Exactly my point, you're stuck in the physicist's trap.
And to "untrap" I, obviously have to believe in some unproven and poorly written garbage.
No, thank you. I don't need that unscientific shit to know that modern cellphone infrastructure, including social media is harmful for people. I don't need to refer to some authority to understand the harm and how exactly, and by whom it is done to the people.
You demand something that isn't required to show harm
Harm of what exactly? How do you know it is RF, if no any RF parameters measured and even RF presence is not proven?
There are some proposed underlying mechanisms, but it's not yet clear.
So no proof that such mechanisms exist. Case closed.
If a scientist don't care about what is really happens in his experiment, then he is not a scientist.
However the harm is still clear regardless.
Even if we don't take into account that none of studies you believe in was independently replicated, you still don't want to know harm of what exactly was studied. Just like that "scientists" who published their papers.
Interesting, that you are obviously trying not to convince me that phones are harmful, because I already know that, and seems that I know much more about that than you, but to convince me to believe in some papers written by some ignorant people who actually don't know shit about things they write about.
Do you understand that you are trying to do exactly same harm, corporations and authorities do using phones? Force people to blindly believe in some narrative, referring to some "experts". Looks like you are on the same side. It does not matter what narrative is pushed, the main thing is to break critical thinking and force subject to blindly believe some "authority".
Again, effects of what you are talking about? Authors didn't provide any sensible information that could be used to figure out what exactly they studied.
Sorry but that is pure and simple denial.
Yes, I deny garbage. This paper is a garbage and I carefully pointed out why exactly.
The engineer or physicist writes off all biological effects
There is no such separate and special thing as "biological effects". Biology works on the same physical principles as all other things in the world. It is in no way special.
If you want to introduce some additional effect or principle, in addition to physical one, in biology or medicine, then you have to describe its exact mechanism on the lowest possible level and prove it on this level, prove it with a simple, replicateable and clean experiment, that EM wave of RF could interact with a matter in some new, unknown way. And only then, you will be able to bring some ground for your baseless statement about "biological effects".
Without that, any "study" you could bring will be nothing more than bullshit. Not any different from a study about "we give a drink to one group from a random puddle, and other group from a tap and get different results" without providing full chemical analysis of water from puddle and from tap and describing exact mechanisms that gave results observed. That's not a science, it is a mockery of science and sanity. "Study" you brought here is nothing more than senseless torture of mice for the sake of getting publication score.
You don't get to dismiss the 100 studies reviewed
I do. Review is not a replication. Review is not a discovery of a new way of RF interaction with a matter.
And it is a pattern already, when scientists fall to writing reviews of multiple studies, then it is a clear sign that they know shit about things they review.
It is not a coincidence that biology and medicine are infamous for a very high rate of "review studies", much higher than in all other areas together. You will not find "review studies" in optics or reology. You will not find "review studies" in thermodynamics or chemistry. Because there are no any need for them.
Also, "review studies" is known for dismissing all studies that does not fit reviewer point. So, I wouldn't be amased at all, if there is another 100 studies (probably of same garbage quality as 100 reviewed) that show complete opposite results.
You don't get to invoke some grand conspiracy among researchers (paid for by no one) to deny all the findings.
There is no any findings. And the worst thing is that they don't need them. Current, completely broken state of biology and medicine is perfectly fine for making careers and acquiring funding, so nothing will change in observable future.
And then, people like you, pointing to that garbage, proclaim "its science!", just like that Fauci bastard, without even understanding how real science looks like. And no, publication in scientific journal does not make science from garbage.
But the same effects are shown over and over again.
But somehow new, undiscovered way of RF interaction with a matter didn't pop up yet . If you think it is normal, then I have a bridge to sell you.
However, your objections tend to favor the effects being DOWNPLAYED not OVERSTATED
To talk about some effects, you have to properly describe effects of what exactly you are talking about.
This description is completely absent, because "800-1900MHz with SAR from FCC certificate" is not a description at all. It is a "magic spell" copied from FCC certification paper without any understanding of its meaning.
