Why do you run from me as a sweaty rat trying to avoid answering a simple question:
Do you understand that "ukraine" literally means "outskirts" in all slavic languages?
pharoah represented the civilization itself.
Civilization that didn't leave us any significant legacy except useless pyramids. They f.e. used geometry, obviously, but it was ancient Greeks who bring it to humanity as useful system of knowledge.
Also, their undoubtely unique and developed civilisation eventually failed. Not very succesfull guys.
Could we build a copy of the great pyramid?
But for what purpose? There is no any technical problems in that at all. Only financial ones. Name me a single reason for spending billions to build this completely useless thing.
The pyramids were built for the glory of that civilization.
More like for the glory of pharaons. They have no any purpose useful for civilisation. Say, another megalitic project - Suez canal, at least useful for delivering huge amount of goods from one hemisphere to another. Pyramids, in the best case, is just an archeological curiosity and attraction for tourists.
whether it's possible man could relearn these skills without sufficient motivation
What could be a motivation to build a copy of pyramid?
Once, one millionare built a giant fiberglass pyramids with all that precise "golden" ratios and even that "direction to the North star" not far from Moscow. You know that energies and all that esoteric stuff. Dude spent millions of dollars. Guess what. They was nothing more than attraction for idlers. Some was disassembled, largest one crushed onto neighbouring ostrich farm during one of hurricanes. Enthusiasm about all that "positive energy" from "golden ratio geometry" dried fast, and not much was spent on further maintenance. Look for it - "Alexander Golod pyramides".
That was some motivated millionare. To build a copy of Great pyramid you will need billion of dollars at minimum. So you need a billion dollar motivation. What could it be?
Nothing except creating a tomb for some elite bastard who obsessed with pharaons glory coming to my mind.
In a thread about an important realization or discovery, post a joke.
If there will appear such thread, I wouldn't care about kike jokes at all. But still nothing really important. Interesting or curious - yes, but important.... Too rare animal, unfortunately.
And who cares about upvotes here? Everybody just read /new . It's not reddit or twitter hopefully.
What narrative?
Kind of "ancient Egyptians had a technology we don't have". It is in every post about pyramids, directly or by implication.
I'm asking a question.
Like answer is not obvious. There is no any technical problems to build a pyramid twice larger than greatest one with much better quality, precision and complexity of inner design.
But who will pay for it and for what purpose? Why it could be necessary to build a pyramid?
It's like asking if we could build Great Wall. Of course we could. But who need it?
We don't build pyramids not because we can't or don't know some secret know-how, but because they are completely useless.
Here you go: "Alexander Pushkin was Initiated in 1821 at Lodge Ovid, in Kischinev, Russia." That said, I agree with you that freemasonry is mostly a European thing. Was Pushkin a jew, mayhap?...
Pushkin was 1/8 nigger. But it is stunning that you are not aware that Russia is a largest European country. :)
Masonry came from France into Russian Empire in the middle of 18 century.
Masonic shit in Russian Empire existed to the Aug 1 1822 when masonry and any similar "secret societies" was completely prohibited by Alexander I. So Pushkin was a mason for around a year. :) Later, in 1825 a failed coup attempt happened, some think that it was an attempt of retaliation to the throne for masonry prohibition, since many participants was ex-masons. Few friends of Pushkin was among arrested for the coup.
If you are interested, you could find a lot of interesting stuff about masonry in Russian literature of that time. Traditionally, Russians don't give any fuck to that masonic NDA and easily spread all masonic secrets. It is a fun reading, actually, but I'm not sure that it will be relevant to the Western masonry internals. F.e. often meetings of Russian mason lodges ended with booze-ups and sometimes brawls. :)
Also, famous Russian writers of that time, like Tatischev, Griboedov, Vyazemskiy (friend of Pushkin), Chadaev, Karamzin, Radischev and some other I don't recall was masons.
Can anyone at all become famous without being approved and vetted by the elite beforehand?
This reminded me of Pelevin's novel Generation P, haha.
You know the answer. :) Pelevin is just a regular soviet engineer, he even nearly got PhD with thesis on trolleybus engine driver or something. Then USSR fell and he started to work for some publishing house (as engineer he was friendly with computers) and began to write his stories and novels. And no, he is not a mason. :)
Interesting that he was nominant for Nobel prize, but got nothing. May be because he was not in club. :)
And yes, he is without any doubt very talented. Last things are not as exciting as usual, but still good.
A really recommended read, if you haven't read it already.
I read everything he write. :) Meanwhile he publish his books on his site in open access free of charge, after some time pass after publication. Extremely rare thing among modern popular authors. He even uploaded few things in English: http://pelevin.nov.ru/texts/ scroll to the end.
