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posted ago by LightBringerFlex ago by LightBringerFlex +80 / -0

Shut down your business.

Get a vaccine or get fired.

Prices doubled.

We need to come up with an alternative economic system without Gov involvement.

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DR534 16 points ago +16 / -0

I'd get 1 year's+ worth of food and all the basic supplies you need with a means to defend it all, then silver with what's left over.

Too many have like 20k in silver but one week's worth of food in their house. Often in the worst part of a collapse, people are looking for food/supplies/ammo/medical at first and metals aren't traded until stability starts to form again.

Every month now I try and get $50-$100 in canned meats, you want more than just rice and beans. SPAM fries well and lasts a long time, better than its reputation and higher quality ham/pork than hotdogs for example. $35-$38 per 12-pack. Corned beef, corned beef hash, canned tamales, chicken breast, roast beef and gravy, pineapple, etc.. Then get a $30 camp stove with some propane or butane canisters. Then get boxes of instant rice to be able to heat it up on the stove in seconds and then mix some of your canned meats over. Hot chocolate and coffee for morale.

I'd also stock up on BIC lighters and Sawyer portable water filters (for use and trade).

Form local relationships around you where you can trade, have some chickens if possible, get plenty of various seeds, I grow a lot of spinach and medicinal herbs like oregano that's antiviral/antibacterial.

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BlackDay2020 3 points ago +3 / -0

If you want to store food but don't have so much money to do the above, do this third world version:

  1. Grains (wheat is among the most nutrient dense). Use boric acid to kill insects. It's safe to eat if you wash thoroughly before you eat.
  2. Milk powder (make sure it is full cream - you need those fats)

All of the above stuff can last 20+ years with correct storage (don't believe me? Read these (sources: https://theprovidentprepper.org/food-storage-how-to-store-wheat-so-it-is-still-delicious-31-years-later/ https://www.thespruceeats.com/does-powdered-milk-go-bad-1388298#:~:text=Most%20manufacturers%20recommend%20using%20powdered,Some http://npic.orst.edu/factsheets/archive/borictech.html#env)

  1. Soil has minerals and some other nutrients, but you need to be careful about contaminants like heavy metals and parasites. Or if you can afford it, multivitamins (freeze them - the colder the better).
  2. Water filter
  3. For fiber, greens, nuts etc. just grab them off trees (A yard full of food will attract government attention). You can ferment or sprout your food (including grains) to increase micronutrient density and make it easy to digest (those leaves are otherwise going right through).
  4. Dried animal dung is quite useful and portable (for fire etc.). You can learn many such tricks from the third world (when your survival depends on it, its funny how quickly you lose social conditioning of what is clean or dirty).
  5. Hunt animals which come your way. You will appreciate why the Chinese eat anything that moves once you live through a Communist revolution.

Learn from squirrels: https://www.livescience.com/64104-how-do-squirrels-find-buried-nuts.html and bury your food in multiple safe spots (with proper water proofing of course) because your guns aren't going to protect it from government seizures (this is what happened in Bolshevik revolution). Guns are good for guerilla warfare etc. but no good if armed government agents come to search your house.

If you can't afford piles of silver, remember food and water too can be traded for medicines etc.

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IGOexiled 1 point ago +1 / -0

Why silver over gold? Your $20k silver example weighs 25kg (56lbs). The same value of gold is less than 1lb.

If two men had to hike over a mountain to barter for a car...

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infinite-ohm 10 points ago +10 / -0

Yes, absolutely it's totally transparent. How else would they get the public to accept the great reset? That was clear as soon as I saw "you'll own nothing and rent everything".

Gentlemen, the communists are here, they've infiltrated Washington DC and funnily enough that most capitalist of capitalist inventions, the banks themselves.

This is why all the trillions and all the printing. Just look at the M1 money supply and what it did in the last two years and how $1 today is worth $0.25 or less of $1 just from two years ago.

They're already hinting at the next horrors. Power outages, gas shortages, gasoline shortages, freezing winters, smallpox, whatever. etc.

Everywhere you look there's propaganda repeated over and over and over. The big lie. Silence it. Fight it with the truth, and spread it far and wide. Pull the curtains open and expose man behind it who told you not to pay attention to him.

