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CrazyRussian 2 points ago +2 / -0

I thought there was something later in 1950 or 55? Finland expanded.

No, at that time there already was trade established between USSR and Finland. Peace treaty after WWII was established in 1948. Finland lost some land again and paid a reparations for participating in a war against USSR on the side of Germany, but in exchange got full sovereignty and even was not sovetised in any sense. USSR didn't intervene in internal politics of Finland, however Finland choose to be on side with USSR in international politics.

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CrazyRussian 2 points ago +2 / -0

I thought there was a war with Finland after WW2

No, there was a war before WW2. Started in 1939 after clashes on the USSR-Finland border and ended in 1940 with Findland loss of land critical for USSR defence, especially around Leningrad(S.Petersburg).

After WW2 Finland was defeated along with Axis, and left for themself. Soon, Finland become one of the closest trade partner with USSR among capitalist countries.

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CrazyRussian 2 points ago +2 / -0

Shortly, the narrative of a "Ukrainian" looks like that - "Europe is our best friend and they will give us everything to defeat moskals who do not allow us to thrive on our land". That is since 1991. Just when all MSM and education tell you that West will give everything necessary and the reason of poverty and mess is only Russians, there is nothing strange in current situation at all.

Don't you remember how few years ago majority of people in nearly all countries willingly believed in coronahoax? The same way people of Ukraine believed that they are Ukrainians and if they will hate Russians West will provide everything for them to prosper. They learned to dissociate themselves from and hate Russians, but Western elites just swindled them with prosperity. So now they demand Western part of deal.

Exactly like vaxxed idiots today begin to demand satisfaction.

It is not like they want to steal something, it is like they feel that the West owe them prosperity and defeat over the source of all their problems - Russians. They truly run as refugees to the West and demand luxury hotels and big welfare payments because they think that if they fulfilled their part of deal, then Western promise should be fulfilled without questions.

Of course, Europeans, unaware about that scam deal "Hate Russians in exchange to prosperity", and see just foreigners who wnat to stole everything around and demanding things for free.

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CrazyRussian 2 points ago +2 / -0

So it won in that regard.

Kind of. This happened many times, but eventually always ended in Russia growth in territory.

But aside from this they did win a previous proxy war against Russia. Finland.

It was Russian Empire who liberated Finns from Swedes in the first place. It was Russians who gifted soverenity and statehood to the Finns. Some tensions started only after Bolshevik Revolution, And no, Finland in no way won that war. Finland lost 10% of land to the USSR, including town of Vyborg as a result of that war, if you are not aware, but eventually, after WWII Finland was pretty friendly to the USSR, even regardless of narrative and losses. And again, after USSR fall, some tensions arised between Finland and Russia, but again they was quickly resolved up to the state when there was nearly no border and it was regular weekend entertainment for locals to ride for shopping in each other towns. Got the obvious pattern? Project it to current situation. Finns by themselves, perfectly fine with Russians. It is Western elites trying to use any chance to use Finland against Russia.

The location, the history, the tactics.

Not really. Western elites tribe is extremely conservative in their methods. If you take a look in a history of Finland, especially on how it was influenced to become hostile to Russia, you will find a lot of similarities with everything in Ukraine. Suddenly, you even find representatives of same tribe that infiltrate and began to pull the strings of their victim. Even rethorics of Finland president of the time of Soveit-Finland war was pretty similar to current rethoric of Zelenskiy. Because it is just from the same source, as simple as that.

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CrazyRussian 2 points ago +2 / -0

Ukraine's biggest problem is they're a common thief.

Ukraine's biggest problem is that they have no any real national identity necessary to be a nation state somehow respected by the Western elites. For those who rule the West, Ukrainians will always be same millenia hated Russians who don't respect that elite Jewish families, regardless of how deep "Ukrainians" will swallow Western dick. Even if population completely brainwashed to think they are "Ukrainians, Europeans, whose only difference from Russians is that they are not Russians", all that Nulands/Blinkens will see only severely hated Russians, whose ancestors exterminated Khazarian Kaganate and not allowed Jews to do what they want in that Russian territory until Bolshevik Revolution.

Since the 1991 Western elites heavily used that Ukraine construct only as a tool against their eternal enemy. Again, they do not distinguish between Ukrainians and Russians at all. From their view that was a "smart" move to force one Russians to fight against other Russians. But at the same time they denied to really do something for the Ukrainians at all, even a little bit.

