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Primate98 2 points ago +2 / -0

It's funny, what you say, because it made me think of what I heard about the very deep etymology of the word "science". It turns out to be same as the word "shit". I get that science is shitty these days, but it's a bit puzzling, right?

It turns out that the fundamental idea behind both is "separation", particularly separating out that which you do not want. In this light it makes perfect sense.

So the work of science is not finding "the answer", it's identifying and separating out that which you can show is not the answer. I see that as very much what the work of any real researcher should be.

I figure that if you metaphorically get out the pick and shovel and chainsaw and scalpel, you can work to clear away all those things that obscure the truth, and thereby make it plain for everyone to see (for those that want to see, that is).

I specifically use the word "work" to describe this, which aside from any other issue is why you see so little of it. Back to work then....

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Primate98 2 points ago +2 / -0

Thanks for asking, I very much appreciate the interest!

As far as trying to get a handle on the subject in it's most general form, I'd say you have to break it down into several topics. You have to study them separately, and you can often see that the first thing "They" want to do is mix them together, of course.

The first topic would be: are there aliens? Yes, most assuredly, at least one species anyway, the Anunnaki. I could probably write three books just with the little research I've done. All the current researchers are spewing bullshit. Even Mauro Biglino was "turned" just a couple of years ago.

The only intersection with the "UFO phenomenon" is when they talk about UFOs in the Bible. Turns out the Bible was about the Anunnaki and they had both aircraft and spacecraft. The people at the time had no idea what they were seeing. Today, they try to flip it all around and convince us Little Green Men in saucers were in the Bible.

The second topic would be what we might call the "UFO canon": all the famous incidents and all the prominent Ufologists. The canon is completely riven with the Salem Witches, as I call them. Thus all the books and researchers basing their work on any of this is totally polluted and worthless. My recent posts are essentially documenting this.

It's a gigantic psyop, with liars and dupes absolutely filling the innerwebz and podwaves. When you subtract it all out as untrustworthy from the subject of UFOs, you really don't have a lot left.

The almost final topic is that residue, though, and we return back to the work of what we might call real Ufology. What do we make of the lights in the sky and stories of alien encounters? I infer that almost all of this is another hoax, while admitting I can't say how it's perpetrated.

Take the lights in the sky. If aliens don't care if we see them, why don't they fly around during the day? If they do care, why do they have lights at all? Why are the exact characteristics of the lights so incredibly varied? How many types of alien craft are we supposed to believe there are?

More interesting are the tales of close encounters. Subtract out the liars and kooks and you still have a lot of people that absolutely believe what they're saying. An intriguing aspect is that even the ones you know did not experience what they say they experienced seem to totally believe it. And again, there is an infinite variety of discrepant details. Further, there is the simple fact of how absolutely convinced these experiencers are of their experiences. That is not what we should expect.

Suppose you walked outside and saw a pink elephant flapping its big ears and sailing by through the air. Would you tell people there was definitely a pink elephant? Of course not. As a sane person, you might say, "I'm aware of how crazy it sounds. All I can tell you is what it looked like to me, and that it seemed very real." UFO witnesses never have such reservations.

That reasoning leads me to this wild speculation: does the gubmint have some sort of mind ray they hit people with from time to time to induce a type of hallucination?

Sounds crazy but I will give an analogy. Suppose they had a mind ray that could make you think of a "car". Well, although very similar, the details of a "car" you would create in your mind would be different than the ones I would conjure. The same goes for "policeman". It makes me wonder, is there some unknown mechanism to cause people to see (ie, experience as 100% real) "flying saucers" and "aliens"?

So the actual final topic is this: is there a residue of the residue, and if so, what do we do with it? Actually, it beats me! Whatever it is, though, is by this point incredibly small.

My focus has been on the second topic, a project in documentation. I mean, it's right there for all to see, all the elements universally accepted as fact, and I'm just arranging and presenting them in a certain way. It doesn't get more straightforward than that.

Even that simple project may be--I must admit to myself--literally beyond human comprehension. It's incredibly difficult for people to accept and integrate into their worldview that they have been deceived so completely. It's too much. People would absolutely prefer to listen to campfire tales about boogeymen and spooky goings-on.

Well, this sure ended up long! But now you know exactly where I'm at and why I'm doing what I'm doing. It is indeed very lonely. I have come to understand that to be the indelible mark on a seeker of truth.

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Primate98 1 point ago +1 / -0

Somebody posted about this very issue on r/conspiracy just yesterday:

Huge Difference in Altitude readings Between BlackHawk and CRJ Eagle at moment of collision. H=200 ft. vs, E=325 ft.

