Remember earlier this year when many people were convinced that people would start starving soon because a couple of food processing facilities were damaged and there was a scare about baby formula?
The topic seems to be dead. Has anyone starved or experienced any shortages lately?
This aged well.
How do you know?
lag.
we dont consume in real time or THIS year's crops or products. we do everything a year ahead. this year's stuff is actually LAST YEAR'S stuff and so on.
that's how farming works - now we're consuming what was produced last year and next year we'll be consuming this year's crops. the food industry like everything else was hurt by lockdowns and now we should be working on recuperating last year's losses, but instead due to inflation food producers just like everybody else are struggling to stay afloat
The baby food plant was closed for months before the shortage started to hit shelves.
Because of the supply stored in places.
But when they aren't being restocked we eventually saw bare shelves for a long time.
Now the same thing but with food.
It's not as easy to spot because of the huge variety of food that is produced vs the one major formula plant.
No shortage here. Plenty of game in the freezer. Two acre garden. Laying hens.
Hope you planted plenty of carbs like potatoes and corn
Bicolor sweet corn in two stages. Harvested first stage.
Blanched and in the freezer.
Second stage harvest in about 35 more days.
No, you need to eat bugs, like YOU keep telling others to do, in the other threads you reply to.
Have never once told anyone to eat bugs.
I have only expressed my experience eating bugs.
Get a grip.
I get it. Access to no food is a frightening prospect.
Eat bugs or eat vaxx tainted humans? Your choice.
Do you hunt? Can you hunt?
If not your options will dwindle.
I take comfort I have more options than an empty store.
What are your options.
If you don't take stock on options now, you will starve later.
No skin off my ass.
Get a job you bum.
Acting like a child won't help your predicament.
Start developing options, human.
Yes, which is why I have a job. To keep American society functioning. Acting like a child won't help your predicament. Start helping or get fucked.
This is the most retarded shit you have written.
You know nothing about me. IF you did, it would scare you.
You can fuck on off now.
Yes. The working class is beneath you. Because you are an unemployed 'warrior' that eats bugs.
This is how agri system flows work temporally (roughly).
There is lack of fertilizer and or seeds or fuel for Year 2022 spring harvesting [happened]
Summer 2022 crop yields go down [happening]
There is a delay / problems in summer 2022 crop yields exports (say, due to war, logistics, trade wars or lack of trade routes) to food importing nations in summer 2022 / fall 2022 [happening now]
In fall 2022 people are still eating mostly grain stock from year 2021 (previous year), but food prices due to rising crop and futures prices, start to rise. This is still within max 20-30% range
Fall planting/harvesting gets more issues from lack/price of fertilizer/fuel/pesticide/herbicide. This cuts into the stock levels crops going into storage for 2023 [will most likely happen]
by end of 2022 stock/storage of crops from 2021 have been eaten. Futures prices and food prices start reflecting this, along with the fact of lesser crop yields/diminished exports of 2022 [already baked into 2022 events]
By 2023 Food prices start to rise, the further in the year we continue, as storage from diminished yield/imports harvest year 2022 start to show. This results in crops/food item shortages and intermittent price hikes and continued rising food inflaation (over 20%).
By mid-year 2023 the least rich, most populous, most grain crops importing nations have been priced out of the market by rich OECD countries. People in these poorer countries starve. They start uprising, governments topple. People stare masse emigrating away, in hopes of finding food and opportunities.
By late 2023 food shortages, rationing, end user food price inflation of 50-200% is reality even in some rich OECD countries. The best insulated are those, who are least dependent on imported crops, imported fertilizer and imported fuels and had a good 2022 crop yield with good storage levels.
During all this, big food exporting nations (esp. emerging ones) start protecting their own stability by STOPPING food exports (in order to save food for their own citizens, so they won't rebel). This results in more food shortage, bilateral trade deals, disruptions in futures markets and chaos for multinationals trying to hedge availability/price of food.
So, food shortages and price inflation is coming, but it won't properly hit until 2023.
