I watched the first 10 minutes, plus a number of minutes a few years ago. They were trying to tell us that they had 50,000-100,000 people work the same project for 20 years with technology nobody else had and probably some spiritually guarded revelations. Plus they told us about their recognition of geography, astronomy, and theology. And they wanted their memory to last for millennia. What do you think they were trying to tell us?
Interesting…I was aware that the use of irregular polygonally shaped stones made the overall structures more earthquake resistant, but never considered your line of thought, that the structure’s overall shape would be ideal for anchoring it against the presence of massive flows of water (which as im sure you know, the Sphinx enclosure shows indisputable evidence of)
When I first learned about the disaster cycle, the fishing weights and the pyramids were my first thought. I still think the pryamids were a cast in place polymer. It would explain the lack of gaps between the stones because the existing stones would become part of the form for the next pour. Me and my construction background....
Oh! That's a good punchline. So when were the pyramids built relative to the collected catastrophe dates of Randall Carlson, and should we adjust any of his dates or correlate them to actual epoch points for the procession as presented by James Kaler?
Carlson:
144000 BP Salian climate shift
120000 BP Alika 2 megaslide & tsunami Hawaii
117000 BP terminal substage SE climate shift
~104000 BP Greenland blitz
~84000 BP Odderade event & Osis 21
72000 BP Toba super eruption near extinction of humans
65000 BP Heinreich event 6
52000 BP Heinreich event 5 Osis 14, 15
40000 BP 1st phase Australian megafauna extinction
39000 BP Heinrich event 4
26000 BP final extinction of Australian megafauna
26000 BP onset of late Wisconsin ice age
23000 BP Heinrich event 2
12900 BP onset of Younger Dryas climate catastrophe
10000 BP end of Wisconsin ice age
~4320 BP Burkle crater event & tsunami? (Noah's flood?)
Kaler (with present at 2000 AD and epoch of 26100):
Aquarius 25400 - 23700
Capricornus 23700 - 21800
Sagittarius 21800 - 19500
Scorpius 19500 - 17800
Libra 17800 - 16100
Virgo 16100 - 12800
Leo 12800 - 10100
Cancer 10100 - 8600
Gemini 8600 - 6500
Taurus 6500 - 4000
Aries 4000 - 2100
Pisces 2100 -
So #16 is ~300 years before beginning of Aries, #15 is ~100 years after end of Leo, #14 is ~100 years before beginning of Leo, #13 is ~700 years after end of Aquarius, #12 and #11 are ~600 years before beginning of Aquarius, is that the correlation intended? And one theory on this is that the precession might coincidentally correspond to a Planet Nine orbit that causes meteors at just these cusps for some reason relating to four biaxial Oort-like encounters?
I think the case is pretty convincing that the Sphinx was constructed during the age of Leo, facing the direction of Leo. I think it’s reasonable to link the Sphinx construction date and the great Pyramid construction date, though to what extent is debatable. Suffice it to say that atleast part of the complex was constructed in alignment with the age of Leo.
(Other than the mismatch in significant digits), Those numbers all seem fine as a jumping off point. It should be noted that “onset of the younger dryas” at 12,900 and “end of Wisconsin ice age” (~11,700 years according to google) would be describing the two boundaries of one cataclysm, not two different ones 1,000 years apart. Which is to say that this should all be approached with the recognition that “fuzziness” in the numbers is inescapable, and thus to let that be the core of any objection is, imo, a disingenuous approach, so hopefully we don’t see that tact.
And one theory on this is that the precession might coincidentally correspond to a Planet Nine orbit that causes meteors at just these cusps for some reason relating to four biaxial Oort-like encounters?
That’s a theory, for sure. I think there are atleast a few others worth considering as well. Namely geomagnetic pole drifts/excursions/reversals, Milankovich (solar forcing) cycles, “cosmic environment” theories (along the lines of the ‘Electric Universe’ theory). Probably others im forgetting or have never come across.
While suspending my judgment for the purposes of the roundtable, how does the pyramid point to this whole cycle of cataclysms? What value would it have had in relation to any of these events, other than to be something that might survive global flood? And your big reason for backdating the sphinx is that the sphinx would then be looking at Leo at sunrise in spring only rather than in winter only? And you don't know what brought on the cataclysms on this list (as opposed to others) but it just neatly aligned with these precession eras as if some hand were guiding them to align?
