I ask every time why can I... fly either east or west from Toronto... and end up in Toronto. And the response is always: educate yourself. Nah, bro. This is an extremely basic question that you should be able to answer in a few words. In fact, you should be happy to explain it.
FINE. ANSWER THE FUCKING QUESTIONS. RIGHT HERE. RIGHT NOW.
Why can everyone south of the equator see the exact same stars rotating in the same direction around the same fixed central point in the sky due south of them if they’re supposedly all looking in different directions?
Why are the distances between degrees of latitude uniform and don’t grow exponentially away from the equator?
Why does everyone on Earth get the same result for the Eratosthenes experiment, when people nearer the equator should get a much smaller circumference for the Earth than those nearer the poles?
Come to think of it, was Eratosthenes part of the “round Earth” conspiracy?
Surviving records show that the ancient Egyptians and Mesopotamians based their astronomical forecasts on calculations assuming the Earth is a globe. Did this conspiracy begin at the dawn of civilization, or are all ancient artifacts nothing but Victorian forgeries? If so, why has this never been detected by modern carbon-dating techniques?
Why do arc lengths of given angles of longitude decrease rather than increase south of the equator?
Why does the sun not rise in the northeast and set in the northwest, year round, for everyone on Earth?
Why DOES the sun set, when the law of perspective states that the angular size of the sun’s altitude, like everything else, can’t become negative?
Why does the sun’s angular size not change throughout the day or year, since it is “moving toward and away from us” and is “closer than we’re told”?
Seriously, did you fall asleep during geometry class, or are you just completely demented?
If you believe in zeteticism, why do you keep relying on magical and unprovable solutions, which can’t be shown to exist with your own eyes and clearly don’t exist at all? Apparently, zeteticism is just code for “make any old bullshit up and pretend it’s true.”
If all photographs of a round Earth are a hoax, why not simply create photographs of a flat Earth?
A property of mass is that it has gravitational force regardless of size. If the Earth did not have a gravitational field, wouldn’t that imply that the Earth doesn’t physically exist?
Where is the Amundsen–Scott South Pole Station located if the south “pole” is the whole circumference of the Earth?
Wouldn’t creating such elaborate fakes and conspiracies cost an equal–if not greater–amount of money than the science they are supposedly covering up?
The idea of the Earth as a sphere has existed at least since the time of the ancient Greeks, long before NASA. What were their financial motives?
What financial motives could NASA have, since their budget is still cut every year?
How could the sun be a spotlight if it is a sphere? On the flat Earth, the light projection would have to be a semicircle.
Why does the North Star goes to the horizon?
Why do constellations appear to be different in the Southern and Northern hemispheres?
Why is the Coriolis effect stronger near both poles, instead of stronger in the north and weaker in the south?
If the circumferential south pole is preventing the oceans from pouring over the edge of the flat Earth, why didn’t the oceans disappear during the incredible amount of time it would have taken for that ice to form?
If the oceans would–if they could–pour off the edge of the flat Earth, where, then, would they go? Does this mean that whatever keeps the oceans on the surface of the flat Earth only operates in a downward direction on the uppermost surface and is absent on the underneath?
Why are satellites visible from Earth with a pair of binoculars and even the naked eye?
How could a flat body maintain an atmosphere?
Why are other celestial bodies spheres but the Earth is not? How, and why, was the Earth created differently?
If that's the case, the sun would rise and set in different directions (like due North) depending on your position on the "disc" and the season.
You can prove this with a dinner plate and a meatball ffs.
Try to find a single path the sun could take that would allow it to rise in the East across the whole disc.
I've pointed this out multiple times, to you, so now you're trying to imply, via grainy TikTok, that air blocks the sun, but not stars, and the sun moves in a circle, above the disc, but around nothing? And the circle changes throughout the year for...reasons? Is that it? Does the sun somehow propel itself? Is there some invisible, outside force acting on it, yet another cope in this never-ending buffet?
But please, pull some more "truth" out of your ass :)
The fact that your "theory" can't explain even basic phenomenon means it's garbage.
