fossils-180972391/

https://www.amnh.org/exhibitions/permanent/human-origins/understanding-our-past/fossil-dating-methods

If you still don't understand, and you won't, do more research. But you won't do that either because that would shatter your world view.

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megalithicallstar 3 points ago +3 / -0

"science" you believe in that shit you are clueless, bub. you probably took all the clot shots they call vaccines too. carbon prints cannot be measured in the context of "millions" of years. you are the type that simply nod your head yes whenever a "scientist" says 38 million years ago. you accept it because it's "science" undebated unchallenged yet you accepting it as truth. what to see an invisible virus too under a microscope? dumbass. stop believing in everything. we've been lied to. you should wake up by now. Things are not what they seem. sorry to break it to you but what you were taught as child is a lie. unlearn what you were taught.

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BladesLastBottle 6 points ago +6 / -0

amen.

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YouMisspelledProfit 3 points ago +3 / -0

one should be able prove or disprove the THEORY of evolution in a lifetime by performing the right experiment. Start off experimenting on something with a short life span and choose the right stimulus to expose it to. We are talking about things like bacteria here and the obvious choice would be to expose the bacteria to an increasing amount of something that kills bacteria such as titrating up a concentration of bleach. the same could be done with brewers yeast and alcohol if it was desired to have an end result that was functional and profitable. "non-GMO" yeast used in brewing in high-test beer.

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DangerCat 3 points ago +3 / -0

Well... they've done these experiments with bacteria at Michigan State. They've been going on for decades. It's actually really interesting. You can look them up and see what you think.

Personally I thought that they verified the parts of 'evolution' that are true (tall people have tall kids etc), but not the parts that are in question (speciation).

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BlueDrache 1 point ago +1 / -0

Drosophila is the model organism used in evolution tests because of the small number of genes.

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remindmelater 3 points ago +3 / -0

I agree...evolution is propaganda....what's happening is de-evolution.....In the past everything was bigger....dragon fly for instance with two foot wing span couldn't fly today....people lived longer, could see better had thicker bones.....and now we're getting dumber.......everything has been corrupted and so is de-evolving....just like the Bible says.....

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remindmelater 3 points ago +3 / -0

The bible accurately records the ages of major characters....and they lived hundreds of years. Noah for instance was still around when nimrod came to power I believe. Trey Smith has written a lot about this and has done archeological work that explains that the earth is not as old as we've been led to believe. He has some videos on youtube you can watch. Very interesting stuff.

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Dualkalibur 0 points ago +1 / -1

“The bible accurately records the ages of major characters” yeah that was all I had to read to know I could dismiss the rest. You’re looking to a massively changed over time propaganda book claiming knowledge and facts with the worst proof ever, and thinking it’s true. Stop ascribing human traits to a universe and reality creating phenomenon. There is zero evidence your “god” has any human qualities much less any for it giving a shit about you or any individual at all.

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remindmelater 1 point ago +1 / -0

You're entitled to your opinion....but spewing forth vitriol about it is not very nice to say the least and there's no need for it. There's a lot of people devoted to studying the scriptures...some are actually smarter than you and I think we are.....and they've figured out things which cannot be explained by your so called science. Some of these men and women of faith I respect greatly.....in fact I think that teaching people the difference between right and wrong is one of the most important things in life.....How do you thank somebody for that?....I think it's rather rash to dismiss them so lightly.

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Dualkalibur 1 point ago +1 / -0

You ascribe only to them what positives you yourself wish to be recognized for, and I see you fail to mention a single negative to keep them grounded and on par with the rest of us mere mortals. That you’re on the conspiracy section of this website and aren’t starting off your search for the real answer with dismissing everything you can read and be taught by those in authority as possibly but most probably corrupted to suit an agenda and not the real truth is quite frankly disappointing. I ain’t mad at you. I know it’s not even you. You’re parroting the shit you’ve swallowed and I don’t like what those who fed you did but I certainly have no vitriol towards you personally. Choosing an answer because it’s what you want to be true is a horrible way to get to the truth behind something much less your live your whole life by it.
And if you wish to defer to old scholars and those with higher intellect and reasoning than ourselves I shall indulge in the appeal to authority fallacy and add: Around 1880, some French professors attempted to formulate a secular morality, they expressed it more or less in these words: God is a useless and a costly hypothesis, so we will do without it.

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remindmelater 1 point ago +1 / -0

LOL....that's hilarious...."French professors".....you know why French tanks have rear view mirrors....to watch the fighting......ha ha......Next you'll be telling me Aesoph's Fables is completely useless because it is a book who's very name means it's a lie.....and every story is a made up fabrication......

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Dualkalibur 0 points ago +1 / -1

Yeah mock the French who’ve been in more wars around the world than America and without who’s help you’d still be a British colony. Don’t mind André-Marie Ampère, you don’t need solenoids and it’s not like the standard measurement of the ampere is named after him or nothing. Just how fucked in the head ARE you? But then you rank Aesops fables highly on your reading list than history and science books showing the entire process so it’s honestly not surprising.