How about this: A real conspiracy would be if geologists conspired to ensure that cataclysm dates would align roughly with precession dates such that they could be compiled into such a list later to prove the zodiac had power. That seems a lot easier than having spirits actually align all these events and actually cause all that damage for real. It also seems wiser not to ascribe too much to those spirits when we know they like to lie about numbers and correlations. Just spitballing.
how does the pyramid point to this whole cycle of cataclysms… other than to be something that might survive global flood?
Asked and answered, though oddly treated as if that isn’t a direct answer to the question… remember, the idea is that the site itself is built in recognition of the Precession (pointing to Leo in the Age of Leo) - its only “goal” or “purpose” at that point is to survive the next cataclysm.
And you don't know what brought on the cataclysms on this list
Not sure i follow. You can go look up all of these events and see what modern science considers potential causes. For example the Toba Catastrophe it was (likely) a super-volcano eruption. For the Younger Dryas it was (likely) a glacial asteroid impact causing global flooding. These - surficially unconnected - catastrophes turn out to follow a repeating 26,000 year cycle, according to our best (fuzzy) data. That demands further inquiry, so if your statement here is meant to express a kind of “move along, nothing to see here” attitude, I think that’s flat backwards.
Regarding your spitballing, that would require proving the Precession, which is fact, has no effect, which is frankly an insane thing to assume, and furthermore refuted by even a cursory look into the notion of the “Ages” of man. That could be an interesting subject for a spin-off thread. You should make it!
Okay so you want the whole thing built in Leo. And you've also described the Leo era as one big cataclysm from Younger Dryas to end of Wisconsin Ice Age, and the pyramid and sphinx are designed therein to survive that extant crisis, and presumably the next one?
But if we went full credulous and favored the "neatness" of the theory, the reason that meteors and volcanoes follow this exact timeframe (and presumably never any other to that degree) would still be unstated. The mechanisms you propose don't match up, as there's nothing in the earth's axial tilt that makes these epoch significant for space phenomena.
What is significant is a bunch of Homo sapiens seeing (for now let's stick with) bull, ram, fish, man in the sky, and creating a narrative of epochs of roughly 2,000 years out of that, and then fitting all kinds of other data around it. And in particular both demons and humans would have an interest in using that to claim a greater correlation with past events. So that gives me a little more credence for the idea that the greater phenomenon is the selling of the narrative than the actual sky events. For instance, if we get enough people believing we should have an ELE between now and 2700 AD then maybe we can manifest it; that's a much greater causative potential than the fact that the Sphinx literally sees Aquarius this next Easter morn. I mean, it would stand to reason that much more would be made of what the people are excited about the sphinx seeing, than could be made of a clockwork dislodging of an asteroid or tectonic shift that some how relates to the distant constellation.
Because you and the sources never jump to THE END IS NEAR even though the natural corollary is that the dawning of the Age of Aquarius brings extinction and a total civilization wipe. You've taken several tries of not formulating evidence just for me to get to this much understanding of the evidence on my own, in spite of the "help" given. You're not one of those creepy glowies who keep feeding the other person hints until the other draws the conclusion on his own and thinks it his own and gets blamed for being the millenarian, are you?
Look, 9/11 becomes just a visualization exercise under that hypothesis, of course we know the cabal wants us to believe the cataclysm is nigh. What good is a predictive theory if it isn't used to predict anything except that if I apply the narrative it predicts my own demise? I already have a fine, much more detailed narrative theory connected to cataclysms during the coming of The Man, thank you very much. Better ending too.
So (without arguing the math and science) why don't you just jump right to the end being near with this theory? 35,100 more weeks!
It’s odd to hear from a Christian that he sees absolutely no (non-demonic-)significance behind the fact that his people chose the fish as their symbol, 2000 years ago, precisely coincident with the dawn of the age of pisces. Nor that this piscean age overthrew the age of the Ram, a common sacrifice of the previous age of Aries, which itself overthrew the age of the (brass, burning) bull. Aquarius, the water bearer is now the current age. Well, it wouldn’t be the craziest thing to call this the (dawn of the) age of women.
Because you and the sources never jump to THE END IS NEAR…why don’t you…?
even though the natural corollary is that the dawning of the Age of Aquarius brings extinction and a total civilization wipe.
That’s not quite it though is it - it represents not “guaranteed extinction” but “great upheaval” or even “tribulation”. You know what else was a great upheaval which kicks off a grand adventure or journey? Leaving the Garden. The Flood. The Rapture. All things you’re intimately familiar with.
The "Age of Aquarius" is New Age propaganda that uses the zodiac and impossible to confirm "ages" to date this "age of aquarius" or "age of pisces", which OP tries to promote.
Watch the documentary, their only argument is that the Sphinx looked like a lion and was pointed towards a theoretical position that has nothing to do with the constelations.