I gave you a simple, geometric hypothetical, no "science" required: what path, on FE, does the sun take that matches the universal observation that it rises in the East in every location at all times of the year? Again: dinner plate/meatball level of difficulty.
I can show exactly how this works in the heliocentric model in 5 seconds.
Everyone can see the sun, and that it rises in the East; your "lasers" exist only in grainy video and prove nothing.
it spins closer. then spins farther away. these are the equinoxes.
where it crosses over during its spin cycle twice a year in the middle is the equator.
this is the path the sun takes.
and the dome above rotates.
and this matches what you refer to as the "universal observation"
try it yourself.
put your phone down in the middle of the room
walk around it clockwise
you just now "circumnavigated" your phone
does this mean your room is curved? no.
does this mean your house is a sphere? no.
if your ego can handle this simple experiment
and seriously reflect on its implications..
maybe.. just maybe...
you will have a paradigm shift in your mind
and see this simple truth
that is a complex lie.
you can't show anyone the heliocentric model in 2 minutes.
That's you childishly boosting.
yet, I can show you in 2 minutes the North Star that has not moved since maps were made period.
it has remained fixed so much so that an Astrolab made a thousand years ago is still valid and works this very day and was based on a flat earth map model made by the same inventor.
He showed people where shit was and taught them how to use the stars to get there by land or sea.
so a sidereal degree is 72 years surely in a man's lifetime you would see it move half a degree. has it? no. can your grandfather see a change? no.
well after 1000 years that 13.8 degrees that the map and Astrolab would be off.
but it's not.
even Einstein himself could not devise a mechanism to measure the "earth's" movement.
you've never felt the earth move unless you've been in an earthquake.
when the earth "rotates daily", you do not feel as though you're being pushed or pulled by the "earth's mass" that is being "pulled" by the sun's "gravity"...
we all feel no change.
think about what you've been taught. really think about it.
the electrostatic weak charge is a million times stronger than this thing called gravity that can't be measured or quantified by science.
they've never found a graviton and they won't. its a red herring.
and now in this day and age of the twenty-first century...
your phone is 10000x better than the Apollo pc.
you got more tech in your hand than the "astronauts" did.
and they supposedly made it in 10 years of trying.
and then no one has been higher than 300 miles "since" 1972.
That's 50 years.
65 million a day now is NASA's budget.
every globe has a sticker that says "not for instructional purpose"
anyways there is a simple experiment you can do to prove there is no relation to a sphere or "globe" or anything to do with curvature when circumnavigating.
what this means is explorers like Ferdinand Magellan and Capt Cook all went around the north (electromagnetic center) pole and used the North star to keep a heading to the right when traveling east and the left when traveling west...
on a circle. not a sphere.
well right on, there are some concepts you can ponder...
We have to deal with the dumbest people who only pretend to understand science the whole time. It's very stupid and boring. Because if you were intelligent, you wouldn't be a globetard.
That's what I am saying. People like you and me do the research and get there on our own. All the globetards do is repeat the dumbest talking points that sound intelligent to them. They are posers. Low iq tards who want to pretend they understand science. Part of life, I guess.
Because they are largely agents or products of a heavily advertised (i.e. funded) psyop. One of the things it encourages is false enmity between “globetards” and “flattards” to prevent any earnest collaboration, discussion, or evaluation of the subject. Earnest flat earth researchers (depending on personal temperament, of course) are typically not that way.
And the response is always: educate yourself
Well, that’s good advice. Speaking from experience, it can be very tiring when people ask the same 101 question over and over again - especially when a small amount of research could easily answer it.
This is an extremely basic question that you should be able to answer in a few words. In fact, you should be happy to explain it.
I agree.
The (potential) explanation, assuming the world flat, is that when you travel west you are circling the north pole clockwise and when you are traveling east you are circling the north pole counterclockwise.
Any earnest questions you would like to ask - or search to see if they have been answered before - check out the community here called flatearthresearch!