Ukraine, since 1991 always, at every single moment of time, was much poorer than Russia or Belarus. Western masters, along with pushing "not a Russia" propaganda, could easily make Ukraine a rich and prosperous region on a post-USSR territory, and make them an example of choosing their side, but eventually it was Ukrainians who seek a job in Russia and even Belarus in millions, not vice-versa. That single fact tell you everything you need to know about real attitude of the Western elites to their new puppets they successfully brainwashed to use against Russia and Belarus. Western masters just could not do anything good to Ukrainins, just because of that millenia hatred against Russians. It is absolute no-go for them, for purely ethnical, tribal reasons.

There was no any surprise that Eastern Ukraine regions turned to the Russia to get rid of that western dick sucking misery they lived in since 1991. It was inevitable, even without 2014 coup and outlawing Russian language.

So now, when Western elites plan totally failed, they do what they always did with their puppets - throw them under the bus. Arrogance and ignorance of Western elites, blinded with that tribal hatred towards Russians make a fate of their Ukrainian LARP even worse.

Just think a second - What could NATO military teach anybody about fighting with Russians? NATO idiots never ever was in a real battle with Russians since NATO foundation, not even talking about any wins. What could they teach Ukrainians about fighting with Russians? Absolutely nothing. However, at the same time, Ukrainians had full access for necessary knowledge about how Russian military fight from USSR times. But all that knowledge was destroyed during Western pushed "desovetisation" of newborn Ukraine. So, you clearly see how West destroyed all useful knowledge and pushed useless western garbage, even in such important area as military. Along with crappy western weapons designed for sales, not for battles, things gets even more sad for Ukraine LARP project.

Western elites truly hate people of Ukraine no less than Russians and Belorussians. That is why you see what you see now, and that is why the Western elites will lost that war, may be along with leading role they hope for in coming NWO shit. Inability to overcome their own tribal hatred along with arrogance and ignorance is a reason for that sad circus we see.

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CrazyRussian 2 points ago +2 / -0

http://travelingclassroom.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Abbot-in-monument.jpg

Statue in honor of Orthodox Abbot Agathangelos from Crete who lead a monastery, fought against Germans in WWII and saved many allied soldiers.

Of course, it is not a Jesus itself, and there was no AK at the time, but monk with a gun is not something unusual for Orthodox Christians.

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CrazyRussian 2 points ago +2 / -0

Article that I think is closest to the source of that story - https://sibdepo.ru/news/tisulskijj-sarkofag.html (in Russian, use online translator)

Unfortunately, I didn't found original article of 2002 from "Khakasia" paper, but above one have decent quotes from it.

Both, original story and debunking attempts are more than questionable, so it is not enough information to make any definite conclusion.

Meanwhile fairy tales about princesses in crystal sarcophages that are sleepeng eternally are quite common, also Orthodox Christians believe in undecayable bodies of saints that kind of exist really, but not in chrystal sarcophages in liquid, and I heard about same thing, kind of bodies of monks that achieved full nirvana in caves that stay undecayed for centuries, but also not in sarcophages with liquid from buddhists.

So, there is at least some background exists for such phenomena.

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CrazyRussian 1 point ago +1 / -0

How that helps?

IDK, does anybody at least had a thought to step up a little from that zero level and f.e. set a kind of experiment on Musk to find out some real and new information? Something very simple and easy - say get a holy water from some truly apostolic church like Greek/Russian/American Orthodox one or Armenian Apostolic, and then spray Musk with that holy water (or set up him to drink it or to step in it, or to touch something wetted with that holy water or whatever) and share the result.

Either he did not notice it, and that will means that he is just a bad human, either we will get some weird reaction, that will mean he is at least posessed. Repeat it several times, to chek the result is repeatable. Isn't that something that will be pretty helpful to know for shure before going to the next stage?

At least this will be something new, with some unknown yet result, not same old and well-known shit that is out there for centuries.

Seriously, I have a 19 century book printed in pre-Revolution Russian Empire about masons and masonry history in Russian Empire with a chapter about identifying masons with nearly same set of symbols and how they could be found in different places.

More that a century passed, and there is still the same level of knowledge, without any signs of further progress.