I know exactly any trap u/Graphenium may lay, my fren. In the prior threads I debunked the data pretty heavily (searchable if you like), but in this one since he wanted it as a roundtable I laid off from being quite so critical.
I find that God always is in any symbol before the devil can corrupt it. God put the stars in place, he calls the primary ones the Mazzaroth in the AV, and that includes what became known as the 48 constellations of the zodiac. He tells Job that the stars have specific functions, specifically the belt of what we call Orion, and others. The astronomical fact that the New Age plays off of is that the vernal sunrise takes place in Aquarius (is cusping there from Pisces over the next couple hundred years, it being a general period not making it less significant); and that we had three previous eras of about 2,000 years of Taurus, then Aries, then Pisces for the same vernal sunrise. This has a match to God's stated purposes for these eras and also to indications he works in millennial eras, this being the beginning of the seventh millennium. So I redirect the New Age stuff to points like that.
It might interest you both to be refreshed that the four constellations at cardinal points, Scorpius (as a winged serpent), Leo (lion), Taurus (bull), Aquarius (waterman), correspond to tribal affiliations of the four cardinal tribes among the twelve, which also (with eagle meaning winged serpent) correspond to the vision of Ezekiel 1 and to the four gospels traditionally symbolized as four aspects of Jesus's ministry. Matthew bull means Servant, Mark lion means King, Luke man means Son of Man, John eagle means Son of God. Let's look up the other one: Num. 2 has Judah east, Reuben south, Ephraim of Joseph west, Dan north, and Gen. 49 has Reuben waterman, Judah lion, Dan serpent, and Joseph only "strength" for the bull; but Deut. 33 has Joseph bull. This means that when the congregation camped, if they used tribal banners corresponding to their corresponding blessings, they would mimic on earth the shape of the zodiac in heaven.
Interesting to me, though, the order is not exactly the same; which suggests that the correspondence is not a map but an indication of paradigms that have some flexibility. For application it appears intended that God wants us to have an understanding of four paradigmatic personality types and roles indicated by these symbols, which can be expanded to twelve when detail is needed, and that these roles also form a sequence in the order of salvation (just as Virgo plays a role in Rev. 12 and seems to start the narrative cycle): serpent for sin, man for humility, bull for service, lion for reign.
The idea that the constellations can be used narratively as paradigms is wholly consonant with Scripture. Astrologers have so warped our understanding of the narrative that we forget that God put it there in the first place and abrogate our right to reclaim the zodiac for his original purposes. (In particular, by placing creation and flood as bookmarks in the key time of Taurus, the tribulation/rapture might be indicated in this key time of the beginning of Aquarius. That part I affirm, but I've pointed out the failure of science to demonstrate the validity of any of the other dates Graph bends over backwards for. In fact, with the irregularity of his schedule, it might be argued that he is more likely to predict the present to yield a nothingburger or an extinction than it is to yield an awakening, but on the young-earth schedule it's a certainty to yield an awakening to anyone who desires. So I don't know why he sticks with the weaker and corrupting version if that's his goal.)
The other part is clearly special pleading. Two hours to say the "lion" points east. That means he does look at whatever constellation has the vernal sunrise, but it's 100% silly IMHO to backdate him six thousand years just so that he can look at Leo when he's built. And only in spring. Equally silly to say he shoulda been a bull because he was looking at Taurus. And only in spring. That's arguing against facts, not from them. And ultimately, yes, the New Age throws out inconvenient facts because their purpose is not actually the promotion of some lion narrative but the actual destruction of the facts in people's minds by confusion, obfuscation, and manipulation. Raising consciousness via impotence. Graph is very tenacious, so you feel free to see if you can shake him off a mantra, but on this one I've said plenty and will hold off on slamming it further unless there's interest (this comment may already slam too much).
I did, and I thought I had your approval to do so when you said you wouldn't be likely to be the mod, but when you withdrew your approval I stopped making light of myself. I am compelled to disagree with your idea that moderating a living Scored community for 5 years is doing nothing.
I recall there being discussion about how we didn't need mods to get roundtables going and anybody could do it, but now you want a position of giving prior approval to do something that previously could be done by anyone without prior approval?
I see that I misapplied your comment about me to u/Graphenium because you're generating so many pings. Not only that but it's called "derailing" when you fly off on a tangent in a completely different thread, especially if you use the same comment multiple times.
You suggest we "make a pool" for discussion, proposing "Rules" (like a mod) such as "Expose shills" (meta), adding "I don't review this forum daily" (which you later castigate others about not doing enough of) and "If you think that I shouldn't start this - make a DISCUSSION post about your best conspiracy topic" (which u/Graphenium does and you castigate him for).