I don't know if it is available in English, but try to find his SciFi novel "Methuselah's Lamp, or The Last Battle of the Chekists and Masons". A lot of fun, pretty ontopic on that forum. "General Chutzpa of Federal Reserve", "Safe space", reptiloids and all that stuff. :)
while the actual shit is happening away from the public eye hidden in plain sight.
I think it is a way all our clown world going. Political parties with deep state behind, WEF, UN, WHO,etc clowns with their public activity while somebody behind curtains create and push narratives and so on. Same with masons.
So what?
What would have changed if it was not pyramids, but dodecahedrons?
Ancient people of Egypt somehow built large buildings and bury mummies of their elite in them. Great, they was expirienced builders and had a lot of workforce. We could be proud of them or whatever. We are not sure how exactly they do that. How answering that question could help us to resolve our current problems with insane inbred elites who want to enslave humanity and control everything? Or even simplier - if we find out how exactly they build pyraminds - how it could be useful for anything today? Are we have to build genune original pyramide for Soros or Schwab? Or what?
You could make concrete of any quality, it only depends on price. Concrete used, f.e. in building NPP reactor zones is magnitude orders better than any roman concrete you could find out. It will last for hundreds of millenia if not thousands.
Really, concrete checmistry is much more interesting and, what is more important, useful mystery than all pyramides of the Earth together. It is really still only partially studied, and not all processes going in concrete have explanation, despite our use of concrete for millenias.
Rebar does not rust inside concrete, because it is protected by alkaline environment of concrete. If you follow guidelines and do not allow rebar to stick out and keep at least 5cm between rebar and concrete surface it will last forever even in underwater constructions.
Egyptian astronomer need only to find directions to the sunrise and sunset of any day, then find a middle. Today we will name it vector algebra and sum of two vercotrs pointing to sunrise and sunset will be vector directed precisely to the axis of earth rotation, we don't really have to. People learned to precisely half things long before Egypt.
In any case, all that pyramides things is undoubtely fascinating, but I can't imagine that anybody here never heard about pyramides and didn't read similar posts thousands of times already.
Funny, that this constant repeating that Egyptians build pyramides with assumption that we could not do that now is even more puzzling then pyramides themselves. Like some cult that demands constant praising pyramids. IDK, choose some date (may be "encoded" in pyramides), make that day a "Egyptian pyramides day" and celebrate it. Would be a nice archeological holiday.
Our ancestors did a tons of interesting and amazing things and we don't know how exactly they did it. But all that things have no any relevance today, and nobody need to repeat them. They without a doubt have significance in historical sense, and deserve place in books and articles, but it is just senseless to repeat them again and again like they are something in line with current conspiracies.
I'm all for discussing anything weird and strange from bigfoot and UFO to pyramids and greek fire, but only in presense of some new information. Repeating all that old and well-known stuff everybody already read in hundreds of books and thousands of posts is extremely weird and looks like some strange conspiracism cult. We assemble together and tell each other exactly same old stories round and round. And it is even do not bring anything for soul or thought, unlike, say, church service or just listening beloved music. It's fucking weird.
Like I never do that. They are simple. Very simple buildings. Large ones, but very simple.
Stupid shit is to post same senseless narrative for decades without any attempt to find anything that really intersting.
What is the real purpose of making same posts about pyramids, how they "could not be built today" and all that shit? You guys do that for decades in internet. Same fucking phrases without any new information at all. What's the point?
using jackhammers to remove the stone
Large stone blocks from natural stone is cuted out from rock using rope saw, not with jackhammers. It is self-aligning thing, so you get precise flat cut out of the box. Just modern ones use polymer ropes and modern abrasives. Oh, and electrical/diesel power instead of slaves.
Perfectly lined up with the north star,
What could be a problem with that? It is not a rocket science to find axis of Earth roatation at all.
Hidden rooms and tunnels
Occupying a very small part of whole volume. IDK, did you ever saw a smoke-duct path inside a traditional Russian stove? That's the pinnacle of ancient topology of internal cavities, not that pyramid tunnels.
Could we do it?
Easily. And it will be much better pyramid then Egyptian ones. The question is only in an idiot who will agree to finance building of such useless thing.
What the fuck with you, people? Yes, pyramids are cool monuments of ancient architects and builders. Nice. We will never find out exact methods used to build them. You could endlessly guess what exact fiber they use for ropes of rope saws or what configuration or levers and how many slaves exactly they needed to move stones. We could never find out. But what's the point of that, seriously? Do we urgently need to build a pyramid for some Soros or Rothshild mummy? Or is it have to be built using exact ancient tech now just because?
I don't see any use for pyramid itself and its building tech details unless you are an archeologist whose job to study that monument.
As for conspiracy part of pyramids "mystery". If there was some "advanced" "alien" "lost" technology used to build pyramids, then I have to make you sad.