Same with other similar things - Zion Elders Protocols, f.e. here for a century too. Nobody added anything significant to them, no new knowledge, no any new information.

Please, understand, that gathering knowledge for the sake of gathering knowledge is absolutely senseless if this knowledge does not mean to be used at least to gather new knowledge or at most do something real using that knowledge.

OK, Musk is mason. Or not, just clown playing mason. Or mindlessly parroting his bosses behaviour. How it does matter? What is it useful for?

Isn't knowledge of how to jam Starlink is much more useful, than knowledge of Musk masonry status? Or directly, practically useful knowledge is not welcomed among masonry researchers at all?

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CrazyRussian 1 point ago +1 / -0

I got it. Finally.

All that searching of masonic/illuminati/jusuits/whatever symbols in everything looks exactly as results that you get from artificial neural networks trained to detect dogs when you force it to find dogs in the image where is no dogs at all, f.e. - https://i.ytimg.com/vi_webp/DgPaCWJL7XI/maxresdefault.webp

Fascinating. And it's not like we need some additional proof that elites and their puppets are fucking morons, i.e. like Musk not been mason would have been nice guy on our side. Who cares if some moron is mason or not? Not being mason could make him on our side or what? Or it's solely being mason make this good man a moron?

For years I see a lot of such ANN failures with gusetures, numerology and other stuff likely aimed to prove that somebody is a member of some secret cult or society, but I saw nothing about, say, what exact longue Musk visits, with name, exact address and links to street camera streams around, who is his peers in that masonic lounge with names, connections and details and so on. But no. Look - he made a guesture, he is bad! Look, he wear a Rotary club pin, he is bad! So what? Where is information? I mean real information, that add some facts and details not known earlier, not useless garbage or senseless noise.

There are tons of different secret elite societies in the world, many celebrities are members of this cults, clubs. societies and other kagals for whatever reason, that is perfectly known for centuries for anybody who interested in that topic. Bored elites love that shit to feel themselves even more elite. May be it is already time to make next step here and bring something new to the well-known thing, instead of behaving like poorly trained ANN forced to find a dog where it is not?

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CrazyRussian 4 points ago +4 / -0

It's easy - take a science and look if you could replicate experiments that prove or disprove basic theories of given science by yourself. Not necessary you have to do all that things in reality, but just evaluate a possibility of doing it by yourself, say on kitchen or in the garage.

With physics, chemistry and around it is pretty easy. Even if a science don't have absolute correct theory, final truth about our world, but existing theories give good predictions and proved by replicateable experiments, then you could be perfectly safe to accept that knowledge, even if it is incomplete, it is already useful and practical. It works.

Things get complicated when not only you can't replicate science experiment (for whatever reason, it does not matter), but other independent scientists didn't or ccouldn't replicate it, then there you should be careful. Regardless of the reason you or other scientists can't replicate experiment - "too expensive", "it depends on the researcher", "incomplete description", "you don't have to, that experts know better" and so on, it is a place for shenanigans and manipulation.

And the last and worst grade - if it is impossible to set a controlled experiment and get reproduceable results, like in "climate science", "sociology", "economy", "history" or whatever than it is 100%, absolute, total bullshit, and not a science at all.

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CrazyRussian 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yes. Suddenly.

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CrazyRussian 2 points ago +2 / -0

Did you put seals on the ends?

Effectiviness have nothing to do with seals. It has everything to do with principles of working. Blade turbines work by transferring the energy of moving gas/liquid particles to blades via collisions of particles with blades. Tesla turbine have completely different principle - it works because moving particles of gas/liquid transfer its energy via friction with disk in surface layer. And the problem of Tesla turbine is that energy transfer is maximal when gas/liquid flow slowly, without turbulence. As turbulence appear, transfer of kinetic energy become chaotic, particles do not drag disks in one direction, so gas/liquid unable to effectively transfer its kinetic energy to the disks. You have to keep gas/liquid flow slow enough to prevent turbulence. So, if you need something powerful, you need a lot of large disks blowed by slow flows from multiple laminar jets. With blade turbine you just blow on the blades with all power you have and that's fine as soon as blades could sustain pressure and rotation speed. With Tesla turbine, if gas flow come turbulent, efficiency drops significantly, and you can't increase turbine output power just adding more gas/liquid flow, you have to add more disks to turbine.