Let them feel your hate. Let them feel your anger. Let them not be able to hide from it.

This is why the ports are jammed, while ships from china wait at a port we sold to the mother fucking communist chinese, and so the shelves are empty. They've bought out our politicians and fucked us over.

These fuckers must be routed out and removed before this is done. Every. Last. One.

There's a saying among the rich, keep them starving and poor and they'll worry about their next meal instead of revolting. Fuck that, revolt. Revolt now. Revolt yesterday, revolt tomorrow. They want to feed us insects, we will eat the rich instead. Figuratively. Literally, or feed them to madame la guillotine, I don't care which.

Tie them up in the courts. Protest in the streets. Fight them in your offices with paperwork, fight them in your churches with sermons, fight them in your hospitals without masks, in your schools, in your restaurants, anywhere and everywhere. Sabotage their plans. Don't let them sleep. Take them out any way and every way.

It's not enough for the truckies to win a concession from being vaccinated. It's not enough for a few people here and there to get a pass. EVERYONE MUST BE FREE of these parasites permanently.

Resist, refuse, fight back, in any and every way possible, by any and every means. Our friends at the CIA gave us plenty of ways to do that. Here's some: https://web.archive.org/web/20130305235007/https://www.cia.gov/news-information/featured-story-archive/2012-featured-story-archive/CleanedUOSSSimpleSabotage_sm.pdf

Refuse to feed them information and money. Vote with your dollars. Don't feed the MANGA companies. Don't feed the machine in any way that you can avoid.

Buy silver and gold if you can afford it. Buy whatever supplies you can't. Make friends and alliances with everyone you can. Help them when you can.

Remember, hyperinflation is coming, it's almost here. Who knows how much a dollar will be worth in another year or two. Stock up on food, medicine, medical supplies, first aid kids, all weather clothing, blankets, water filters, tents, tools, parts, solar panels, whatever you can, while you can. Get books too. Physical. On paper. When the power goes out your fucking iphone, kobo or kindle is going to less useful than a doorstop.

Bitcorn is great if you have it, but is useless when the power and internet go out. Remember all the solar flare scares and the "OMG the russian haxors are in our power grids"? that means they're thinking of shutting those things down. Have alternate plans.

This is the problem, if you don't know what's coming exactly, all you can do is prepare for everything possible, and hope for the best. But in an hyper-inflationary market your money will be worth nothing tomorrow. Not telling you to go in debt, but use whatever of it you can spare on hard, long lasting goods today. Worst case you'll have a lot canned food dinners to eat, and lots of useful supplies and tools. No biggie.

If you're in a blue city like NYC or LA, get the fuck out if you're able to.

Getting an RV and driving away might be good, but what happens when it breaks down and you can't get parts, or oil, or gas, or coolant, or tires, or a timing belt, or replacement batteries? And after a year, gasoline becomes worthless. Without infrastructure, there's no driving. Sorry.

Don't let them divide and conquer you. Doesn't matter if your neighbors and friends are on the blue or red team, what their religion is whatever else they want to drive us over, or if they self identify as trees, or furries, or sheeple.

Serve your community. Serve your family. Help whomever you can. Winter is coming, and it's going to be like no other we have faced. What's being done in australia will come here soon enough if we let it. Don't.

Be kind to everyone, but be firm on insisting on your rights. Never give those up. If you do, only slavery awaits you.

Remember, both parties are two sides of the same coin in the pocket of the banks. Those are the fuckers that want all of us depopulated - the banks, the money power. They're the ones who want the great reset. They're the ones who want to murder us. They're the ones who want to buy our homes and land so we rent everything. They distract us with bullshit nonsense circuses. Don't fall for it. They divide us into teams and set us against each other. Don't fall for it.

They're the ones who push stupid bullshit articles about how it's consumer's fault that we have disposable goods when they're the ones who loved planned obsolescence and profited while we wanted products we can repair and that last for a lifetime? But it's our fault that the seas are filled with plastic junk we didn't want or ask for when the companies they own produced products that break and wind up in landfills and waterways?

Did you see that article about how we should rent jeans - yes, rent pants? I did.

