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SmithW1984 4 points ago +4 / -0

MK-Ultra mind control. They're literally being hypnotized. Such concerts are massive black magick rituals. Mystery solved.

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SmithW1984 1 point ago +1 / -0

Could be. But this figure includes non-ashkenazi jews, meaning arabs, negroes and actual Biblical jews. They say the ashkenazi are like 9mil but that's inconceivable considering they are everywhere running shit.

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SmithW1984 2 points ago +2 / -0

And this is exactly why I disregard people when they start blaming everything on jews.... Because every time I've made an effort to get to the bottom of why they think that, I find out every single time they are not capable of making a good faith argument for their position.

Cry me a river. If you want evidence and proof, learn to read books, dude. I'm done here.

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SmithW1984 2 points ago +4 / -2

Most Christians are deceived.

They are not true Christians. If they were of the Church of Christ and listened to what the Church fathers said and still say about the jews, they wouldn't be deceived. This is a fake and gay infiltrated and subverted cult based on Christianity.

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SmithW1984 1 point ago +1 / -0

Why does it matter if I wrote it? Besides, didn't you notice the quote format there? When you were reading it, didn't it strike you as a text from a book and not a hastily written comment?

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SmithW1984 1 point ago +1 / -0

Why did I bother writing that comment when you obviously didn't even read it?

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SmithW1984 1 point ago +1 / -0

Ok you baited me for one last response

If white people run a bank, it's just a bank. But when jews run a bank it's a "jewish bank".

"White people" is not an ethnic, religious or cultural group - it's a race. Most jews are white people. Not only that, jews are a very small part of the population (0.2%) compared to the category "white people".

The jewish banks are more precisely banks, owned by jewish banking families because jews, especially rich and powerful ones, keep it in the family (or marry other jewish families with similar stature). Jews are grossly overrepresented in banking and financial institutions and there are historical reasons behind that.

Now read this carefully: The reason why jews are named and "white people" are not is because jews are and always were seen as foreigners in every country they lived, because they refused to assimilate and isolated themselves. They were banished from more than 200 countries because they didn't assimilate and practiced talmudic judaism, usury and were involved in subversion and conspiracies (even when they were not, they were viewed with suspicion and were the usual scapegoats) which was not well received in Christian countries. It was common for jews to be treated as second class citizens because judaism is anti-christian and the West used to be Christian before they secularized it through their communist freemasonic revolutions.

I have to give you basic history lessons because you fail to understand the obvious - why jews are perceived as "others" in our European (and Western) culture. At least you sound like a young guy so there's time to learn. I was stupid when I was in my 20's too.

Even if we put the history aside - because they are a small minority and a peculiar community, it makes perfect sense to name them like that. It would have been the same if a lot of amish guys owned banks. Such peculiarities are easily noticed. This is basic psychology and language. I'm amazed I have to explain this to you and I don't mean to be rude but you sound like a sperg (either that or you're young).

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SmithW1984 4 points ago +4 / -0

The title alone deserves an upvote. This guy Terziiski is a fellow countryman. He's a legend in the conspiracy circles. He disappeared around 2001, and some say he was murdered.

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SmithW1984 0 points ago +1 / -1

I never thought I'd agree with Kamala. She's spitting facts here.

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SmithW1984 1 point ago +1 / -0

You're supposed to open with your strongest arguments, and Gavrilo Princep and Leon Trotsky being jewish was your opening argument for why WW1 was a jewish conspiracy.

Don't tell me how I'm supposed to debate, dude. I pasted a chapter of a book about WWI and it logically starts with the assassination of Franz Joseph.

So far I've spent 3 days trying to get you to define what makes a "jewish conspiracy" and you haven't. So forgive me if I'm skeptical as to what you consider a "jewish bank".

A bank run by jews maybe?

And yet the membership of the mafia is 100% Italian and you just told me that doesn't count as an "Italian conspiracy"....

It's not about the quantity but of category. I pointed that out in my reply about the mafia but you glossed over it.

Your sophistry is off the charts, I'm done with this. Just read the fucking books (or don't, I don't care). You don't need me and I feel I'm getting trolled, no one can be this bad faith uwnillingly.

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SmithW1984 1 point ago +1 / -0

But when asked for specifics to support your claim you brought up that Gavrilo Princep was a jew, Leon Trotsky was a jew, and mentioned zionism.

