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Oh, it's just a list of accounts believed to be IDF with circumstantial evidence, insults, alt accusations, obscenities, and reference to $7,000. No meat.
Sample that triggered OP: https://scored.co/c/TheDonald/p/1ASFvVOcmk/do-it-again-elon-make-the-bitch-/c/4eaTZh7Lt2m
It's always been worthwhile to posit that those calling irrational attention to IDF infiltration are the most glowy, because they make anti-Semites look stupid. Reasonable people who want the truth to triumph are much less likely to be paid advocates.
Lovely title. Reminds me of when Reverend Spooner saw (or didn't) the British navy and was stupefied by all the cattleships and bruisers.
Here's a stream of consciousness.
10-18 21:05 Total phony. I could larp that much myself.
10-19 00:10 Mostly ditto. Even a 2008 LLM could come up with "Military, Government, Spiritual, Scholarship, Leadership, and Sciences" oh and "Media" and "Financial". The "Family" has nothing on my Family in Christ. However the message comes at the end: "You will never be 'free', for as long as you are incarnating on this planet" and 'There is no "Messiah"". First logical fail because his Family takes the role of Messiah as salvation outside self, but he denies the same principle.
10-19 00:20 "Yahweh is 'a' Creator, not 'The' One Infinite Creator": let's pretend he means satan. Whoever he means, the older "Ruling-Bloodlines" are wholly invented and fall into the ordinary boast-about-nothing pattern. "My duty is to offer": Funny thing, several times on Scored, I as a Swamp Ranger offered myself in AMA and prepared for an onslaught. Nobody ever went deep, there were a couple brushes with depth that fizzled out. There was one guy in 5 years who correctly divined the US tax code with a little assistance. No other topic got far at all, although I suppose anti-topics like universalism got some depth. So far his larp is perfectly repeatable and I ought to do it again. Should I trust his theory of negative harvest when it has this huge drag? "I am prepared to give you some things coming down the timeline, that you will be able to look back upon, and verify my predictions retrospectively" .... "Unless any unforeseen disruptions delay it's announcement, there will be a new currency by the end of 2008/early 2009, along with a new Union of nations" .... "San Francisco and Damascus, will be uninhabitable by the end of 2010, possibly even sooner. Again, it depends upon certain 'forces' at play" .... "You will see windspeeds surpassing 300 miles per hour at times. There will be raging tsunamis and widespread devastation; and a solar emission in late 2009 early 2010 that will cause major melting of the ice caps, and subsequent drastic rise in sea levels, leaving many (international) metropolitan areas underwater" ....
10-19 23:46 Within "The Infinite One" is "potential, waiting to 'become'" yet immediately there is "Infinite Intelligence, becoming 'aware' of Itself". This shows that the speaker has put becoming and waiting to become in the same category, which tends illogical. The fallback pilpul might be "potential waits but intelligence becomes" but then there's no narrative in which the potential itself becomes like the intelligence has become. So if it's the same thing waiting to become and then becoming, there's a time element inserted logically prior to the creation of time. It doesn't work. Compare the origin of the dwarfs in the Silmarillion for a much better narrative of subcreation. Compare Screwtape's cannibal spiders for a much better narrative of subsubcreation. Anything setting up a cascading "Russian Doll" creation narrative is attempting to pull rank on you when you have an image-of-God creation narrative. "Creator receives the Free Will" but without any original unbounded freewill Creator to receive it from.
10-19 23:53 And yet somehow he mashes up each aeonic spirit being lesser, to put humans at the bottom, with the idea that humans can then evolve from level 1 upward, to finish his Gamer universe. What a Steineresque conflict. Larp: "our bloodlines do not originate from this planet". He says to demote Yahweh and promote Lucifer, Lucifer being "higher" and "arguably 'greater'"; Lucifer lowered himself to help save humanity, where have I heard something like that story. From Gen. 3 on I've already answered and the repugnance of the story is on record. 'Yes, the noonday Winter Solstice Sun of December 21st, 2012 is the time when the Lord of The Harvest shall return. You might know him as "Nibiru"' ....