Did you see the one about how it's a bad idea to flip houses because it's a lot of work? Or how renting is better than owning? Or about owning less things and living in smaller places is best? Or the billions of bullshit articles about how eating veggies and insects is the way?

Or how we shouldn't own cars and self-driving cars are the future? Why do you think they want that? So they can control us, where we go and know where we go and deny us where we want to go. Yes, idiot, your fucking tesla is spying on you. Constantly. It's worse than facebook. Elon is not your savior, he's one of them.

Who the fuck do you think is pushing all those agendas?

No, no, your local bank manager is not evil, he's just a useless idiot tool fool that got vaxed himself and his wife and kids and mistress, and they'll all die too from HIV or cancer or mycarditis or other as of yet unknown covid vax side effects. He doesn't know shit. The ones that own the central banks. Those fuckers. The Elons, and Gates. They own it all because governments have allowed them to make money out of nothing and once they reach critical mass to keep making more and more while we make less and less.

Why do you think the FDA is trying hard to ban ivermectin and NAC and anything that actually might be helpful. Maybe it's because ivermectin might kill the parasites in the murdervax. Maybe NAC will help you detox the graphene oxide that will murder you. Who knows. I don't. I'm guessing. But I can read between the lines. So can you. Or at least learn to.

Remember what Jefferson warned us about. It's too late to accept his advice, as we've allowed the central banks to own us. But it's not too late to undo the creature from Jekyll Island. If you don't know what I'm talking about, educate yourself. We're nearly homeless and destitute on the very continent our forefathers fought England hard to gain because of Jekyll Island.

It's possible that jailing fauxi might work to release the floodgates of truth. It's possible that Bidet's overreach will get overturned in court and that will unleash the flood of truth. Either way. We might win easy if either of these things happen, but don't count on it.

We need more places like Florida and Texas.

The key is that it gets out that these are murdervaxes and that people are dying from them left and right. Once that happens, the powderkeg will be lit, unless that happens, they'll keep winning and our kids and our fellow humans' kids will keep dying because of these monsters.

It may happen on its own. They might not be able to keep the Newsom vax reaction hidden for too long. It may flip California. Who knows. We'll see. Doubt it. Oh too bad, look he's back: https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-11-09/newsom-sudden-pause-on-public-events-sparks-social-media-speculation - maybe he got disappeared like they do in china to billionaires there. Maybe he was visiting the new Epstein Island, new manager: Billy Bloody Gates. Who knows.

But there's always hope at the bottom of Pandora's box, no matter how tiny and weak compared to the other monsters at play. Don't let that die.

We don't need F15s and nukes. Less than 3% of the population is all it takes for a full blown revolution, fuck needing colour revolutions, but if it has to come to that, if protests and lawsuits don't work, then it's on revolt.

We don't even need an insurrection. A full blown revolution with a new government has a great chance that a totalitarian one will replace the mostly broken one we have now. That's not ideal either. If it must be, then so be it, but let's leave that as the last resort for when it gets closer to australia style.

We need only remove the corrupt motherfuckers. The framework for good government is still here. Only the corruption needs to be removed, and stronger checks and balances are needed.

Until they're ready to pull the trigger on the great reset, and they will not be until things get desperate for the hoi poloi, we have a small window of opportunity to fight it off.

Remember the great depression, they need to artificially recreate that before the people will bend over and accept it. At this rate, it will never be bidet's to offer it. He's no FDR and this ain't no new deal. The banks fucked us over right before the great depression and brought that about, and eventually WWII.

They're trying the same shit again, only this time, they'll own it all, and we'll all be serfs. West Taiwan invading East Taiwan might be the powderkeg that starts WWIII as a hot war, but that will likely come after the reset. Yeah, fuck my social credit score. Just as every dollar is a debt (look up the meaning of "note" in the context of "Federal Reserve Note"), a negative social credit score is a win for me.

If you want to be a slave. Do nothing. Go along with it. Bend over. Take the killshot, die, maybe survive to serve, maybe be broken.

Whatever is in there, when that pfizer vax carrying truck spilled a few months ago, if it caused FEMA to get kicked out of the cleanup by the military so whatever graphene oxide or other evils are in the killshots don't get into the ground water, do you really think that's something you'd want in your arteries, or in your kids?