No advanced technology exists by itself. There are always enormous amount of things in line to make that technology exist. Even if it is a magic wand, there should be whole industry to mass produce them. Not even talking about something not from fairy tales. But no any traces of tha found.
If you are looking for mystery in pyramids, then why you stuck on their properties, instead of searching and studying archeological artifacts with unimaginable purpose? Remnants of some unknown technology or something like. That should be the main direction of research, not that endless dancing around pyramids and posting already rotten shit about "how they did it"/"today it is impossible" round and round.
Bring here some obviously technological archeological artifact found somwhere in Egypt that is clearly out-of-time, too advaced for ancient Egypt and having unknown purpose. Well, even ancient Egyptian screw with cross head will be much more interesting than this endless "they build them, now we can't do the same". Not even talking about some more interesting and puzzling things that could really be a part of that "lost advanced ancient techology". That would be cool and interesting, not yet another standard post with standard phrases and deceit about regular things.
It is really doesn't fit in my head, how someone could wonder about pyramids technology, but have no any real intent to look for that techology.
Or I got all that wrong and real goal is just to sow a narrative "ancient Egyptians had a technology we don't have"? Then it is even more weird. What is the real purpose of pushing such narrative?
Ancient people was pretty competent, really. Especially in questions of protecting themselves from natural disasters. Othewise humanity wouldn't had survived.
However, pyramid shape is just simpliest to build and most stable shape possible. Most stable is tetraeder, but it is more complex to build - you have to do more math and use not only bricks with right angles. You could build pyramid of any size without any complex math. Easy to design, easy to calculate necessary material, easy to explain what to do to slaves. So, that pyramid shape.
Ancient people loved to follow KISS (Keep It Simple, Stupd!) principle. Meanwhile, this is a sign of high level of competence too.
Well, yeah, probably, but wouldn't you agree that it is kind of strange that so much of our classics are written by members of one single particular bored gentleman's club?
It depends on what you mean under "our classic". I see freemasons as a purely European phenomena. Masons seems to be a part of Western elite cultural and spiritual life, so there is no wonder that elite members participated in that thing. May be even other elite members forced others to join masonry, just like modern users of shitty social networks force their buddies who are not really interested in that shit to join.
The thing that forces me to not accept that masonic thing seriously is too wide spreading of it among Western elites. You can't have secret organisation when every second elite or around individual is in it. It is not a secret society anymore, it is more like political party or just yet another virtue signalling. Secret society could not be so widespread.
Of course masonry was used to influence elites and push narratives, but that doesn't make them something special. Not any different form modern political parties, really.
IDK, but in Russia, since Russian Empire time masonry is inseparable from jewry, and defautt term for that phenomena that once existed in Russian Empire until was prohibited and prosecuted was "judeo-masonry", not free-masonry or whatever. May be Jews was those who control narratives in masonry.
It does not look unbelievable, really. Jews being significant player in the West, does not have kind of official ways of influencing elite. Lobbying interests, if you want. So they create and made that masonry popular among elites and get what they want. Just like modern AIPAC/ADL in USA and NGOs and clubs controlled by them, including Hollywood and whatever writers associations that exists in USA. Same with Europe.
Is it all just a coincidence?
Of course not. It is a direct depiction of brain contents of elite and their leaders of that time.
whether those cultural codes were manufactured artificially or did it all happen without any delibarate guidance and were driven by popularity and talent alone?
Manufactured cultural codes could be presented with great talent too.
Even occasionally looking at commercial ads, you will find some of them are really great and obviously created by a talented person. There even was collections of best ads that was interesting to see. Well, today, seems that culture is nearly lost, but sometimes you still could find something decent.
I think that masonry, in whole, was more kind of political party of the time. May be there was some lodges with real secret and malicious shit, but hardly they had many members and expose their existence and membership. Like political party and deep state today. Pretty good method to hide real shit in the clear sight. "Yes, of course, I'm mason like many other celebrities - look, Mark Twain is a mason, so why shouldn't I be mason too?" And do shit in some really secret organisation. Even if some questions appear, then it is just "well, we just do our secret masonic things, you know, like Mark Twain and others". Perfect coverup and ability to manipulate influencers of the time if necessary.
Of course this disgusting Jew never meant his own religious cult of YHWH saying this. :)
There is not much know how in pyramids. And I can't imagine what use of their technologies could be useful today for anything.
You know, tech of making wooden wheels for a wagon is pretty interesting and sophisticated (more than pyraminds, IMO), but who the fuck could need it today?
Same with pyramids. Humanity built a lot of things much bigger and sophisticated than pyramids. Take an average HPP dam f.e. or starting table of a cosmodrome. I could not think out not only why anybody will want to build a pyramid, but even if he want, why whould he use that ancient and ineffective tech?
