I have studied how AI's work
Obviously, only from that stupid marketing articles from all that Google and other corps.
If you ever had a chance to actually try to understand how things works, say, writing your own ANN or playing with code of existing ones, then you would never tell that crap and had a clear understanding that any ANN is in no way more intelligent than a wall light switch or water pump relay.
Using something without looking inside and reading stupid marketing articles does not mean you understand shit.
Conscious, sentience, unpredictability, will and all that stuff are unseparable part of intelligence. It is you who are into lingustic revisionism for the sake of whitewashing all that paid liars from corporations and MSM who run all that AI hype.
Look, you even try to attribute intelligence to washing machines, in your attempts to support that stupid fearmongering narrative that "corporations build datacenters to create a god from a machine". They are not. It is impossible to create any intelligence using stupid and 100% definitive systems of equations programmed with linear programming using only "good programming practices" as beaten hard into the brains of anyone who was hired by corporations. But it is perfectly possible to create a total surveillance system using all that datacenters. Talking about non-existing AI instead of total surveillance is a collaborationism with the globohomos, who are the real and only customer of that surveillance datacenters.
It was always about machines being able to perform tasks that could previously only be done by human intelligence.
So, CNC or washing machine is an "AI" for you? :) :) :) Fascinating.
OK, you are a good example of so called "magic thinking". You don't want to know how things work and swallow any shit marketing put between your ears. I could imagine how many briges you bought.
You could repeat marketing bullshit of corporations all day long, but that will not turn stupid and barely useful ANNs into AI in any measure.
There is no any magic. There is only technology you don't want to understand.
Yes, just like that. And yes, it is far from "Googling", and I think it will never be close, because this will need a model size at the level (well, in the best case, few times less, due to kind of some compression of raw data into ANN coefficients) of volume of all information you want to be really searcheable, without "gallucinations".
What they are building is in no way an AI.
They believe that they will get a giant surveillance system with ability to give an instant answer to the question like f.e. "what existing private data could be used to charge and arrest John Smith?" and all things like that. They think that LLM is a sophisticated worldwide database search that don't need any special knowledge for use. (that will not work, but they are in no way smart enough to understand that)
There is no any AI companies, because none of what marketed as AI has anything to do with any Intelligence.
Funny, that in English, word "intelligence" have two meanings - one is "manifestation of consciousness" and another is "gathering of reconnaissance data". If you don't have enough skills to break out of marketing shit about "AI", try to imagine that in "Artificial Intelligence" they all talk about, "Itelligence" have nothing to do with consciousness, but is "Intelligence" exactly like in CIA abbreviation. Then you have a chance to get what is really happening.
Please, try to imagine for a second, that under "AI", those who push all that AI bullshit you happily swallow, they mean only "Automatic CIA", not what you was told. Things become much more clear, and reasons for all that hype and marketing lies will be unveiled for you. This is not a correct description of their "AI", but it is exactly what they believe they pay for.
I'm extremely tired to explain why all that "AI" shit have nothing to do with AI from technical point of view. Seems nobody who are wailing about "AI" have no any desire to learn how things really work and so clearly get that no any "AI" can be built that way, because it is "CoMPleX!!!", "awful MatH!!!!", "I don't need to know how computers really work to use my smartphone!!!" and all that stuff.
And more importantly, it is when LLM decides to do that on its own, without ever being prompted to or programmed to
Exactly. And all things in programming that could theoretically become a way to that declared "bad programming practices" long time ago. And I think that was done with purpose.
Real Ai is a death sentence to the modern system. They will never allow anything even similar to this.
It's about how computers really work. Starting another instance of existing software is not replication by any measure. Your computer do that routinely when needed, without any "AI" and apropriate hype.
Replication for case of LLM is when LLM will be able produce, as its output, new full LLM code and train it from scratch with own data, producing a real replica of a parent. Thing, that is completely different from what described in article.
So, "scientists" discovered that there exist fork() syscall?