Or, choose to die with your boots on, never surrender. Fight them everywhere. Take back our country.

Find their bunkers and ransack them.

Do every little thing you can to fight back, any way you can.

Once we free our country, then free our brothers and sisters in the UK, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, France, and so on.

Resist these fuckers. Don't give in. Not an inch, not even a fucking trillionth of a yoctometer.

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Entropick 2 points ago +2 / -0

This comment lit the flame of victory for the day!

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turtlebam 2 points ago +2 / -0

Excellent message! I think you should make a new post with the exact same text so that more people can read it.

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LightBringerFlex [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Amen. I also suggest bartering until we find a new permanent currency.

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LightBringerFlex [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Barter with goods, services and precious metals like silver.

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brahbruh 6 points ago +6 / -0

At some point, they are going to pull the plug on the power grid and/or the internet.

Crypto is a great way to avoid USD, but its existence is also purely based on the Internet. If the Internet is broken up, even into a few regions, existing cryptocurrencies are fucked. This is an underrated and almost entirely unknown problem WRT crypto.

They cannot unplug gold and silver. They can come and try to take it, but they can't just remotely destroy it or hack it with quantum computers or turn off the Internet or power to fuck it over.

Follow the advice by @DR534 herein.

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BlackDay2020 2 points ago +2 / -0

Excellent point. A more complex technology generally has more points of failure. What good is crypto in a jungle? Not even silver will help you there. Food and water are the most important.

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luckzzzy 5 points ago +5 / -0

I would say Bitcoin is one of those alternatives... if it thrives they will shut down internet, but we have no option at the moment.

*EDIT: I'm seeing a rhetoric trying to debunk bitcoin at all costs now on Reddit...............

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HumbleMemeMaker 4 points ago +4 / -0

The economy makes no sense at this point, and the opportunities for a soft landing are gone.

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PoleWatcher 4 points ago +4 / -0

Bingo

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Skyrison 2 points ago +2 / -0

I'm building my own computer business.

I will not get vaxxed, they can fine me 100000000 dollars, i will NOT comply. wrap chains around my neck, I'll just walk harder.

if prices double? i wont buy ANY of their shit. I'll just make my own.

bring it, shitlords x(

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IGOexiled 1 point ago +1 / -0

Economics is only one aspect of the greater issue of Logistics.

Inflation, unemployment... You need money? To buy what goods, when the trade ships refuse to dock at port? The people who survive will be those who prioritized securing their supply chains. You can live by buying food with IOU's, but if the grocery trucks don't arrive you can't eat dollars.

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Theballsarein 1 point ago +1 / -0

No shit were you born yesterday? We've been loving in crony capitalism for the past 60 years

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mvrak 1 point ago +1 / -0

Shutting down another oil pipeline

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sharks_n_colorado 1 point ago +1 / -0

Its not an economic issue, thou, its a political issue.

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Mad_King_Kalak 1 point ago +1 / -0

I think they want the inflation to lessen the effects of our massive debt. Very Weimar Republic.

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LightBringerFlex [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

They can end debt Easy.

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Mad_King_Kalak 1 point ago +1 / -0

Not without a sharp crash. You need a war do end it without a crash.

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HKgoneWild 1 point ago +1 / -0

That's their intent.

And then when economy collapses, it's capitalism's fault, and we need more .gov control. For the children. Or some other shit like that.

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TurnToGodNow 1 point ago +1 / -0

I heard there is like a decentralized Craigslist now. Seems interesting. But I think the first thing is to secure local food sources. Find an area more outside the city and start buying milk directly from the farm, etc.

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LightBringerFlex [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

And use hydroponics.

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ghost_of_aswartz 1 point ago +1 / -0

hydroponics is expensive, complex and wasteful unless you add in fish and solar / wind. Then the solar can run the pumps and then you just have to manage the pH and nitrates. But how can you do this if the economy collapses...where are you going to get fancy chemicals and the pump?