I am not saying it's fake. I am saying it's pretty much impossible to see what is going on. It's fucking stamp-sized and low-res. For all I know the full video could just show the sun going behind a cloud.
So, right now I have no idea if the video is fake or not. It could as well just be an animation, I don't know because it's shit quality from a shit source.
No: index of refraction and its variation with temperature and pressure. Relatively normal situations lead to this phenomenon. Rarer atmospheres, like the desert, lead to mirages.
You must know this.
If you're just a troll, how do you muster such righteous indignation? I've never been a good liar, so it always astonishes me when chicks, say, double down.
Like shinning a flashlight under water in a lake. As you move the flashlight the light from the device is more and more difficult to see until it just fades out completly. Because the light cannot push through the particles.
Are you saying that light can only penetrate air up to a certain distance? Are you saying that the stars are closer to earth than the sun at night?
Seriously bro. Without context, I assume this is a cloud passing over the sun either in some kind of smoke, smog, or haze. This proves nothing.
Its not setting because it takes several minutes for the sun to set..... not seconds. Without time stamps, im assuming its real time.
Also, can one of you guys make a post explaining why it really matters if earth is flat or not?
We all know the powers that be are lying about something, but there is nothing about a round earth or physics that disproves god.
One of the best explanations of cern that I seen was given by a priest who explained it as scientist's smashing shit to see what god made his house out of.
We just put every country on Earth into crippling debt to fight a virus thay isn't even dangerous.
Going back in time, there's the Drug War, public education, welfare and a million other programs that launder money without providing results. Before that, Kings just took what they wanted.
I mean, I've considered it repeatedly and have come up with several reasons FE doesn't work without a ton of convenient coincidences, which I've raised.
The heliocentric explains everything (except, of course, why people think TikToks are valid sources of information), which is how science works. It might be wrong, but until a new theory explains more, then it's the one I'm going with.
Assumping FE: how does gravity work such that the edges of the Earth don't fall off or get crushed towards the center? What's "beneath" us? How does the sun move and why? Is it a globe? Are there other planets, or are they made up? How do the phases of the moon work and why do different places show different phases at the same time? Where to meteors come from? Why do the stars move the way they do? Why are some stars visible in the North, but not the South, especially if the stars are not blocked by the atmosphere like the sun is? If the South is a ring around the North, why can they see all the same stars, but none of the Northern ones?
Why can we see light from cities at night but not the cities themselves? How do time-zones work and, for that matter, how does light?
The heliocentric model explains all of these things and/or adheres to other existing theories.
But I suppose someone as smart as yourseld is far too busy to explain any of this and I should go educate myself...
heliocentric model doesnt explain how the star trails stay in perfect circle, dispite our orbital path moving on multiple axises
Yes it does. Stars are ridiculously far away so they don't appear to move, like looking at the sun or moon out of a moving car.
its just an agreed upon average rate of accepration)
In which direction? All of the air affected by gravity accelerates in which direction?
why the south pole doesnt have similar summer to the north pole,
Different geography and weather systems cause different weather. The ocean and air currents in the Atlantic give Europe a much warmer climate than the equivalent latitude (do you believe in latitude? or weather?) in North America or even Russia.
why the noth pole has a 24 hour sun, while the south pole doesnt.
Sounds made up, but if it's true it's easily explainable by orbital mechanics. All it would take is an orbit slightly "South" of the sun and you wouldn't get 24 hour sun on the South pole, even with the tilt.
Anyway, not that this hasn't been fun, but is the irony that you have completely failed to explain the theory which you claim to have spent years "researching" while simultaneously attacking another theory for not explaining "everything" completely lost on you?
Is it possible that you simply don't understand physics or astronomy? Your whole argument seems to hinge in the fact that you don't think the heliocentric model works; do you even understand it? I'm not an astrophysicist or anything and I can answer half your questions off the top of my head.
Does FE explain anything I just did? How does the North Pole have a 24 hour sun on FE at all? Some kind of spiral orbit that reverses at the end of the year? How is that supposed to work? How is there any day light in the southern "ring" while the sun is directly over the North pole? Does the opacity of the atmosphere change over the year? And if that's true, how do the stars appear the same?