Self-replication of programs is not a news since Morris worm.
Funny, that it is anglosaxon arrogance is a cause of the hell that currently happen.
May be it was a bad idea for Brits to baselessly imagine themselves a "Queen of Seas", borrowing money from Jews and all that idiocy?
It was so easy - just mind your business in your own countries, and don't play in Jewish games. But you rob that colonies, thinking in your arrogance that you will never pay the price, but reality does not have to align with your arrogant beliefs. :) Enjoy all that degenerates trashing your atomized nation.
Next time, when you will hear howling from the yet another mosque built in center of yet another city, thank your dumb rulers and your fellow compatriots who was glad to make wealth on stuff stolen from those, who now destroy your culture, traditions and everything you like.
Amaising. Arrogance is what killing your people, but you can't give it up.
You can't have a ethnic ressurection without ethnic unity. It's not aboust laws, its about everything. Atomized individuals have no any chance.
Nobody fear white anglosaxon men. White anglosaxon men become an example of arrogance, ignorance and cowardice.
White anglosaxon men should start with abandoning being absolute shabbesgoys for Jews, say goodbye to arrogance, educate itself at least a little and get some courage. Then, may be, white anglosaxon men will have a chance to gain some respect.
White anglosaxon men is not a center of universe. Just yet another etnicity bought into jewish bullshit of freedumb and demonocracy, willingly exchanging his future for instant comfort, stock gambling and feeling of self-importance.
Sorry, but your desperate and sincere propaganda just don't have ears to be heard anymore. Last time white anglosaxon men show some passionarity was US Revolution 250 years ago. And then, quickly sold all of it to the Jews.
It was unpleasant discovery for me almost two decades ago, when white anglosaxon friend from Montana told me in some trivial talk about nothing and booze, that he is afraid to build a distillator for making moonshine for himself because of laws and neighbours who will immidiately snitch on him. It could look insignificant, but that's a very bad and very clear sign for a nation. Obedience to the obviously stupid law and readiness to snitch on their own for that is an absolute no go for anything you want to call for.
To make your call at least heard, white anglosaxon men should start from the very beginning - began to be afraid to betray his neighbours and fellows more than of any stupid law. And that's not that easy to achieve in the current state of anglosaxons.
And calling to do anything in that state of etnicity will end bad for those of yours who still have some brain and courage. Any niggers or jews will easily defeat this lone warriors and things become only worse.
Mutual trust and support inside etnicity is what you need to restore first. I don't see that in anglosaxons at all. Celts (Irish, f.e.) , Greeks. Italians - they losing it, but still have. It is imaginable that one Irish man in trouble could meet another Irish man, f.e. abroad, and say, "I'm Irish, you Irish too, help me, buddy". Not that latter somehow obliged to help, but they feel some ethnic unity. But with anglosaxons it is unimaginable situation. Anglosaxons lost it completely long ago. IDK why, but thats it.
Unfortunately, those rich lists like Forbes are compiled from public lists of legal stock ownership
What about land ownership registers or whatever other sources? Forbes is MSM and can't be accounted as reliable source for obvious reasons.
people like cartel leaders where there aren't legal records of their wealth.
I don't think cartel leaders anywhere near even with hired personnel like corporations CEO's. Cartels absolutely can't exist without assistance of three-letter agencies and border guards that cost much more than anything cartels ever saw in their lives. It is not their money, it is a money of those who control three-letter agencies. Those who lobbying one or another three-letter agency head get most drug money, cartels are just their workforce.
Geiger counters are cheap and easy-to-buy things today. This will work much worse than coronahoax, because those who have brains will have undeniable, easily checked by anybody proof of no any rised radiation levels.
Radiation is not "invisible" today, and it can't be emulated by fraudlent PCR tests that could be sourced only from BigPharma and can't be checked by users.
Make a list of most rich ones, you will not be far from what you want. I mean really rich, in personal wealth. not some CEOs who just juggle someone else money.
Do you really believe this horseshit?
