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Primate98 1 point ago +1 / -0

The counterevidence is that these cartels never go after one another. None covet what any of the others possesses. Parents and children will go after one another, husbands and wives, best friends of long standing, but not gigantic criminal enterprises?

The hydra has any number of heads one chooses to count, but one single body to which they are all attached. We should be talking about that body. Toby does not seem to have noticed a body at all.

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Primate98 2 points ago +3 / -1

For anyone interested in trying to discern the deep game being played here, as to why Trump would do such a thing when he wouldn't speak about it before, there's a reason: it would have been counter-productive. I will probably need to explain, but will try to keep it brief....

Most of the population are NPCs. As such, their "truth" comes from those that they consider "authorities": political officeholders, fancy people on TV, priests and prelates, and so forth.

During the entire COVID nightmare, the FDA etc. was firmly held by the Deep State. As the "authorities", they said that "vaxx = good". Thus, for most of the population, conservative or progressive, "vaxx = good" and that was the end of the story. Note clearly that I have not mentioned any facts or reasoning because such things are not generally relevant in this situation.

So what if Trump had contradicted them? He might as well have told everyone that they were adopted, and that their real parents were aliens. It would have just been a giant shitstorm, and greatly divisive.

The plan for 2024 that was developed somewhere along the line was "too big to rig". Division would yield the opposite of that. So while not admitting much one way or the other, he had to let it go in pursuit of the more ambitious goal.

For those now mentally objecting that people died because of this, perhaps that's true. But to be blunt and adult about it, we can note that any general that takes as an objective the preservation of the life of every soldier will certainly lose every war.

So now the Deep State is being cleaned out and Trump has taken control of the "authority", namely the FDA. They can now take the proper action and outlaw these poisons, and the NPCs, conservative and progressive, will accept it as "the truth".

Finally, for those who are mentally objecting that--if this was all the case--why would he not explain this to everyone? I would dare you to explain it to one single other person. You already said that you yourself were mentally objecting to it, right? There really isn't much point to explaining anything to anyone, ever.

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Primate98 2 points ago +2 / -0

It's really a general thing with the control systems on modern aircraft. You see the details of the complexity of any aspect and think, "This cannot possibly be the best way to design this, no way, not after this many decades." Oh, and they're all different brand to brand and airframe to airframe. Pure insanity.

It's really seeing how the sausage is made. Best not to know!

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Primate98 3 points ago +3 / -0

(I hate to say it but) ackshually the question has been around for probably well over a decade, so long that I can't recall exactly. It must have been around 2013 and I was researching whether the 911 planes could have been remote hijacked.

(There were no planes that crashed that day so the point ultimately turns out to be moot, but that's a story for another day. Anyway....)

I came across a video at the time talking about the capabilities of autopilot systems. I confirmed that, yes, they were entirely capable of flying a jetliner on any normal commercial route. Thus, if you could control the autopilot remotely, you could fly anywhere you liked.

What I was surprised to hear them say was that autopilots were capable even at that time not only of operating the aircraft mid-journey, but entirely from gate to gate. Impressive, really, and the point is that "AI" was not mentioned and has nothing to do with this question.

The real issue then and now is as posed at the top of the video: no one wants to board a plane, glance to their left, and see an empty cockpit. Or one without controls. Or one just with seats for people that like to ride up front on a roller coaster.

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Primate98 2 points ago +2 / -0

If there's one thing that's worse than using TikTok for search, asking a chatbot for the truth would be it.

Someone (I think it was John Dvorak from No Agenda) asked one of them, "When did James Kirk become a commodore?". He got some answer. Then he asked the exact same question again and got a different answer. Then he asked again and got yet a third answer. No human would ever do such a thing, ever.

I mean, I thought Flat Earth was the most audacious psyop to date, but this whole "AI = superior electronic intelligence" is far worse and far more dangerous.

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Primate98 2 points ago +2 / -0

Frankly, it's shocking to me how manipulated search engines are these days. With all the monkeying around, the results between Google, Bing and DDG are all over the board.

Yandex is coming on strong in market-share, but it's still spotty which I think is just due to normal development issues.

The really bad part of all this is that very, very few people are aware of any of it. Whatever comes up in their search engine of choice is "the truth".