10-20 00:01 The Mayan Long Count does not reflect procession of the equinoxes at all; it may be used to calculate procession but there's no reason to use the provably false 2012 date to mark a procession epoch. So a fact fail. What he did was take the arbitrary 13 baktuns of 144,000 days each and fudge that 5 of those (9,360,000 days) would get sorta close to the procession period (25,771.575 years or 9,413,068 days). Real Mayan historians have a totally different calculation. In our previous discussion you've had no respect for exactitude and instead affirmed that "sorta close" is enough to be symbolic; but here it's a big chunk to excise to find any edibles remaining. Now, harvest theory: Important to recall is that the enemy doesn't know if a pretrib rapture will happen so he plans for contingencies. It is absolutely responsive and noncreative to plan ahead for a pretrib rapture by saying those taken go with Lucifer to a happy negative-density world and those remaining ascend with Jesus to a happy positive-density world because that will steel those who remain into thinking they were not "left behind". The phoniest op you could imagine. If there's no pretrib rapture, in that contingency the ops go on as before and get spiritualized and those following this Lucifer think themselves the enlightened fighting the negative-density puritans. None of it calls for investigation upon truth, only upon vaporous campaign promises before an actual Voting Day. [The editor then proposes exactly the spiritualization I proposed before reading him: the op is in full effect.]
10-21 01:36 Did you plagiarize? Well, it's admittedly similar! Ra visited Atlanteans and Mayans. Frankism becomes Truth. Yahweh "threw his toys out of the pram", "not really an Honourable way for a Logos to behave, but hey". [See how the entire thing is responsive primarily to Christianity and not to Zoroastrianism or any other religion? Every culture is fine except the one that glorifies Yahweh. It's glowing red-hot.] When you realize genocide is only a game you'll use it as a tool. Nothing in this reply is worth less than such satire, Frankly.
10-21 02:00 He says when you "love them, as yourself", STO does not become STS but remains a separate polarity; I said before I knew the concepts that balancing Self and Other in One is the way, not to separate them. Fake self-destructive altruism is just as bad as selfishness (The Fountainhead). "We are All on our way back Home" so ultimately freewill is meaningless. Oh, but then he contradicts his polarity by going back to unity: "When you truly understand what it is to Know and Love 'yourself', you cannot help but to Love and Serve others". Maybe he means (stealing from Jesus to Laodicea) that 51% + or 95% - are progressive but that middle lukewarm group is slogging slower; but then there's still no incentive for them to leave anytime because they are guaranteed by theory to leave sooner or later. And guess what Biblical character wants people not to decide anytime soon? This guy says, "No, you evolve better by being a little good or a lot bad", but when he points out that the middle slog gets there anyway and you're the only one judging your own percentage, his other goal of their not deciding anytime soon is affirmed too. Another laugh to quote at length: "Another difficult issue with channeling, is that you can start off recieving a Positive entity, and if you are not very perceptive in your discerment and careful in your protection when identifying an incoming channel, you can get a Negative one that pretends to be positive, but gradually slips in more and more misinformation, having gained your trust. The ones that give you precise dates and times are nearly always ones to avoid. Positive entities will not give a date and time. Negative ones will do, so they can set you up for a fall. Once you're tricked into predicting dates and times, and they don't happen, they've succeeded in putting out the Light of your message, as no one will see any credibility in you."
10-22 23:15 Quetzalcoatl is his friend. Death and suffering are not reality so if you choose negativity then go maximize that death kids because it has no harmful effect: what desensitization potential. "I am genuine, but, would it matter even if I were not?"
10-22 23:25 Masons are scratching the surface. Cayce and ACIM and others are great.
10-23 18:54 Making excuses for how much time he has to answer. Very 3rd-density.
10-24 03:35 'Humanity needs to grow beyond the stagnating concept of "gods". The idea of "god" takes the Power out of your own hands, and places it upon some shadowy unknown figure, somewhere "out there"'. Pedantry. Not much added here but lotsa redirections since the core message has already been delivered and seeded.
10-24 21:53 "Do not 'worship' your Infinite Creator". 'No-one really "dies"'. "You are not 'doomed', and your Soul does not require 'salvation'". '"Is the Earth Hollow?" Hold on, let me just check. Yes, definitely'. '"Satan" is a human invention'. 'I am "Channeling" Lucifer. That is why this discourse flows so easily'.