Also, disks have to be polished as mirror and be very straight, to avoid turbulence creation on the roughness. This make manufacturing Tesla turbine disks a complex task.

So, you have to build a much larger Tesla turbine to have the same efficiency as a bladed one. It is obviously ineffective.

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CrazyRussian 6 points ago +6 / -0

How exactly it proves it? Tesla turbine is perfectly up to the time, there is nothing exceptional and miraclous in it. Turbines as a class of devices are not a modern thing at all, you will find them since ancient times.

Tesla turbine looks (and sounds, meanwhile, I have one, made from HDD plates :) ) cool, but it is overall ineffective compared to conventional turbine design with blades. Unfortunately, it have to be many times bigger than conventional turbine to show similar efficiency, since you have to force a laminar flow of gas/liquid in them to be effective, but making giant high precision polished plates is in no way cheaper and easier than making turbine blades today.

Funny, that Tesla was working on a pump for gas and liquid using centrifugal forces, and no, he was not inventor of that pump type, it was invented by Sargent in 1850 IIRC, but suddenly he noticed that it could work backwards - when gas is delivered into the pump under pressure. Pumps of such design even in mass production for a long time, at least in USSR/Russa ("ЦДН" pump models). They mostly used to pump liquids that could not sustain turbulence. Also, vacuum pumps on that principle is used in labs.

Also interesting, that Tesla had prototype of conventional steam turbine, with blades and all that stuff. Pretty effective, meanwhile, because its design allowed gas to expand also on the blades, adding some thrust.

But again, there is nothing exceptional in Tesla turbine at all.

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CrazyRussian 3 points ago +3 / -0

Yet another bullshit "whisleblower" with his fucking feelings and amasements, instead of hardcore technical details, the only thing that could make any sense in all that "corporations and government study UFO they have in posession" narrative.

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CrazyRussian 8 points ago +8 / -0

You don't make your computer suspectible to anybody turning off corporation manufactured closed source piece of hardware.

There are more than enough sources of entropy in computer to get truly random numbers. Linux kernel itself has a decent random number generator based on external events that could be additionally feed with enthropy from other sources like sound card analog noise.

It is not even clear if that TPM ICes really provide better randomness than Linux kernel itself. Ironically, mathematical methods of evaluating randomness are themselves make randomness selected by that methods less random.

One of the best known source of randomness is a zener diode noise feed to sound card input. It is cheap as dirt (<$0.01) and in no way could be anyhow predicted since it is directly thermal noise of semiconductor junction. Unpredictability of nature in itself.

Those who are superparanoid could follow something like that project, f.e. - https://github.com/nicolacimmino/TRNG. It is better than any corporation made HWRNG by definition.

TL;DR: There is no any need to use TPM modules as source of randomness at all, and with high probability TPM modules are more suspectible to be backdoored than any DIY randomness source, from Linux kernel builtin random number generator to any, even less than cent analog noise source connected to soundcard.

by DrLeaks
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CrazyRussian 1 point ago +1 / -0

Really, easy to workaround thing for any person with minimal technical knowledge.

Usually, systems that could be controlled by power grid operator use power grid itself to send signals. This signals could be easily filtered out by simple low-pass filter. So no commands from operator will reach such system at all, while power will be delivered.

In case of cellular/radio control, things are even simplier.

It is fascinating to observe that whinning about screwing people who bought into EV crap, with absolutely no any attempts to tell that people how to circumvent or workaround this shit.

Either this situation is on purpose and those "independent journalists" really just do more fearmongering to their target audience, either "independent journalist" too dumb or/and too coward to tell target audience how to fight back.

Seriously, I couldn't even recall any "independent" "anti-globalist" reporting that tell people about ways of circumvention or workarounding any of that bad, awful, unjust and scary globalist shit.

Why is that? What is the problem to tell people about how to effectively fight back?

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CrazyRussian 3 points ago +3 / -0

There about to change the entire cosmological model because the one were indoctrinated with is garbage.

This is exactly how real science should work. If observation contradicts theory, then theory should be changed or thrown out completely, and new theory should be developed.

Stretch this to, say a single observation that some person have virus, but don't have associated disease. Yes, all that theory that this virus induce that illness should be thrown away.

