I don't know how do people still believe in these fairytales, but there seems to be an idea about how the most faithful christ believers can escape the "tribulations" (Read:the upcoming NWO "Rape of man" where you just roll over and die) before they come if they are faithful enough.
Don't delude yourself.
The only people who survive the upcoming mass worldwide Dark Ages are the ones who know how to evade government and survive as the outside rest of the world goes to bloody hell.
It happened in Cambodia that everyone who survived got the fuck out of Cambodia years before the Khmer Rouge took power. It happened in Russia where if you didn't run years before the October Revolution you just die. Do not expect it will be different this time. If you are in ground zero at year zero, Jesus doesn't turn you into a holy paladin. You just die.
I dunno who spread this rapture thing, but whoever spreads it clearly wants the easy way out of the upcoming death and destruction that will engulf the world.
scofield bible was the vehicle by which alot of what fundies believe/hold to was changed/redirected. revelation's rapture & tribulation stuff wasn't really emphasized like it is now prior to the early 1900's. to an observer familiar with both the jq and Baptist theology/history, it's pretty clear zionists/sabbataens have totally captured the protestant fundie/evangelical demographic.
imho, with the advent of mass communications, it was becoming clear to certain (((powers that be))) how much humans/humanity/consciousness creates the world we live in. the (((corruption))) and (((misdirection/redirection))) of what baptists/fundies believe was one of the early attempts to steer humanity towards a dark future.
Makes sense, Schofield stole all his notes from a Jewish Zionist.
Also Schofield divorced his wife by abandoning her. Moved away to be pastor somewhere else and remarried. He's not the best guy.
I don't think you know what you are talking about. This is not Cambodia, this is a country with two rifles behind every blade of grass. This is a country which at it's heart is rebellious by nature. This is a country that was built by people who believe in God. Who are you to tell people to be scared? You are projecting your fear onto the world and it is ugly.
Funny, because the Russians thought about that too.
But when the entire country gets divided into ideologically contrasting warlord states, then you won't be laughing.
State economy is interlocked and if they separate it, you run out of ammo or you starve to death. Or both.
What are you talking about? You mean the Russians that saved us from the Nazis? You mean the Russians that are currently a major power? You can't say "the Russians thought that too.. duhhr" without any historical context or fact. You are proving that you clearly have no idea what you are talking about.
The Russians who fought against Stalin, thinking that their patriotism and firearms will allow them to win, but all Stalin did was to unleash the Red Terror and they just rolled over and died because they aren't funded by the USA and all of their opposition leaders are US-Jewish moles?
Also the Nazi thing was theater. They wanted the Communists to be the good guys.
That confidence you feel telling other people your opinion isn't confidence it's stupidity and a complete unawareness of what you are speaking about. You are suggesting that because Stalin killed a lot of people that 80 years later Americans who are better armed than any military in the world will somehow fail against a government that hasn't won a war since World War 2? The same country that has veterans of Iraq and Afghanistan who couldn't beat locals with less than a fifth grade education using the most advanced military the world has ever known? Your opinion betrays your complete lack of historical knowledge and experience.
It is not this government.
It is the upcoming government.
And it WILL be arranged by the same masterminds behind Stalin, Hitler, Mao and Pol Pot.
It can't be the same "masterminds" they are all dead
The same group of (probably inbred) people, but my point still stands.
The USA was built by Freemasons. Your capital city was built with Masonic symbolism designed into its very topography.
You’re right in saying that it was built by people who believe in God. But ups haven’t questioned WHICH Good they believe in and whether that God is god or evil. It would always be worth your while to challenge your most foundational assumptions…
What you are saying is nonsensical. Because the Masons existed during the construction of this country they somehow have control over what's happening? Bullshit! I've known Masons they are fucking idiots looking to be part of a not so secret club
Yes, but civilians in Khmer Rouge didn't have cellphone-controlled IED's, NVG's, and 1000 hours of video game sneak practice.
Just because people have died from atrocities doesn’t mean a religious idea is wrong. Can you prove the Rapture isn’t going to happen? I’m not sure what your point is but you seem to be very afraid of death. It’s really not a big deal, you just die and move on to the spiritual world. You can’t honestly believe we die and that’s the end of it, right?
I agree with you on that last bit. I refuse to believe that when I die its the end. Im sure its the end of whoever I identify as, but something has to go on. I suppose if it werent for all the dreams I may not believe in souls, but even if I didnt. At the very least the atoms that make up your physical body will go down the line and be used in something else. Just like how were all being constantly made up of recycled bits of stardust and other dead things. Quite a mindfuck really.
But the rapture? Do people believe they are going to magically get resurrected and beamed into heaven? Yeah my grammy paid like 50k for one of those stupid ass concrete vaults. Blows my mind. My whole life she was fascinated with my obsessions with aliens, she was intense and at 98 was still open minded. Kinda shocked me she wasted her money, she coulda gave my uncle a even bigger inheritance.
Maybe the jews have it right. Didnt they build landing pads for when new jerusalem lands to take the worthy away from hell on earth? I learned this in college, and verified it at some point about 15 years ago. Been scrubbed off the internet since, but ill bet its common knowledge there.