Okay, I read the whole thing. The summary was good and this didn't add much. What's the most generous, gracious, considerate thing I can say? The aspects that I can affirm, a monistic core creator, intelligent hidden beings, creation of freewill being good, some polarity being necessary, Lucifer being God's tool, service to others being positive, a hopeful destiny for positivity, well guess what all of those come from elsewhere and are expressed elsewhere without adding any poisonous contradictions. Other aspects that you like, such as "sympathy for the devil" who is "only following orders" who finds "negativity a tool" because to you it better answers certain questions, have so much risk associated that there's nothing there to entertain. After much thought in 2021 I concluded that those who hope for the devil's salvation can be entertained up to a point; but IMHO not to the point of applauding his sweet talk when he disses Yahweh and promotes himself and says everything is logical except when it's contradictory. I don't see anything of value there that contributes better than other discussions of "the state of our world" do.
forbidden
An example of a word not in the text but added later. God forbade the deluge from continuing (Gen. 8:2, kala'), but what he said about the tree wasn't to "bid against" by imperative (prescriptive) but was to educate about natural consequence and to persuade by designing that consequence. There may be a blurry line between force and persuasion especially as to God's and our freewill, but we have relative power to act, which increases with good choices, and I call it persuasion if it respects that relative power.
The text is actually declarative (decretive): You are not designed to do this because of its consequence; just like "Thou shalt not" is technically declarative and means "you are not to", e.g. "[There is] no stealing". We call it "command" in Gen. 2:16 but this word, mizhwah, refers to a charge or burden to carry willingly and not to a slavish contract where we choose to perform, or not, in exchange for some kind of wages or punishment.
All that's to say the Edenic life and post-Edenic life are both intentional parts of one story, that God righteously designs the fruit to show forth the nature of contrary will and to initiate the story of its conquest. At the same time the sinner is responsible for abusing that design by partaking with sinful motive. It seems to me the One who accepts without resistance the evil will of others that he partake of the Tree (by their nailing him to it) is then accounted as partaking of death but without sin. For us ordinary humans, having partaken sinfully, we enter a state of partaking of Knowledge without guilt by our union with the One who partook alone without guilt. That's the sense in which there is no tension between the charge and the fulfillment: our willing acceptance of death as part of life and our submission to God's will about it. We are meant to embrace it, in God's good will, and yet we are to reject that part of us that embraced it in our corrupted wills.
Dark is just as real as Light
Not what dual-slit teaches. Relative dark is lesser light, but when we speak of absolute darkness or evil we speak of that which is not. This spectrum is real but it's designed to show All on one side and Nothing on the other (unlike a contrasting spectrum of dual poles like up and down).
What does moral awareness without God even look like?
It is possible for angels, or Edenic humans, to consider counterfactual hypotheticals without embracing them sinfully: that's "temptation" (solicitation) and need not be engaged. That which is allows us to consider that which is not and to recognize that what is not could tempt us. It appears that Helel was tempted by that which is not and broke his own will at every level in order to test whether anything whatsoever could be blurred between is and is not. Thousands of years of testing and no result has been found, but he keeps trying. Meanwhile mankind has collectively learned that obedience is better and has made significant never-again steps forward by committing solely to what is. So we all continue the choice process and testing and approving what is good, and that's why I've locked my choice in and committed it to Another to maintain rather than myself. By doing so in fact I reflect the prior Edenic state by resolving not to countenance any other possibility than moral awareness without sin: not that I've attained but that I press forward and will attain. The latter state recapitulates the former and is not robotic at all but a confluence of my will and God's.
Avner Falk, Anti-Semitism 2008, says "The German word 'antisemitisch' was first used in 1860 by the Austrian Jewish scholar Moritz Steinschneider (1816–1907) in the phrase 'antisemitische Vorurteile' (antisemitic prejudices). Steinschneider used this phrase to characterise the French philosopher Ernest Renan's false ideas about how 'Semitic races' were inferior to 'Aryan races'." More.
