It's basically impossible to prove anything is true, outside of pure math. All you can do is find a model that fits more observable facts than any other, which is heliocentric globe earth.
On the other hand, it's quite possible to disprove something, which is why FE is so dumb.
If the earth was flat, the observable movement of the sun would be impossible.
Either the sun crosses the "disc" at sunrise and sunset, in which case it would rise and set in places it has never, anywhere been observed to do, or it just sort of goes in circles above us.
This is an extremely stupid hypothesis, even if we accept the idea that a body can move in a circle for thousands of years, at least, with no discernable mechanism.
First, if that were the case, we could see it at any time of the day or night. Spare me the "spotlight" BS; you would still see a massive glow on the horizon like you get from cites (which we don't) and we would also see small amounts of light refracting of particles in the atmosphere (which we also don't). You would also see a "crescent" sun as it moved away from you where the spotlight material blocked the light.
Second, according to the dimensions suggested by this theory, the sun could never physically go below around 13° from the earth's surface under optimal conditions, according to grade-9-level trig. If you were on the equator, it can't go below 30°. (The minimum angle is much higher if we go with the "spotlight" cope but, as we've already seen, that's stupid.) I'll also note that this lowest angle would be in the middle of the night, when you supposedly can't even see it, so the real minimum angle at sunrise/set is somewhat higher.
So if you ever observe the sun getting within 10° of the horizon, that concrete evidence that FE is not real.
Until you tweak the "theory" again...
I find FE tends to come from two places.
One is complete opposition to orthodoxy. Not to say questioning orthodoxy, but rather assuming everything considered orthodox is false, and that they have been granted special knowledge that ordinary people don't have access to (unless they can go on youtube, which is full of videos "exposing" the truth that never seem to get taken down or blocked in any way). This is basically the same as the people who believe everthing they are told by the powers that be, but in reverse. This is why you can't convince either of them of anything; there is no thought involved.
The second is a complete lack of knowledge or the science and math fundamental to astronomy. I'm not talking about quantum mechanics or black hole physics, either. I'm talking high school trigonometry amd geometry. Take a tennis ball and a soccer ball and hold one in front of the other. Does one look less curved? It isn't, it's just a different size. Now imagine a ball about a billion times bigger; is it possible that it would look less curved to the point that the human eye couldn't detect a curve at all? Hmmm...
Flatheads will literally watch tens of hours of schitzo youtube video talking about flight plans but won't take 30 minutes to learn how light refraction works.
So yeah, no one is censoring you (and I actually argued against it, btw), we've just considered your points and found them empty. But you just keep trying to bump the discussion, which is annoying, especially when you bring absolutely nothing new. At least when you tweak the theory to account for the latest debunking there's some kind of challenge in working though why you're wrong this time, but usually it's hard to even get you to explain what you think is true without "EdUcAtE yOuRsElF, hErE's A lInK", which basically just proves that you can't explain it.
I'll put these essays up occassionally, in the hopes that you might be arguing in good faith but the usual response is dismissal of my points without refutation and accusations of being a shill, at which point I just fall back to mockery which, luckily, is quite easy.
Flathead: Prove the earth is round without usong pictures.
User: I can see the sun set below the horizon.
Flathead: THAT'S NOT PROOF! YOUR EYES ARE ACTUALLY LYING! LOOK FOR THE GREEN FLASH AT SUNSET!
Stage 1: Go off your meds and make a series of rambling youtube videos that provide no evidence, no logic, don't even actually layout your model for criticism, but are full of emotional rhetoric and persecution fantasies.
Didn't they just buy a bunch of stock from both Fox and Budweiser recently?
Looks like they're consolidating...
I know you think you heard me say masks work, and you think I told businesses they'd be fined if they let you in without a mask, but you're not an expert, are you sweetie?
Remember (in Canada) when they just stopped tracking hospitalizations, cases, and deaths by vax status?
Of course not, because none of the news outlets mentioned it.
I'm all for woodchipping pedos, but who is the victim here?
Like, how is it child pron if the "child" doesn't exist?
I'm confused.
The article keeps using "she", so...it's a woman drag queen? Doesn't that defeat the entire purpose of being a drag queen?
Or is the NY Post just trans-cucked?
Also, lol at the capeshit shirts, no surprises there.
They should be sentenced to mental hospitals...
They're full of parasites and we can't digest chitin.
What, you don't cram you one year old full of fillet mignon every night?
I'm glad he's bringing it to light but he doesn't offer much in the way of substance.
He paints this picture that this dude groomed a boy for drag, but we don't actually know what he was charged for, or even if the boy in question was the victim (the only mention of victims is that the tranny didn't get caught doing anything with the special needs kids he works with).
