Yes, this digital factor is what's especially scary. They can concoct anything... For example, that we had a war with aliens in 80s. Sure, we know it didn't happen, because a lot of people still remember 80s and they know it's not true... but next generations won't and with enough determination I'm afraid it is indeed possible to make them believe it.
They'll have generated war footage in which people with mullets are fighting aliens while synth pop soundtrack is playing. There'll be a lot of eyewitness stories generated... and all the rest... Even if some 100 year old geezer who still remembers 80s will tell them that nothing of the sort happened, no one will believe him, because it'll be his word against tons and tons of digital information.
Yep, our history is full of lies. Probably even all of it... or little less than all of it. With AI and people living more and more in digital reality it could become even easier to fake it.
Creepy stuff. And it will get worse as people move to tech mediated communication more and more. We might end up in future where direct face to face communication becomes rare, something only old people do. In such a future everything becomes moldable. Reality itself becomes editable. Well, not real reality, of course, but what everyone believes is real.
Hell, even that guy on a podcast could not be real. Kind of a meta joke by the system. Podcast about bots narrated by a bot.
Well, it doesn't mean it's dead dead. It just means that it is much more emptier and much more managed than we think it is.
It's like when you google for something it shows some 1000000 results or so, but in reality there are just about few hundred results. At page 4 or 5 results start to repeat and eventually stop altogether. Basically, googling gives you only what google wants you to see. It's not an organic search.
It's an obscure Russian band. I doubt you'd know it.
Regarding your fourth point I agree absolutely. Books, hard drives... any local and decentralized way to store information is definitely a must. History is already being rewritten right before our eyes. Imagine what it will look in some 20, 30 or 50 years! It will be unrecognizable.
Yeah, sure, but my main point was that it's being injected into our reality as already happened. For example, Shakespeare might very vell be fake, but if you ask your parents or grandparents, they'll remember reading him in school. Fake or not, but he's been a thing since forever. Now, in case of retroactive fake, it would be that the internet is full of info how Shakespeare is a great author, his texts, articles about him and such, but in reality no one would remember reading him in school or anywhere else.
See, this molding of past was what got me thinking about it. Not just a fake, but a fake in time as well.
Yep, I woudn't be surprised to learn that a lot of what we see on TV is fake. Either pure AI or simply actors pretending to participate in those contests and such.
However, a very important aspect here is retroactivity. In your example, it would be like a homeless guy winning X Factor back in 2005 while in reality he didn't. Faking not only the guy himself, but the whole event which supposedly took place in the past. It would involve faking the guy, faking the winning and faking happy public celebrating his win, congratulatory comments and such.
I don't know if I'm explaining it well enough, but this retroactivity was a key aspect of my post. Not only fakeness itself, but the retroactive nature of it.
...they're likely testing their isolation software for when the real 'chaos' hits...
How could that help them? I mean, sure, from the TPTB point of view I clearly see the benefits of keeping the sheep in separate pens, but how exactly that could help this particular community?
I mean, what exactly does anyone think Q penetrated and disrupted?
It prevents any meaningful action. Also, it keeps those who could still actually resist into delusional state of thinkging that all that's happening somehow happens for good. Trump has betrayed every promise he has ever given, yet, blinded by the lies of Q his base still believes in him somehow.
About the closest any of the trolls can come to a justified analogy is that Q is meant to keep anyone from taking action.
Yes, that is exactly what Q is doing. Does it seem like not a big deal for you? The task of Q is to hold off those who could actually resist. Normies won't resist. Normies do not even need to be more brainwashed beyond the point they already are. Q is not for them. Q is for those that have broken out of mainstream web of lies... only to meet next web of lies.
I didn't watch the interview itself, but I think that "can't control" part is a psyop. They are really pushing this "we are building something and very soon it will go out of control" narrative pretty heavily.
The reason for this, in my view, is that they are preparing AI governance for the masses. More and more goyim do not believe in the lie of democracy anymore, so they have to come up with something new. That's where AI comes in. Stupid sheep have to believe that no one controls AI, just as they believed that no one controls democracy. Otherwise all this pyramid of lies and power comes crumbling down. They are forced to come up with new lies again and again in order to stay in control.
Could be. Although I'm not sure it's the only way. It could harm us by making us kill each other in, you know, manufactured wars, for example. It could harm us by convincing us to destroy our farming and livestock thus creating hunger. It also could harm us by creating economic crisis. There are many ways it can harm us, but all of those ways require human participation. It can't harm us directly.
