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MO-Carpenter 0 points ago +1 / -1

The Eastern church uses the language of the people it’s serving, just as the apostles did. Greek Eastern Orthodox I’m Greece do their services in Greek, Greek Eastern Orthodox in America do their services in English unless they have a majority of their parishioners who speak Greek. You admit your service was in Greek yet it’s now in a dead language, it’s alienating. Rome admits that the eastern church has valid sacraments apostolic succession and tradition but laments that we are stuck in the first 1000 years and haven’t developed. If translating the services and scripture to peoples native tongue is traditional, I’ll stick with the tradition. The apostles spoke the language of their audience. That’s in the Bible. Why would we want people to not understand?

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MO-Carpenter 1 point ago +1 / -0

Don’t you find it alienating that the “traditional mass” of Roman Catholics is in a dead language? Especially given that it was written in 1570. The miracle of Pentecost the Holy Spirit descended and the apostles preached and everyone heard the gospel in their native tongue. We are told to preach the gospel to the nations why would it be in a dead language that most cannot understand?

We have different liturgies dating from the apostles and the most popular ones are from like what the 3rd or 4th century AD that are translated into the native tongue of the laity wherever they may be to connect with them. Why Latin? What’s so special about this 1500s tradition?

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MO-Carpenter 5 points ago +5 / -0

It’s nice to see something other than a goldfish brain level take on the history of this conflict. We fomented a revolution in Ukraine to turn it against Russia with us senators and state department marching in the street. We stood by while the new government we installed killed over 10k Russians in what even the UN at the time called a genocide but hey nobody saw this coming right?

The propaganda levels on this conflict have been blocking all rational assessment of these two countries.

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MO-Carpenter 1 point ago +3 / -2

Nazis invented the vaccine passport (Gesundheitspaß) globohomo confirmed

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MO-Carpenter 0 points ago +1 / -1

Using a language they typically don’t understand is a contributing factor to making people feel alienated by the Roman Catholic Church back during the Protestant reformation and it continues today.

The Lord is the author of all languages, from Babel till today. The Old Testament was in Hebrew, the New Testament was written in Greek our Lord Jesus Christ spoke Aramaic. We are called to make disciples of all nations/ethnos. Does that mean we should teach them all Latin and require intensive education from them experience traditional worship? Nah translate the texts and liturgy for everyone. Christ is risen!

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MO-Carpenter 1 point ago +1 / -0

I mean the issue continues today, like why is the primary traditional mass latin still? It’s a dead language. I really appreciate the orthodox mindset of always focusing on translating the texts to make them accessible and preserving the ancient liturgies in the language the community prefers.

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MO-Carpenter 5 points ago +5 / -0

So they’re voting to make the Bible hate speech?? The implications of this are insane

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MO-Carpenter 1 point ago +2 / -1

Demons are interdemensional beings that are not limited by our geography

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MO-Carpenter 3 points ago +3 / -0

So a phd and writer for Bart Ehrman a popular Bible critic is trying to take isreali money and downplay Christian prosecution eh? Well as they say “OY VEY”

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MO-Carpenter 2 points ago +2 / -0

His son Beau died from cancer while running for governor in like 2015. He served in Iraq ending in like 2009.

Bosie died in a military aircraft in the Pacific Ocean in 1944

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MO-Carpenter 4 points ago +4 / -0

Idk they’ve been scare mongering both sides for a while. That the vaccine will be more deadly, that the virus will be more deadly. Looks like the shots were way bad but like I’m not gonna believe night of the living dead shit until I see it with my own two eyes. I almost certainly lost a family member to the shots so I’m not saying this with no understanding but they keep whipping us up into a lather and it feeds the ego of “i was fuckin right” so we eat it up. I’m glad I didn’t get them and I hope people don’t keel over even more.

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MO-Carpenter 4 points ago +4 / -0

Old calendar Easter is on 5th of May this year boys. We can always disregard the papal calendar and celebrate the Lords resurrection on cinco de mayo.

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MO-Carpenter 2 points ago +2 / -0

He still can appeal no? Sometimes a harsh sentence then appeal to nothing is done to appease both sides of a situation.

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MO-Carpenter 5 points ago +6 / -1

So because isreal is mad at Russia for asking satellite images to prove isreal and America did not bomb the hospital.

Isreal is now willing to team up with azov battalion Nazis in order to fight Russia whom it also refers to as Nazis. Jews supporting Jews supporting swastica tattoo Nazis in order to fight with Russia.