Sir Walter Scott, author of numerous historical novels, including Ivanhoe, Rob Roy
Ivan Hoe? Hmmm... Not only freemason, but also Russian shill. :)
Ontopic:
Wasn't Masonic lodges turned to kind of clubs for bored elite? Kind of LARP of the time with the goal to connect and influence different circles of elite, barely intersected in real life.
What about Rotary clubs? Quite popular thing, as far as I know.
Elite Golf clubs also used as a place of interaction of individuals from different elite circles.
Even if masonic rithuals really have some technical purpose, I see no problems do them in Golf clubs or even prvate fitness.
Would those books even be considered classics, if not for the mason membership of those authors?
At least Mark Twain is good and interesting for me and I think deserve title of classic regardless of masonic membership.
It is more Jewish shit - to declare some Jewish dulls as classics and geniuses. Jews, being talentless in everything except chutzpa and usury, always do that.
As for Hollywood, I think it is much more Jewish thing than masonic.
There is no any building problem of the past that could not be resolved with enough slaves.
You don't buy cryptocurrecy. You mine it. Especially at the beginning.
If somebody announce cryptocurrency that can not be mined out of the box, it's a scam.
That is why this question could be even more interesting. :)
It is really weird when people who work with all that complex astrophysics stuff suddenly fall to Karen's level of assuming some basic things.
Current understanding of Universe is that it expands everywhere more or less evenly and everything moves in addition. So, if you began to measure this expansion from some point using, say, red shift or whatever, you will suddenly find that you are in the center of expansion. :) Adding to that overall movement of Earth around Sun, Sun around center of Milki Way, Milky Way in local galaxy cluster, cluster in respect to other clusters and background, you will easily get weird, irregular and unpredictable, but pretty obvious results.
Somehow that irregularities in CBM and impossibility to account for all possible forming components of movement went to that Axis of Evil thing.
BigBang theory is based on few unproven dogmas - that speed of light is a constant, nothing could move faster than light, photon could not lose energy while traveling, metric of space have exactly 3 dimentions everywhere, current expansion is one-way process and few other. And on top o that it all covered with that Karen's impression of that presumable BigBang as regular explosion when everything expands from single point. So, astrophysicist looking into the skies think that they see this CBM as remnants of flash from their BigBang, far away from distant past running much faster than closer objects, so light from flash turned into microwaves due to red shift they observe. Things could be completely different if only one of their holy dogmas turn out to be false for a little bit. And with high probability all of them are false and some in huge. So, when you try to rig your observations to fit some beloved theory with its dogmas, all kind of shit will pop up. :)
Interesting, when amount of inconsistencies in attempts to preserve current set of dogmas will overhelm the obedience of scientists who already looks bored in current dogmatism that hinder scientific progress almost for century.
Not my business, really, but sholdn't the first question to that ad be "With what exactly you could guarantee that you really will do all that stuff and how will you pay to those who elected you if you break your promises?"?
IDK, but may be it is possible to make a flash-mob or whatever to push that question to the modern mainstream of social interactivity those polticians love today....
Or at least make that question floating on the top of that pre-election political theater.
I never heard that any politician ever discussed his own real responsibility and accountability for fulfilling his electoral promises. At least it will be interesting if it will be possible to rise that question to the target and force him to answer somehow.
When someone make an art a "storage of financial value" he doesn't devalue art to the level of money or other financial surrogate, he just show his own inability to understand the purpose of art.
At the same time you could observe "art" that is created for the sole purpose of storing financial value like that Banksy daub or Malevich "paintings". But that things have no any relations to the real art.
So your analogy of art and crypto is perfectly valid. You could account any technology as kind of art. None of them have a purpose of storing someone's financial value.
I will appreciate this, but in no way would insist on that if it could somehow harm your privacy or create any problems.
Its a number assigned at birth that represents our identity.
Mostly in financial sphere including to identify you to different private financial institutions like banks, funds and all that, as I get. It is private businesses who are satisfied with SSN as client ID, so there is wide fiield for shit of all sorts.
That's why it was not very obvious for me how SSN is really used from official docs about it.
Something like that?
I will never get tired of this.
Yep. Until you will be transferred by your masters to another direction of their western propaganda. :)
Advancing army obviously does not destroy bridges in the direction of their advance. :) Or is this yet another genius NATO strategy?
It's not a big deal to rebuild a bridge.
But what about this poor fighters for LGBT rights and drag queen hours for kids? Literally piles of corpses. https://t.me/intelslava/65143 Do NATO dickheads expect to use some satanic rithual with faggot orgy and child sacrifices to rise up dead?
And again you cowardly avoid a simpliest possible question - Do you understand that "ukraine" literally means "outskirts" in any slavic language?