I support your idea by being the only one to propose a topic, and I note the mod absence before anyone this cycle, "maybe we need a new mod".
You reply "I agree - no moderation in quite some time... Seems like an echo chamber in here... And if we don't fix it, who will?" and "I am an absolute idiot in moderation" (proposing the idea of you as mod before I propose me as mod) and "I can do the work - no problem for me, actually I like doing a lot of work... But if you can explain your words to a person, who was never a moderator" (though you are a Scored mod, and later say you have multiple communities but you only have one).
I continue deferring who the mod could be and explain how mods use stickies as you request.
You compliment me (is this simping?), "It's great that you're humble, but we need ideas! Honestly! Any idea is good", you notice "it's the only idea that is discussed" (the only answer to your question): then you give the big spitball (trial balloon), "this place has none active moderators... One solutions could be for you to create your own page and moderate it as well as you can, another would be to call for a community that would visit a forum and place certain people, that you trust, as moderators... If you want to create your own community, I will help with everything that I have. But I suck as a moderator. I can flag things for you, if you want, but I wouldn't want to make the final decisions. If you have an idea for a new commity, you have my full support! Many will benefit from such a place!" There you even ask me to select plural moderators and you offer to work for me but you don't apply it to modding this community for some reason, even though you discuss the idea of yourself modding this community.
I finally take your bait, "Well .... there are many ways to go with this .... This is also a situation where I'd consider moderating if the community would have me, because there isn't much burden there and I wouldn't promise anything other than objectivity .... I'll write something brief at Meta to see where it goes." Note that it's completely dependent on community approval, not appointment. At Meta I write among other things "Obviously, if u/Paleo or someone feels comfortable adding u/Neo1 and myself to the mod list as caretakers to see if anyone more ready-willing-able comes along, that seems like it would help".
You seal the deal: "Anyone here up to a vote? We need a moderator and u/SwampRangers offers his help. We have been without posts that unite our thinking for very long... We need a moderator urgently! Please cast your vote! It's ok if it is for yourself even .... You say you made 3 but you give up on your ego and promote a 4th one - not done by you... Respect for that! Honestly! I will visit them all, we need to expand! Hope others visit them too! .... You see collaboration and you work for it. I cast my vote for you as moderator of c/Conspiracies! To me, you have proven that you left your ego behind and you want to accomplish the goal of the community. That does come with challenges from shills that would want to break you, but I know you're better than me, so I cast my vote firmly towards a person that is able to defend his position and leave his ego - you! You didn't have to prove your worth, but you did it anyway, for the best of this community. I really hope you can help us forward! I hope we can vote for a moderator from this point on, so we can finalize it in a week. Anyone can cast their own votes. It's fine, if you vote for yourself even." You were speaking of simping?
So I promoted the two of us after you hypothesized yourself as mod first and after you proposed we two fix the lack of moderation.
Everything that came after that is all downhill from that deal. There had already been rival names suggested: I said in my reply to your vote "I'm losing track of how many people have suggested themselves for mod". A primary burr in your saddle was that I defended Will as harmless and wouldn't commit to ban him without giving him warnings. You didn't like my view on math, or forum-sliding, or Robert's Rules. Once you realized I wouldn't do everything you wanted, pfft. And bang bang.
Now you're saying you exposed some scheme of mine, which reads at first like projection. I see no crime whatsoever in the idea occurring to me that I might want to mod and my then discussing the subject neutrally, and, after you describe the hypothetical of you modding, my offering my services. But God will judge all schemes.
Further, by my saying I would go to Meta and your not saying anything about it, the maxim of the law is that silence betokens consent. So you approved. Struck, because you were offline; so what you approved of was us fixing the lack of moderation generically.
[Notice to professional debooonkers/local schitzos] watch the documentary before responding
I watched the first 10 minutes, plus a number of minutes a few years ago. They were trying to tell us that they had 50,000-100,000 people work the same project for 20 years with technology nobody else had and probably some spiritually guarded revelations. Plus they told us about their recognition of geography, astronomy, and theology. And they wanted their memory to last for millennia. What do you think they were trying to tell us?
Actually, if you keep watching, you see direct evidence that this same technology was in use around the world (literally)
The link between the Precession of the Equinoxes and cyclical global catastrophes.