I addressed that already. I posted a couple of paragraphs, but you decided to reduce it all to the first statement, taking it out of the context of the whole and ignoring the rest and thus strawmaning the argument as if the whole argument is build around the speculation that Gavrilo Princep is jewish.

As for Trotsky, it is definitely significant that he was jewish considering 90% of the bolsheviks were jewish and were financed by jewish banks in the West.

So we have a jewish ideolog (Karl Marx), jewish revolutionary leaders (Lenin, Trotsky, Kerensky and Zhinoviev) and jewish financiers (Wall str's Jacob Schiff, of Kuhn Loeb and Co., Chase Manhattan Bank of the Fed, J.P. Morgan). Then we have the Protocols of Zion which is a blueprint for the revolution and the subsequent regime. How is the bolshevik revolution not a jewish conspiracy to seize control of Russia (and other European countries, where the communist revolutions and short-lived regimes failed miserably)? Moreover, this was not their first rodeo in bringing about a communist NWO and previously both the English and the French Revolutions where planned, organized and executed by jews (and their useful pawns).

Is it accurate and fair to describe the mafia as "An Italian conspiracy to rule New York"? Why or why not?

No. The mafia does not hold a nationalistic agenda - as I said they are a criminal secret society originating from Italy. The mafia was a conspiracy of Italian criminals to rule over New York criminal world and influence the government. Calling it an Italian conspiracy would suggest the Italian government and elites supported their efforts in the US, which they did not. Subtlety of language is key for context.

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SmithW1984 2 points ago +2 / -0

I was skeptical of the info to begin with and didn't pay it much attention. It red like hearsay.

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SmithW1984 2 points ago +2 / -0

Did you guys catch the flashing thermite explosives going off at 0:44? Compare with footage from other controlled demolitions, there's no mistaking those.

The only question is - why release it now? Are they going to pull the rug?

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SmithW1984 0 points ago +1 / -1

It was disinfo? It sounded very plausible, you can't blame people for thinking it was true. They don't call him the Zion Don for nothing.

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SmithW1984 3 points ago +3 / -0

Oh, no. I almost thought Elon was one of the good guys with his perpetual Champion of Lucifer outfit and transhumanist agenda. I can't believe he's all kiked up...

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SmithW1984 1 point ago +1 / -0

Building a case for what? You have to actually define the charges before you can build a case.

I'm sure I did in my initial comment. You wanted me to provide evidence for that claim, remember?

That jewish financial and zionist interests were behind much of what transpired throughout modern history (1600's onwards), especially in terms of cultural subversion, central banking, wars and revolutions.

We have such direct confessions from members of the mafia, do we not? We have such direct confessions from Zionists don't we?

Zionism IS the conspiracy and since you agree then the argument is what are the purposes of zionism and what is the scope of the planning to achieve those purposes.

I'd say zionism is not just about the establishment of the state of Israel. It's about the establishment of a jewish kingdom that would rule over the world (which coincidentally is what international socialism - demonstrably conceived, organized and funded by jews - as well as the NWO conspiracy, which is based on corporate international socialism, is all about).

The best way to achieve this is through control of the world's economy and financial institutions, because who controls the money controls politics and the people. I can list you all the jewish banking families here as to not be accused of being "vague" but it's not too hard to find a list yourself. This is as much of a fact as is the mafia originating from freemason southern Italian carbonari revolutionary/unification secret society and eventually emigrating to the US where they successfully took over the organized crime world in all states.

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SmithW1984 6 points ago +7 / -1

Great now explain Building 7 and we're good. Did it collapse out of peer pressure?

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SmithW1984 2 points ago +2 / -0

They don't believe in the one true God. They are Satan worshippers and it's evident by the fruit they bear. It makes sense they will deceive and twist the laws in their worship since that's what Satan is about.

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SmithW1984 2 points ago +2 / -0

So just right off the bat... If Gavrilo Princip was jewish that is enough of a connection to support the claim that jews are behind the war?

And Trotsky being a jew.... That too is enough of a connection to support the claim?

