I saw a clip of the strike the night it happened. It looked like a nuke at first glance, but not conclusive. I didn't bother researching it because it turns out no one really cares about analyses such as these. (Much easier to make stuff up or just ignore it, you see.) I was finally triggered (haha) to take another look by this story:
Exclusive: IAEA Said BIG Tactical Nuke Used by Russia Near Kherson, US Ordered It Covered Up (Confirmed) (The Intel Drop 5/5/2023)
Why precisely did the US order it covered up? That's what I wanted to know. I didn't find out in the article because it has no text. Knowing their (purported) calculus could be important and it's still an open question.
But let me note here that many, many dozens of nuclear devices have been used in various hostilities over the decades. That includes in the current conflict, like this 2014 blast at a depot in Czechia holding munitions for (you guessed it) Ukraine:
A Look Back At The Deadly 2014 Czech Depot Blast That Prague Is Now Blaming On Russian Agents (RFE/RL 4/18/2021)
Look at the size of the crater, and how almost all of a reinforced concrete bunker was obliterated by a blast centered outside the structure. Oh yeah, and the dude in the full hazmat suit.
The night of the Pavlohrad strike, there was--interestingly enough--a rumor on 4chan reposted on Reddit that Kiev got nuked. Maybe it did too, but I have no info:
Kyiv nuked according to 4chan, thoughts? (5/1/2023)
First, was there anything in Pavlohrad worth nuking? Maybe. Estimates in the recent "leaks" were that Ukraine was going to run out of air defense missiles later this month. This strike may have moved that up to about... now. The third-hand rumor you can read in this tweet claims two divisions (up to 16 installations) of S-300P, along with supply vehicles and reloads, were destroyed. One would guess these were staged for whatever spring Kherson "counter-offensive" Ukraine/NATO has in mind. Maybe it's off the table now.
On to the meat of the analysis and the article I stumbled across today:
Incredible Destruction Seen At Ukrainian Rocket Storage Site That Detonated After Russian Strike (Updated) (The Drive 5/4/2023)
About 2/3 of the way down you'll find this tweet with b/w security cam footage of the event. What you'll see is this: First, far in the distance, a conventional cruise missile strike. Then at 0:25, there are two more or less simultaneous detonations. The closer one is another conventional warhead, and you can't even see the shadow of the column of dust and smoke for a few seconds because the camera sensor had it's soul blown out by the glare of the nuke behind it.
There are a few things to notice about the nuke blast. It's obviously different than the other two, dwarfing them. The glare is huge, and persists for quite a while. The shockwave is clear and titanic. Chunks of flaming missile propellant and explosives are scattered very, very far. Also note that it's "all in one go", not the slow "cooking off" process of an ammo depot fire.
Now to orient yourself, I refer you to the last couple of sat pics in the article. The security cam was off to the "left". You can see the pinprick of damage by the conventional warhead on the left, and the devastation on the upper right. They knew just what bunker to hit and they annihilated it. The blast also ravaged all the nearby bunkers. Remember these are reinforced concrete behind earthen berms.
Finally, the first half of the article includes closer photos of the bunker. More precisely, where the bunker used to be. Note that the extreme heat of the nuke and wide scattering of flaming debris burnt all the greenery for hundreds of meters around the site.
So did the Ukraine War go nuclear, yes or no? You probably didn't expect it, but it's really a philosophical question, isn't i? As I mentioned, nukes have been used in anger numerous times.How do they keep it secret? Easy: they don't tell you about it. Well, you'll say, people could find out for themselves. I know. I just did. But virtually no one else does. That's my point. Not hard to keep a secret when no one is looking for it.
Using inductive logic, we can do some further thinking:
First, let's dispense with all the talk of a "fake war". What do you need real nukes for in a fake war? People that buy into this seem moronic to me. I invite any morons to declare themselves.