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Primate98 3 points ago +3 / -0

Well, if would be a pretty rough thing if that's the way it went, but that may be part of the plan as well.

On the one hand, as far as people "waiting for Trump to do something about it" are concerned, it puts the matter to rest even if they don't take him up on the offer. "They made their choice, and if that's what they want then the US is not going to go against their will."

As far as everyone that wants the Palestinians ethnically cleansed, Trump is already a historical hero, the Cyrus of the Modern Age or whatever. He's now by far the most popular politician in Israel, and that's worth quite a lot.

That brings up the final, hidden element: I think Trump is predicting that the "Jewish state" is in the process of falling apart. We're overdue on Kissinger's prediction. The war was far worse militarily than they have admitted, and what happens when, now that the dust has settled, word of the 10/7 false flag and what really went on with the hostages starts to emerge?

If Trump can get the Palestinians out of harm's way while Israel implodes, they can move back in and we can all move on. If the Palestinians stay, Israel will rearm and manufacture another pretext to kill the other half in just a few years.

Meantime, all the Arabs (and Russia) come out against the plan and prove they really don't give a shit about the Palestinians, supporting them in making their final point on the way to martyrdom and the end of the problem.

The oddest thing about all this is that conspiracy theorists are at their proudest calling out Trump as a shabbos goy, but in reality we can see that he's the only one that actually cares about keeping the Palestinians alive. What an irony.

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Primate98 4 points ago +7 / -3

I think Ian is on the right track with this kind of analysis.

Everyone seems to believe the plan is something like, "Get rid of the Palestinians, hand Gaza over to Israel." As currently stated, the plan is something like, "Give the Palestinians a place to live, hand Gaza over to America." That's a world of difference.

If a big Zio plan is being executed by big Zio Trump for Israel to take over the whole place, how does it end with Israel having a lesser or no hold on Gaza? Also, I would imagine it would have quite a number of Americans in it who are notoriously prickly about foreigners fucking with whatever is considered America.

Pretty big oversight by the Zios and people who think this is the plan.

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Primate98 2 points ago +2 / -0

It's funny, what you say, because it made me think of what I heard about the very deep etymology of the word "science". It turns out to be same as the word "shit". I get that science is shitty these days, but it's a bit puzzling, right?

It turns out that the fundamental idea behind both is "separation", particularly separating out that which you do not want. In this light it makes perfect sense.

So the work of science is not finding "the answer", it's identifying and separating out that which you can show is not the answer. I see that as very much what the work of any real researcher should be.

I figure that if you metaphorically get out the pick and shovel and chainsaw and scalpel, you can work to clear away all those things that obscure the truth, and thereby make it plain for everyone to see (for those that want to see, that is).

I specifically use the word "work" to describe this, which aside from any other issue is why you see so little of it. Back to work then....

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Primate98 2 points ago +2 / -0

Thanks for asking, I very much appreciate the interest!

As far as trying to get a handle on the subject in it's most general form, I'd say you have to break it down into several topics. You have to study them separately, and you can often see that the first thing "They" want to do is mix them together, of course.

The first topic would be: are there aliens? Yes, most assuredly, at least one species anyway, the Anunnaki. I could probably write three books just with the little research I've done. All the current researchers are spewing bullshit. Even Mauro Biglino was "turned" just a couple of years ago.

The only intersection with the "UFO phenomenon" is when they talk about UFOs in the Bible. Turns out the Bible was about the Anunnaki and they had both aircraft and spacecraft. The people at the time had no idea what they were seeing. Today, they try to flip it all around and convince us Little Green Men in saucers were in the Bible.

The second topic would be what we might call the "UFO canon": all the famous incidents and all the prominent Ufologists. The canon is completely riven with the Salem Witches, as I call them. Thus all the books and researchers basing their work on any of this is totally polluted and worthless. My recent posts are essentially documenting this.

It's a gigantic psyop, with liars and dupes absolutely filling the innerwebz and podwaves. When you subtract it all out as untrustworthy from the subject of UFOs, you really don't have a lot left.

The almost final topic is that residue, though, and we return back to the work of what we might call real Ufology. What do we make of the lights in the sky and stories of alien encounters? I infer that almost all of this is another hoax, while admitting I can't say how it's perpetrated.