This is the thing that makes this whole article a complete bullshit and with high probability just yet another fake, as many articles in biology and medicine are.
Interesting, how many articles from same Nature about coronahoax you accept as facts? I hope zero. Then why do you think this article is somehow different? Just because it support a narrative you like? But it is still a narrative, and it is still a fraudlent article for the sake of publishing article.
Science is not about things you like.
"Only heat, only heat" That is a pure denialist industry line, and not surprising from someone who gets visibly upset when presented with facts about low intensity microwave studies.
There is no single study about any other effects that is written scientifically and replicated.
"Facts" you see in all that stidies is no any different from "facts" from coronahoax studies, published in same journals.
Unfortunately, today 95% of biochemistry/medical studies are unreplicateable garbage or just fraudlent. There is absolutely no sense to blindly believe any without heavy critical analisys. And if any inconsistency is found, study should be discarded.
So I sure as hell wouldn't want to be subjected to a medical therapy 24/7 for something meant to be 10-15 minutes for a limited number of sessions
UHF therapy device have around 30-300W of power with directed antennas. 10-15 minutes of UHF therapy a day is much more energy than whole day with actively transmitting phone.
contraindications (including pregnancy, which relates to that rat study).
It is not wise to heat a fetuse in a womb. Regardless of a method.
Remember, chemotherapy is a therapy, but it's also a poison. It has it's place, and that place is few and far between, not forced onto the public.
This is not a reason to run around and yell bullshit about f.e. "There is awful poisonous aluminium oxide found in <whatever food>!!!".
There is real and obvious harm of cellular phones and smartphones for people. They are used by corporations and authorities for surveillance and control of population. Isn't that enough to make a good, honest and undeniable anti-modern-mobile propaganda? But instead of fighting or mitigating this real harm, I see tons of bullshit "studies", memes, posts and other fearmongering in all areas except the main and only real one.
This is insanity.
Instead of trying to scare audience with yet another bullshit, why don't you try to write a post that explain how any phone with OS and software from Apple, Google and other shitty corporations constantly steal and sell user private data, even private data of user contacts, user time (through ugly and idiotic interface), and whole user life spent in stupid applications? It is much more harmful for human brain and life than any possible tiny heating of human body surface layers with a very moderate RF power.
First you posted a paragraph and told me to "guess" rather than being able to show anything.
That's the point. If such paragraph in scientific paper looks perfectly normal for somebody, then, it says a lot about level of understanding how things really works.
That doesn't make much sense, no such thing as an active call on a "silenced" phone, so I have no idea what you're saying there.
Yes. Because you have absolutely no any idea about how cellphone works. Just like those who wrote this paper. Mobile phone is a magic for you and article authors. But there is no place for magic in scientific paper.
What could possibly be your problem with that band?
It's not my problem. It is a huge problem for article authors.
The penetration depth of RF into any conductive matter (all living beings are made from conductive material, if you are not aware) depends on frequency and resistivity. For real scientist it is important to show that phenomena they study, RF radiation, in this case, actually reach an object of study, mouse brain, in that case. And EM wave penetration depth heavily depends on frequency and resistivity of object and its surrounding. But authors just throw a "band", not even attempting to show that RF wave they study, will be able to reach mouse fetuse brain at a decent level to make their experimet have some sense. :) It is not a science - it is garbage.
No exact frequency, no any measurements of power actually emitted by phone if any, no phone model, no mention of cellular network standard generation used, no prove that their "active" phones differ from "deactivated" ones, no prove that phone RF, if any, actually reach object of study.
Depending on the network standard generation actually used for a call, phone baseband IC, firmware and so on, phone could tramsmit almost nothing, if there is no audio signal coming from its microphone, to save battery. Even with GSM, phone may transmit something only if there is data to transmit. If there is nothing to transmit, only small and rare service packets will be transmitted, lowering average transmitting power by hundreds if not thousands times.