Second, there's so much talk about NATO conducting a "nuclear false flag". Well, they could have just called this one out for what it was, right? But they didn't, and there's something to be learned from that. (Personally, I think "They" do not have control of any nukes any longer.)
Third, Russia is "in it to win it", and they are going to do what they feel is necessary and appropriate to accomplish that. So many people say, "Russia issues all these warnings, but the pussies never do anything about it!" Well, now we've all seen them do something supposedly "unthinkable", they just didn't bother announcing it. So again, all the people that include "russkies are pussies!" as part of what they call thinking seem like total ignoramuses to me.
If you read this far, thanks, and I hope you got something out of it. Also, congratulations on having an attention span on the far-right of the bell curve.
People still live and work in lower Manhattan, don't they?
Depends on the type of nuke used.
interesting post. thanks for taking the time.
there's probably some seismic data from different recording stations that, collated, would confirm or disprove a nuke detonation.
As you have to know, after Chernobyl, many in Belorus, Ukraine and Western Russia have Geiger counters. They was massively produced after disaster and are not rare things here. Even now ebay/amazon filled with Russian SBM-20 Geiger tubes and devices build around them.
So, if nuke blast was the thing in Pavlograd, then both pro-Ukrainian and pro-Russian communities of that town would have been flooded respective telegram channels with videos of their Geiger counters showing leveled up radiation in the town, blaming either Russians who drop a nuke either Ukrainians who hide a nuke in storage respectively. There are nuclear weapons with low radiation fallout, but it still present and perfectly detectable.
So, despite the theory is interesting, there are no any chance that this could pass without huge flood of messages about radiation levels over social media. There are too many radiation counters and dosimeters on hands here, they are not some rare lab or military equipment, they are home appliances to check the berries and vegetables bought from farmers.
I had to look it up, these "bunker busters" were big on the news when they started using the nuclear ones.
The newer ones do use a nuclear device, so what OP is talking about makes sense.
Not much radiation is going to be outside of the area because the nuclear target is detonated after the initial explosion buries it into the ground. Not to mention its a rather small explosive, meant to pulverize structures below it.
https://science.howstuffworks.com/bunker-buster.htm
Sounds like much what OP was describing.
It does go on to say.
20+ years later, and something tells me they have proably solved alot of the problems.
Lots of speculation about Geiger counters. Can you link to anyone that actually checked?
For anyone that wishes to inform themselves beyond the low-yield reasoning of "If it was real I would have already known about it!", then you may be interested in this article:
Just How Radioactive Are Low-Yield Nuclear Weapons? (The Drive 12/19/2022)
I would add that for such people that live in a reality of "If it was real I would have already known about it!", how very comforting it must be. Regrettably, it comes at the cost of learning of learning anything new.
F.e. aforementioned SBM-20. Worldwide perfectly known well-tested and long lasting Geiger tube. Anything based on that tube will work fine.
You could easily check your Geiger counter with any radioactive sample, from smoke detectors to thoriated welding tungsten sticks. Geiger tube based counter is a simple device, it is either works, either not. There can't be a situation if it registers background radiation level, but does not detect radioactive substances. Geiger counters easlily could be checked against background radiation level. If it gives you pulses you could just count them and using sensitivity value of used Geiger tube (f.e. from here https://www.gstube.com/catalog/9/) validate your counter. If it gives any pulses for flying through gamma-photons for background radiation, it means it works and it will shurely give you more pulses if there will be more radiation around.
You just can't miss the fact that radiation level become higher than usual background level after certain event. It doesn't have to be deadly or even harmful at all, just if you always had 15uR/h (0.15uSv/h) and suddenly it become 25(0.25) this will inevitably attract attention, and today you will hear a constant scream in social media.
Did you miss a link? https://www.gstube.com/catalog/9/ Or https://sites.google.com/site/diygeigercounter/technical/gm-tubes-supported
Basically, SBM-20, J305, J304 and M4011 are affordable tubes most Geiger counters available for regular person are build on.
Find any Geiger counter based on that tubes and that's it.