Maybe you should have spent those years studying actual reality instead of crackpot youtube videos?
THANK YOU FOR ADMITTING THAT YOU WERE ASKED QUESTIONS ABOUT YOUR CLAIMED BELIEFS THAT YOU REFUSE TO ANSWER
THANK YOU FOR ADMITTING THAT YOU CANNOT ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT YOUR GOD.
THANK YOU FOR ADMITTING THAT EARTH IS NOT FLAT.
Why can everyone south of the equator see the exact same stars rotating in the same direction around the same fixed central point in the sky due south of them if they’re supposedly all looking in different directions?
Why are the distances between degrees of latitude uniform and don’t grow exponentially away from the equator?
Why does everyone on Earth get the same result for the Eratosthenes experiment, when people nearer the equator should get a much smaller circumference for the Earth than those nearer the poles?
Come to think of it, was Eratosthenes part of the “round Earth” conspiracy?
Surviving records show that the ancient Egyptians and Mesopotamians based their astronomical forecasts on calculations assuming the Earth is a globe. Did this conspiracy begin at the dawn of civilization, or are all ancient artifacts nothing but Victorian forgeries? If so, why has this never been detected by modern carbon-dating techniques?
Why do arc lengths of given angles of longitude decrease rather than increase south of the equator?
Why does the sun not rise in the northeast and set in the northwest, year round, for everyone on Earth?
Why DOES the sun set, when the law of perspective states that the angular size of the sun’s altitude, like everything else, can’t become negative?
Why does the sun’s angular size not change throughout the day or year, since it is “moving toward and away from us” and is “closer than we’re told”?
Seriously, did you fall asleep during geometry class, or are you just completely demented?
If you believe in zeteticism, why do you keep relying on magical and unprovable solutions, which can’t be shown to exist with your own eyes and clearly don’t exist at all? Apparently, zeteticism is just code for “make any old bullshit up and pretend it’s true.”
If all photographs of a round Earth are a hoax, why not simply create photographs of a flat Earth?
A property of mass is that it has gravitational force regardless of size. If the Earth did not have a gravitational field, wouldn’t that imply that the Earth doesn’t physically exist?
Where is the Amundsen–Scott South Pole Station located if the south “pole” is the whole circumference of the Earth?
Wouldn’t creating such elaborate fakes and conspiracies cost an equal–if not greater–amount of money than the science they are supposedly covering up?
The idea of the Earth as a sphere has existed at least since the time of the ancient Greeks, long before NASA. What were their financial motives?
What financial motives could NASA have, since their budget is still cut every year?
How could the sun be a spotlight if it is a sphere? On the flat Earth, the light projection would have to be a semicircle.
Why does the North Star goes to the horizon?
Why do constellations appear to be different in the Southern and Northern hemispheres?
Why is the Coriolis effect stronger near both poles, instead of stronger in the north and weaker in the south?
If the circumferential south pole is preventing the oceans from pouring over the edge of the flat Earth, why didn’t the oceans disappear during the incredible amount of time it would have taken for that ice to form?
If the oceans would–if they could–pour off the edge of the flat Earth, where, then, would they go? Does this mean that whatever keeps the oceans on the surface of the flat Earth only operates in a downward direction on the uppermost surface and is absent on the underneath?
Why are satellites visible from Earth with a pair of binoculars and even the naked eye?
How could a flat body maintain an atmosphere?
Why are other celestial bodies spheres but the Earth is not? How, and why, was the Earth created differently?
Fragile egos clinging to science and their precious Star Wars debunk flat earthers, the rest are feds. I hope you've accepted Christ, OP, because that is the only conclusion after all the globe-dependant theories fall.
"I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End,” says the Lord, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.” Revelation 1:8
It does. Every water surface on Earth is level. On a globe, it would be curved. It's not curved. It's level. No globe. Earth is "flat".