Maybe that's just how the information from the courts works but the article was pretty much rage-bating and about two facts related to the headline.
Also, "she".
It's incredible how suddenly we can go from "this is crazy, no one is doing that" to "our course we're doing that, we've always done that".
Nah, it is a conspiracy; big schitzo wants you to think they're just nuts, while they have a direct line to Santa Clause...
Maybe the hauled a bunch of studio lights and batteries along with them to get better pictures..?
Any electrics...
Not if your debt is in your own currency and you have total control over it.
China has been manipulating their currency directly since Nixon; all they would have to do is trigger hyperinflation, making the debt worthless, pay it off, then introduce a new (digital) currency.
As a bonus, they level the middle class and turn all their people back into peasants.
You know how we know this is bullshit?
While they're attacking farming for carbon and nitrogen, manufacturers of cheap plastic toys are allowed to put out as much as they like. Hundreds of thousands of completely frivolous plastic products are produced, shipped, broken, and shipped back to be dumped in the ocean every year, but they focus on limiting food.
Literally no such thing as a free lunch.
Is this supposed to be an argument?
I really hope you guys aren't sending your best, for your sake...
I'll be the first to admit that gravity is weird and we don't understand it's fundamental origins, but this is pretty simple.
Much like how you can easily and in many ways observe the celestial bodies around us to conclude that we must be on a globe, without ever seeing it from above, we can observe the behaviour of gravity without understanding why it works.
Gravity does not exert an "all encompassing force". Gravity causes everything on Earth, regardless of it's mass, to accelerate at a constant rate.
This is weird because Force = Mass x Acceleration. That means that the force that gravity exerts on different masses varies depending on the mass.
This was demonstrated by the famous Tower of Piza experiment: if you drop a cannon ball and an apple, which vary greatly in mass, from the same height they will reach the ground at the same time (so long as their coefficient of friction is roughly the same). If gravity were exerting the same force on everything, the more massive cannonball would actually fall slower because it wouldn't accelerate as quickly.
The "force of gravity" for you, personally, is only as much as is needed to accelerate you towards the Earth at about 9.8m/s^2; if you can accelerate faster than that away from the Earth, you can leave the ground.
Now you can go ahead and nitpick my explanation (it's hardly complete) but I would point out that: if gravity doesn't work on a globe Earth, it doesn't work on a flat Earth either.
This isn't wrong per se, but what exactly do you do with a person who does something like this?
Like, maybe they were completely failed by their parents; but they're still fucked in the head and have no place in decent society.
The justice system isn't about punishing criminals as much as it's about making sure no one else is wronged like their victims were.
If you can get them to repent and make amends so that they aren't going to repeat their crimes, great, but if they're always going to be a threat, why tolerate their presence in society?
This operates on the same principal as vaccination: your boogers catch airborn viruses before they enter your system, which die, and when you consume them your body develops immunity.
It's science
Yeah, Canada has some of the most expensive land in the world, and the land outside cities is often zoned as Environmentally Protected which means you can't build on it if you wanted to. By far, the majority of land in Southern Ontario, at least, is zoned this way. The low end of house prices in my area has gone up 400% in the last 10 years.
That said, I know people who bought houses without (much) help. It's possible, but you have to have an above average job, low or no debt, and dedicate yourself to nothing else.
I also want to briefly address the "so what?" factor.
Imagine if FE were true. That would mean that someone is actually able to manipulate reality across the planet to make the sun appear to act as though it were hundreds of times bigger and as though we were orbitting it. They would also be manipulating the stars, which also behave as though the earth is a globe. Not to mention stuff like AM/FM transmission which, on FE, should be able to reach anywhere on earth but somehow doesn't. Or satelite phones. Or GPS.
On top of that, they are able to manipulate every astronomer, pilot, and sailor in history to pretend the earth is centered around the north pole, with dimensions radically different than they should be and completely erase any credible source espousing contrary information.
Contrast this to a known global conspiracy like Covid. They were completely unable to supress information for even a few months.
So, if FE is real and globe earth is a deception: what does it matter? The powers that be would have to be so omnipotent to manipulate reality in this way that there isn't any conceivable difference anyone or everyone could make. What's the point of waking people up to this "fact" if there is literally nothing they could conceivably do about it?
Again, contrast with Covid. It was important to spread the truth because people were volunteering to lockdown and take experimental gene therapies because they were being deceived. Everyone who knew the truth could protect themselves and, when enough of us learned the truth, we got them to lift the lion's share of the restrictions. At the end of the day, we are on the same playing field and our actions have consequences.
Is the point of FE simply demoralization? To get people to give up and live as though their lives are the playthings of hidden, malevolent, beings with powers beyond our comprehension? If not, then what are you actually trying to acheive?