Note: Those things that plug into smartphone 3.5mm jack have very low sensitivity, they based on p-i-n diode and scintillator which is too small to have a decent sensitivity. They works somehow, but resolution is too low, in the best case they will show you something when radiation level change significantly, but they barely could detect thoriated tungsten welding electrode.
I'll save this in case I ever have the question, "Do Geiger counters exist?" Which was not what I asked, but I'll take what you posted as declaration of an inability to comprehend.
Thanks for playing!
I don't understand what did you expected from me.
Worldwide known corporations like Sony or Philips do not manufacture Geiger counters, There are can't be advise like "buy Dell XPS series if you need notebook". I don't even know if Geiger counters are allowed for import in your country. There are tons of noname devices at online marketplaces like Amazon, Ebay, Aliexpress, but they have no distinct brand or name. Also there could be local manufacturers in your area I have no idea about. What will be the use if I mention Russian brands like Radex or MKC, if you have no way to buy them? But it does not matter which one you buy, just find out what Geiger tube they use, because Geiger counter sensitivity and quality depends on Geiger tube used, not on who made it and what brand label is attached to it.
It is like asking "what is best WiFi USB dongle model to buy?". It does not matter what brand or model, the chip is matters, not who solder it to PCB and put in case. My answer will be something like "Any with Atheros chipset", not exact model. Moreover, same brand same model dongles could have different chipsets inside. So naming exact brand/model have no any sense.
Fascinating, really, how people choosing what to buy depending on brand name, and not on real properties and whats inside.
Fascinating, really, how people choosing what to buy depending on brand name, and not on real properties and whats inside.
You’ve just described the wet dream of every marketing team on the planet. People care about the name and not the contents, and while most of us with a brain in our head mock them for this, there’s far too many of them with disposable income that do this compared to informed shoppers. They don’t care if it’s made by slave labour, child labour or make from depleted uranium and will give “her” testicular cancer, it has popular brand name on it so I need it to make my friends and people I’ll never meet jealous!
It’s a sickness, this society….
First accurate thing you've said. I didn't read further.
That will give only local hotspots, not rising of background everywhere. And it will not be hard at all to locate that radioactive shit.
Nuclear blast or blast of something radioactive will spread radioactive pollution evenly over some large territory and you will get higher radioactivity levels everywhere, not at some spots.
No doubts MSM could just spread any fictional numbers they want and 90% of population would easily believe it without any questions and attempts to find independent confirmations. And whose who will try to show reality will be censored or "debunked" as we already saw during coronahoax. We saw it numerous times in different areas, like health care, climate hoax, crime distribution, financial data, and so on. Radiation levels are no different at all.
I don't remember exact date of some WEF gathering where a method of "creating new reality with MSM and social media" was discussed, but that's what they doing constantly.
They didn't create some "nuclear event" just because it is not necessary for them yet.
And the main cause of their success is an enormous lack of curiosity in modern population. That sheeple even don't want to know how their own car or computer they use every day works, what to tell about having some geiger counters just for curiosity or basic knowledge of chemistry or biology. Sheeple convinced that they don't need and don't want to have that knowledge about world around and that gives elites enormous power over them.
Interesting, how many people on that forum have Geiger counter or dosimeter of any kind at home? Or any other devices that show how the real world is really going around. Just for curiosity and a little safety. Am I the only one who have some? I'm afraid that some here even don't have weather stations or even thermometer outside, depending on stupid app in their smartphones that just shows whar corporation server tell them. And it is very disappointing.
I'm glad to hear that from you. While curiosity exists among us, nothing is lost yet.
I think it is the main problem of modern society. I even can't figure out when that shit started. When that narrative about "you don't need to know how things work to use them" become a powerful mainstream.
As I noted in the writeup, the Russians used nukes to achieve specific battlefield objectives, yet they also specifically declined to "escalate" by making public announcements of that. We can also see that their public "threats" are meant to get the Western citizenry to pressure their masters to back down. Fruitlessly, thus far.