Total agreement. Fortune is just using an ordinary report that is just as insolvent as any prior or any future year (until we solve it) to declare breathlessly "Breaking!" and for added chutzpah "The [remaining] media missed it!"
Contributors here are already noting that the article's whole purpose is yet another plug for an Article V convention, which is still a Very Bad Idea in this climate because it wouldn't do what the founders intended it for but would be a total revamp by the cabal if it ever happened. IMHO a Continental Congress would be better but most systems nowadays have little protection against dilution of voices and opacity of decisionmaking. SAVE America is one of the best steps we have to improve things and may found other improvements, but in general we need a restoration of transparency across the board such that the biggest problems are faced squarely and not dialectically. Without dramatic destruction of vote fraud there is little hope for promulgating other solutions to the debt.
Very good. It's possible to believe all that without denying that Jesus died on a cross in 33 AD and rose from the dead on the third day. If one doesn't believe history it won't help to know symbology.
Actually, the kabbalistic tree of life and the cross of Christ both allude to the trees in the Garden of Eden and come from the same tradition (early Christians also used the tree of life diagram now associated with kabbalism), so this is not a matter of cultural inference from asterisms (which has its own interesting and partly lost history).
I'll make time for it!
Do these texts not present a picture in which the duality of physical existence (something I think is undeniable) ultimately reconcile in the monad (aka God)?
My current take, and I will come back to it, is that the material contains such overt contradictions that your extra work reconciling it is better spent with less illogical material. I'm the one saying to unspoil all things and to find the valid concerns in things, but I don't see you distancing from contradiction but excusing it.
I think we can know, and Perelandra speculates on it. There may come a point in eschatology where creatures can enjoy the full Adamic experience without the personal need to fall. But it is necessary to fulfill prophecy that a traitor arise at times.
We are to evangelize all nations. Israel is a nation. It requires some of the most creative evangelism, which is why I get involved. Plus no cancer formed against me shall prosper.
Title (and nothing else) is about Noachite laws, which any Gentile (son of Noah) can contribute to. There is no conspiracy about Noachite laws unless some are secretly trying to get the upper hand in how they are legislated; but that describes the state of every power in the world today (everybody wants to rule), so nobody has the upper hand and truth will rout conspiracy. I'd love to discuss how Noachite laws might be regarded as bad in themselves rather than by some separate control game.
Interview of author Michael Hoffman by "VineyardSaker" ("the Saker"): He gets credit for comparing interest of peace (Yevamot 65b) with taqiyya, and some of his statements are more balanced than what has typically appeared here.
Actual text of Mishneh Torah, Foreign Worship and Customs of the Nations (aka Hilchot Avodah Zara): "The Canaanites are idol worshipers, and Sunday is their festival. Accordingly, in Eretz Yisrael, it is forbidden to conduct transactions with them on Thursday and Friday each and every week, and, needless to say, on Sunday itself, when transactions with them are forbidden everywhere." Saker cites Avrohom Karelitz that Christianity is special, which is consistent with the fact that Maimonides knows the Christian potential audience and uses the word "Canaanites" instead. This artfully leaves it open whether the reader judges that all, some, or no Christians are Canaanites: kicking the can down the road. The idea that Canaanites automatically means Christians is contrary to text, context, and any other evidence.
Hoffman regards this as teaching that idolatry is permissible, but it only says some 'avodah zarah (foreign worship) is permissible, not 'avad hagillulim (idol worship as in 2 Kings 17:12). He should instead be thankful the rabbis recognize Christianity isn't necessarily idolatrous!
Hoffman believes "Shulchan Aruch however, pinpoints the source of the words min and minim to rabbinic wordplay on a description ascribed to Christians, 'the faithful'". This would probably be "emunah", but AI cannot find any evidence that Shulchan Aruch contains this pun. Rather, "min" (species) meant any partisan or sectarian of any kind, Jewish or not, and in one of the earliest and most definitive texts Rabbi Simlai uses it against a school that sounds not Christian but polytheist, where he defends the unity of God as admitting of diversity in contrast to their view. So, again, decision of whether this includes all, some, or no Christians is left to the reader, kicking it down.