You can see everyone's take there, and my comment was:

I would surmise that PAT flights never exceed 200' as a hard ceiling for safety from MANPADs, even if there was not other air traffic.

Since the remote hijacker had to take it above that to intersect the jet, they've got to cover up this damning element, or at least try to stir up a cloud of haze around it so no one thinks about it too much.

Trump commented right away that the helo was way too high, so he already knows what went down. It's pointless for him to say much more about it and he hasn't.

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Primate98 5 points ago +5 / -0

There's something everyone should be aware of concerning Elizondo and the various others that have cropped up to tell us all the secrets about UFOs--excuse me, "UAPs".

They're all promoted by "journalist" Leslie Kean, and it turns out she's not some rando nobody. Just using Wikipedia, you can trace her ancestry back to John Kean (South Carolina politician):

John Kean (1756 – May 4, 1795) was an American merchant, banker and member of the Continental Congress from South Carolina who was the first in a long line of American politicians.

His wife was Susan Livingston, and she was a member of the Livingston family. Yes, they have their own wiki page.

John's stepfather was Captain Samuel Grove, "a wealthy and successful merchant". I never checked it out, but I suspect he's related to General Leslie Groves, who ran the Manhattan project, and whose ancestor was at the Salem Witch Trials.

Everyone is free to believe whatever they wish to from this source.

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Primate98 3 points ago +3 / -0

If you didn't notice, a lot of it was mine, and I didn't mention me either. Nice try at reading comprehension, though! Keep it up!

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Primate98 2 points ago +2 / -0

Haha, I'll roll the dice! But I found something fascinating at that link. I never followed the Q stuff at all, but....

I'm very far behind and have been very uninspired lately, but I have collected research for a post that concerned Kenneth Arnold, DB Cooper, the Space Shuttle Challenger, the Maury Island UFO Incident, and several other topics. Long story, as you may imagine.

One of the elements was that incredibly odd "Horizon Air Q400 incident" back in 2018. Among other things, the nighttime video of the widespread fires in the area looked like a missile strike, which fits my thesis about that region being a certain kind of Elite "stronghold".

Lo and behold, at that link you included, I come to find that Q thought the very same thing in 1846:

Autists catch the message? Think missile. Do you believe in coincidences?

The answer is no, I pretty much do not believe in coincidences any more... lol

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Primate98 2 points ago +2 / -0

I can agree completely with the corrupted shithole part. The question is: is it the least corrupted shithole available? More importantly, are there any lesser corrupted, not-as-bad-shitholes available?

I ask this in earnest. The Higherside Chats is--regardless of anyone's opinion of the content--one of the highest-profile conspiracy podcasts out there, and there was a very recent interview with the founder of Saidit, which is quite similar to this current forum in many ways.

I got very excited by the long discussion with Magnora 7, signed up, and put up a rewrite of my "roswell salem witch trials" post. After two days, neither upvotes nor downvotes, and only two brief comments: one an incredibly low-effort troll post and the other some bot-generated non-sequitur.

So it's not "Dead Internet" (which is just more false dialectic bullshit) but it's far closer than I ever imagined.

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Primate98 3 points ago +3 / -0

I think it would be hilarious if this was the setup for an announcement from Trump:

"Due to the dire threat of alien invasion, I have concluded treaties of peace and alliance with Russia, China, Iran, North Korea, and many other countries as we must all prepare to face this danger. Since warmongering between nations exposes all human society to danger, it is now a capital crime."

Then you could turn on MSNBC to hear, "Whoa whoa whoa! We're going back to UFOs are bullshit."

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Primate98 2 points ago +2 / -0

Thanks for the support! They say the world is stranger than you can believe, but you never expect to actually find that out in Wikipedia.

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Primate98 2 points ago +2 / -0

Before I started writing it, I thought, "Jeez, this Hoyt Vandenberg is a boring guy but he's definitely 'in', and I gotta document it with a brief post for the sake of completeness."

Well, you know how long it turned out, so the lesson is you never know what you're going to find until you look, which--as you say--apparently no one does... lol

Thanks for the support! More to come!

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Primate98 2 points ago +2 / -0

Being socialists, they declare that this is everybody else's fault, and demand that therefore everybody else should fix the problem and pay for it.

... [the management] said as it called for the local authorities to find a housing solution for the occupiers.

It has called for the government to deal with the problem, but President Macron's centrist cabinet is said to have ignored the request and is reluctant to get involved in the debacle.