Also noted in the writeup is that this latest incident can be interpreted as more evidence that "They" no longer have control of any nukes. People like to wave their hands around on this issue, but when you get down to brass tacks evidence is thin on the ground.
Just off the top and in broad terms, I would argue that Biden(tm) does not have control of the nuclear football. In nuclear France, Rothschild butt-boy Macron--of all people--seems to be turning. Israel seems to be the most likely source of atomic munitions for "Them", but I think the Israelis now calculate that there now is a point where Iran can and would put an end to Israel with conventional missiles alone.
Also worthy of note is that unstoppable nuclear-tipped Kinzhals are or soon will be in Belarus, minutes from the European capitals. European NATO combat potential is a joke. US combat potential has to get across oceans that would be swarming with hypersonic anti-ship missiles.
What I'm saying is that when you start to put meat on the bones, it really begins to take on a different shape than what most people seem to have in mind.
Well, I started with the little clues we all saw, like Biden's fake Oval Office and the rumor he was turned away from the Pentagram. If he wasn't let into the real WH or Pentagon, what were the chances he had the football?
Then Real Raw News came along and started talking about this stuff much more explicitly from inside sources. As outlandish as their claims are, I keep trying to punch holes in them and failing to.
According to them, Trump invoked the Insurrection Act and turned the football over the General David Berger. Starting this year, General Eric M. Smith took over from Berger. RRN did not make specific mention, but he would now have it.
It all sound crazy, but you turn it around and ask yourself: has Biden ever been pictured with the military attache with the football? With all this incessant talk of nuclear WW3, has anyone even mentioned the subject, even to further frighten the public? Not to my knowledge. That seems quite strange, yet it is consistent with the "wild stories".
Well, it's up to you, but everyone has to make a choice about their basic approach to the world, which will then determine how they act in it. There are various levels:
Few indeed even recognize the "boss" level exists, let alone try to operate in it. If anything is going to be fixed, it first has to be understood. That's unless you get really lucky, and I don't see too much of that floating around these days.
It's a managed pre-planned war, which means its fakery isn't at all fake on the ground. The exact level of control and how many people are in on it is irrelevant since the outcome have been per-decided. It could be part of bigger managed pre-planned wars where more nukes are also used. Cannon fodder (i.e. soldiers) dying here and there is actually quite preferable to the jewish parasites since all killed are Christians/White.
Was Saddam a complete puppet? Nop.
Was the 1990 gulf war planned long ahead of time? Yes, I know that as a matter of fact.
BTW any thoughts on the Beirut port blast in 2020?
Port Said was another nuke, unquestionably. There's quite a bit more to the complete story and when I tried to get it out through a few outlets, it ended with a Blackhawk orbiting my house at around 500'. Maybe just coincidence, though, huh?
While that story is interesting in a very "Tom Clancy-esque" way, what's actually much more informative is how virtually everyone is convinced it was a big pile of old fertilizer. It's like everyone thinking a big pile of little paper tubes for firecrackers leveled a concrete warehouse.
Agreed, it's mind boggling how quickly everyone bought into how it was just fertilizer!
BTW, what was surprising to me also is that within an hour of the explosion I heard that many people in Lebanon got the same Whatsapp voice message of a supposed wife of someone working in the port who said it's just fertilizer and not an israeli attack. This message was circulated "organically" and people received it from someone they know. But I was stunned how quickly it circulated! I think these types of agencies have a lot of small time agents who know a lot of people who when the time comes can just quickly send the same message out to make something appear as "viral" and "organic" while in fact it's just propaganda.
People on the ground near the port all heard fighter jets and thought it was an israeli attack but all the media somehow scrubbed the fact that israeli jets where flying.
Politics is a WWE format.
If there are any tactical nukes, they will only be deployed on Las Vegas, Detroit or Portland, never Ukraine.
Even for Ukraine they'll probably just use it to nuke villages that aren't worth fucking over.