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SlickRhetoric 1 point ago +1 / -0

Evidence of human qualities? Jesus.

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Dualkalibur 1 point ago +1 / -0

Only if you believe the bible. Human ego and hubris makes people want to think the creator of the universe and reality is just like them. There’s no logical reason for an entity that can manipulate energy to be anything like a human. Only wishful thinking would lead to that conclusion.

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EnoughOfYourLies 1 point ago +10 / -9

Fairly certain the theory requires pressure and mutation. Discounting it based on such a shitty example has no value.

Let's instead look at hummingbirds, here we see a much shorter window of time to analyze and we are rewarded with a wide variety of change within the variants produced. Bordering speciation at the very least.

We can see the reason for the change, the pressure on the being. Go learn to learn.

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ryry117 [S] 6 points ago +9 / -3

We have no way to show that sub species are new though, which would be required for evolution. As far as we know all these species have been around at the same time.

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EnoughOfYourLies -2 points ago +6 / -8

Well, keep digging. You are suggesting that the variance between the various ones we have discovered does not reveal an incremental change. I think the onus is on you to show that one does not exist.

We can simply look at beaks to reduce it down.

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jc99ta 2 points ago +3 / -1

Much like how viral mutations will favor those that allow the host to live to spread the disease.

Same reason the "vaccines" resulted in so many Covid variants, in spite of the media spinning it as the unvaxxed causing them. It was the biological pressure of vaccinating against a very specific set of proteins, leaving mutations an inevitably.

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OneMoreTim3 1 point ago +1 / -0

How does pressure force a 'mutation,? I thought evolution was a series of mutations and the environmental changes chose which of those mutated animals survived.

How did life start? Hundreds of amino acids sat in a soup and got hit by lightning? Then they bacame a prokaryotic life form that was not only in a suitable environment, but also had a working metabolism and ready food source to digest and a reproductive system to replicate itself? Thatd not even getting into eukariitic, DNA, mitochondria and organnella symbiotic requirements.

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EnoughOfYourLies 0 points ago +1 / -1

A good example of pressure forcing a mutation is where the environment will not allow survival without a given mutation. so all die except the mutated as a simple example.

too much generalization to try to fit the narrative you have been taught.

I do not think we can easily declare the path a given life form has taken.

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xolotltlaloc 0 points ago +1 / -1

correct

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EnoughOfYourLies 1 point ago +1 / -0

another useless post thanks for your braindead comment. But clearly as the statement suggests without any need to change why would change occur?

Beat it loser.

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EnoughOfYourLies -1 points ago +1 / -2

Don't bother writing your fucking idiotic shit to me go back to reddit and jerk off your leftist boyfriend loser.

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EnoughOfYourLies 1 point ago +1 / -0

Oh I seem mad? because just having a glance at your post history proves me 100% correct, you are a simple minded far left brainless type.

I laugh at your stupid musings, feel sorry for me shit, I am happy you read so much into my words.

I was saying, don't bother speaking to me like you will convince me of anything other than your leftist nuttery.

You have nothing logical to say, just spammy rhetoric, I suspect you are just a migrant at the keyboard. pounding away your hateful bullshit.

beat it loser.

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the-new-style 1 point ago +1 / -0

We are not members of a group

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xolotltlaloc -3 points ago +2 / -5

just because a lineage is found to not evolve doesn't mean evolution doesn't exist.

right?

#logic

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DangerCat 1 point ago +2 / -1

It's more that evolution can't be a scientific theory, because we can't do multiple repeated experiments.

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OneMoreTim3 1 point ago +1 / -0

Cant prove a negative right?

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FishyMan420 -9 points ago +1 / -10

Theists don't understand logic or science, that's why they're theists.

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MO-Carpenter 1 point ago +1 / -0

Are laws of logic a social construct or does the known universe behave logically regardless of human observation?

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Avoca -3 points ago +1 / -4

You're telling me you never evolved in your life? You just let yourself repeat history? Sounds like a a YOU problem.

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FishyMan420 -9 points ago +1 / -10

Evolution is adaptation to the environment and other changes. Not everything about a creature must change, especially if nothing or very little about the environment changes. Sometimes nothing changes.

To address your actual picture, where does that quote come from? "Between a million to 10,000 years." Age dating is far more precise than that, going to need a source. Also going to need a source on the pictures and various expert's opinions and rationale. You know, things we can test and falsify.

In contrast here is a 50 part video series detailing the systematic classification of life, with facts and evidences you can easily look up and verify yourself, as opposed to a shitty image that means nothing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXQP_R-yiuw&list=PLXJ4dsU0oGMLnubJLPuw0dzD0AvAHAotW