News like this, shows what?
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Ukraine's biggest problem is that they have no any real national identity necessary to be a nation state somehow respected by the Western elites. For those who rule the West, Ukrainians will always be same millenia hated Russians who don't respect that elite Jewish families, regardless of how deep "Ukrainians" will swallow Western dick. Even if population completely brainwashed to think they are "Ukrainians, Europeans, whose only difference from Russians is that they are not Russians", all that Nulands/Blinkens will see only severely hated Russians, whose ancestors exterminated Khazarian Kaganate and not allowed Jews to do what they want in that Russian territory until Bolshevik Revolution.
Since the 1991 Western elites heavily used that Ukraine construct only as a tool against their eternal enemy. Again, they do not distinguish between Ukrainians and Russians at all. From their view that was a "smart" move to force one Russians to fight against other Russians. But at the same time they denied to really do something for the Ukrainians at all, even a little bit.
Ukraine, since 1991 always, at every single moment of time, was much poorer than Russia or Belarus. Western masters, along with pushing "not a Russia" propaganda, could easily make Ukraine a rich and prosperous region on a post-USSR territory, and make them an example of choosing their side, but eventually it was Ukrainians who seek a job in Russia and even Belarus in millions, not vice-versa. That single fact tell you everything you need to know about real attitude of the Western elites to their new puppets they successfully brainwashed to use against Russia and Belarus. Western masters just could not do anything good to Ukrainins, just because of that millenia hatred against Russians. It is absolute no-go for them, for purely ethnical, tribal reasons.
There was no any surprise that Eastern Ukraine regions turned to the Russia to get rid of that western dick sucking misery they lived in since 1991. It was inevitable, even without 2014 coup and outlawing Russian language.
So now, when Western elites plan totally failed, they do what they always did with their puppets - throw them under the bus. Arrogance and ignorance of Western elites, blinded with that tribal hatred towards Russians make a fate of their Ukrainian LARP even worse.
Just think a second - What could NATO military teach anybody about fighting with Russians? NATO idiots never ever was in a real battle with Russians since NATO foundation, not even talking about any wins. What could they teach Ukrainians about fighting with Russians? Absolutely nothing. However, at the same time, Ukrainians had full access for necessary knowledge about how Russian military fight from USSR times. But all that knowledge was destroyed during Western pushed "desovetisation" of newborn Ukraine. So, you clearly see how West destroyed all useful knowledge and pushed useless western garbage, even in such important area as military. Along with crappy western weapons designed for sales, not for battles, things gets even more sad for Ukraine LARP project.
Western elites truly hate people of Ukraine no less than Russians and Belorussians. That is why you see what you see now, and that is why the Western elites will lost that war, may be along with leading role they hope for in coming NWO shit. Inability to overcome their own tribal hatred along with arrogance and ignorance is a reason for that sad circus we see.
A thief none the less. They're trying to steal from somebody else, and not simply the imaginary border they've imagined as rightful theirs when it's been a part of Russia for centuries. But moving past all of that is the billions, multi billions in funding that has bought almost nothing else except shylocks, beggars, and thieves. It shamefully hasn't enriched the Ukraine. It has destroyed it. Thievery at its finest. We're paying for it to be destroyed. Hurray. No, wait what. We're paying for Ukraine to destroy itself. Money is being robbed somewhere right? It's the only rational explanation. Thieves. For who is the bigger question. At this point they're a trojan. All they've done is degrade themselves and potentially anybody else funding it.
Or please tell me what else any funding has bought? Because it stinks of theft.
I'll wait for them to blame Russia. Further stating they'll win if they get more funding. But somehow they're totally complicit.
Shortly, the narrative of a "Ukrainian" looks like that - "Europe is our best friend and they will give us everything to defeat moskals who do not allow us to thrive on our land". That is since 1991. Just when all MSM and education tell you that West will give everything necessary and the reason of poverty and mess is only Russians, there is nothing strange in current situation at all.
Don't you remember how few years ago majority of people in nearly all countries willingly believed in coronahoax? The same way people of Ukraine believed that they are Ukrainians and if they will hate Russians West will provide everything for them to prosper. They learned to dissociate themselves from and hate Russians, but Western elites just swindled them with prosperity. So now they demand Western part of deal.
Exactly like vaxxed idiots today begin to demand satisfaction.
It is not like they want to steal something, it is like they feel that the West owe them prosperity and defeat over the source of all their problems - Russians. They truly run as refugees to the West and demand luxury hotels and big welfare payments because they think that if they fulfilled their part of deal, then Western promise should be fulfilled without questions.
Of course, Europeans, unaware about that scam deal "Hate Russians in exchange to prosperity", and see just foreigners who wnat to stole everything around and demanding things for free.
On your point on NATO beating Russia it's been the pacman of former satellites. So it won in that regard. But aside from this they did win a previous proxy war against Russia. Finland.
However. Here, Ukraine, it's vastly different. The location, the history, the tactics.
The endgame is what? It cannot win. Not decisively. Nukes. It can fund it. Until more proxy wars erupt, splintering, globally. Funding it, hasn't bought anything except increasing escalation, more funding, a polarised globe, and greater loss of life. How much further does it escalate remains to be seen. Although concurrently and at no foreseeable end will Ukraine cause anything else. If it seeks immediate peace it has been pointless. Ukraine will have lost. As any terms won't seek Ukrainian demands.
Escalation might cause direct NATO involvement. It is currently the only way there is a winner sooner rather than a lengthy war of attrition. Where it will have left the dead for much longer. But risks all out war.
Kind of. This happened many times, but eventually always ended in Russia growth in territory.
It was Russian Empire who liberated Finns from Swedes in the first place. It was Russians who gifted soverenity and statehood to the Finns. Some tensions started only after Bolshevik Revolution, And no, Finland in no way won that war. Finland lost 10% of land to the USSR, including town of Vyborg as a result of that war, if you are not aware, but eventually, after WWII Finland was pretty friendly to the USSR, even regardless of narrative and losses. And again, after USSR fall, some tensions arised between Finland and Russia, but again they was quickly resolved up to the state when there was nearly no border and it was regular weekend entertainment for locals to ride for shopping in each other towns. Got the obvious pattern? Project it to current situation. Finns by themselves, perfectly fine with Russians. It is Western elites trying to use any chance to use Finland against Russia.
Not really. Western elites tribe is extremely conservative in their methods. If you take a look in a history of Finland, especially on how it was influenced to become hostile to Russia, you will find a lot of similarities with everything in Ukraine. Suddenly, you even find representatives of same tribe that infiltrate and began to pull the strings of their victim. Even rethorics of Finland president of the time of Soveit-Finland war was pretty similar to current rethoric of Zelenskiy. Because it is just from the same source, as simple as that.
I thought there was a war with Finland after WW2, not Finland siding with Germany in WW2, involving Russia where Finland gained territory. Funded by Europe? Apology if wrong but I thought it was later. Not the continuation war in WW2?
Yes prior Finland broke away from Sweden aided by Russia in the 1800s.
No, there was a war before WW2. Started in 1939 after clashes on the USSR-Finland border and ended in 1940 with Findland loss of land critical for USSR defence, especially around Leningrad(S.Petersburg).
After WW2 Finland was defeated along with Axis, and left for themself. Soon, Finland become one of the closest trade partner with USSR among capitalist countries.