If you'd bother to watch the video, he (Ben with UnchartedX) explains that it would be impossible to create these things on lathes, even modern ones.
I don't care what some blogger explains. I know that I can do it.
Truly, these vases could only be produced in a computer, with design software, and manufactured with highly precise sophisticated machines
It's a bullshit. Right before me I have a glass made from stone, something like that - http://kamnerez07.ru/shop/product/bokal-d60-115 I don't know how that stone named in English, in Russian it is named змеевик. Hardness is just 1-2 below hardness of granite. You could also buy similar glasses from onyx, which is harder than granite, and other stones.
IDK, hardly this "ancient super advaced technology" of making stone glassware preserved only in Ural mountains region of Russia. I know similar things manufactured in Iran and Pakistan. If some dude from youtube could not do that, then it's only his ignorance, nothing more.
My glass is perfectly round, it was made on simple lathe, basically similar to simpliest wood lathe, but with diamond cutting disc instead of chisel. Inside is taken out with diamond ball mill. Stock is rotating slowly, diamond cutter rotates fast. It is possible to make partial arcs on surface (for handles, f.e.) rotating stock by incomplete turn, leaving some stone intact.
I could easily make similar granite vase on my metalworking lathe using dremel equipped with diamond disk instead of regular cutter. Will took some time and water, but absolutely nothing exceptional. High roundness is guaranteed.
In ancient times such things highly probably was made on hand-driven lathe of basic construction with rotating bronse disk/ball with sand melted in as cutting tool. Water was used for cooling and dust removal. Two slaves, one to rotate bronse tool at high speed with bow string and other to pour water was handy. Master slowly rotate stock in lathe by one hand doing cutting with rotating tool with other hand.
Once upon a time, being child I was very enthusiastic in all that "advaced ancient technology" bullshit too. But with time, I got a knowledge and expirience of how things work and how they made. I learned to work on different machines and use different tools. And now, all that "advanced ancient technologies" are nothing more than simple job done with simple tools. Tools simplicity just made job longer, not less precise. And ancient people had a lot of time. They didn't have twitter and netflix, so had to find some other ways to occupy themselves.
Lathe-like machinery is an ancient thing. And with any lathe, even ugly, slaves-driven and prehistoric one, you inevitably get "magic" of ideal concentricity and roundness if you work on stock without taking it out.
It's like sawing something with rope saw - you always get perfectly flat cut surface.
Geometry rulz.
Nice vases, meanwhile.
So it is absolute number of murders per year for the whole town with around half-million inhabitants. That's something, thank you.
Questions remains about victims categories and Portland area (and so accounted population) changes.
Then, if categories and town area didn't change since 2019, then that's definitely sign of some severe shit happening in Portland.
I understand your confusion. Often times data is intentionally presented in a way that makes it difficult to interpret meaningfully, and it takes considerable effort to train oneself to put it together coherently.
Looks like some culture in presenting and spreading data is lost completely. That's sad, really.
Is it so hard to provide context for numbers?
What's it? Musrders per year? Per montth? Per week? Per 10k? Or may be per 1M
Who is the victims? Is it regular citizens who suffer from crime or may be it is unhinged gangs start to kill each other?
Numbers and plots without units and context are mostly useless, even if it is number of murders. Enough to provoke "feelings" for whatever reason, but not enough for something thoughtful.
The most disturbing thing is that during coronahoax we was fed a lot with same numbers and plots without units and context. After that, at least here, on that forum, people should perfectly know importance of units and context. But somehow I still see exactly same thing like I saw about coronahoax, just about some other thing.
How fuck is that?
2x weight is not something disastrous. It's 2g force. You probably expirienced something near that many times at passenger plane take-off. For few minutes only each time, but it is more than enough to reveal any problems if any. Hardly anybody will even describe this as "unpleasant".
Humans and animals will adapt, only some structures for obvious reasons will have problems as mentioned earlier by 867glow5309reggin.
Also, many people who don't care about themselves have more than 2x normal human weight and don't look suffering from their weight specifically, putting apart health problems, some even claim they are "healthy" and "normal".
Again noticed weird score calculation. It's 1 on the left, but +3 / -5 in title.
Ontopic: basically it is hybrid of hair clipper and vacuum cleaner.
Non-NASA, Roscosmos footage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uood2MZaosU
There is definitely nothing to tackle. Just sit and watch who will try to gain profit on his death. That simple.
Thanks for the game, and only one small suggestion - try to thoroughly thought out preconditions, so they be more or less consistent and have internal logic. This will make game much more interesting and even useful. :)
I think that situation when things looks consistent and logical, may be even boring, and so pretty possible IRL, and when player don't see any decent way out it is much more spectacular and thought-provoking than any plain trash horrors. :)
Your preparedness and cool head has made you a leader in the eyes of your neighbors and family.