Power of transmission for CDMA/3G (available at the time of article) heavily depends of the distance to the cellular base station and conditions of reception. If phone is close to base station, it will transmit at power level orders of magnitude less than if it is far from base station. It is a huge difference, when you have 1W peak transmission and 10mW peak transmission.
Nothing of above was taken into account by article authors, and this undoubtedly move this article to the area of bullshit.
There are many other flaws, from non-blind objects selection for final behaviour study to drawing questionable ADHD thing to the article. Authors even managed to put obvious bullshit into article, that probably was noticed by those who tried to take it seriously, so authors had to add corrigendum:
The authors identified an error in the determination of the maternal corticosterone levels as presented in Figure 4. The ELISA was repeated using stored serum samples from the original experiment. The levels have been corrected and are shown below in Figure 1 (the revised Figure 4). The mean corticosterone level in the pregnant control females was 5.4 ng/ml and in the exposed female mice was 6.1 ng/ml. There was no significant difference between the corticosterone levels of the control and experimental groups.
So, taking in account all of above, guess a probability that other data in the study is erroneous too.
The truth is that for completely unknown reason, life on planet Earth have a very strong protection from EM waves. This protection have no any obvious explanation, because it is able to protect living beings from tens and even hundreds of orders of magnitude stronger EM waves than any EM waves ever appeared on Earth naturally.
And even if this heavy protection is penetrated, the effect of EM waves interaction with living being organs is heat. This is used for more than a century for targeted medical heat treatment of internal organs, but used frequences are significantly lower than fraquencies used in cellular networks with power many times larger than power of cellphone transmitters, to allow EM waves to reach internal organs surrounded by conductive environment and heat them.
Unlike all that fearmongering about cellular phones, UHF therapy is well established medical treatment since at least 1950s and used routinely in treatment of many diseases.
Frequencies used in cellular network at power levels used are unable to reach inside human. It is like a cutlet in a microwave oven where 600-800W of 2.4GHz concentrated at the cutlet, but you still get cold middle with hot surface. Worst thing cellular network frequencies cold do to living being is a surface burn, and only if a power on the surface will be rised to few kW per square meter.
People get dumber because of modern social media content, and unwilingness to become smarter, not because of phones.
Shouldn't you just say?
Do you understand how modern smartphones work? There is no single really important detail provided in the description of differences between test and control phones. Not a single one.
Seriously, what do you know about how mobile phones work?
Basically, depending on used standard (2G/3G/4G at the time of study), phone model, direction of a call, method of "deactivating" phone and so on, there will be no any significant differences between "uninterrupted active call" on "silenced" phone and "deactivated phone".
And that 800-1900MHz band... :)
It is like a "study" about "influence of color on the behaviour of fleas" with zero information about color except that it was "popular".
That's really what matters.
Matters in what exactly? They didn't provide any real data about differences in setup between test and control groups. Their experiment is fundamentally unreproduceable.
And reproduceability is the only thing that matters in science.
often associated with ADHD
does not mean ADHD.
So link to ADHD is not proven.
It turns out these scientists were not retarded
Looks like they are even more retarded than I thought.
Full quote from article:
Thirty-three female mice were exposed throughout gestation (days 1–17) to radiation from muted and silenced 800–1900 Mhz cellular phones with a SAR of 1.6 W/kg. The phones were positioned above each cage over the feeding bottle area at a distance of 4.5–22.3 cm from each mouse, depending on the location of the animal within the cage, and placed on an uninterrupted active call for the duration of the trial. A control group of forty-two female mice was kept concurrently under the same conditions, however using a deactivated phone.
Guess, what's wrong in that description.
Interesting, looks like that ADHD thing exists only in Western countries. Just like autism, anxiety and other weird stuff.
Is there any solid, replicateable proofs that ADHD as a mental disease exist at all? All descriptions of ADHD I could found points to the murky situation that appears to me like child won in competition with parents for who is boss here, and who deserve all attention. Of course such children will be dumber, because parents will not force them to study. Absolutely nothing good cuff or clip on the butt could not resolve.