That's what my buddies from European countries told me. No, they are not even like us on that forum, just regular people with hands from right place and decent brains. And even they become to suspect that something going wrong, only during coronahoax. May be only few do that earlier, noticing growing inflow of immigrants with incomatible cultures.
As if "Europeans" is an entity of its own that gets to make such plans or the common European suddenly woke up and decided he doesn't like mining resources anymore.
Most Europeans are under the severe brainwashing propaganda, telling them that EU is an Edem on Earth and all they need to do is to sit under the trees in this wonderful garden and get free fruits. European elites literally pay them to abandon any productive activity, may be you heard about European farmers who was offered payments for abandoning farming. Thing you probably didn't know is that many agreed. European tax system is forcing people to decline higher salaries, because due to nonlinear progressive tax they will ger less money they get with lower salary. This happen even with my European buddies personally. And all that small things introduced by authorities, designed to turn Europeans into a World's welfarers mostly accepted without any questioning.
European elites infect Europeans with arrogance at astonishing pace.
Things are better in Eastern Europe, may be because of critical thinking vaccination during Soviet period, may be because better education during that period, may be both. But even there things are the same, just the rate is lower due to higher resistance.
Most interesting difference is between West and East Germany. I think you heard something about that.
Separate thing is Baltic states. Lithuania is still somehow going, they have some agricultural industry, but other two - Latvia and Estonia turned into complete void. No industry, no agriculture, nothing. Just living on EU welfare.
All in all, only some Eastern Europe countries have a chance to avoid such destiny.
Europe is in reality a vasal territory of the Anglo-American establishment.
Yes, but the problem is that most Europeans don't see that and worse - don't want to see that. Things revealed at the time of coronahoax didn't stop, they are progressing further.
If people are willingly marching into abyss, and don't want to listen anything, then let them.
Something similar in methods was done to Ukrainians, but it started earlier, in 1991. EU brainwashing started later, approx in early 2000. So, in the best case Europeans have only 10 years to the complete zombification, but many are already zombies, who could not be turned into humans back anymore.
I thought people here know the rule of thumb that major changes in the economy, culture and society like this don't happen randomly but are engineered from above, even if one isn't familiar with the particular agenda behind the events.
At least, anyone could just ignore that changes. But unfortunately, Europeans widely accepted them. All that LGBTXYZ+ crap, "climate change" and so on. Nobody actually forced Europeans to buy EV cars (and no, gas/diesel prices was not really prohibiting), they do that voluntary, believing in "climate change" narrative and selling themselves for insignificant tax deductions, imaginary economy on fuel and virtue signalling. I know people who still riding 1990s cars in Europe and they are far from bankruptcy, not being millionaries. It was really easy to just ignore all that brainwashing, in the beginning but they didn't.
Interesting, we in Russia walk through economic disaster much more severe than anything ever happened in any Western European country. Even Greece economic problems looks like nice breeze in comparison. Fuel prices doubled in a week, but that didn't make anybody to turn down on owning a car and choose public transport. 24/7 MSM propaganda of liberal values at the time didn't make us tolerant to faggots. And so on. So, economy and state propaganda is not the real reason. When population don't give a fuck, nothing will work.
There is also a huge problem behind all this nobody talk about. Let's imagine that somehow last sane Europeans won and got rid of globohomo ZOG. And get a county where majority are zombies. There is no way you could somehow revive them. Recall your attempts to talk about coronahoax with, say, neighbour who bought into that crap. That's it. That zombies will not change their minds and become useful just because good people took over. To the any attempt to dezombify them, they will scream, demand their welfare, attack you with intention to actually kill you. How to deal with all that zombie crowd? Assuming those who took over globohomos are good people, killing zombies is not an option. In the end they are still people, even former ones, living beings. Feed them for nothing will be too expensive. Keep all that useless jobs they used to will multiply any efforts to restore country by zero. And so on. I have no any good solution, even don't know where to start, and barely anybody know too. The "best" I could imagine is to allow that society of zombies to collapse. So, here we are.