Chances are the USA will just embargo Ukraine and see what happens afterwards. It happened with Japan in WW2, it happened with Libya, it happened with Cambodia before the Khmer Rouge. I'll let you guess what happens next.
Sorry, forgot to include this link for scaling, but the crater is reported to be 60m by 10m deep:
After A Missile Strike By The Russian Armed Forces, A Crater With A Diameter Of 60 Meters Remained In Pavlograd (Eastern Herald 5/6/2023)
The Russians, like the US and Israel and maybe China, have 'dial-a-size' tactic nukes. These can be adjusted for force and some can be set to minimal residual radioactivity after the explosion. One producing a 60 m crater is perfectly possible.
Small. Conventional weapons small.
There are two very different sizes, the larger one is 60m. Can you link us to convention cruise missile crater 60m across?
Here is a link to 1971.
That's a cruise missile crater? Is reading comprehension still a thing where you're from?
I don't give a fuck what ordinance you think caused this. The only reason Russia would have to use a nuke that small would be to call a bluff. At which point, none of this is relevant. Because, bluff called.
Why did you bother reading the post? Let me rephrase: what reason did you just make up for why you bothered reading the post?
To try and glean any substance from it. And why did I reply?
To tell you that this doesn't look like a nuclear strike.
In the off chance that it was. See my last reply.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qVlNiAYshQ&t=139s
So you really didn't get that was a rhetorical question? Or this is? Or this?
Sure seems like you do! But, yes, I know you're one of those "last worders", aren't you? You won't let me down now, will you?
Your posted question answers itself as you walk through the timeline. Russia bombed an old fuel depot, hence the fires before the large rocket fuel explosion. The fires prior to the explosion is the simplest giveaway. If you’re going to nuke an area, you don’t fire cruise missiles at it first, you just nuke the area.
The security cam caught the explosion, not nearly powerful enough to be a ‘Nuke’ and no radioactive fallout at the site. The aftermath photo from the air indicates the same with a large non-uniform explosion.
A nuclear strike is a specific weapon and should be easy to identify as it is tied to radioactivity. A large explosion will induce a shockwave similar to what’s seen in the footage and has been documented many times prior in instances unrelated to this war.
Finally, why would Russia feel the desire to use nukes at this point in the war when they are grinding down Ukraine on all fronts? Ukraine needs to beg the world for weapons and resources in order to stand any chance against Russia. This war of attrition will be won by Russia unless there is deep intervention by outside parties. Ukraine is losing equipment and people at much higher rates than Russia. There is no reason for Russia to use nukes at this time, and based on the above, they haven’t used them.
The West and Israel will become maniacal long before the Russians with respect to the Ukraine war, because without their intervention, Ukraine would have already lost.
I can't believe you thought I'd read that, but there we have it.
My tired ass read that as “IKEA” instead of “IAEA” lol.
I was so confused for a second.
Why is IKEA weighing in on this??!
No.
Every explosion of sufficient pressure causes a shockwave. They tend to happen over ammo dumps.
Federal honeypot. Who gives a shit.
See.
Twice, in fact. In 1945.
So where’s your actual evidence?
It’s even less hard when you’re not actually keeping one.
Are you actually under the impression that anyone takes any value from your "analysis"? What really is your motivation? Does that even apply or is it really just some thoughtless compulsion?
Personally, I think it's just compulsion, and you're actually only interacting with your own ego. Do these comments help with your introspection? I sincerely doubt it, and they're not supposed to.
Irony.
Posting truth. Where are your fucking sources.
Irony.
Feel free to project somewhere else.
Neat. Thanks for admitting that no nukes were used in the Russo-Ukrainian, nor have any nukes been used in war since WWII. Things aren’t true simply because they’re posted on cuckchan. Educate yourself on how explosions operate.
lol
You know, I actually considered ridiculing people who thought nukes are hoax, as I did near the bottom of my post to the "fake war" proponents. I declined specifically because I thought it was beneath recognition.