From the other side, if you read a definition and sympthoms attributed to ADHD, and invert them to get what those who talk about ADHD assume as healthy child without ADHD, then you will get a description of a vegetable or robot without own will. A person that does not show any unauthorized activity, never demand attention from his bosses, always thoroughly listen what bosses tell and obey anything. It is insane! If that's how those "psychiatrists" see "healthy" children, then it is time to get rid of "psychiatrists" from society, or they will destroy it.
Children should do crazy stuff, they should demand attention and should be restless source of all things that we love them for.
Back to article - how ADHD in rats was detected exactly? There is no single word about it in article.
Why all effects of basically just more cautious mice are attributed to cellphone radiation, not just to prescence of object above cage during pregnancy of their mothers? Mice have tons of enemies in nature, and all of them attack from above. It is pure instinct for mice to be afraid of objects above. So I see nothing strange that if pregnants mice is in constant stress from weird thing constantly hanging above their heads, their offspring could grow more cautious.
If you force a pregnant woman to live for months under a giant anvil hanging on a rope above her head, I doublt she will bring a healthy and calm child.
So, here we have yet another attempt to pass some bullshit unreplicated article as a science. No, guys, it is not a science at all. It is bullshit.
Especially funny, that taking in account what ADHD mean and believing this article, people at least here should conclude that cellphones radiation is a very good thing that helps humans not to turn into vegetables, those who invented ADHD want to make from us and our children. :)
PS: Why I'm certain for 100%, that those who talk about ADHD as a mental disorder, will never name, say, homosexuality a mental disorder, not even talking about naming it mental disease? :)
I have more practical approach to science. Any fundamental theory should open a multiple roads for technological progress, not close them. QM in that way is practical, verifiable, working and gives useful results. Einstein relativity only close roads without any practical application.
And no, GPS don't need relativity to work at all, those who try to use GPS as a single example of relativity usefulness, just never took a look into how GPS really works and unaware that it is differential system, not absolute one. It does not matter what absolute time is on satellites, the differences between times received from different satellites are used to calculate position. So, even if clocks run sligtly faster or slightly slower, this will give insignificant error (millimeters) in coordinates. Much more important thing is that all clocks on satellites should run with same rate, and this is solved using atomic clocks onboard that work on QM princiles (sic!).
So, from my point of view, QM wins over *R and it is *R that should be changed so that it will open multiple roads for practical technological progress.
They hate Orthodox Church everywhere and constanly tries to replace it at least with Greek-Catolic church. It is where interests of Rome and globohomos are in great agreement. Rome, for whatever reasons, still dreams about taking Orthodox Church under pope rule, live in the delusion that it is possible, and ready to ally with anybody and anything for that.
Church Slavonic/Old Bulgarian/Ancient Russian is a same language. Modern Bulgarian language slightly closer to that ancient language than modern Russian. You still know how to pronounce letter "Ъ"! :)
Dostoyevsky made mistake about one thing - nihilism of the West. If the West was really nihilistic, we had never had all that problems with the West. West is obsessed with their supremacy, and truly and sincere believe things could be only in a way they understand. That is why they constantly try to push their "values" on us. This is not nihilism, but more like religion or cult. West uses nihilism as a weapon to break the will of other nations, but they are in no way nihilists themselves.
There was no "Roman power" in that areas. In the largest possible state of Roman Empire, it didn't really expanded further than south beach of Black Sea.
Roman Empire had too short hands for that regions, and never had any noticeable influence over them.
There was much more Greek cultural, linguistic, traditional, religious influence, not Roman.
The only trace of Roman Empire in that region could be Romania. At least, their language have Latin roots, but they are Orthodox Christians, and never was Catolics.
All that "tzar"/"caezar", "Moscow is a Third Rome, and there will never be Fourth one" and so on things have nothing to do with Roman Empire, it is all about Christianity, that in Orthodox tradition developed trough Ancient Rome (first Rome, lost its title after Catolic schism in 1054), Byzantium (Second Rome, lost its title after defeat from Ottoman Empire in 1453) and eventually Moscow took that title as an only Imperial ancestor of Orthodox Christianity.