The theatre's income model - which is 70 per cent based on ticket sales and 30 per cent on subsidies - has collapsed.

As Margaret Thatcher told us so long ago, "The problem with Socialism is eventually you run out of other people's money."

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Primate98 2 points ago +2 / -0

Oh yeah, They can and do make up crazy shit all the time. You wonder how They could get away with all this, but you want to know what the secret really is? No one's looking.

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Primate98 2 points ago +2 / -0

That turns out to be part of the process, where your "radar" gets activated to things you never saw before.

And your reference reminds me of a show called Drunk History that went off the air a few years ago. I thought it was the funniest show on TV for a while. If you haven't seen it, it's well worth looking up a couple of segments on YT.

After I became familiar with all the historical fakery, I started to recognize that one or even two of the three segments were about these operations, like Patty Hearst (hoax) and Harriett Tubman (intel operative). I finally realized, "Oh, that's why the show is on, to keep selling these phony narratives to people."

If you research it, one of the show's executive producers was Will Ferrell. You may remember him from the pics where he's attending those weird-ass Hollywood spirit cooking parties or whatever they are.

The other executive producer was Adam McKay. Guess where he was born? Denver! You cannot make this shit up. Then he was raised in Worcester, Mass. I've only alluded to it because there's been so much else to write up, but these generational Satanists were all over the American Revolution. Boston was, of course, too hot during the war, so it turns out it was run mainly out of (you got it) Worcester. Whaddaya know.

Seriously, see why I have so much trouble getting all this written up? Way too much material!... lol

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Primate98 2 points ago +2 / -0

Thank you very much for the support! Glad to have others along on this very strange journey.

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Primate98 2 points ago +2 / -0

Well, I clearly stated readers would have to take my word for it if they so chose, so I didn't open the debate. I write in such a way as I do for considered reasons, although I'm uncertain as much effort goes into reading it. That was already the end.

So, again, I've said all I plan to, but the floor is entirely yours if you'd like to enlighten the rest of the group with what you know, now that you've alerted them to the error. Or not, I suppose.

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Primate98 2 points ago +2 / -0

This connection was made in the "3x3" link included in the post, and that will link you to the founder of the company, George Swinnerton Parker.

What was left out of any post so far was that good old George was born and died in Salem, Massachusetts. That links us to the Parkers of the fake Salem Witch Trials and all the other outrageous fakery pouring out of that seminal hoax, featured in numerous previous posts and which will be featured in even more numerous future posts.

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Primate98 2 points ago +2 / -0

As to the issue of where the minor Old Testament prophet got his name, that which I discussed already answered it. No further hand-waving required.

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Primate98 4 points ago +4 / -0

One common way that history is (re)written--although virtually unrecognized by the public and unquestioned by historians--is that "secret histories" are "discovered" long after they were purportedly written. And what do we find for Procopius himself?

Procopius's now famous Anecdota, also known as Secret History, was discovered centuries later at the Vatican Library in Rome and published in Lyon by Niccolò Alamanni in 1623.

So the Vatican only had a thousand years to dream something up? Sounds like it must be legit, but it's still something for everyone to keep in mind as you're trying to figure out just what the hell actually went on.

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Primate98 2 points ago +2 / -0

I would suggest that rather than thinking of it as a "scam", as in some type of fraud or theft in violation of the law or of regulations, it should rather thought of as a fascist psychological operation.

To break that description down, it should first be recognized that the government and corporations clearly know what each other is doing. Here's a guy saying it out loud. Think the DOJ couldn't figure that out themselves? Think corporations know that it isn't secret? Of course not. They're in it together, which is the definition of fascism.

The psyop is that everybody else who has some sort of objection to the situation can just go on with their lives believing that "something is being done". As a general rule of psychological manipulation, They can persist in any activity as long as everyone thinks "something is being done".

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Primate98 1 point ago +1 / -0

F.A.Q. Holidays - Church of Satan

Q: What holidays do Satanists celebrate?

A: Since Satanism is a self-centered religion, the highest holiday of the year would be the Satanist’s own birthday....

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Primate98 1 point ago +1 / -0

A couple of related points from our occulted history:

  • The name "Ireland" similarly originates from "Aryan". For example, the Aran Isles are in the mouth of Galway Bay.

  • Maui the island is named after Maui the Navigator, the "culture hero" who explored and settled the South Pacific. He was not some fat Polynesian but an Aryan from Persia. There is to this day a segment of the Maori population in New Zealand who have blond or reddish hair and light-colored eyes.

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