Do you like bagels? What you said seemed like pilpul. To bring up something that doesn't matter in order to try to make the whole thing invalid. It's a thing stupid peopl enjoy doing to fool even more stupid people, so they can seem smarter. That only works on retards.
Why are flat-earthers so belligerent?
I ask every time why can I... fly either east or west from Toronto... and end up in Toronto. And the response is always: educate yourself. Nah, bro. This is an extremely basic question that you should be able to answer in a few words. In fact, you should be happy to explain it.
Reminder that you refuse to answer even a single question about your claimed beliefs.
FINE. ANSWER THE FUCKING QUESTIONS. RIGHT HERE. RIGHT NOW.
"What financial motives could NASA have, since their budget is still cut every year?"
NASA's budget is 65 million a day.
and they have no space program. there are no more "shuttles".
who the fuck told you their budget was cut year after year?
if you can't understand this basic demonstrable fact on paper...
you don't deserve answers to any other question.
you're too lost in stupidity.
here is one example.
take your phone. put it on the floor. walk around it clockwise.
you've just circumnavigated your phone.
does that mean your floor is a round sphere?
of course not your floor is flat.
so a ship "circumnavigating the north pole" has nothing to do with a sphere.
ponder that for a while. or don't.
truth doesn't need your approval.
The same people that told you what their budget is now.
We need u/free-will-of-choice in here to explain to you just how mentally defective you are for using ‘circumnavigate’ this way.
Correct. Enjoy being killed.
Kill yourself. The earth is not flat.
Hahaha, wrong!
If that's the case, the sun would rise and set in different directions (like due North) depending on your position on the "disc" and the season.
You can prove this with a dinner plate and a meatball ffs.
Try to find a single path the sun could take that would allow it to rise in the East across the whole disc.
I've pointed this out multiple times, to you, so now you're trying to imply, via grainy TikTok, that air blocks the sun, but not stars, and the sun moves in a circle, above the disc, but around nothing? And the circle changes throughout the year for...reasons? Is that it? Does the sun somehow propel itself? Is there some invisible, outside force acting on it, yet another cope in this never-ending buffet?
But please, pull some more "truth" out of your ass :)
The fact that your "theory" can't explain even basic phenomenon means it's garbage.
I gave you a simple, geometric hypothetical, no "science" required: what path, on FE, does the sun take that matches the universal observation that it rises in the East in every location at all times of the year? Again: dinner plate/meatball level of difficulty.
I can show exactly how this works in the heliocentric model in 5 seconds.
Everyone can see the sun, and that it rises in the East; your "lasers" exist only in grainy video and prove nothing.
the sun circumnavigates the north pole.
it spins closer. then spins farther away. these are the equinoxes.
where it crosses over during its spin cycle twice a year in the middle is the equator.
this is the path the sun takes.
and the dome above rotates.
and this matches what you refer to as the "universal observation"
try it yourself.
put your phone down in the middle of the room
walk around it clockwise
you just now "circumnavigated" your phone
does this mean your room is curved? no.
does this mean your house is a sphere? no.
if your ego can handle this simple experiment
and seriously reflect on its implications..
maybe.. just maybe...
you will have a paradigm shift in your mind
and see this simple truth
that is a complex lie.
you can't show anyone the heliocentric model in 2 minutes.
That's you childishly boosting.
yet, I can show you in 2 minutes the North Star that has not moved since maps were made period.
it has remained fixed so much so that an Astrolab made a thousand years ago is still valid and works this very day and was based on a flat earth map model made by the same inventor.
He showed people where shit was and taught them how to use the stars to get there by land or sea.
so a sidereal degree is 72 years surely in a man's lifetime you would see it move half a degree. has it? no. can your grandfather see a change? no.
well after 1000 years that 13.8 degrees that the map and Astrolab would be off.
but it's not.
even Einstein himself could not devise a mechanism to measure the "earth's" movement.
you've never felt the earth move unless you've been in an earthquake.
when the earth "rotates daily", you do not feel as though you're being pushed or pulled by the "earth's mass" that is being "pulled" by the sun's "gravity"...
we all feel no change.
think about what you've been taught. really think about it.
the electrostatic weak charge is a million times stronger than this thing called gravity that can't be measured or quantified by science.
they've never found a graviton and they won't. its a red herring.
and now in this day and age of the twenty-first century...
your phone is 10000x better than the Apollo pc.
you got more tech in your hand than the "astronauts" did.
and they supposedly made it in 10 years of trying.
and then no one has been higher than 300 miles "since" 1972.