To this point... Have you seen the shape of fishing weights for surf fishing? That's right, pryamid. That's why they didn't wash away. Just a thought
Interesting…I was aware that the use of irregular polygonally shaped stones made the overall structures more earthquake resistant, but never considered your line of thought, that the structure’s overall shape would be ideal for anchoring it against the presence of massive flows of water (which as im sure you know, the Sphinx enclosure shows indisputable evidence of)
Cheers man cool idea
When I first learned about the disaster cycle, the fishing weights and the pyramids were my first thought. I still think the pryamids were a cast in place polymer. It would explain the lack of gaps between the stones because the existing stones would become part of the form for the next pour. Me and my construction background....
So was this cast in place polymer extruded?
No idea. CIP (cast in place) is how concrete is poured.
how do the pyramids tell us about that link?
https://vimeo.com/521974505
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=i7qQEJW8K_U&pp=ygUbVGhlIG1pbGUgbXlzdGVyeSBhbGFuIGdyZWVu
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LGNjOD3J284&pp=ygUfam9obiBhbnRob255IHdlc3QgbWFnaWNhbCBlZ3lwdA%3D%3D
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=F-d4zfovcog&vl=en
Oh! That's a good punchline. So when were the pyramids built relative to the collected catastrophe dates of Randall Carlson, and should we adjust any of his dates or correlate them to actual epoch points for the procession as presented by James Kaler?
Carlson:
144000 BP Salian climate shift
120000 BP Alika 2 megaslide & tsunami Hawaii
117000 BP terminal substage SE climate shift
~104000 BP Greenland blitz
~84000 BP Odderade event & Osis 21
72000 BP Toba super eruption near extinction of humans
65000 BP Heinreich event 6
52000 BP Heinreich event 5 Osis 14, 15
40000 BP 1st phase Australian megafauna extinction
39000 BP Heinrich event 4
26000 BP final extinction of Australian megafauna
26000 BP onset of late Wisconsin ice age
23000 BP Heinrich event 2
12900 BP onset of Younger Dryas climate catastrophe
10000 BP end of Wisconsin ice age
~4320 BP Burkle crater event & tsunami? (Noah's flood?)
Kaler (with present at 2000 AD and epoch of 26100):
Aquarius 25400 - 23700
Capricornus 23700 - 21800
Sagittarius 21800 - 19500
Scorpius 19500 - 17800
Libra 17800 - 16100
Virgo 16100 - 12800
Leo 12800 - 10100
Cancer 10100 - 8600
Gemini 8600 - 6500
Taurus 6500 - 4000
Aries 4000 - 2100
Pisces 2100 -
So #16 is ~300 years before beginning of Aries, #15 is ~100 years after end of Leo, #14 is ~100 years before beginning of Leo, #13 is ~700 years after end of Aquarius, #12 and #11 are ~600 years before beginning of Aquarius, is that the correlation intended? And one theory on this is that the precession might coincidentally correspond to a Planet Nine orbit that causes meteors at just these cusps for some reason relating to four biaxial Oort-like encounters?
Here is a graphic which overlays these two sets of data:
https://sacredgeometryinternational.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/Cosmic_Patterns_and_Cycles_of_Catastrophe_The_Great_Year-676x419.jpg
I think the case is pretty convincing that the Sphinx was constructed during the age of Leo, facing the direction of Leo. I think it’s reasonable to link the Sphinx construction date and the great Pyramid construction date, though to what extent is debatable. Suffice it to say that atleast part of the complex was constructed in alignment with the age of Leo.
(Other than the mismatch in significant digits), Those numbers all seem fine as a jumping off point. It should be noted that “onset of the younger dryas” at 12,900 and “end of Wisconsin ice age” (~11,700 years according to google) would be describing the two boundaries of one cataclysm, not two different ones 1,000 years apart. Which is to say that this should all be approached with the recognition that “fuzziness” in the numbers is inescapable, and thus to let that be the core of any objection is, imo, a disingenuous approach, so hopefully we don’t see that tact.
That’s a theory, for sure. I think there are atleast a few others worth considering as well. Namely geomagnetic pole drifts/excursions/reversals, Milankovich (solar forcing) cycles, “cosmic environment” theories (along the lines of the ‘Electric Universe’ theory). Probably others im forgetting or have never come across.
While suspending my judgment for the purposes of the roundtable, how does the pyramid point to this whole cycle of cataclysms? What value would it have had in relation to any of these events, other than to be something that might survive global flood? And your big reason for backdating the sphinx is that the sphinx would then be looking at Leo at sunrise in spring only rather than in winter only? And you don't know what brought on the cataclysms on this list (as opposed to others) but it just neatly aligned with these precession eras as if some hand were guiding them to align?