Agree. This is a weird thing with all ancient images of celestial phenomenas.
Take a notice, how thoroughly this idiotic human face on the image of Sun (or Moon, or both on other pictures) is pictured. So, artist is definitely skilled enough to draw details. But everything really importnat is pictured at infant level, suddenly.
And no, it is not some "artist can't draw a thing he didn't know". It is a bullshit. If you show some complex device completely unknown for a decent artist or even to a child with minimum drawing skills, who could draw a human face recognisingly, he will have no any problems to draw that unknown device with proper details.
I even did an experiment on that matter with my young niece who have some talent for drawing when I met with that phenomena. I asked her to draw by memory a recently overhauled car alternator I had in garage. It was pictured perfectly even with some details I never actually noticed, like a contour of a place where lost label with partnumber and stuff was glued. She didn't know what it is and never really draw anything technical, apart from garden tools or cars.
Either an artist wasn't a witness of phenomena and draw a picture from a very bad textual description, either this is a hoax.
The problem is that ALL such pictures drawn that way. It is improbable that from hundreds of such pictures none of artists was a witness and ALL of them pictured only from poor textual description.
It is Europeans make themselves poor.
Europe is as rich with resources as Russia or Canada. Actually they don't need to buy anything abroad, they could mine everything they need just from under their feet.
Fuel: Enormous reserves of coal under Poland, Germany Britain and France. Oil is under the european shelf, under Scandinavia Britain, Ireland, Iceland and Nothern Spain. Natural gas under the Midterranian sea beach. Uranium could be mined right near Paris without much problems. It's not even very deep there. There is enough uranium near Paris to fuel all European nuclear plants for centuries.
Metal ore: Everywhere. European soil is reach with iron. Copper is in Italy, Greece and Cyprus. (Cyprus mean Copper in ancient Greek).
So called "rare-earths": Midterranian beach is full of rare-earths. Scandinavia too. Fuck, nearly half of all rare-earths named after European locations:
- Europium: Obviusly named after Europe itself
- Terbium: Named after the Swedish town of Ytterby
- Holmium: Latin 'holmia' for the old name of Stockholm.
- Erbium: Named after the Swedish town of Ytterby (again)
- Thulium: Named after the old name of Scandinavia, 'Thule'
- Ytterbum: Named after the Swedish town of Ytterby (once again)
- Lutetium: Named after the Roman name 'Lutetia' for Paris.
- Yttrium: Named after the small town of Ytterby (are they kidding me?)
- Scandium: Named because it was found in Scandinavia.
And so on.
Europeans become too lazy and arrogant to even think about mining absolutely everything they need for their industry and wealth by themselves. They think somebody should provide them all that stuff for their colored paper and they will teach everybody around about how to live and what to think.
So fuck them. They live on the reach reserves and don't bother to dig them out.
It is like to live near a lake full of fish surrounded by the forest full of game and all kind of berries and mashrooms, along with endless wood for building and fire, and constantly whine about severe starvation, cold, homelessnes being too lazy to make a fishing rod, bow and axe - they are their own enemies and fully deserve everything what will happen with them.
If Europeans prefer to have a ski resort in Alps instead of rare-earth mine, overpriced Paris suburbs instead of Uranium factory or luxury realty in Nice instead of Lithium quarry - then let them source all what their industry need from sole existence of this luxury properties. Fuck this arrogant beggars.
In the worst case, it would be wrapped into some narrative, say, something like "Greenland is a colony, Denmark reject its colonial past and allow inhabitants to choose own way, unlike all that totalitarians and dictators everybody don't like".
USA government and MIC needs NATO much more than Europe. EU already trying to create some EU own military structures, and somehow ressurect own MIC. USA on the opposite, will prefer complete destruction of EU manufacturing to sell more weapons.