Idc what anyone says when Jews are teaming up with Nazis against Russia both in regards to zelensky/Ukraine and isreal/Ukraine it shows:

A:) how the mask has slipped B:) how much the global elites hate the Russian people

I’ve always considered Russia a potential powerful ally and this just reinforces that to me. When all the worst organizations hate you you’re doing something awfully right. Especially when Jews are willing to team up with Nazis for literally asking “did ya bomb that hospital? Because that shit was a massacre and a war crime and we need to find out who did.”

Someone who didn’t bomb a hospital would respond with: “you’re right that was a war crime let’s help find out the truth”

Very sus behavior from the Pharisee nation that labeled itself isreal as always.

Will this lead to World War III? Find out next time on dragon ball z!

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MO-Carpenter 2 points ago +2 / -0

In acts the church was synodal, without Peter as the head. The Roman Catholic Church abandoned the synodal structure and started innovating to power grab. Papal primacy existed, but papal supremacy and papal infallibility did not exist in the first thousand years of Christianity. The original justification for these innovations were based on now admitted papal forgeries.

The Vatican admits these in these two semi recent documents attempting to reunite East and West.

Here’s the Chieti document

Here’s the Alexandria document

In both of these the Vatican concedes to most of the Orthodox criticism over the past thousand years. They admit the early church was nothing like the Vatican operates now; that they based their power originally on forgeries (why would the pillar and ground of truth need forgeries to seize power?)

That’s your Vatican saying it too; you don’t have to take my word for it.

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MO-Carpenter 4 points ago +4 / -0

The Jews removed the book of Maccabees from their scripture and Christian’s maintained it. In my view they’ve surrendered the menorah and it’s a Christian symbol that they’re trying to appropriate. If they reject the book they don’t get to keep it imo.

It’s wild to me they made their biggest holiday to compete with Christmas and they don’t keep the book it came from.

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MO-Carpenter 5 points ago +5 / -0

I have T-Mobile and they’ve censored links about Hillary’s emails and about hunter bidens laptop in the 2016 and 2020 elections. Also vaccine stuff during peak Covid hysteria. I’d send a link via sms and they’d just never get it. We verified it by talking on other platforms and repeating the links too.

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MO-Carpenter 1 point ago +2 / -1

Excellent list also adding they were a pioneers of vaccine passports. The nazi health pass called the Gesundheitspaß was to my knowledge one of the first if not first.

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MO-Carpenter 2 points ago +2 / -0

Source? To my knowledge Plato only talks about Atlantis in Critias and Timaeus and the reason for the collapse in those was war.

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MO-Carpenter 3 points ago +3 / -0

Father, Son, Holy Spirit.

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MO-Carpenter 4 points ago +4 / -0

Who also worked with the cia under operation condor.

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MO-Carpenter 1 point ago +1 / -0

I’m not a Roman Catholic I’m orthodox but let’s talk idolatry. In the Bible there is a clear differentiation between worship and veneration. For example when Moses meets with some family he bows and kisses them much like we bow and kiss an icon, family member, or a priest. It’s an ancient sign of respect that’s in the Bible and not listed as worship.

And Moses went out to meet his father in law, and did obeisance, and kissed him; and they asked each other of their welfare; and they came into the tent. -Exodus 18:7

Genesis 44:14 When Judah and his brothers came to Joseph’s house, he was still there; and they fell to the ground before him

Exodus 11:8 All these officials of yours will come down to me, prostrate themselves to me, and say, "Get out, you and all the people following you!' After that I'll go out." Then Moses angrily left Pharaoh.

Now as an orthodox we do not use statues in worship (we are commanded against it in rare cases some people disobey it) but if you want to go after iconography there’s biblical Old Testament verses for that too that our Lord commanded imagery in His Temple and on the Ark of the Covenant.

Then he set the cherubim inside the inner room; and they stretched out the wings of the cherubim so that the wing of the one touched one wall, and the wing of the other cherub touched the other wall. And their wings touched each other in the middle of the room. - 1 Kings 6:27

The two doors were of olive wood; and he carved on them figures of cherubim, palm trees, and open flowers, and overlaid them with gold; and he spread gold on the cherubim and on the palm trees. - 1 Kings 6:32

There is a clear distinction between worship and veneration, and there are not only permitted but commanded imagery by God in the Old Testament.

As orthodox we think Roman’s take some of these issues too far, but I must add there is an appropriate level of veneration and imagery in worship according the the Word.

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MO-Carpenter 1 point ago +1 / -0

The ancient Orthodox Church does a Saturday and Sunday service every week to honor the Old Testament and the resurrection.

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MO-Carpenter 1 point ago +1 / -0

It’s old school tradition in Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodoxy that freemasonry leads to excommunication. The Vatican has been back and forth about this but yeah even a broken clock is right twice a day.

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