That's 50 years.
65 million a day now is NASA's budget.
every globe has a sticker that says "not for instructional purpose"
anyways there is a simple experiment you can do to prove there is no relation to a sphere or "globe" or anything to do with curvature when circumnavigating.
what this means is explorers like Ferdinand Magellan and Capt Cook all went around the north (electromagnetic center) pole and used the North star to keep a heading to the right when traveling east and the left when traveling west...
on a circle. not a sphere.
well right on, there are some concepts you can ponder...
We have to deal with the dumbest people who only pretend to understand science the whole time. It's very stupid and boring. Because if you were intelligent, you wouldn't be a globetard.
That's what I am saying. People like you and me do the research and get there on our own. All the globetards do is repeat the dumbest talking points that sound intelligent to them. They are posers. Low iq tards who want to pretend they understand science. Part of life, I guess.
Reminder that you refuse to answer even a single question about your claimed beliefs.
Reminder that you refuse to answer even a single question about your claimed beliefs.
Reminder that you refuse to answer even a single question about your claimed beliefs.
Because they are largely agents or products of a heavily advertised (i.e. funded) psyop. One of the things it encourages is false enmity between “globetards” and “flattards” to prevent any earnest collaboration, discussion, or evaluation of the subject. Earnest flat earth researchers (depending on personal temperament, of course) are typically not that way.
Well, that’s good advice. Speaking from experience, it can be very tiring when people ask the same 101 question over and over again - especially when a small amount of research could easily answer it.
I agree.
The (potential) explanation, assuming the world flat, is that when you travel west you are circling the north pole clockwise and when you are traveling east you are circling the north pole counterclockwise.
Any earnest questions you would like to ask - or search to see if they have been answered before - check out the community here called flatearthresearch!
What is there to explain? It's a tiny low-res video with no source or context and some retard on ticktock making a nonsensical claim.
Fade out where? In that video? That tiny low res video for which we have no source?
Show me the original in high res and I will tell you.
I am not saying it's fake. I am saying it's pretty much impossible to see what is going on. It's fucking stamp-sized and low-res. For all I know the full video could just show the sun going behind a cloud.
So, right now I have no idea if the video is fake or not. It could as well just be an animation, I don't know because it's shit quality from a shit source.
You showed me a pixelated as fuck extremely zoomed in video.
Get off our website, you stupid fucking illiterate shill.
So why are you posting here, cocksucking faggot? Reported for admitting to being a paid shill.
You're a fed. That's the explanation.
Why don't you explain how a picture of the sun "undoes" anything at all?
Because you're a groomer. You're not interested in truth, in fact you despise the truth because it gets in the way of your grooming.
Liberal fed trash
Oh, David is here. Accusing people who tell the truth of his crimes. David, stop raping children.
Who said anything about children, you degenerate?
You're literally trying to groom people and call it "asking questions"
If that weren't the case then you'd be able to answer my question instead of reeeeeing like the liberal religious zealot you are
I already outed you as a pedo fed months ago, David.
Because I said the earth isn't flat? Ok groomer
No, because you rape children.
Ok, groomer
Shut up, pedo fed.
But this is easily explainable. Are you just trolls?
Gravity? Are you retarded?
No: index of refraction and its variation with temperature and pressure. Relatively normal situations lead to this phenomenon. Rarer atmospheres, like the desert, lead to mirages.
You must know this.
If you're just a troll, how do you muster such righteous indignation? I've never been a good liar, so it always astonishes me when chicks, say, double down.
I got excited about possibly a good post because of all the engagement, then I saw it was a flat tard post.