How about this: A real conspiracy would be if geologists conspired to ensure that cataclysm dates would align roughly with precession dates such that they could be compiled into such a list later to prove the zodiac had power. That seems a lot easier than having spirits actually align all these events and actually cause all that damage for real. It also seems wiser not to ascribe too much to those spirits when we know they like to lie about numbers and correlations. Just spitballing.
Asked and answered, though oddly treated as if that isn’t a direct answer to the question… remember, the idea is that the site itself is built in recognition of the Precession (pointing to Leo in the Age of Leo) - its only “goal” or “purpose” at that point is to survive the next cataclysm.
Not sure i follow. You can go look up all of these events and see what modern science considers potential causes. For example the Toba Catastrophe it was (likely) a super-volcano eruption. For the Younger Dryas it was (likely) a glacial asteroid impact causing global flooding. These - surficially unconnected - catastrophes turn out to follow a repeating 26,000 year cycle, according to our best (fuzzy) data. That demands further inquiry, so if your statement here is meant to express a kind of “move along, nothing to see here” attitude, I think that’s flat backwards.
Regarding your spitballing, that would require proving the Precession, which is fact, has no effect, which is frankly an insane thing to assume, and furthermore refuted by even a cursory look into the notion of the “Ages” of man. That could be an interesting subject for a spin-off thread. You should make it!
Okay so you want the whole thing built in Leo. And you've also described the Leo era as one big cataclysm from Younger Dryas to end of Wisconsin Ice Age, and the pyramid and sphinx are designed therein to survive that extant crisis, and presumably the next one?
But if we went full credulous and favored the "neatness" of the theory, the reason that meteors and volcanoes follow this exact timeframe (and presumably never any other to that degree) would still be unstated. The mechanisms you propose don't match up, as there's nothing in the earth's axial tilt that makes these epoch significant for space phenomena.
What is significant is a bunch of Homo sapiens seeing (for now let's stick with) bull, ram, fish, man in the sky, and creating a narrative of epochs of roughly 2,000 years out of that, and then fitting all kinds of other data around it. And in particular both demons and humans would have an interest in using that to claim a greater correlation with past events. So that gives me a little more credence for the idea that the greater phenomenon is the selling of the narrative than the actual sky events. For instance, if we get enough people believing we should have an ELE between now and 2700 AD then maybe we can manifest it; that's a much greater causative potential than the fact that the Sphinx literally sees Aquarius this next Easter morn. I mean, it would stand to reason that much more would be made of what the people are excited about the sphinx seeing, than could be made of a clockwork dislodging of an asteroid or tectonic shift that some how relates to the distant constellation.
Because you and the sources never jump to THE END IS NEAR even though the natural corollary is that the dawning of the Age of Aquarius brings extinction and a total civilization wipe. You've taken several tries of not formulating evidence just for me to get to this much understanding of the evidence on my own, in spite of the "help" given. You're not one of those creepy glowies who keep feeding the other person hints until the other draws the conclusion on his own and thinks it his own and gets blamed for being the millenarian, are you?
Look, 9/11 becomes just a visualization exercise under that hypothesis, of course we know the cabal wants us to believe the cataclysm is nigh. What good is a predictive theory if it isn't used to predict anything except that if I apply the narrative it predicts my own demise? I already have a fine, much more detailed narrative theory connected to cataclysms during the coming of The Man, thank you very much. Better ending too.
So (without arguing the math and science) why don't you just jump right to the end being near with this theory? 35,100 more weeks!
It’s odd to hear from a Christian that he sees absolutely no (non-demonic-)significance behind the fact that his people chose the fish as their symbol, 2000 years ago, precisely coincident with the dawn of the age of pisces. Nor that this piscean age overthrew the age of the Ram, a common sacrifice of the previous age of Aries, which itself overthrew the age of the (brass, burning) bull. Aquarius, the water bearer is now the current age. Well, it wouldn’t be the craziest thing to call this the (dawn of the) age of women.
https://communities.win/c/TheDonald/p/15JU7rN3xg/this-is-whats-driving-all-the-ac/c
That’s not quite it though is it - it represents not “guaranteed extinction” but “great upheaval” or even “tribulation”. You know what else was a great upheaval which kicks off a grand adventure or journey? Leaving the Garden. The Flood. The Rapture. All things you’re intimately familiar with.
Really, this deserves its own thread.
The "Age of Aquarius" is New Age propaganda that uses the zodiac and impossible to confirm "ages" to date this "age of aquarius" or "age of pisces", which OP tries to promote.
Watch the documentary, their only argument is that the Sphinx looked like a lion and was pointed towards a theoretical position that has nothing to do with the constelations.