Take the lights in the sky. If aliens don't care if we see them, why don't they fly around during the day? If they do care, why do they have lights at all? Why are the exact characteristics of the lights so incredibly varied? How many types of alien craft are we supposed to believe there are?

More interesting are the tales of close encounters. Subtract out the liars and kooks and you still have a lot of people that absolutely believe what they're saying. An intriguing aspect is that even the ones you know did not experience what they say they experienced seem to totally believe it. And again, there is an infinite variety of discrepant details. Further, there is the simple fact of how absolutely convinced these experiencers are of their experiences. That is not what we should expect.

Suppose you walked outside and saw a pink elephant flapping its big ears and sailing by through the air. Would you tell people there was definitely a pink elephant? Of course not. As a sane person, you might say, "I'm aware of how crazy it sounds. All I can tell you is what it looked like to me, and that it seemed very real." UFO witnesses never have such reservations.

That reasoning leads me to this wild speculation: does the gubmint have some sort of mind ray they hit people with from time to time to induce a type of hallucination?

Sounds crazy but I will give an analogy. Suppose they had a mind ray that could make you think of a "car". Well, although very similar, the details of a "car" you would create in your mind would be different than the ones I would conjure. The same goes for "policeman". It makes me wonder, is there some unknown mechanism to cause people to see (ie, experience as 100% real) "flying saucers" and "aliens"?

So the actual final topic is this: is there a residue of the residue, and if so, what do we do with it? Actually, it beats me! Whatever it is, though, is by this point incredibly small.

My focus has been on the second topic, a project in documentation. I mean, it's right there for all to see, all the elements universally accepted as fact, and I'm just arranging and presenting them in a certain way. It doesn't get more straightforward than that.

Even that simple project may be--I must admit to myself--literally beyond human comprehension. It's incredibly difficult for people to accept and integrate into their worldview that they have been deceived so completely. It's too much. People would absolutely prefer to listen to campfire tales about boogeymen and spooky goings-on.

Well, this sure ended up long! But now you know exactly where I'm at and why I'm doing what I'm doing. It is indeed very lonely. I have come to understand that to be the indelible mark on a seeker of truth.

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Primate98 1 point ago +1 / -0

Somebody posted about this very issue on r/conspiracy just yesterday:

Huge Difference in Altitude readings Between BlackHawk and CRJ Eagle at moment of collision. H=200 ft. vs, E=325 ft.

You can see everyone's take there, and my comment was:

I would surmise that PAT flights never exceed 200' as a hard ceiling for safety from MANPADs, even if there was not other air traffic.

Since the remote hijacker had to take it above that to intersect the jet, they've got to cover up this damning element, or at least try to stir up a cloud of haze around it so no one thinks about it too much.

Trump commented right away that the helo was way too high, so he already knows what went down. It's pointless for him to say much more about it and he hasn't.

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Primate98 5 points ago +5 / -0

There's something everyone should be aware of concerning Elizondo and the various others that have cropped up to tell us all the secrets about UFOs--excuse me, "UAPs".

They're all promoted by "journalist" Leslie Kean, and it turns out she's not some rando nobody. Just using Wikipedia, you can trace her ancestry back to John Kean (South Carolina politician):

John Kean (1756 – May 4, 1795) was an American merchant, banker and member of the Continental Congress from South Carolina who was the first in a long line of American politicians.

His wife was Susan Livingston, and she was a member of the Livingston family. Yes, they have their own wiki page.

John's stepfather was Captain Samuel Grove, "a wealthy and successful merchant". I never checked it out, but I suspect he's related to General Leslie Groves, who ran the Manhattan project, and whose ancestor was at the Salem Witch Trials.

Everyone is free to believe whatever they wish to from this source.

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Primate98 3 points ago +3 / -0

If you didn't notice, a lot of it was mine, and I didn't mention me either. Nice try at reading comprehension, though! Keep it up!

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Primate98 2 points ago +2 / -0

Haha, I'll roll the dice! But I found something fascinating at that link. I never followed the Q stuff at all, but....

I'm very far behind and have been very uninspired lately, but I have collected research for a post that concerned Kenneth Arnold, DB Cooper, the Space Shuttle Challenger, the Maury Island UFO Incident, and several other topics. Long story, as you may imagine.