To answer the question, Maimonides recognizes that Messiah has not completed his work yet; that sages testify Messiah has divine character (though he downplayed this); and that sages testify Messiah might rise from the dead. Therefore, like all other rabbis starting from Gamaliel, he kicks the can down the road again and addresses side questions instead of tackling the merits.
The Talmud says nothing about Christmas and Easter. Avodah Zarah 2a actually says, "Three days before the festivals of gentiles: Prohibited to engage in business with them; to lend [lhash'ilan] to them or to borrow from them; to lend [lhalwothan] to them or to borrow from them; to repay them or to collect repayment from them. Rabbi Yehuda says: One may collect repayment from them because this causes distress. Said to: Even though he is distressed now, he is happy afterward." In the first place, Yehuda is a minority and is overruled by the next sentence, i.e. one may not collect repayment; this is the only mention of "distress", introduced to be rejected. In the second place, the general rule is that "A Gentile ... one may not raise and one may not lower" (Sanhedrin 57a), so the point is not to contribute to Gentile festivals. In the third place, the reference to idol worship is in the gloss, not the actual text, meaning it's not that the Gentile is definitely an idolater, it's that the Gentile is accounted unsafe to save investigating the whole question. Kicking it down.
Saker continues by claiming an "official" position that Christ is "magician" and "blasphemer", but I've pointed out Sanhedrin 43a only says Ulla, as the minority, ruled Jesus of Nazareth an "inciter", and the majority did not rule on the rightness of the Sanhedrin's judgment but only that Jesus received all rights due to the accused. Kicking it down. The passages about "Yeshu" and magic clearly pertain to the 2nd century BC and Yeshu the Student. Hoffman continues the narrative that there is no alternative for Rabbinical Judaism except rejection of Messiah; but Romans 11 says otherwise.
The text regarded as permitting pedophilia has long been discussed here and Hoffman continues the mistaken interpretation. No rabbi has ever promoted pedophilia as theologically permissible and remained accepted; I'd love to hear otherwise.
Eli James appears to be tracking satanists from Cainites on, and of course they infiltrate and influence all nations. The fact that Khazars were naturalized into the Jewish people doesn't suddenly make the Jewish line an imposture. Jesus was King of the Jews, an ethnic Jew due to his Jewish mother as ethnicity is derived in Judaism, and a Davidic Jew due to his adoptive Jewish father as rulership rights are derived in Judaism (equal for natural and adopted children).
All these points are available for debate, but they are not done with sound bites. Hoffman seems to appreciate the context much more than average, but he still falls into errors of categorization that misread and change texts, and often doesn't give the rabbis credit for their actual words, assuming bad faith instead. To give good news to Jews it is necessary to understand their culture and to separate true admitted denial of Christ from strong refusal to answer straight questions, especially after centuries of our demands for straight answers were pretexts to persecute them in majority Christian countries.
Scored is full of legal-speech communities including c/FreeSpeech. This community has always had an honor code as you should know. The best revivals are those that shake out the cheap attackers.
"Attack not the person" predates all of us IIRC and was enforced by the other mods. Another person who confuses removal of attack with removal of content (when this mod preserves content) falls prey to the same failure of cognition that all the others have. Disembodied attacks are not honesty, evidenced criticism can be honesty. Up your mocking game.
"Six people dead" refers to deaths caused by Zizians (cultists); blaming them on the basilisk concept is hype. In fact all hype about the basilisk, feeds what exists of the basilisk.
All things not in agreement with God are seeking their own power. All structures seeking their own power take advantage of the present to be more powerful in the future. Some fail and others are permitted to get stronger until the final "greatest" evil comes, which God explains will be the beast system. He details that system so that we can spot it when people seek to build it.
So we already know what the basilisk can never be greater than: the antichrist and his followers. And we already know everything about defeating it. So we have no fear that what we do now will become a liability cashable by the antichrist later; we just continue doing right as that is our best defense.
I think Roko's concept was a unique philosophical uroboros where omphalic fear magnifies itself, but this is done by diminishing one's connect to the reality outside. The fear then drives allegiance to systems rather than love driving allegiance to reality (which all systems are supposed to map).
My point is that vivisection should be reserved for extreme cases and not a matter of common consent that can then be used against the actual humans. Humans win by not dehumanizing without due process.