This is still same dogmatism, quantum mechanic does not fit into general relativity - it is a problem of QM, and never GR. All that quantum field theory, quantum gravity and so on, are attempts to fit quantum world into general relativity, never vice versa. And ths is in situation when number of real, replicateable experiments that confirm quantum mechanics validity are orders of magnitude larger than very few observations (not even controlled experiments) that could be explained by general relativity. Fuck, we practically use quantum mechanics laws even when typing our messages on thins forum, but there is zero real practical applications of general relativity. But it is quantum mechanics should be changed, not general relativity.
Thinking about that, you also could notice that it is not quantum mechanics that put limitations on further technological progress. So, the barely proven theory dictates what things shouldn't be researched should be kept intact, while solid proven theory that doesn't limit our progress should be somehow changed to fit former one. Looks like it is limitations that relativity put on progress are very important for those who keep relativity as dogma.
Something like that.
Thank you for writing interesting things, that make this forum worth reading.
Goblins don't like when Slavic people unite very much, they definitely have some transcendent antipathy against us. :)
As for visiting Russia - better wait for spring, it is much nicer here when weather is warm and everything is green. Winter have it's charm, but you have to like it to be pleased. :)
We have kind of legend or myth that St. Andrew in his North tour reached Novgorod (Slovensk settlement at the time), but no artifacts or written evidences exists and Orthodox Christianity came back here only centures later.
I think Bulgarians lived there long before official foundation of state. People have to had a history of living in some place before official establishing of state or town, with exception of establishing a state in a colonial manner.
Моля извинете, I meant just current state of Bulgaria. Love this country and people, been there many times, on vacations and business trips.
Russia also had times with nothing to be proud of, shit happens, especially if you have millenias of history.
My country is half a century older than Russia
It could be even millenia older, taking in account things I saw in Nesebr f.e. It could be even as old, as Ancient Greece.
Unfotunately Bulgaria today is under globohomo occupation, just like it was under Ottoman occupation recently. Nothing to be proud of.
It's Bulgarian language on the screenshot.
“just build your own particle collider”
This is not as hard, as you think, really. :) If you for whatever reason need one, you could build it in your garage at weekend. Search for "fusor" or "star in a jar" in internet. It will easily collide ions of whatever gas you pump into it for you.
I’d also like to hear your scientific mind’s thoughts on the scientific observations (which do appear to “disprove” the notion that the universe as a whole conserves energy
This observations does not disprove anything about energy conservation, they disprove only exact modern official theory.
May be universe in whole conserve energy, may be not, but it is reasonable to use assumption that energy is always conserved in our practice. This is very helpful even for solving everyday problems.
We don't even know how antimatter interact with gravity, there was no single experiment set to study this question, we don't know if inertial mass is equal to gravitational mass, we don't know if a speed of light is really constant, but you want an answer to much bigger and further question about whole universe.
The problems you observe in modern science mostly are a result of abandoning a real scientific way, where every single theory statement should be proven in independent and replicateable way by real experiments. Today, mathematical masturbation almost replaced experimental research, so we hardly moved forward in studying world around us since 1970s.
Dark energy is peculiar because it's a deceitful epicycle attached to a failed theory to attempt to patch a hole in the theory.
Exactly. It does not even meant to be something real, it is just a dirty mathematical fix to make general relativity equations somehow correspond to real observations.
It is not a law, it is hypothesis for building theories. Ufortunately, in modern science this was limited to only one theory that put a severe constraints and limitations on any development of other theories.
Hypothesis of enregy conservation is perfectly valid, and there is no any problems with it. The problem is with modern single theory, that does not have place for any unknown energy conversions, so nobody study them.
Dark matter / dark energy is a crutch for modern theory invented in attempt to somehow fit experimental observations into the moderm theory that declared only correct one. It is just a mathematical "unknown" that mathematicians put on the one or another side of equation to make their equations look corresponding to observations.