Reminds me a bit of the hopi story about their spider woman.
Kind of reminds me of New Age believers waiting for their Aquarius Age. There are differences, but the very basic idea is quite similar. Namely, that there is some chosen in-group that will get special treatment and will end up in The Good Place if they follow some particular doctrine and do the right things this doctrine is telling them to do. For christians it's belief and prayer. For newagers it's positive vibrations, celestial consciousness and other similar stuff.
Reality, of course, is that everyone will get buttfucked if TPTB gets away with what they're planning for us. What actually could help would be to stop waiting for some kind of saviour, realize the actual situation we're in and to plan ahead accordingly. Prepping, withdrawal from the system as much as possible, organizing local communities with like-minded people... Those kinds of things...
Correction. I think you need to address the lore and lies of the Bible.
Jesus isn’t for you - he was always pro-Jew and anti-Gentile. The reason for Christianity is to trick the gentiles into worshipping the god of Israel, same with Islam.
Remember, Jesus expects you to dutifully die for his names sake - even though he supposedly died for your sins already. If only you BELIEVE. zzzz
It’s retarded bullshit. Abrahamic religions is by far the biggest Jewish conspiracy of them all.
Your opinion reeks of a lack of worldly experience
Exactly OP, the rapture is non-biblical.
FTFY
Let me be more specific, the rapture is non-sense Protestant theology.
I don't disagree but I feel like there's a catch here
It sounds like you were were equating the Bible as unreasonable, when rather it's some off the wall interpretation of it.
The Bible is a book. It's neither reasonable or unreasonable. Believing it happened word for word is unreasonable, but that's just my opinion. Same as the rapture being anything resembling real, or at least how it is interpreted by evangelicals.
Large ports of the Bible are clearly allegoric, and until the rise of Protestant literalists, Christians knew that.
For example, the first words of Genesis are "God created the heaven and the earth" and then "let there be light" .....but the sun isn't created until later in the chapter on like day three; "And God made two great lights: a greater light to rule the day; and a lesser light to rule the night: and the stars."
Anybody with half a brain reading that in ancient times could see that light comes from the sun, so it's meant to not be exactly literal.
The idea of the rapture is a consequence of "once saved, always saved" theology that denies previous standard interpretations, and further, requires the use of the Protestant bible, which is short 7 books.
Perhaps you ought not to be doing mental gymnastics for the Bible, ascribing allegory in place of sense etc and just look at the Bible at it’s written - a piece of nonsense. A blueprint for mental and spiritual enslavement in order that Israel can inherit and rule over the whole world
RAP'TURE, noun [Latin raptus, rapio.] aka rapidity (life) within violence (inception towards death), which also implies a rupture/rapture from whole into partials.
Lots of easily manipulated evangelical boomers who swallow what they're told while masquerading as "truth seekers."
Remember, christcucks: faith is belief en lieu of evidence
I’m sure we can find lots of faith-based ideas you believe in. Would you like to start listing them or shall I?
It takes more athiestic "faith" to NOT believe in God, as if the universe happened by accident, than to believe in a God who created it.
I agree with you wholeheartedly. The question is, why is the god of Israel credited with its creation?
That’s the contentious part. The god of the Bible is not God, he’s just the god of Israel, spiritual leader of the Jews
a) AC'CIDENT, noun [Latin accidens, falling) - "a coming or falling; an event that takes place without one's foresight or expectation"...coming to be aka inception implies without ones expectation.
Also; only while falling (inception towards death) can one rise (life).
b) CREATE, verb - "to produce; to bring into being from nothing; to cause to exist". Others suggest creationism (out of nothing) as the inversion of transmutation (within everything).
Nothing aka suggested nihilism (Latin nihilo; nothing) tempts one to consent to de-nial everything perceivable for suggested nothingness.
c) One cannot believe in "God" without first consenting to those who shape suggestions in the name of (in nomine) padre et fili et spiritu sancti.
Whatever one believes is secondary to those suggesting one what to believe, which those suggesting rub into ones eyes with the first commandment aka Exodus 20:3 - "You shall have no other gods before me".
The trick...suggestion by others (words) is secondary to perception as self (sound).
Where did you got the word "God" from? Who suggested you to use words?
God
a) First implies all perceivable; second implies ones perception; third implies suggestions by another. Without perception a suggestion couldn't be made; and without perceivable ones perception would have no input.
If you say God equals perceivable; then ones perception needs to adapt to perceivable "God"...not to suggested "God". The difference...suggested is put together; perceivable is being set apart.
b) The suggestion of God as creator contradicts God as all; whole; omnipotence; everything; sole; one and only; origin; cause etc.
Creationism implies adding to; which implies God lacking...
Nihilism
Which is what creationism is based upon...
How about this? Can you "create" anything without using everything already in existence? Any example for creation out of nothing over transmutation within everything?
How could god create something without ignoring to be everything? If "almighty" could grow/add to self/create new, then that contradicts "almighty"...
