I’m not a Roman Catholic I’m orthodox but let’s talk idolatry. In the Bible there is a clear differentiation between worship and veneration. For example when Moses meets with some family he bows and kisses them much like we bow and kiss an icon, family member, or a priest. It’s an ancient sign of respect that’s in the Bible and not listed as worship.

And Moses went out to meet his father in law, and did obeisance, and kissed him; and they asked each other of their welfare; and they came into the tent. -Exodus 18:7

Genesis 44:14 When Judah and his brothers came to Joseph’s house, he was still there; and they fell to the ground before him

Exodus 11:8 All these officials of yours will come down to me, prostrate themselves to me, and say, "Get out, you and all the people following you!' After that I'll go out." Then Moses angrily left Pharaoh.

Now as an orthodox we do not use statues in worship (we are commanded against it in rare cases some people disobey it) but if you want to go after iconography there’s biblical Old Testament verses for that too that our Lord commanded imagery in His Temple and on the Ark of the Covenant.

Then he set the cherubim inside the inner room; and they stretched out the wings of the cherubim so that the wing of the one touched one wall, and the wing of the other cherub touched the other wall. And their wings touched each other in the middle of the room. - 1 Kings 6:27

The two doors were of olive wood; and he carved on them figures of cherubim, palm trees, and open flowers, and overlaid them with gold; and he spread gold on the cherubim and on the palm trees. - 1 Kings 6:32

There is a clear distinction between worship and veneration, and there are not only permitted but commanded imagery by God in the Old Testament.

As orthodox we think Roman’s take some of these issues too far, but I must add there is an appropriate level of veneration and imagery in worship according the the Word.

The ancient Orthodox Church does a Saturday and Sunday service every week to honor the Old Testament and the resurrection.

It’s old school tradition in Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodoxy that freemasonry leads to excommunication. The Vatican has been back and forth about this but yeah even a broken clock is right twice a day.

The NYT who supports Ukraine and would absolutely downplay losses says Ukraine has 70,000 soldiers dead.

And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. But rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. - Matthew 10:28

God wants you and is merciful, the devil wants you to think he has ultimate control but he doesn’t he’s the father of lies. Gods law will always supercede the devil.

Sometimes they want to foment antisemitism in order to take advantage of the backlash historically. WW2-Isreal and Soviet Semitic peoples simultainupusly being Jews and best friends with prominent Jews while spreading antisemitic propaganda to justify the creation of the “soviet Zion” Birobidzhan. Historically they’ve leaned into the backlash in order to benefit so I’m not saying this is the case but it’s something to be aware of historically.

MK ultra is trauma based mind control, they use things that are tragedies that are horrible to manipulate. That alone is ample reason in my mind.

The vatican is notoriously cooperative with the cia. Isn’t it an interesting coincidence that the fbi is only investigating tradcaths who are against vatican 2 or question the current papacy? Pretty sus that the popes enemies within are the target of investigation.

He’s splitting hairs for sure, I find it interesting that the famously cia aligned papacy/Vatican is having fbi look into Catholics who question the papacy.

See the obvious joke yet? Aliens obsessed with gold likened to modern jews. Laugh or not and move on sensitive.

This is the problem with free speech libertarianism, you’ll support literally pedophilia to defend free speech.

Giving pedophiles real or fake child abuse content is like giving gasoline to a fire. It only serves to make them obsess over children more. Feeding a disgusting abhorrent addiction makes it fester and grow.

I appreciate OP publically outting themselves as a pedophile supporter at the very least. Get some help, if libertarianism leads you to support pedophilia maybe you’ve gone too far in your political ideology.

I’m ignorant of the waving hands thing could you talk more about that?

Speak for yourself, I wasn’t aware of this and I appreciated the info.

I didn’t insult you.

What precisely were you insulted by?

Me saying you are either unwilling or unable to defend your position?

I made sure to give both, because sometimes people prefer not to defend their position and that’s fair.

If anything I was being charitable towards you and giving you the benefit of the doubt.

I’ve shown you how humans have done about 7.5x heavier than anything on Easter island. You’re posing that it’s not possible with zero explanation why you consider it impossible.

You are unwilling or unable to carry the intellectual weight so it’s no surprise carrying physical weight also seems so insurmountable to you

I said it’s possible that humans did it then provided an example of humans accomplishing a significantly heavier weight. I do not own a time machine and neither do you so I purposely did not say have proof, just something heavy to compare it to. Do you have proof they didn’t move it by themselves?

1200 tons by man in Russia> 162 tons on Easter island

There is evidence people have moved an object heavier than anything in the ancient world without the use of machines and animal assistance. That shows it’s within the realm of possibility.

1200 tons is the largest rock moved by man. The heaviest stones in the pyramids is like 25-80 tons. The three foundation stones at Baalbek are 800 tons.

Nobody anywhere has been moving multiple 1200 rocks anywhere on earth that’s been discovered. If you actually look up the real weight of these objects and examine what humans have done in recorded history and turn off ancient aliens (who lie about weights constantly) you’ll get a better picture of what humans are capable of.

400 men with zero animals moved a 1,200 ton rock in Russia in ~1770, moving these stones are entirely possible with humans.

Look into Dicyanin. I think that’s what you’re searching for.

Dicyanin Dye is the “illegal” proclaimed aura dye. I’m seeing claims that it is legal in the US which is news to me if true because I’ve always heard it was banned. No clue if it works or not but there’s places selling it.

Plenty of people claim to have seen alien bodies or alien autopsies but also the government worked really hard to propagate those stories so idk. Allen Dulles personally went after any journalist investigating George Adamski and Betty and Barney Hills alien abduction stories.

People who got MK ultrad reported them trying to mimic alien abductions on their victims. Idk it seems like the government has a track record of trying to fuck with people about aliens to make them believe. Even that nerd Bob Lazar on Netflix’s story about “seeing a body” sounds par for the course, then gets a Netflix documentary. If they didn’t want you to know they wouldn’t take this much effort in spreading and protecting people who push the narrative from the 40s-50s until today.

People changing their minds on vaccination is a good thing.

Isreal had one of the highest vaccine and Covid rates, africa had some of the lowest vaccine and lowest Covid rates.

Not only is he seemingly very wrong, but if you’re gonna talk conspiracy about hot topics of blacks and jews you better have your statistics on point.

I wonder if this gaff is a controlled opposition where he’s purposely citing bad, or fed bad stats to make him make Covid and vaccine conspiracy look bad by association.

Another weird take from Owen. Personally I don’t see it happening. Society is way too degenerate it seems laughable. The ways I see the one world government happening is through usury and international banking, bluebeam, more pandemic nonsense, or another staged worldwide catastrophe. Even international nuclear conflict would be more likely than owens theory here.