"So the fact I have eyes and a mouth makes me a human?" - that's called reductionism, dude. No, him being jewish is not sufficient evidence by itself but it's still evidence building a case. What do you expect? Someone finding a signed confession letter of a representative of the jewish cabal admitting to it? Well, in some cases such confessions exist like The Protocols of the Elders of Zion or the letters between the Sindarin and Oliver Cromwell, but their legitimacy is disputed.

The point is if there is conspiracy to serve jewish interests, I want to see the object directly, not just the shadows on the wall. I need someone to explain to me what are "jewish interests", and tell me how the jews coordinate to achieve them.

There was an obvious example of this in the text. The establishment of the state of Israel in Palestine is a jewish zionist interest that was served by their agents in the British parliament lord Rothschild and lord Balfour.

I guess the point I'm making is that I could go through any historical event and draw connections to any ethnic group in the same way... In fact it's the same thing wokies do when they claim white people run everything for the benefit of white people.

Because wokies are dumb retards with no knowledge of history. There's no such historical grouping of "white people". White people conceived of themselves as followers of some religion in this case Christianity, then they were divided in different denominations that slaughtered each other and belonged to kingdoms and nation states. The problem with jews is that they partake in the government of other countries which they are supposed to be citizens of, and yet their loyalties lie elsewhere - with their ethnic group and state. This makes them foreign agents in those countries and ultimately makes them internationalists.

I'm not here to convince you of anything and I don't care what your opinion is. But we share ideas and information here and if you're interested you can check the sources I gave you, see how they make their cases and judge for yourself - I'm sure you don't need my interpretation of them.

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SmithW1984 1 point ago +1 / -0

WW1... Let's start there... Tell me how jews were behind WW1. Name the jews that are responsible and explain to me what they did to start the war. What were their motives? And how did their story turn out after the war?

Here it goes:

World War I started on 28 June 1914 when Gavrilo Princip, allegedly of Jewish origin and a member of a terrorist group, the Black Hand, assassinated Archduke Franz Ferdinand, heir to the Austrian throne, and his Czech born wife at Sarajevo, Bosnia Herzegovina. Princip was a collaborator of Leon Trotsky (real name Lev Davidovitsj Bronstein), [186] a Russian Jew who was conspiring with a fellow Jew Vladimir Lenin (named Ulyanov when adopted, real name Zederbaum) [187] to overthrow the Russian monarchy. He was in turn financed by an American Jew Jacob Schiff, [188] who was a front man for an English Jew Lord Nathan Rothschild, who was one of the masterminds behind this appalling catastrophe. These facts were confirmed in the United States Senate in 1921, when it was recorded that “Full responsibility for the First World War lies on the shoulders of the International Jewish Bankers. They are responsible for Millions of dead and dying.”

In late October 1926 further confirmation of these incontrovertible facts was revealed in a conversation between British parliamentarian Victor H Cazalet and Henry Ford (1863-1947). When the former asked who the international Jewish financiers were, Ford replied: “I have several books which will tell you who they all are. They were responsible for the last war, and will in the future always be capable of creating a war when they feel their pockets need one.” [190]

Trade rivalry, competing alliances and misunderstood mobilisations are often proffered as being the primary causes of World War I. However, the real reasons in order of importance are as follows:

  1. To destroy the Russian Empire and its State Bank.

  2. To break up the other empires (Austro-Hungarian, German and Ottoman) into smaller states, which could then be exploited more efficiently through the establishment of central banks.

  3. The theft of Palestine and the creation of a Zionist puppet state under the direct control of the Rothschilds.[191]

By the end of 1916 the British and French armies were in danger of losing the war, with the latter army having already mutinied on the Western front. The British had lost their naval supremacy at the Battle of Jutland on 3 May 1916, when the German Navy, outnumbered by two to one, humiliated the invincible Royal Navy, sinking 12 vessels for the loss of six and losing 2,551 sailors compared to the British loss of 6,094. [192] Both Kaisers were desperate to bring an end to this fratricidal and pointless slaughter. Seemingly out of the blue came an offer from Lord Rothschild to secure American intervention in return for handing over Palestine to a group of Jewish Zionists after the liquidation of the Ottoman Empire.[193] On 6 April 1917 the United States declared war on Germany [194] and the other central powers and on 2 November 1917 Lord Rothschild and his Zionist collaborators received their written undertaking by Great Britain to eventually hand over Palestine to Jewish settlers. [195] This infamous document known as the Balfour Declaration, was drafted by Lord Arthur James Balfour, British Foreign Secretary and General Jan Christian Smuts, a member of the Imperial War Cabinet. The misery of this unnecessary war dragged on for another two years. Russia was totally destroyed and an insoluble problem was created in the Middle East. As Rabbi Reichorn prophetically remarked in 1859, “Wars are the Jews’ harvest, for with them, we wipe out the Christians and get control of their gold. We have already killed 100 million of them. We shall drive the Christians into war by exploiting their national vanity and stupidity. They will then massacre each other, thus giving room for our own people.” [196] In similar vein Gutle Schnapper, Mayer Amschel Rothschild’s wife, is reputed to have said shortly before she died in 1849, “If my sons did not want war, there would have been none.” [197]