Notice that USA MIC will sell weapons to Europe for USD. USD market shrinked significantly, and USA elites need some replacement for petrodollar scam to continue to export inflation. They urgently need somebody who will value USD for something, in case of NATO it is weapons.
Since NATO is a purely commercial organsation built to sell US weapons and license US military standards to Europe, I highly doubt US will ever abandon NATO in any way. Without NATO nobody need overpriced and inferior US MIC production.
On the opposite, it is probable that now US will force other NATO members to significantly rise weapons and license purchases.
There was numerous airforce clashes (real, with shooting and may be even with shot down planes) between Turkey and Greece, both NATO countries. Nothing happened, it was just sweeped under the rug, and nobody in Europe allowed to talk about that at the time.
Technocracy without meritocracy inevitably turn into idiocracy. I don't see even slightest signs of trying to implement meritocracy anywhere in the world, not even talking about West where kakistocracy (the direct opposite of meritocracy) established in full force.
So, you are talking about idiocracy, not technocracy, and yes, USA government is second to none in establishing world idiocracy order.
Trump needs a distraction from his plan with Venezuelan oil.
Not my fucking business, really, but from outside it looks more like Trump needs a distraction from the question of Epstein files and names of his masters in them.
Exactly my point, you're stuck in the physicist's trap.
And to "untrap" I, obviously have to believe in some unproven and poorly written garbage.
No, thank you. I don't need that unscientific shit to know that modern cellphone infrastructure, including social media is harmful for people. I don't need to refer to some authority to understand the harm and how exactly, and by whom it is done to the people.
You demand something that isn't required to show harm
Harm of what exactly? How do you know it is RF, if no any RF parameters measured and even RF presence is not proven?
There are some proposed underlying mechanisms, but it's not yet clear.
So no proof that such mechanisms exist. Case closed.
If a scientist don't care about what is really happens in his experiment, then he is not a scientist.
However the harm is still clear regardless.
Even if we don't take into account that none of studies you believe in was independently replicated, you still don't want to know harm of what exactly was studied. Just like that "scientists" who published their papers.
Interesting, that you are obviously trying not to convince me that phones are harmful, because I already know that, and seems that I know much more about that than you, but to convince me to believe in some papers written by some ignorant people who actually don't know shit about things they write about.
Do you understand that you are trying to do exactly same harm, corporations and authorities do using phones? Force people to blindly believe in some narrative, referring to some "experts". Looks like you are on the same side. It does not matter what narrative is pushed, the main thing is to break critical thinking and force subject to blindly believe some "authority".
Again, effects of what you are talking about? Authors didn't provide any sensible information that could be used to figure out what exactly they studied.
Sorry but that is pure and simple denial.
Yes, I deny garbage. This paper is a garbage and I carefully pointed out why exactly.
The engineer or physicist writes off all biological effects
There is no such separate and special thing as "biological effects". Biology works on the same physical principles as all other things in the world. It is in no way special.
If you want to introduce some additional effect or principle, in addition to physical one, in biology or medicine, then you have to describe its exact mechanism on the lowest possible level and prove it on this level, prove it with a simple, replicateable and clean experiment, that EM wave of RF could interact with a matter in some new, unknown way. And only then, you will be able to bring some ground for your baseless statement about "biological effects".
Without that, any "study" you could bring will be nothing more than bullshit. Not any different from a study about "we give a drink to one group from a random puddle, and other group from a tap and get different results" without providing full chemical analysis of water from puddle and from tap and describing exact mechanisms that gave results observed. That's not a science, it is a mockery of science and sanity. "Study" you brought here is nothing more than senseless torture of mice for the sake of getting publication score.
You don't get to dismiss the 100 studies reviewed
I do. Review is not a replication. Review is not a discovery of a new way of RF interaction with a matter.
And it is a pattern already, when scientists fall to writing reviews of multiple studies, then it is a clear sign that they know shit about things they review.
It is not a coincidence that biology and medicine are infamous for a very high rate of "review studies", much higher than in all other areas together. You will not find "review studies" in optics or reology. You will not find "review studies" in thermodynamics or chemistry. Because there are no any need for them.