That's their only argument, and they can never prove it. I've watched the documentary, they certainly want you to believe the new age propaganda - https://duckduckgo.com/?q=the+age+of+aquarius+book&t=brave&ia=web
OP doesn't understand that he's promoting the new age movement. Don't fall into his trap.
I know exactly any trap u/Graphenium may lay, my fren. In the prior threads I debunked the data pretty heavily (searchable if you like), but in this one since he wanted it as a roundtable I laid off from being quite so critical.
I find that God always is in any symbol before the devil can corrupt it. God put the stars in place, he calls the primary ones the Mazzaroth in the AV, and that includes what became known as the 48 constellations of the zodiac. He tells Job that the stars have specific functions, specifically the belt of what we call Orion, and others. The astronomical fact that the New Age plays off of is that the vernal sunrise takes place in Aquarius (is cusping there from Pisces over the next couple hundred years, it being a general period not making it less significant); and that we had three previous eras of about 2,000 years of Taurus, then Aries, then Pisces for the same vernal sunrise. This has a match to God's stated purposes for these eras and also to indications he works in millennial eras, this being the beginning of the seventh millennium. So I redirect the New Age stuff to points like that.
It might interest you both to be refreshed that the four constellations at cardinal points, Scorpius (as a winged serpent), Leo (lion), Taurus (bull), Aquarius (waterman), correspond to tribal affiliations of the four cardinal tribes among the twelve, which also (with eagle meaning winged serpent) correspond to the vision of Ezekiel 1 and to the four gospels traditionally symbolized as four aspects of Jesus's ministry. Matthew bull means Servant, Mark lion means King, Luke man means Son of Man, John eagle means Son of God. Let's look up the other one: Num. 2 has Judah east, Reuben south, Ephraim of Joseph west, Dan north, and Gen. 49 has Reuben waterman, Judah lion, Dan serpent, and Joseph only "strength" for the bull; but Deut. 33 has Joseph bull. This means that when the congregation camped, if they used tribal banners corresponding to their corresponding blessings, they would mimic on earth the shape of the zodiac in heaven.
Interesting to me, though, the order is not exactly the same; which suggests that the correspondence is not a map but an indication of paradigms that have some flexibility. For application it appears intended that God wants us to have an understanding of four paradigmatic personality types and roles indicated by these symbols, which can be expanded to twelve when detail is needed, and that these roles also form a sequence in the order of salvation (just as Virgo plays a role in Rev. 12 and seems to start the narrative cycle): serpent for sin, man for humility, bull for service, lion for reign.
The idea that the constellations can be used narratively as paradigms is wholly consonant with Scripture. Astrologers have so warped our understanding of the narrative that we forget that God put it there in the first place and abrogate our right to reclaim the zodiac for his original purposes. (In particular, by placing creation and flood as bookmarks in the key time of Taurus, the tribulation/rapture might be indicated in this key time of the beginning of Aquarius. That part I affirm, but I've pointed out the failure of science to demonstrate the validity of any of the other dates Graph bends over backwards for. In fact, with the irregularity of his schedule, it might be argued that he is more likely to predict the present to yield a nothingburger or an extinction than it is to yield an awakening, but on the young-earth schedule it's a certainty to yield an awakening to anyone who desires. So I don't know why he sticks with the weaker and corrupting version if that's his goal.)
The other part is clearly special pleading. Two hours to say the "lion" points east. That means he does look at whatever constellation has the vernal sunrise, but it's 100% silly IMHO to backdate him six thousand years just so that he can look at Leo when he's built. And only in spring. Equally silly to say he shoulda been a bull because he was looking at Taurus. And only in spring. That's arguing against facts, not from them. And ultimately, yes, the New Age throws out inconvenient facts because their purpose is not actually the promotion of some lion narrative but the actual destruction of the facts in people's minds by confusion, obfuscation, and manipulation. Raising consciousness via impotence. Graph is very tenacious, so you feel free to see if you can shake him off a mantra, but on this one I've said plenty and will hold off on slamming it further unless there's interest (this comment may already slam too much).
u/SwampRangers used my post to promote himself as a mod to the community - https://communities.win/c/Meta/p/1ARK0LXq6i/cconspiracies-has-had-no-active-/ (1 day after I posted my original topic, and make note that he hasn't done anything of value to be a mod.)
I did, and I thought I had your approval to do so when you said you wouldn't be likely to be the mod, but when you withdrew your approval I stopped making light of myself. I am compelled to disagree with your idea that moderating a living Scored community for 5 years is doing nothing.