God save me from that. I deny being leader. And neighbours are not any dumber of whatever, they just specialise in things other than elecronics. Also they are also stocked decently - remeber - they bring me what I needed, so they had and excess.
You need to set up a means of communication as all wireless communication is permanently down, and it seems only word of mouth is the only way news is getting in or out.
How is that? CB radios and walkies-talkies are fine and repaired.
How do you establish trade moving forward?
I don't think we need any trade at all at that point, since all that disater is temporary and main goal is to pass through with minimum damage, not make money. Will sum up everything later if needed.
Do you stay put, or do you leave?
Really nothing changed a lot. Yes, nobody making iPnone parties anymore, and there are no mains power from electricity company, but latter is not for long, they are fixing their stuff too. Why should we move?
What does your community look like? Will you have enough resources to take care of outsiders or do you fend for yourself?
Regular village, with forest, fields, log or stone houses and all that stuff. Just with temporary centralized power outage, which is not a rare thing, really, you know, that trees sometimes fall on wires or ice builds or wind, or somebody break power pole with tractor, so everybody prepared.
No, even a few weeks without electricity will not be even close to awful disaster here. Towns are more vulnerable, of course, but I don't think it will be total collapse too. Some shit will happen in some places, but nothing critical. As electricity will be fixed everything will return to norm.
Humans live without any electricity only 150 years ago, and that was not hell on earth. And even modern snowflakes will certainly survive a week or even a month without electricity.
We have a proverb - "devil is not as scary as they paint him", in the sense that things you don't dealt with often exagregated and when you really meat them, you find out that everything could be resolved, fixed or defeated easier than they told you.
to your discovery they didn't!
So, I had more than enough firewood to keep my home warm. Nobody get cold and so on.
Trees don't run on electricity!
Really they do. You know, chemical reactions, ions, radicals and all that stuff. All that is about electrons.
Your family didn't have enough to go around
Why? Just in kitchen I have around 2 kg of salt, one table salt and another for dishwasher. And who knows how many in warehouse. Last time I bought five 1kg packs of dishwasher salt and three 1kg table salt, and there already was something.
Neighbors return home and nope power is still off.
All my neighbours have gasoline generators, so power outage is not a problem anymore, since among things they bring me to fix was few electronic regulators from gens. Others just have older electronicless generators.
Your wife is now starting to accept the fact that you can't let electricity go
Everything apperared to be fine with electricity in my house. generator is murmuring on the wood gas without any problems, and could do it as long, as there is wood to add. Well, of course I have to stor it periodically for cleaning and servicing, but that's not a problem at all.
An amount of time has passed and you continue to cast imaginary spells and your family starts to worry.
Why should they? There are tons of wood in forest, it will took them dozen minutes to collect enough firewood to keep house warm even if I will be too lazy to do that.
Don't tell me that "solar flash" also vapourised our forest and so on.
has caused your mother-in-law to pass away from malnutrition and lack of salt.
Wait, solar flare also vapourised salt? You mean Sodium Chloride with melting temperature around 800°C and who knows boiling one?
We definitely on the next level. :)
There are 6 men and two women.
Slightly tired of them, really. They definitely bring me their broken electronic crap to repair. Again. As always. Well, I fix some of their electronic shit and they are happy, as always, and don't hesitate to provide us with everything necessary and much more, as always.
But I still not shure if all that stuff is applicable for next level. :)
Survive.
Well, I don't know rules for next level, and even don't know if the concept of "survival" is applicable here at all.
Wife (Hungry, Cold) Son (Hungry, cold, Sick) Mother-In-Law (Hungry, Cold) Self (Slowly going mad, -1 turn)
Well, you mean solar flare also eat all our food reserve and vapourized few tons of coal and firewood? Then there are nothing to worry about anymore - we are definitely already dead, and moving stright to the next level. :)
Do you have a lore and rules for next level?
Unfortunately the "electronics" you discover that are in your old pcs also show the same condition as your phone, TV, and Furnace. BRICKED.
If it runs on electricity it ain't working.
If such thing is accounted as possible in this wargame, then my move will be - I taking my magic wand and restore everything as it should be along with removing globalist cabal and their shills from existence.
Seriously, wargames with impossible preconditions are as senseless and practical as D&D. Just entertainment, nothing more.
This is 100% is not solar flare. Probably electronic devices was compromised by chip manufacturers intentionally to die at specific moment.
Solution - go down to basement and dig out old electronic stuff made before above conspiracy. You know - that beloved old PCs and other nice electronic things of the past which are "too grudge to throw out and too unfashioned to allow anybody see you have them". Revive necessary ones and continue with your business.