Silly me!
I'm pretty certain I neither require nor requested your help. But thanks for making clear your lack of an offer, which is not the type of quality I look for in friends.
And no, not ignorant. Back when it first made the rounds years ago, it took about 2 minutes to see it was another "flat earth" level trap for retards.
Did an AI write this? The grammar is in disarray, and the logical train of thought. has completely derailed. This type of output threatens no one's job.
I don't know. I am not convinced.
My thought is that even without consistent readings overtime being published, the amount of people suggesting these could have been nuclear strikes suggest that some groups would be taking the readings and if they were out of whack likely be right on top of producing a fear level to correspond with it.
This is exactly the tooling the west needs to bring things to the next level. There is the possibility it would all be held under wraps for fear of causing a panic.
This does not really wash as they seem to thrive on creating high level panic of any degree then can achieve.
From what I understand for example, Kiev is fine no reports of anything extraordinary that I have seen lately.
Well, you have to look back to the beginning of the conflict in February 2022. Remember all the months of incessant war mongering by the West? Russia was continuously on the verge of invasion, invasion chatter picked up by intel, imminent invasion, the orders have already been issued, invasion, invasion, INVASION! Even Zelensky told them there was not going to be a war and to calm the fuck down. Russia even trolled the West on twitter with a Vincent Vega meme.
Then Russia invaded. Even more to the point,no one in the West said, "Oh, see, we were right after all."
The point is that what the West was doing was based on war mongering and fear mongering, not on actual war and the force of arms. They were entirely unprepared for that. Ukraine's military, along with their military-industrial complex has been mostly destroyed. Most of Europe has been bled dry of munitions.
So why not announce what they've been saying Russia was going to do for months now, that they're using nukes? All their fear-mongering would prove true and people would freak out.
Because again, the fear-mongering was the only point. Whatever escalation they might actualize, and that the people would go along with, would be met by Russia just like everything else the West has thrown at them.
The inflection point is: how bad can you get your ass kicked and still claim victory without everyone laughing at you?
The thing is, both sides were yanking our chain when that was being setup.
For example, how many times do we have on record the Russians reporting the massive buildup of the Ukranian forces around donbass? Evidence shows over 100k were deployed around Maripol, along with a plethora of fighting machines and equipment. According to the information available, no mentions I can find.
So, at the start there were not bled dry, they were freshly supplied and trained over the past 8 years. Fast forward 1year and yes they are now destroyed and bled dry.
I think it is like a controlled demolition of a large area. One piece at a time. These criminals in charge working to subvert systems and people.
But I have been wrong before.
What I'm tracking, in the wider view of a WW3 that everyone likes to prognosticate on so breezily, it that Russia alone has already gone a very long way towards "demilitarizing" NATO through reduction of their combat potential. There are many similar articles, but here's one angle on the bigger picture:
Senior Officer Says British Army Has Been So Degraded by Cuts UK Is No Longer Capable of Fighting A War on Its Own (Fars News 3/12/2023)
On the one hand, one may say this is simply a tactic to get more money in to the British MIC. Well, it is undoubtedly such a tactic, but anyone who says that it's simply that declares themselves the shallowest of analysts.
First, just because they want more money does not mean the appraisal of the British military is in any way incorrect. And he's not just saying "improvements can be made", he's saying his institution and all his colleagues and friends are punk-ass bitches impotent and ncapable of getting the job done. Far stronger rhetoric than is needed.
Second, the incessantly fear-mongering West lowers the "cone of silence" over such reports. As you can see, we've got to hear about it from Iran. Why? Because in their thorough inversion, They only monger phantom menaces. Real ones that threaten Their power are carefully edited out of existence.
Third, he really gives away the game with the comment, "we have been resting on the assumption that we would not be required to fight at scale." So again, we see that for decades, the real battle plan of the Neo-Imperialists was no "battle" plan at all. Conquest was to be done in the 5th Generation-style: color revolutions, terrorism, subversion, election rigging, etc, etc. They never prepared for a clash of arms. Russia, over the last couple of decades, really did, and we see the difference manifesting now.