General relativity equation turned from a theory into dogma, that is why everything observed had to be squizeed into this theory math at any cost, to not allow any doubts in dogma. "Eisnstein always right" regardless of what we observe in experiments.
So, energy conservation hypothesis just state that energy/matter can't appear from nowhere and disappear into nowhere. Einstein dogmas put hard constraints on the ways energy/matter could convert between different forms, so the only way to fit math with reality is to push inconsistency onto some "dark" thing, that just exist.
Throwing out Einstein dogmas we could easily imagine that there are just other energies / form of matter we didn't discovered yet and there are other undiscovered ways of conversion from known energy/matter forms to unknown forms. But since all research is directed only by Einshtein dogmas, there is no chance this possible ways and forms will ever be studied.
There are also mutiple other ways of how things could be in universe for real, from fractional dimentionalities, to just that constants declared as constants in modern theory are not really constants at all.
Energy conservation hypothesis is very useful for practical applications and nearly everything humanity invented is in one way or another use this hypothesis. So, I don't see any reasons to abandon it. And if energy/matter disappear into nothing or appear from nothing, I'll more likely suggest that we have to look for unknown forms of energy/matter, especially if there is no place for them in Einstein dogmas, than to fall into a trap of discarding perfectly working and practically useful energy conservation hypothesis.
But I don't think was about religion, it was about their Babylonian Magic money manipulation and their usury based banking.
It was both, and in addition also jews often tried accustom people around their settlement to drinking using poor quality alcohol, not even as a business but in order to eventually get hands on their property, something similar was attempted by them through Brits in China at much larger scale using opium.
And all that jewish behaviour have deep roots in their religion. Russian Empire at the time had many etnicities with different religions and different ways of life, but only those who practicise Judaism produced that many problems around.
Of course, Pale of Settlement wasn't best solution, but at least it noticeably delayed many negative processes that already happened inside many Western states.
Not directly. Of course Rothschilds are in it, but that's not as direct and straight as with Yukos, where Rothschild personally was a co-owner. IDK why he was so obsessed with personally owning part of Russian oil industry that he didn't use multiple proxies and investment funds as usual, but that allowed to punch him in his nose.
I mean direct destruction of Rothschilds family members, their personal property and all that stuff. Turning their personal life into hell. Some actions against some assets that owned through endless proxies hardly a big problem or challenge, I think Rothschilds acquire and lose such assets routinely, 24/7. Their personal property is completely another thing.
You approach to the question of religion from the very strange side, like it is some boring history book. But it is not. Religion is not just a sequence of some events, it is more like physics, but for spiritual world.
And no, history of Russian Orthodox Church is not some fairy tales, it is all perfectly documented through millenia, not only in written documents, but as towns and cities. Unlike some others, we keep our history through times. There was an attempt to erase it since 1917, but it was stopped around 1935, when Stalin finally took full power and almost exterminated Kaganovich when he tried to implement a plan that included destruction of Red Square and famous Church of Vasily Blessed. Unfortunately, Jews already destroyed Church of Christ the Saviour in 1931 as many other churches. But it was eventually restored.
That thing about second cheek, and love of enemy - you seem to be completely blind or have malicious intent, if you can't see that through all our history. This in no way mean unlimited obedience or endless restraint. This is a method to properly separate wheat from the chaff, good from bad, God's from Statan's. And it works perfectly for millenias.
Jews was weighted and separated from normal people two millenia ago. By Jesus, using the same things you try to use as a counter-argument. :) Nobody will ever turn a next cheek, the more so back to them. But they still have a chance to abandon Satan and deeply and sincerely repent for all their crimes, starting from killing God, and up to the last men they cheated with usury.
As I said earlier in this thread, I don't care who and when wrote "Zion Elders Protocols". Much more important that they correctly describe reality. Same with Jesus and Orthodox Christianity. I don't really care about all that "doubts" multiple antichristian shills bring. It works, and works good for me and my people for millenia. And no any "doubts" could change that.
Not my fucking business, really, but from outside it looks more like Trump needs a distraction from the question of Epstein files and names of his masters in them.