Moon albedo, calculated from visible sun and moon brightness ratio is around 0.07. So it reflects only 7% of light. I'ts pretty bad, really. Charcoal reflects 4%, for example. White paper reflects around 90%. Usual river sand have around 50%
Moon surface is only twice brighter than charcoal and 7 times darker than river sand. Pretty black thing I could say.
It is too easy to calculate, so hardly Kubrik, being perfectionist would have been fucked up with such simple thing. Color of moon surface on NASA color images is correct. It have to be kind of nearly black sand or dust to appear in our sky as we see it.
If moon had something like river sand as surface, it would have been 7 times brighter in full moon night, which is still far from sunlight, but already enough to read.
If that is the case, then it is orthogonal to "self-driving". Those who make sacrifice could do it regardless of "self-driving" and even a car.
Actually there is no math component required for it to be a theory.... It just has to be sufficiently proven through repeated tests and experiments. That can and often does involve math, but it doesn't have to necessarily.
You are absolutely right, math is not absolutely necessary, proof could be obtained without it, just in most cases especially in physics/chemistry, some math appears when hypothesis become theory.
Strictly speaking, it's not math, it is predictability, which provide way of proving/disproving. If you could predict outcome of your hypothesis given input variables/conditions, and so could check if it happens in reality, it is already a theory.
Yes.
theory is when hypothesis get some mathematical form.
Hypothesis is like "phenomenon A connected with phenomenon B"
Theory is like "phenomenon A is proportional to square root of phenomenon B"
Hypothesis is a broad assumpion about existence of connection of A and B. Since absence of something could not be proved, there is nothing to prove or disprove yet.
Theory is a next stage of obtaining knowledge that could already be practically verified by experiment and could be proven or disproven.
That too.
I'm about the whole hype around that "self-driving cars" "problem". Ways of routenly resolve such situations, regardless of obviously corrupted court practice is not anything new at all. There is just nothing special to discuss about. Corrupted jurors and judges is another question that have nothing to do with tech.
Shit happens. A lot of people was killed by automatic industrial equipment, so that "self-driving" point "specificity" is a bullshit. In case of factory casualities from the equipment the responsibility is either on the owner of tech, either on manufacturer of tech either or on employee who failed safety protocols, depending of circumstances of incident. Don't see why that century old scheme could not be used with that "self-driving" cars. They are not different from industrial equipment in sense of automatic action at all.
One of the main purposes of science is to enshure that theories of our world have no contradictions. You could not do it without searching for contradictions. Finding contradiction just means that theory is wrong and should be replaced or rewriten. It's the inalienable part of scientific research. You make theory, you check if experimental results align with theory predictions and look for contradictions to proove or dicsprove theory.
I don't even know who is worse in that case - Daily Mail who reports on some studies like they are scientific fact, or one who made this meme based on complete ignorance.
Science, and scientific approach is very important today. It is the only practical way of finding the truth that is not completely perverted yet. And those who are trying to bury science itself, instead of burying MSM, corrupted scientists and those who make profit on that, definitely is not on the side of truth.
In order to decide to not work with them, I have to judge them first though, eh??
You do it for yourself every time you make any decision. But it's your busines, not anybody else. That's simple.
Why f.e. LGBTXYZ+ are so despised? It's not because they fuck wrong way in their bedrooms, not at all. They despised because they try to push their own, and only their own business into others heads. Same here. Thats what make them despised.
You should go spend some time over there. Maybe you wouldn't be such a simp.
I don't need to simp or whatever to make trade. As soon, as gastronomical preferences or whatever of business partner don't interfere in my business, I'm perfectly fine.
And notice - I don't condemn or despise you for your attitude to Chineese. And I will be perfectly fine about doing business with you, if it will make sense, despite our different views on Chineese traditions and way of life in their own land, or on any other cultural, political and so on thing.
Isn't that puriest form of capitalism and free trade you stand for?
I don't see hordes of Chineese in Russian towns. There are no any China-Towns in Russian cities. There are no illegal Chineese migrants crossing Russian border daily. And any cafe or restaraunt caught doing something like what in video will be immidiately shut down by Russian sanitary inspection with likely criminal charges to the management.
As the things are going that way, I don't care about Chineese gastronomical preferences in China at al.
And if you think they are disguisting inherent cheaters or whatever - just don't make any business with them, what's the problem? Don't sell them, don't buy from them, that's all. Or you mean your government juridically force you to do that like with Israel? Ignore that stupid state laws then.
I have no any problems with Chineese and never had. IDK, may be they just account Russians different from Americans or whatever, so I in different position due to their bias, but this is also not my concern at all. They are free to have any attitude to anybody, as soon as they didin't try to push it on me.