You know me, I would be the first to agree that we have seen a significant reduction in western munition stockpiles, everything from bullets to tanks, even aircraft.
Initially this seemed natural and par for the course, but it has extended into the absurd, to the point where each and everything we send would be better off heading to the scrap yard right off.
If the intent was to 'rebuild' arsenals then I think we fell short of that goal, it is clear all the things we sent are old hat and basically completely ineffective.
I think the people that write that stuff are pushing for a new level.
I liken this to the suggestion that they don't want the plebs to work with it, and all the so called players involved are already aware.
And of course you are right on the mark for the 5th generation stuff the criminals are projecting.
When it comes to the situation in Ukraine my take is that the situation is real in that there is a long history of work to subvert and control the entire region.
However no significant gains were had by the nato trained forces since the battles begun. (I exclude Kherson and Kharkov regions, the Russians left)
The rationale I have used to date is that Russia has been biding its time carefully invoking the battle slowly, concerned that a full deployment would trigger a global response.
Silly and stupid, the SMO elicited a global response from all relevant players, so might as well get er' done, But that has still not happened and Russia continues to play the slow game, the biggest thing that bugs me is that Donetsk and Sumy regions continue to be blasted by the so called enemies daily. When will this become something worth dealing with?
It is clear the west never prepared for this conflict, unless there is some super secret doomsday weapon they plan to use.
Everything in the western military sphere is weak and lacking, 0 innovation has occurred worth speaking of and that is why they don't share anything.
Could be there has been nothing new since 1972.
They just never needed anything new to shoot farmers and merchants.
I always try to imagine what these American drones flying overhead are like to the residents of the regions where they operate (aside from the terror and trauma). It would be like, "That drone overhead is worth way more than everything in this entire village put together, and each missile it fires costs more than I could pay for a lifetime."
It would be as surreal as if the Chinese invaded the US in triangular flying saucers, then went tooling up and down the streets in their hovercraft shooting "terrorists" with their disruptors.
Moving in time with no comprehension for impacts. Like an petulant child pissing all over everything around it.
Without an understanding of being numb and ignorant to the pressure created.
The result of the pressure on these countries around the world has been tremendous. The tone and messaging, signals have been hardened to a point far beyond anything in the past decades gone by, nobody cares.
It just continues daily with the onslaught of perpetual mayhem and criminal activity at the highest levels.
People that just want to live get to idle by and work on survival.
I doubt it. Nice theory. But we'd hear no end of condemnation if there was that strike. Or even worse.
As far as bullshit like running out of munition. No. The amount of countries buying billions worth for the Ukraine has reached epic proportions.
Ukraine are lying again. Claims patriot's shot down hypersonics. After this strike, and others. It is quite absurd. It is the latest nonsense from Ukraine. How does a missile at much less speed hit a much faster missile. By detonating in the flight path. Perhaps. But how come they've beaten that defense already and similar.
Look here. This topic.
So tired of Ukrainian lies. The patriot missile system stopped a hypersonic. Tediously stupid. If it had a lucky hit. It's not worth the rest of that probability.
As soon as there's this news. Not covered. Ukraine resorts to the bullshit.
Or why not test that lie. 20-50 hypersonics at Kiev?
Yes. The damage in the rest of the radius isn't. There are lower yield tactical nukes. No.
Although I still don't know why they aren't deployed. It is becoming obvious they'd achieve easier victory, ending this conflict. Saving lives. Those lines have been crossed. But any risk of wider conflict possibly still outweighs their justification.
It was a weapons factory, and fuel depots. It also supposedly hosted anti aircraft?
Until Nukes are none other conspiracy. This scary word that means nothing else. They prevent wars from decisively ending.
Fucking bullshit lies. Who believes this shit?