You did that 1 day after I wrote this post and WITHOUT MY APPROVAL.
You did that only to promote yourself using my post.
Woo hoo, look who knows so much.
I recall there being discussion about how we didn't need mods to get roundtables going and anybody could do it, but now you want a position of giving prior approval to do something that previously could be done by anyone without prior approval?
The irony thickens.
You're just butthurt because I exposed your schemes.
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I see that I misapplied your comment about me to u/Graphenium because you're generating so many pings. Not only that but it's called "derailing" when you fly off on a tangent in a completely different thread, especially if you use the same comment multiple times.
The sequence was:
You suggest we "make a pool" for discussion, proposing "Rules" (like a mod) such as "Expose shills" (meta), adding "I don't review this forum daily" (which you later castigate others about not doing enough of) and "If you think that I shouldn't start this - make a DISCUSSION post about your best conspiracy topic" (which u/Graphenium does and you castigate him for).
I support your idea by being the only one to propose a topic, and I note the mod absence before anyone this cycle, "maybe we need a new mod".
You reply "I agree - no moderation in quite some time... Seems like an echo chamber in here... And if we don't fix it, who will?" and "I am an absolute idiot in moderation" (proposing the idea of you as mod before I propose me as mod) and "I can do the work - no problem for me, actually I like doing a lot of work... But if you can explain your words to a person, who was never a moderator" (though you are a Scored mod, and later say you have multiple communities but you only have one).
I continue deferring who the mod could be and explain how mods use stickies as you request.
You compliment me (is this simping?), "It's great that you're humble, but we need ideas! Honestly! Any idea is good", you notice "it's the only idea that is discussed" (the only answer to your question): then you give the big spitball (trial balloon), "this place has none active moderators... One solutions could be for you to create your own page and moderate it as well as you can, another would be to call for a community that would visit a forum and place certain people, that you trust, as moderators... If you want to create your own community, I will help with everything that I have. But I suck as a moderator. I can flag things for you, if you want, but I wouldn't want to make the final decisions. If you have an idea for a new commity, you have my full support! Many will benefit from such a place!" There you even ask me to select plural moderators and you offer to work for me but you don't apply it to modding this community for some reason, even though you discuss the idea of yourself modding this community.
I finally take your bait, "Well .... there are many ways to go with this .... This is also a situation where I'd consider moderating if the community would have me, because there isn't much burden there and I wouldn't promise anything other than objectivity .... I'll write something brief at Meta to see where it goes." Note that it's completely dependent on community approval, not appointment. At Meta I write among other things "Obviously, if u/Paleo or someone feels comfortable adding u/Neo1 and myself to the mod list as caretakers to see if anyone more ready-willing-able comes along, that seems like it would help".
You seal the deal: "Anyone here up to a vote? We need a moderator and u/SwampRangers offers his help. We have been without posts that unite our thinking for very long... We need a moderator urgently! Please cast your vote! It's ok if it is for yourself even .... You say you made 3 but you give up on your ego and promote a 4th one - not done by you... Respect for that! Honestly! I will visit them all, we need to expand! Hope others visit them too! .... You see collaboration and you work for it. I cast my vote for you as moderator of c/Conspiracies! To me, you have proven that you left your ego behind and you want to accomplish the goal of the community. That does come with challenges from shills that would want to break you, but I know you're better than me, so I cast my vote firmly towards a person that is able to defend his position and leave his ego - you! You didn't have to prove your worth, but you did it anyway, for the best of this community. I really hope you can help us forward! I hope we can vote for a moderator from this point on, so we can finalize it in a week. Anyone can cast their own votes. It's fine, if you vote for yourself even." You were speaking of simping?
So I promoted the two of us after you hypothesized yourself as mod first and after you proposed we two fix the lack of moderation.
Everything that came after that is all downhill from that deal. There had already been rival names suggested: I said in my reply to your vote "I'm losing track of how many people have suggested themselves for mod". A primary burr in your saddle was that I defended Will as harmless and wouldn't commit to ban him without giving him warnings. You didn't like my view on math, or forum-sliding, or Robert's Rules. Once you realized I wouldn't do everything you wanted, pfft. And bang bang.
Now you're saying you exposed some scheme of mine, which reads at first like projection. I see no crime whatsoever in the idea occurring to me that I might want to mod and my then discussing the subject neutrally, and, after you describe the hypothetical of you modding, my offering my services. But God will judge all schemes.
Further, by my saying I would go to Meta and your not saying anything about it, the maxim of the law is that silence betokens consent. So you approved.Struck, because you were offline; so what you approved of was us fixing the lack of moderation generically.