Meanwhile, why do you try to push your attitude to Cheneese on me? What's the point? I don't really care even about your attitude to Russians, but I become suspicious when somebody try to push that attitude on me. It's not your business what I think about Chineese and how I deal with them.
From the other side, f.e. Jews don't like us, and I also don't like Jews (mostly because of endless interference into our life with their disguisting moral and all their shit). So, I don't have any business with Israel, and perfectly fine with that. Nobody cheat me and nobody give lectures about urgent need to hire few faggots in my company. And all that along with fact that some Israely companies produce some components I buy from Chineese, so they could be my business suppliers, especially taking in account that they didn't even impose sanctions on my country and it is as easy to sorce similar components from Israel, as from China. But I just choose not to, and that's all.
So what prevents you to do exactly same thing with Chineese you don't like?
It depends on what tolerances you mean. For roundness you will get less than micron tolerance on nearly any lathe and even cutting something gripped in hand drill.
I have no tools to measure roundness tolerance for things I made on my lathe, It is much less than micron. Best dial I have with 0.001 precision show nothing if I set it on a just turned part rotating in a chuck. Obviously.
For other axis, I have around 0.01 mm lengthwise from chuck to rear support and same 0.01 perpendiculal for 150mm diameter stock. This tolerances are adjustable so it could be better, but I don't need to.
You will not believe me, but suddenly, solids of revolution like vases are made from some 2D curve rotated by 360 degrees. If you look at Egyptian 2D pictures and ornaments, you will find that they are sometimes very sophisticated. You need not be a genius to take some of those ornaments curve and turn it to get some nice thing.
You don't need any eyballing if you use stops. Simpliest thing - a stick attached to stock. Every time attached stick stop at some fixture, angle of stock is exactly same with decent precision. Very easy.
Same with vase curve. Especially if you need several identical vases. You make a template plank with one side curved that set vase profile and use it as a stop for cutter. You will not be able to cut more than template allow and all subsequent vases will be identical.
They are idiots. You need bronze or brass for that. Just go to nearest hardware shop and take a look at all that diamond or corundum cutting disks - the abrasive is melted into brass. Copper is too soft to hold abrasive. In addition, copper is kind of sticky. It is hard to mil, drill and turn copper because it is sticky. Brass and bronse is self-slipping. That is why bushes are made from brass or bronze, and that is why it is used as a carrier for abrasive.
If you have a good hardware shop around, you could buy a rope blade for hack saw. Usially used for cutting ceramic tiles. It is a steel wire covered with brass covered with abrasive. Works pretty well. And cheap as dirt. You don't need any "egyptologists" to find out how things really works.
Mainstream historians claim a lot of bullshit. That is why they allowed to be mainstream.
Egyptians was well aware about wheel and machinery.
Steel is not used to cut stones. Steel is used in this tools only to carry cutting edge made from brass/bronze and abrasive. All cutting is done by abrasive. And there was plenty of abrasive in ancient Egypt.
Advanced technology makes things easier. It didn't change principle. Like with lathe. Of course modern CNC lathe is very comfortable to cut anything round and even not so round. But in basics it is not different from stock holded between two arrowheads and driven by bowstring with knife or sharp stone as a tool. With such lathe you could do anything you can do on modern lathe, it just will take much more time. With such lathe you could make any round parts from wood, bronze or brass stock. Then use them to upgrade your lathe to do things from stone or whatever material.
F.e. those flat disks with square holes in center that are declared coins by "archeologists". They are not coins. "Archeologists" didn't know about machining and all that stuff. They are cutting disks. Square hole allow easily transfer large torque from wooden stick to cutting edge without slipping. Craft was rated high in ancient times, so this form of disk with square hole eventually could evolve in coins with some art on them, but early ones with flat sides are cutting tools.
As for precision - I had a textbook for machinists where described a lot of methods to make high precision parts using low precision tools. It was old Russian textbook for technical schools. I'm shure western technical schools have to have similar textbooks, because it is the basics of any industry. High precision machinery is not appeared from nowhere. It was made on lower precision machinery. Find this book and read it. I guarantee, you will find much more amasing and mind-blowing stuff in this book than in all that videos about "advanced ancient technologies" together.
I watched and I'm pity I spend time to watch this. Only thing that saved this video is vases. They are nice. And that's all.
Seriously - buy that cheap stone bowl and measure it by yourself. All that bullshit "it is impossible even with modern tools" will vaporize quickly. Just $10 and highly probably you'll easily find something similar on amazon or ebay. Not a very high price to find the truth.
I understand why videobloggers do that videos. They want their easy money, so they will do anything to make even very boring things look amasing and misterious. But I don't understand why people here decide to help them to earn money?