Unfortunately, physics are not perfect too. F.e. there exist a stupid dogma about speed of light as maximum possible speed and all that special relativity crap around. Really, attempts to keep all that relativity crap of "saint" Einstein at any cost is a source of most physics problems. However, earlier or later, that crap would be inevitably thrown out. Just pity that progress was stopped for century by that jewish moron sect. Not shure about biology/medicine, however. Looks like they passed the point of no return already and have nothing to do with science now. Should be either rebuild from scratch or replaced with something scientific.

by DrLeaks
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CrazyRussian 6 points ago +6 / -0

AFAIK, from personal expirience, Communist Party 5-years plans are in no way secret or whatever. On the opposite, they usually was widely published in state press and delivered by ministries with high detalisation to the corresponding enterprises.

In USSR nobody hide that 5-year plans and they was nearly mandatory to study for every Communist Party member. As schoolchildren we also was told about them, shortly, of course, mostly about how more wheat will be grown, how many new planes, ships, trains, power stations and so on will be build and what new industries should appear.

Downloaded few pdf's from that "leak" - looks pretty similar to what I remember from childhood, with China specific, of course. "New technology will bla-bla-bla and will rise quality of life", "Will build 123 high-speed trains more" and so on. Some papers was from 2020 with projections to 2023. Papers obviously designed for wide audience, not for some closed circle.

IDK, may be there some really secret documents hides somwhere among all that 5-year plan expectations, but I'm too lazy to download and translate all of them.

Or I just didn't get something and PV without O'Keefe just helping CCP to spread their new 5-year plan among West audience in such weird clickbaiting way? OK, then they got me. :)

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CrazyRussian 4 points ago +4 / -0

Only special people are allowed to play in stock/finance/currency games. If anybody from outside of their circle finds a way to do the same without being special, then they should be exterminated.

Dude just was too arrogant and ignorant to expose his identity and shake his wealth around. Smart enough to make some money with crypto, but too stupid to ignore things that declared "conspiracy theory".

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CrazyRussian 1 point ago +1 / -0

All evidence suggests massive climate change took place in Egypt and the Sahara.

Not so massive. Massive climate change are ice ages and their endings.

Yes, Nile delta and higher was pretty green at the time, that is why people settled there. Such changes are not rare, Greenland was once green, and crocodiles lived in Volga river. Unless CO2 levels will rise to normal levels (around 1000ppm), climate will not be stable.

Except that they are a phenomenon not explained with bronze tools.

To cut limestone and sandstone you don't need even bronze. You need a rope, some glue and sand. Soak rope in glue, then cover it with sand and you will have pretty precision cutter for soft stones. This will give more than decent cut, due to self-aligning of the rope to shortest distance between ends. Then, ypou could polish cut surface with a plank, sand and some water. With enough workforce and time, you don't need magic tools to make Egypt pyramids.

I have megalitic construction in nearest town - it is a huge rampart with a kremlin wall on it. It has larger footprint than Cheops pyramid, and at least comparable to it in terms of mass that was moved by humans. And no, thousand years ago, when that construction was build people didn't have excavators, bulldozers, cranes and other modern machinery. And hardly their tools was fundamentally different from Egyptian ones. It is fascinating, what people did in ancient times, but there is no any miracle, just amount of workforce and time.

I spent a lot of time trying to find any sign of some hidden ancient knowledge in pyramids, but there are none I could detect, not even talking about using. I even build a small pyramid once, scaled copy of Cheops. :) Had some fun, but nothing more. Knives did not sharpen inside pyramid, water did not stay fresh longer, no any energy anomalies or whatever. Of course it was from regular bricks, bought for the house facing, not from limestone, but pyramid apologists insist that the thing is in shape not in the material. May be you are aware, near Moscow one rich man (Alexander Golod) even build a pyramid 44 meters in height. He was well into all that ancient knowledge stuff, and built dozens of pyramids around country. AFAIK he have contacts and projects with John DeSalvo. All in all there is nothing except entertainment happens in pyramids.

What were they trying to say? Why did they believe what they did, placing into alignment structures that heralded the stars?

All that time counting thing using space objects was very important for ancient people. They literally depended on it in the absense of a decent calendar carefully synced with Earth orbit. When to sow the wheat? When fertilize fruit trees? It was literally a "life or death" question. So they truly believed that stars influence or even rule their lives. That's why a lot of attention to the skies.