Also, "review studies" is known for dismissing all studies that does not fit reviewer point. So, I wouldn't be amased at all, if there is another 100 studies (probably of same garbage quality as 100 reviewed) that show complete opposite results.
You don't get to invoke some grand conspiracy among researchers (paid for by no one) to deny all the findings.
There is no any findings. And the worst thing is that they don't need them. Current, completely broken state of biology and medicine is perfectly fine for making careers and acquiring funding, so nothing will change in observable future.
And then, people like you, pointing to that garbage, proclaim "its science!", just like that Fauci bastard, without even understanding how real science looks like. And no, publication in scientific journal does not make science from garbage.
But the same effects are shown over and over again.
But somehow new, undiscovered way of RF interaction with a matter didn't pop up yet . If you think it is normal, then I have a bridge to sell you.
However, your objections tend to favor the effects being DOWNPLAYED not OVERSTATED
To talk about some effects, you have to properly describe effects of what exactly you are talking about.
This description is completely absent, because "800-1900MHz with SAR from FCC certificate" is not a description at all. It is a "magic spell" copied from FCC certification paper without any understanding of its meaning.
This is the thing that makes this whole article a complete bullshit and with high probability just yet another fake, as many articles in biology and medicine are.
Interesting, how many articles from same Nature about coronahoax you accept as facts? I hope zero. Then why do you think this article is somehow different? Just because it support a narrative you like? But it is still a narrative, and it is still a fraudlent article for the sake of publishing article.
Science is not about things you like.
"Only heat, only heat" That is a pure denialist industry line, and not surprising from someone who gets visibly upset when presented with facts about low intensity microwave studies.
There is no single study about any other effects that is written scientifically and replicated.
"Facts" you see in all that stidies is no any different from "facts" from coronahoax studies, published in same journals.
Unfortunately, today 95% of biochemistry/medical studies are unreplicateable garbage or just fraudlent. There is absolutely no sense to blindly believe any without heavy critical analisys. And if any inconsistency is found, study should be discarded.
So I sure as hell wouldn't want to be subjected to a medical therapy 24/7 for something meant to be 10-15 minutes for a limited number of sessions
UHF therapy device have around 30-300W of power with directed antennas. 10-15 minutes of UHF therapy a day is much more energy than whole day with actively transmitting phone.
contraindications (including pregnancy, which relates to that rat study).
It is not wise to heat a fetuse in a womb. Regardless of a method.
Remember, chemotherapy is a therapy, but it's also a poison. It has it's place, and that place is few and far between, not forced onto the public.
This is not a reason to run around and yell bullshit about f.e. "There is awful poisonous aluminium oxide found in <whatever food>!!!".
There is real and obvious harm of cellular phones and smartphones for people. They are used by corporations and authorities for surveillance and control of population. Isn't that enough to make a good, honest and undeniable anti-modern-mobile propaganda? But instead of fighting or mitigating this real harm, I see tons of bullshit "studies", memes, posts and other fearmongering in all areas except the main and only real one.
This is insanity.
Instead of trying to scare audience with yet another bullshit, why don't you try to write a post that explain how any phone with OS and software from Apple, Google and other shitty corporations constantly steal and sell user private data, even private data of user contacts, user time (through ugly and idiotic interface), and whole user life spent in stupid applications? It is much more harmful for human brain and life than any possible tiny heating of human body surface layers with a very moderate RF power.
Why do you think that society is really divided by left/right political bullshit?
Why not, say, it is "those who have hands from the right place" vs "those who cant even replace a wall socket"?
Who are "left" you talk about? Are they who vote for democrats or may be they are those who put something higher than profit? Or may be they are "zombies who will carry out orders without question"? In the latter case your question have no any sense.
It is a good intention to try to find a way to determine zombie beforehand. But to have a sensible conversation in that matter you need to define your terms and explain preconditions you introduce.