An armistice was declared on 11 November 1918 and seven months later on 28 June 1919 the deeply flawed Treaty of Versailles was signed. Germany had to accept exclusive blame and pay extortionate reparations of £6.6 billion [198] equivalent to the entire wealth of the country, even though the other principal belligerents England, France and Russia were equally, if not more blameworthy. This indemnity would be used to repay the international bankers the fraudulent loans and interest, which had been previously lent to the governments of Great Britain and France. As General Smuts said at the conference, “Everything we have done here is far worse than the Congress of Vienna. The statesmen of 1815 at least knew what was going on. Our statesmen have no idea.”

There's a lot more to add too regarding the financial aspects and behind the scenes machinations by jewish bankers like Warburg and Rothschild. If Wilson had not been elected, we might have had no Federal Reserve Act, and WWI could have been avoided. The European nations had been led to maintain large standing armies as the policy of the central banks which dictated their governmental decisions. There are many moving parts here and if you want get into the nitty-gritty you'd have to read the books. People like Carol Quigley, Anthony Sutton, Archibald Ramsey and Eustace Mullins did an amazing job researching the jewish financial elite and their central banking.

I suggest we move to the Bolshevik revolution and the USSR next, because there's a treasure trove of evidence there.

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SmithW1984 2 points ago +2 / -0

I think a thick ass book is the most bad faith and intellectually dishonest way to present and argue for any controversial claim, as a book is essentially one person's monologue, and the longer a single person is allowed to drone on uninterrupted the more easily they can build up false narratives by introducing a few falsehoods here, twisting a few things there, cherry picking a bit from this, and disregarding a bit of that. We've all seen this very phenomena on every TV news show.

Dude, I presented you the argument and gave sources that show the evidence, what else do you expect? What is the "intellectually honest" way to go about historical events? Search my feelz and come to the truth inside me? What's your alternative to gathering knowledge on things you don't have direct access to besides reading books and papers other people wrote?

I'm not asking you to take it for granted because someone wrote about it, but if you're doing research you should look into their arguments. Rejecting them because "it's someone else's biased view on things presented in a book (as opposed to what? a tiktok video? a conspiracy sub?)" is as bad faith as it gets, talk about intellectual dishonesty. All narratives of events are someone's interpretation and are biased. If you care about the subject, you read and crosscheck the information given while discerning to what extent the opinions presented are logically sound and cohere with the overall narrative. People literally can't read serious books any more. They have been psy op'ed to get instantaneous and effortless knowledge on demand with no subject being too complex and deep for that (the "ask google" effect).

That's essentially the same bad faith argument normies defer to when any grand conspiracy, tptb, establishment elite, etc. are mentioned: "Who's They?!?" Sure, I can tell you exactly who They are if you have a few days to spare, but it won't happen in the context of a casual conversation. That's like asking me to explain grad-level music theory (or any complex subject), which takes years to learn, to someone who has no musical education in a few sentences over a beer or two.

Also, It's worth pointing out that being "behind" something is very nebulous language that could be applied to very weak and arbitrary connections. And "jewish financial interest" is also very nebulous language.

It could be and that's why you have to see if that's the case. It's vague because it's a broad argument synthesized in a single sentence. There are very particular definitions and elaborations on the things you ask about but you complain they are too long and complex because they are not a tweet or a random anon's take on the conspiracy sub.

Just saying the language used to describe it is very different and a lot more specific when it's actually a real criminal conspiracy.

Could you give an example?

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