The question of human origin could be even more weird than anyone think. God's creation, aliens, monkeys, ancient civilisations and so on, It could be even a weird combination of all that stuff. :) Ancient civilization created by God on another, more pleasant planet was eventually expelled to the Earth, and in order to survive in new environment they had to borrow some DNA sequences from local primates. :) That's why we have up to 10% of our DNA from unknown origin, switch to 30 hour activity cycle when not exposed to daylight and have that story about Eden in Bible.

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CrazyRussian 1 point ago +1 / -0

Stupid question - how all that annual filling of tax papers and snitching on itself to IRS looks from privacy point of view? I think it should be much more concerning than government spying on citizens. Whole couuntry forced to snitch on themselves to the state. What's the point to rant about spying on you, when you willingly spy on yourself and send privacy information to the state? IDK, but for me sending information about how much and where you earned your money is no different from sending contents of your private diary or records of conversations with relatives and friends to the state on the regular basis.

I'm perfectly fine with othere nations traditions, and if chineese like to be like hive insects, than it is their own choice. But when such traditions and choices are contradicts each other inside one culture it is at least weird.

I hardly could imagine something more private than amount of money one earned. But looks like in US this private thing is not even accounted as private in a very weird way - US citizen will hide its earnings and salary even from friends, but willingly and without questions give out all that private info to the IRS. I can't find any example of such weirdness from any other culture, when it is tabooed to share some info with friends, but at the same time is perfectly fine to share same info with some state bureaucrat.

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CrazyRussian 13 points ago +13 / -0

OK, now do the same about Judaism. Just for objectivity. Looks like even 1% is already fatal for society. Even 0.5% will heavily fuck society with usury, hijack government institutions, culture, press and finance, and declaring any resistance as antisemitism.

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CrazyRussian 1 point ago +1 / -0

The pyramids are already 5k years old according to the concentric narrative.

And they are degrading, as any limestone building or natural structure. They just big enough to degrade for hundreds of thousands years, but they eventually will wear out from temperature gradients and wind, if humans will not cover and soak them with modern, much more rigid materials.

Egyptian pyramids are heavily overhyped. They are undoubtfully interesting phenomena and significant historical artifact, but there is nothing unusual in them. Many civilisations build pyramids for whatever reasons at some time, but they are all pretty simple things, without any sign of really advanced, obviously out-of-time knowledge. They are definitely not a launch sites of goa'uld hattak ships.

Nasca drawings are much more interesting from the point of technology, f.e., because their existence assume ability to see them from above, and that means that humans had some technology to fly at the time. It doesn't have to be super-cool alien flying disks or whatever, kind of kite, glider or hot air baloon large enough to get a human in air is more than enough. But we still don't have any artifacts that could be a proof of ancient aviation.

I have nothing against a theory of advanced ancient civilisations at all, but just theory existence is not enough at all. After any good theory, there should be undeniable, solid proofs and mandatory usefulness for humanity. But there are none. Same with ancient aliens who helped humans, theory, with all that underground civilisations and so on. They are all nice and valid theories for a long time, but even if a nice theory can't be proved for a long time, along with giving absolutely nothing practically useful for humanity, it become a fairy tale, nothing more.

Yeah, OK, there was ancients, they could cut and move large limestones an build pyramids. So what? What it gives us? How is it useful for us today? Could we use that theory for anything useful, except entertainment?

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CrazyRussian 1 point ago +1 / -0

It was on the discovery channel

Discovery channel movies are the worst popular science stuff I ever seen. And that multiple repetition of questionable and completely unimportnat statements diring a movie - I don't understand it at all. IDK, if it is kind of specific Discovery/BBC style devoted to somehow make that pop-science acceptable for the dumbest of viewers, but it is weird as fuck. No explanations using laws of nature, no formulas, no proof of sentence based on what said previously, no any decent structure of movie, even. Amount of knowledge transferred is below zero. This kind of art is more like a chewing gum for bored housewives, not something that could be named even "popular science".

A smart person, goes and checks it out.

A smart person knows chemistry, physics, and have logic. He knows properties of limestone and sandstone used in pyramids and properties of modern construction materials. He don't even need to watch stupid movies made to make dumbest audience feel like they know something cool.

It is pretty simple to find out that modern giant structures of comparable size and volume will outlast pyramides for millions of years.

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