What if HE isn't a creator; but SHE (momentum) implies the Split of HE (motion) into trans-formed matter? Hence from everything (whole) into each thing (partial)?
Go for it
Old earth theory. How old do you think the Earth is and can you prove it?
I dont knock you guys for your beliefs, all I ask is you dont knock me for mine.
If anything, im jealous that you guys can have such faith.
I didn’t even say I believe in the Rapture but anyone who claims they don’t believe in other faith-based ideas is a liar and that’s what I am calling out. People like to knock “christcucks” for their beliefs but they turn around and believe in dinosaurs, apes turning into humans, moon landings and space exploration, etc.
It’s HYPOCRISY.
That’s a false equivalence. I believe in none of those things you mentioned but can see clearly that Christ and the Bible is the largest Jewish conspiracy of them all.
That'd be a long con for no pay off. Christianity is anarchistic.
First of all, it’s great that you don’t believe in those fairy tales. Most people do, so congrats on breaking free from those lies.
The Bible says those who call themselves Jews are actually the Synagouge of Satan in Rev 2:9 and 3:9. Evangelical weaklings today say the Bible (Matt 27:25) doesn’t implicate the Synogougers as being responsible for Jesus’ death, but it actually does, and that responsibility, through their bloodlines, explains a lot about what we are seeing today. It’s because they’re Satanists and we are in a spiritual war.
How do you rationalize those passages if the Bible is a Jewish conspiracy? The Jews wouldn’t call themselves out as the Synagogue, right? Are those responsible for Jesus’ death still causing all the issues we see today?
The Bible doesn’t say that those who call themselves Jews are the synagogue of Satan, it’s says those who call themselves Jews but are not.
I believe this refers to Christians and, later, to Muslims.
The Bible is a Jewish conspiracy because it prophesy’s the coming of a messiah who would rule in the midst of Israel’s enemies. This was referring to Jesus (Psalm 110:1-2), who supposedly sits on the right hand of god. Jesus was the theological conqueror of Rome who were the enemy of the Jews and who had forced Europeans at swordpoint to give up their own gods to instead worship the god of Israel.
Jesus likened non Jews to dogs and he says salvation is of the Jews.
He told his apostles not to go into the way of the gentiles but to seek out only the lost sheep of the house of Israel. He said he is only come for the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
The prophecies said that the Jews would reject their Messiah etc. the prophecies said that the nation that does not serve Israel would be utterly wasted and that Israel would eat the riches of the gentiles, the kings of the gentiles would bow to Israel, that they would suck the milk of the gentiles and inherit the forces of the gentiles etc etc (Isaiah, Malachi).
Jesus said he is not come to abolish the law and the prophets, but to fulfill.
Jesus had made Europe his footstool. He had ruled in the midst of Israel’s enemies for two millennia. He is the reason that Jews own everything about us right now. Because he is their subversive, dialectical trick to make us believe in their god and by extension their self-proclaimed status as gods chosen people.
The Bible is a dialectical piece of work - same with all Jewish subversions. Jews are both the capitalists AND the communists are they not. They are the rulers of the right and left wings etc.
I think your position seems to presuppose the truthfulness of the Bible whereas I’m saying the Bible itself is the blueprint, the script, the screenplay of the great Jewish conspiracy.
Christianity is a branch of Judaism. Judaism is the root.
I think the first part of your explanation is flawed and that underpins everything we are discussing. From Rev 2:9 (KJV), “I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty (but thou art rich), and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.” Rev 3:9 further supports this by saying Jews are not actual Jews and that they LIE, while Rev 2:9 says they are the synagogue.
I’m not following this at all. Can you further explain why you think this?
Matthew Henry’s commentary on Psalm 110 is enlightening here. An except: “This psalm is pure gospel; it is only, and wholly, concerning Christ, the Messiah promised to the fathers and expected by them. It is plain that the Jews of old, even the worst of them, so understood it, however the modern Jews have endeavored to pervert it and to rob us of it;” Why would he say that? He continues, “for when the Lord Jesus proposes a question to the Pharisees upon the first words of this psalm, where he takes it for granted that David, in spirit, calls Christ his Lord though he was his Son, they chose rather to say nothing, and to own themselves gravelled, than to make it a question whether David does indeed speak to the Messiah or no; for they freely wield so plain a truth, though they foresee it will turn to their own disgrace. (Matthew 22:41).”
I’d like to understand this more. Can you provide more detail/passages/references?
Indeed, but they cannot erase their role in Jesus’ death and they, as Satanists, understand the need to subvert Christianity but cannot change the Bible’s passages (Rev 22:18). They believe in re-establishing Zion and their god, Satan, is well aware of God’s warnings. Satan still has to work within God’s framework, so he uses many tricks without outright undermining God’s words. Zionist Jews are Satan’s servants.
Yes.
Matthew Henry’s above excerpt is my stance. There is only pure Christianity and gospel, all other “religions” are man-made constructs. Christianity is the root, branch, and tree.
It's not faith, it's a program running in your mind as a result of brainwashing.
Big difference.