Now I have a solution for the pump, and it's not very well known. It's a hydraulic ram pump, and it runs off physics of gravity; and once you get it going it can self sustain and needs little maintenance. It's not frost proof though, meaning you have to empty at sign of frost and wait out all winter; so it's only good in USDA zones 10-11 and above, unless you want to so solar or somehow superinsulate most of it (bury 2.5' deep the lines) and then insulate the pump head and heat with a 40W light bulb or something--which is what we do in winter here for well heads)

the chemicals and fish problem are a big problem; may be better to scale up and just have a pond and then use hydraulic ram pump to pump to beds, have beds dump back to pond and hope for the best.

in this case I'd use soil and a drip system; and it woudl be more like a permanent ebb and flow system

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ghost_of_aswartz 1 point ago +1 / -0

my point is: hydroponics is pretty much a no-go in a collapse situation; its not self sustaining. Now you can do something LIKE hydro if you have a pond, or rain-catch off a roof. That is what I'm doing now. I have 6 used IBC containers that held molasses (the best thing to hold...or some other syrup or condiment); lined up and hooked up in parallel at the base with hoses to a type of manifold; then there's the 2 exits, and they are used for irrigation, and pretty much powered by gravity. However I do want to try the hydraulic ram pump to pump it up to a pond that is not yet been made into a pond. It's dug but I have to clear rocks and stumps and such; and then do the underlayment and then the liner, and those are ready to go I just have been stalling for some damned reason (many half done projects)

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LightBringerFlex [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Initial setup is expensive but running it is cheap. $100 a month for a nice setup to run it.

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ghost_of_aswartz 1 point ago +1 / -0

Doy

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onetimeuser 1 point ago +1 / -0

What's the best form of silver to stack?.... Coins, bars... 1oz, 10z, 1kg?

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onetimeuser 1 point ago +1 / -0

Thanks. Gonna start stacking

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BRANDON_LETS_GO 1 point ago +1 / -0

Bitcoin

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Mrexreturns 1 point ago +1 / -0

Stack silver and insert them in threads instead of using fiat currency. Then only allow the government to mint money using its own treasury instead of allowing private corporations to do it.

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LightBringerFlex [S] 1 point ago +2 / -1

Bitcoin and fiat are both scams.

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Entropick 1 point ago +1 / -0

from u/brahbruh:

Crypto is a great way to avoid USD, but its existence is also purely based on the Internet. If the Internet is broken up, even into a few regions, existing cryptocurrencies are fucked. This is an underrated and almost entirely unknown problem WRT crypto.

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Entropick 1 point ago +1 / -0

Oh yeah, go 100% all in, every angle should be considered, I wish you the best.

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LightBringerFlex [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

The Commies are brainwashing people like you that it’s good.

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ghost_of_aswartz 1 point ago +2 / -1

traditional supercomputers at the NSA designed for cracking can already crack a single wallet in about a week to a month

quantum computers can crack a wallet in minutes

There are allegedly 2 or 3 crypto currencies that use quantum resistant encryption algorithms; one is from switzerland called QRL (quantum resistant ledger) and the other one I think is called Quantum I believe. i know more about QRL, though it seems promising they would not field my request for comments on it. QRL is not available on any of the popular exchanges; it's very obscure at the moment.

But these aren't the only problems with crytpocurrency security. There's also backdoors in all of our devices; if you use an intel based system--that's any windows system or apple system, well, there's a firmware backdoor in it. If you use AMD, there's a total secondary cpu embedded in the CPU, and they say it's specifically FOR preventing memory hijacking and firmware backdoors and for security and validation; but some german smarty pants on youtube did this 3 hour crytpo hacker berlin talk that was quite above my paygrade talking about ways they compromised it and how it could be exploited.

There's backdoors in every mobile phone; there's nsa backdoors in every single consumer router / access point that you can buy in the USA; there's backdoors in nvidia graphics chips; there's backdoors in the wifi chips; there's backdoors in the bluetooth chips; not to mention older bluetooth has been severely compromised. Every browser has a multitude of vulnerabilites; every software OS has vulnerabilites; and finally

and this is a big one

you have a nefarious intelligence community that wikileaks has shown us to be dishonest and yet extremely capable of compromising systems with advanced software; and they have an 'elite internet layer' that gives them ultimate priority over traffic so that they an do what's called quantuminsert which is where they rat run normal routers to be given the HOV lane at light speed more or less to duplicate your packets, modify them, and then send them to their destiation faster than YOURS hits the destination. So their cloned and altered internet traffic gets there faster and the way that internet stacks work in the OS is that it only recognizes the first packet and the subsequent ones are dropped. So the NSA can basically hijack your traffick, and then fuck with it.