One of the elements was that incredibly odd "Horizon Air Q400 incident" back in 2018. Among other things, the nighttime video of the widespread fires in the area looked like a missile strike, which fits my thesis about that region being a certain kind of Elite "stronghold".

Lo and behold, at that link you included, I come to find that Q thought the very same thing in 1846:

Autists catch the message? Think missile. Do you believe in coincidences?

The answer is no, I pretty much do not believe in coincidences any more... lol

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Primate98 2 points ago +2 / -0

I can agree completely with the corrupted shithole part. The question is: is it the least corrupted shithole available? More importantly, are there any lesser corrupted, not-as-bad-shitholes available?

I ask this in earnest. The Higherside Chats is--regardless of anyone's opinion of the content--one of the highest-profile conspiracy podcasts out there, and there was a very recent interview with the founder of Saidit, which is quite similar to this current forum in many ways.

I got very excited by the long discussion with Magnora 7, signed up, and put up a rewrite of my "roswell salem witch trials" post. After two days, neither upvotes nor downvotes, and only two brief comments: one an incredibly low-effort troll post and the other some bot-generated non-sequitur.

So it's not "Dead Internet" (which is just more false dialectic bullshit) but it's far closer than I ever imagined.

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Primate98 3 points ago +3 / -0

I think it would be hilarious if this was the setup for an announcement from Trump:

"Due to the dire threat of alien invasion, I have concluded treaties of peace and alliance with Russia, China, Iran, North Korea, and many other countries as we must all prepare to face this danger. Since warmongering between nations exposes all human society to danger, it is now a capital crime."

Then you could turn on MSNBC to hear, "Whoa whoa whoa! We're going back to UFOs are bullshit."

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Primate98 2 points ago +2 / -0

Thanks for the support! They say the world is stranger than you can believe, but you never expect to actually find that out in Wikipedia.

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Primate98 2 points ago +2 / -0

Before I started writing it, I thought, "Jeez, this Hoyt Vandenberg is a boring guy but he's definitely 'in', and I gotta document it with a brief post for the sake of completeness."

Well, you know how long it turned out, so the lesson is you never know what you're going to find until you look, which--as you say--apparently no one does... lol

Thanks for the support! More to come!

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Primate98 2 points ago +2 / -0

Being socialists, they declare that this is everybody else's fault, and demand that therefore everybody else should fix the problem and pay for it.

... [the management] said as it called for the local authorities to find a housing solution for the occupiers.

It has called for the government to deal with the problem, but President Macron's centrist cabinet is said to have ignored the request and is reluctant to get involved in the debacle.

The theatre's income model - which is 70 per cent based on ticket sales and 30 per cent on subsidies - has collapsed.

As Margaret Thatcher told us so long ago, "The problem with Socialism is eventually you run out of other people's money."

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Primate98 2 points ago +2 / -0

Oh yeah, They can and do make up crazy shit all the time. You wonder how They could get away with all this, but you want to know what the secret really is? No one's looking.

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Primate98 2 points ago +2 / -0

That turns out to be part of the process, where your "radar" gets activated to things you never saw before.

And your reference reminds me of a show called Drunk History that went off the air a few years ago. I thought it was the funniest show on TV for a while. If you haven't seen it, it's well worth looking up a couple of segments on YT.

After I became familiar with all the historical fakery, I started to recognize that one or even two of the three segments were about these operations, like Patty Hearst (hoax) and Harriett Tubman (intel operative). I finally realized, "Oh, that's why the show is on, to keep selling these phony narratives to people."

If you research it, one of the show's executive producers was Will Ferrell. You may remember him from the pics where he's attending those weird-ass Hollywood spirit cooking parties or whatever they are.

The other executive producer was Adam McKay. Guess where he was born? Denver! You cannot make this shit up. Then he was raised in Worcester, Mass. I've only alluded to it because there's been so much else to write up, but these generational Satanists were all over the American Revolution. Boston was, of course, too hot during the war, so it turns out it was run mainly out of (you got it) Worcester. Whaddaya know.

Seriously, see why I have so much trouble getting all this written up? Way too much material!... lol

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Primate98 2 points ago +2 / -0

Thank you very much for the support! Glad to have others along on this very strange journey.

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