IF Ukraine war continues, IF Russia is sanctioned longer/further, IF Russia / China / Brazil start supporting each other even more and IF fertilizer/fuel prices keep rising and or being volatile, then all this ever so more likely.
I give it a 50-70% subjective probability to happening next year.
The actual end results (severity) depend on where you live and how well prepared and self-sufficient in food / energy production your country is. US will be mostly just fine, even if the prices rise.
Africa, Middle East, many parts of Asia and some parts of Europe, not so much.
This won't happen in any western country because the elites want starvation and civil unrest to be concentrated in the West. They'll keep on exporting, claiming the food is needed for "humanitarian" purposes abroad. They might even increase exports to bottom out the domestic supply.
None of this has happened.
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US crop prices : + 90% in 2022:
https://www.ers.usda.gov/webdocs/Charts/58355/food-prices_fig04_450px.png?v=2300.4
OECD G7 consumer food price inflation since 2021 +15 - +32% :
https://economistwritingeveryday.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/image-21.png
US Egg price inflation 2021-2022: +60%
https://cdn.statcdn.com/Infographic/images/normal/29177.jpeg
Worldwide Coffee price inflation:
https://econlife.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/Global_inflation_tracker__see_how_your_country_compares_on_rising_prices___Financial_Times.jpg
White Rice price inflation 2021-2023 : +50% https://assets.bwbx.io/images/users/iqjWHBFdfxIU/iPrj6Xpo5.YM/v2/pidjEfPlU1QWZop3vfGKsrX.ke8XuWirGYh1PKgEw44kE/-1x-1.png
US Wheat price inflation 2021-2022: +40%
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/WPU02120301
India imposes rice export ban, 7/2023
https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/india-prohibits-export-non-basmati-white-rice-notice-2023-07-20/
So where are the predicted foot shortages?
I guess OP hasn’t been to a grocery store in years, probably double masked in their mom’s basement. Shortages are everywhere, it’s not like in the movies where there is NO food on the shelves, just particular brands and items. V8 juice was out at my local store for over a month. Boxed mashed potatoes: 2 brands were in stock, other brands out for 6 weeks… just go to a grocery store dude… like others are saying in the chat, it will get worse. Google “foodbank” and then check the “news” section. Google “credit cards maxed out” and check the “news” section. Google “grocery store stolen” and check the “news” section….
People about to b hungry nigga
I regularly shop at 4 different supermarkets. No shortage of anything here.
The point is that this years harvest will be down across the board, “war” in addition to “climate change measures driving up the cost of fertilizer” plus labor (i.e. harvester) shortages PLUS the current economic situation of rampant inflation
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Food shortages
If I were you I would have started my garden 6 months ago.
It's gonna hit the fan, don't worry, prices are going to keep climbing.
1 Raise commodity prices.
2 Third world revolts.
3 EU & US takes in "refugees".
4 ????
5 Profit.
2 more weeks!
Recently read an article about drought in SW US causing ranchers to bring cattle to market severely under-weight. This will have severe consequences on future herds.
The shortages are real, it's a slow burn.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/25/business/drought-farmers-cows/index.html
Right now food prices are rising, but we are also on last year's harvest and already we saw some problems when the shelves were empty earlier this year. Now with the WEF banning fertilizer in many countries it will get worse.
Our land is poisoned. Monsanto has made sure of that. Maybe it should fall, the food that comes from it is killing us.
I don't know if they have the nuts to pull the plug on the whole thing. I guess we'll see...this whole thing could be just an excuse for inflation.
Its already pulled even if they didnt want to
People dont realize just how many food processing plants the us has, theres not going to be any food shortages here.
We are still eating from last year's harvest.
Don't worry, when it comes you'll know. You can't miss it.
I am eating fresh produce every day. How can that be from last years's harvest?
takes a while for people to go through the reserves
Well bread is up 100% since the beginning of the year here
Business are going to keep trying to do business, as they are ran by people, simply trying to do their jobs. That's all it takes to keep our society working. Work.
Right. Too much money lost just....stopping.