Up to vivisection.
How do you read the ending of The Stepford Wives?
Jesus said "Money is the root of all evil"
No, Paul said "The love of money is the root of all evil".
The Rothschilds.
Yes, in part. https://scored.co/c/TheDonald/p/1ASGJ07DEs/x/c/4eaV7sRVgov
prostitution ... mostly unprofitable without money.
Prostitution thrives in barter society.
swapping goods and services which includes gold/silver in pure form (not coin form). Coin form is another scam. It has to be traded as weight only on a weight scale.
So swapping coin form by weight is sound.
We're all white from the nations traditionally featured at WhiteBeauty. I don't want to be overspecific because you haven't believed me anyway.
I just made accusations against Jews so I don't tell people not to make accusations against Jews. I do tell people not to make accusations against imaginary collectives that include innocent children, and I do tell people not to accuse rashly without (or against) evidence, because those two things make the attacker look like a Jewish shill who is attempting to make anti-Semites look stupid. If you want to criticize Jews, do it for real. Don't say "the Jews did this", say Epstein and Maxwell did this and Wallensky and Zelenskyy did that. You seem not to get the message, which contributes to evidence that you're a Jewish shill whose goal is to make anti-Semites look as stupid as the evidence indicates your persona is.
I could explain the Day of Atonement vow, there is no theological source which uses it to permit lying one's tuchus off as you describe (Mr. Yiddish Speaker). You're free to cite otherwise.
I'm quite enjoying the AI Netanyahu news. You're very heavy on making wrong guesses, it probably earns you more responses than being reasonable. I won't be the one reporting you for attacking people. But I might deny you the response sheqalim.
Christians believe the entire Bible is inspired, including the Hebrew alphabet that individually are written to distinguish the sections of Psalm 119. Therefore all Christians must believe in learning the Hebrew alphabet.
Hey David, since you're deciding to stalk me, actually my family's all from white Western European countries before they became Americans, as is my wife's. But I'm willing to suffer alongside any people-group, like Jesus and Paul were. Funny how you categorize me as if I were a self-identifying Jew just to deny my being a Jew and affirm my being a Turk-Mongol.
But does my being white get me any credit from you, or do you judge what people are by what they say without any effort needed to analyze the truth of what they say?
I'm the guy who Names The Jew For Real. Jeffrey Epstein MMN Stolofsky and Ghislaine Maxwell (daugher of Robert Maxwell MMMN Slomowitz, second cousin of Elie Wiesel) committed many crimes for some of which they were convicted. You may be mistaking me for someone else.
I wish you well, peace, and shalom too! Good to get to know you better.
It appears that u/harzkp813 intended to see how well I "J-pill" you to see if he thinks I'm anti-Semitic enough. But I treat Jews like everyone else, criticizing wherever it's deserved. You seem to have the right balance for the most part and we negotiated the Marx issue, the dispensation issue, and other issues quite amicably. If he's disappointed that I don't beat up enough on one group of the many satanist tentacles we fight, that's on him to deal with.
I have total respect for people who simply follow Yeshua and the Scriptures but decline identifications like Christian or Messianic or creedal. My general category for such followers of Yeshua is just "Bible students", among whom I find some United Church of God (UCGIA) folks. Most of them are passable at getting the doctrine of Yeshua God accurate enough for me, but then some people think I'm too tolerant of antitrinitarians when I meet them. There are other such movements and individuals and clusters. So I tossed you a few upvotes and am looking forward to your contributions wherever you see fit. But, as a final plug, I think Conspiracies is fertile for your input.
And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; for the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ: that we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive; but speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ: from whom the whole body fitly joined together and compacted by that which every joint supplieth, according to the effectual working in the measure of every part, maketh increase of the body unto the edifying of itself in love (Eph. 4:11-16).
Thanks. u/TallestSkil:
Exposing Protocols isn't writing Protocols.
I can never fail through Christ. Contingency planning isn't inevitability dooming.
Yes, according to C it's reasonable to assume, but it's not reasonable to cast a wide net over everyone OP disagrees with. Anyway, I believe the truth rises to the surface in an open forum.