This is a huge threat if you don't trust your government, esp if they are known to steal or tortiously interfere with financials because they treat you like a terrorist or politically targetted individual

All those things said, crytpo IS the future; there is no escaping it. You just have to find ways to mitigate against all those things I mentioned

Yes they CAN embargo your crypto traffick with firewalls

They CAN poison DNS and cause websites not to resolve

They CAN block you at the ISP level inside your coutnry

They CAN bust through VPNs now

They CAN do deep packet inspection through VPNs now

They even can--with given enough activity--disambiguate ("identify you") through TOR the onion router.

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Bye_Reddit 1 point ago +1 / -0

It's more than a little suspicious when people claim to be red-pilled (wary of fiat and other government activities) and in the same breath praise crypto as some kind of savior technology. They don't have the first clue about digital security.

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Tegrity -1 points ago +4 / -5

You need to get a community on board with a cryptocurrency that is fast and free to transact with. Start transacting in everyday services or items if you can inside that community. Small things to start, like food from a garden or a farmers market, trade in services like lawn mowing or snow removal, ride sharing.

I'm not shilling for a personal favorite and I don't own any at the moment, but https://nano.org/ has great features for just thing. Instant transaction, no fees, not tied to miners. It has 3rd party integration for real world merchants.

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LightBringerFlex [S] 7 points ago +9 / -2

I wouldn’t touch crypto wirh a 10 foot pole.

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MacNarratives 0 points ago +3 / -3

Why?

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luckzzzy 3 points ago +5 / -2

They couldn't explain.. Crypto is the future. And our exit to a better world.

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Stuffyknows2much 1 point ago +3 / -2

Anybody who talks like this should be avoided

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cyberrigger 1 point ago +1 / -0

There are too many of them. There is no limit on their creation.

Crypto is becoming another unlimited fiat currency.

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MacNarratives 1 point ago +1 / -0

Which is why Bitcoin is the real deal. Cannot be inflated.

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cyberrigger 0 points ago +1 / -1

What makes it the "real deal"?

By what authority?

IMO --- when everyone starts promoting it

it is time to get out.

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MacNarratives 1 point ago +1 / -0

It's the real deal because unlike many other digital currencies the total amount of Bitcoins is set is stone and cannot change i.e. there is no entity that can inflate the currency the way we see with fiat.

The whole point is there is no authority.

Much to the contrary, when everyone starts promoting it (i.e. the price goes up) is when you wish you were in already.

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cyberrigger 1 point ago +1 / -0

Bitcoin2.0

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ghost_of_aswartz 1 point ago +1 / -0

crytpocurrencies are the globalization of wall street stock market

blockchains are becoming new financial services; treated now as "stock" -- coins held are "stock" in that blockchain service

The problem is that the same people who control financial services now are the ones controlling those blockchains...they just will have more control over everything

The ONLY 'anarchocapitalistic" blockchains are the ones you cannot exchange your USD to buy; such as MONERO and other privacy coins like Piratechain.

Whenever you see governments go after those, THAT is how you know they're truly anarchical in nature, so good to have those on hand

My professional advice since you didn't ask is the only cryptos you should get into are those that you've researched and know what service they offer and that you think that service is good

for example there is one that lets you give out loans; there's another that enables saving files in unused space (filecoin? iirc), there's those that do smart contracts and a blockchain that lets you add immutable documents to the blcokchain for legal reasons for example...these are good ideas; there's polkadot which enables the different blockchains to talk to each other.

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BlackDay2020 1 point ago +1 / -0

food from a garden or a farmers market, trade in services like lawn mowing or snow removal, ride sharing

None of this will survive. Even food got seized from people's homes in the Bolshevik revolution.

Le government: All your assets are belong to me now

No internet and power? Digital devices getting seized? Such a government won't be stupid enough to allow a parallel economy.

If everyone stored crypto, who stores the food? Where will it come from?