It seems that even normies are not giving much shit about it. Probably deep down they too suspect it's fake. I haven't looked into this particular mission, but I have made some research on previous missions and I'm fairly certain that no one ever has been on the moon.
You do have a point, certainly... I'm just not sure that the right solution is to not talk or interact at all.
Like I mentioned in previous comment, there are people who have realized some truths, but for some strange reason can't recognize others. Many antivaxers who clearly saw through coronahoax now seem unable to fully comprehend the threat of tech, digital and AI. A lot of MAGA folks are like that. They sure as shit are against vaccines, but they happily lap up whatever Musk, Ellison or Thiel churns out. They don't see nothing wrong with Palantir, digital border surveillance and all that other shit. They also are more or less ok with an AI.
Other group are your average normies. They are not bad people. They just kind of drift along with the narrative. During covid they did not report anyone, they acted normal in private, they might not even fully believe the narrative... yet they still drifted along with it and when the tv said them to get the shots, they got the shots... It's quite sad, really... and I still can't fully wrap my head around how those people can live with such cognitive dissonance.
Sure, that's how they usually do it. Just like during covid when people were policing each other while destroying their own wealth, businesses and health. If they manage to get enough people to go along with their agenda, the rest of the process happens as if automatically by itself.
I see your point, but I suspect that those people do not think they're doing something wrong. They do not see AI in the same way as we do. For them it's just this new fun tool that makes things easier. Like spell checker.
The problem is that most people are unable to connect the dots and think in perspective. It's like they simply do not have this concept that A leads to B and B leads to C.
You can see this phenomena all around us. People treat each event, each technology, each media talking point just as single isolated entities, but they cannot connect them and make some kind of logical conclusions. Even if someone has managed to see through one particular lie it doesn't mean that they'll be able to see through the next one.
Could be. At the end of the day is it really that important whether it is all being driven by some kind of cabal or just an idea? It could be real people (or entities), making real plans... but it also could be something like an idea or a mind virus that has infected our civilisation. We can call it The System. The System does not work by itself. It has to have at least someone to make plans and supervise execution. So, I'd say it is not fully automated. The power pyramid exists. However, we might never know what is at the top of this pyramid. Is it some kind of supernatural being, Baal, Moloch, some powerful people, secret societies, or just an idea that is corrupting us from top to bottom?...
That said, Kaczynski was right. He might have chosen wrong methods to express his opinion, but in general he was right.
...unusual amount of "bee" symbolism that comes up...
Yes, they use this kind of symbolism in movies as well. If you pay attention there's a lot of beeswax type hexagonal pattern appearing in movies. Usually it's in the background, environment design, some logos and such. I mean it's rarely in your face, but it is very prevalent. Especially in modern movies.
Speaking of which, it seems that there are several such symbols and patterns that appear in movies and other media over and over again. Some call them markers or programming markers. Most visible ones are hexagons, globes, dinosaurs and (for some reason) stags with antlers.
Why do you write them emails and messages in the first place?
Because I'm not next to them or even in the same city as them at that moment. My point was that those are people I know in real life. I know that they are not bots, shills or whatever.
It plugs into transhumanism, which is to get people to behave as predictably as machines.
Yep, seems like it. Another detail here is that it makes everyone write in the same style, with same structure of sentences, using the same words and same definitions.
Most people already appear to think like machines...
True. This homogenisation of human thinking has been going on for a while now. I'm old enough to remember time before the internet and I can tell with certainty that people were much more original back then. Ways of thinking, of approaching things and viewing the world in general were much more varied back then.
If this continues, then the end result will be something closer to ant hill or bee colony than to human society as we know it. I guess that is precisely what they want to create.
Well, yeah, kind of, but people are at least being forced to think once in a while. Even if they don't want to. Now, if this borg thing continues, then at some point you'll be able (and even encouraged) to live your life without using your brain at all... and that is where our humanity stops and meatsack appendage existence begins.
Yeah, Mandela Effect is an interesting one. Most explanations involve some kind of simulation theory or even supernatural phenomena at play. Quantum Immortality, Parallel Universes and such. Your explanation is very down to earth in comparison. Could be. Who knows...
In any case, they can't fake everything. Not yet at least. Truth is the key. I agree.