At sunset or sunrise, you can often see the clouds being lit from below by the sun.
How to flat earthers explain that? Are clouds higher than the sun?
That doesn't explain shit.
Can you try to say in your own words what this guy is trying to say?
Are you saying that light can only penetrate air up to a certain distance? Are you saying that the stars are closer to earth than the sun at night?
How far does light penetrate air then?
Source for the picture?
This isn't 4k. He conveniently zooms in to the max when the sun "fades out" and the resolution goes to shit.
Now I have to wonder why he doesn't show the actual video without zoom in 4k and not sped up.
Probably because it shows that the sun just disappears behind the horizon.
You can literally see how it gets very pixelated as he zooms in. how the fuck can you deny that?
Grainy TikToks "prove" FE...
Real Loch Ness monster energy right here.
Low IQ = upvote flat earth bs.
The sun sets. Off yourself.
Said the flat earther without a shred of irony.
Do you know where this video clip came from? What altitude was it recorded at etc?
Thanks for sharing!
Seriously bro. Without context, I assume this is a cloud passing over the sun either in some kind of smoke, smog, or haze. This proves nothing.
Its not setting because it takes several minutes for the sun to set..... not seconds. Without time stamps, im assuming its real time.
Also, can one of you guys make a post explaining why it really matters if earth is flat or not?
We all know the powers that be are lying about something, but there is nothing about a round earth or physics that disproves god.
One of the best explanations of cern that I seen was given by a priest who explained it as scientist's smashing shit to see what god made his house out of.
"Globetards are sheep who never question anything"
"This grainy video is 100% proof and there's no way it's a rendering fault, lack of brightness sensitivity, or just plain fake"
~a very wise man
Why would they need to go to the trouble?
We just put every country on Earth into crippling debt to fight a virus thay isn't even dangerous.
Going back in time, there's the Drug War, public education, welfare and a million other programs that launder money without providing results. Before that, Kings just took what they wanted.
They don't need to fake Earth to steal money.
I mean, I've considered it repeatedly and have come up with several reasons FE doesn't work without a ton of convenient coincidences, which I've raised.
The heliocentric explains everything (except, of course, why people think TikToks are valid sources of information), which is how science works. It might be wrong, but until a new theory explains more, then it's the one I'm going with.
Assumping FE: how does gravity work such that the edges of the Earth don't fall off or get crushed towards the center? What's "beneath" us? How does the sun move and why? Is it a globe? Are there other planets, or are they made up? How do the phases of the moon work and why do different places show different phases at the same time? Where to meteors come from? Why do the stars move the way they do? Why are some stars visible in the North, but not the South, especially if the stars are not blocked by the atmosphere like the sun is? If the South is a ring around the North, why can they see all the same stars, but none of the Northern ones? Why can we see light from cities at night but not the cities themselves? How do time-zones work and, for that matter, how does light?
The heliocentric model explains all of these things and/or adheres to other existing theories.
But I suppose someone as smart as yourseld is far too busy to explain any of this and I should go educate myself...
Yes it does. Stars are ridiculously far away so they don't appear to move, like looking at the sun or moon out of a moving car.
In which direction? All of the air affected by gravity accelerates in which direction?
Different geography and weather systems cause different weather. The ocean and air currents in the Atlantic give Europe a much warmer climate than the equivalent latitude (do you believe in latitude? or weather?) in North America or even Russia.
Sounds made up, but if it's true it's easily explainable by orbital mechanics. All it would take is an orbit slightly "South" of the sun and you wouldn't get 24 hour sun on the South pole, even with the tilt.
Anyway, not that this hasn't been fun, but is the irony that you have completely failed to explain the theory which you claim to have spent years "researching" while simultaneously attacking another theory for not explaining "everything" completely lost on you?
Is it possible that you simply don't understand physics or astronomy? Your whole argument seems to hinge in the fact that you don't think the heliocentric model works; do you even understand it? I'm not an astrophysicist or anything and I can answer half your questions off the top of my head.
Does FE explain anything I just did? How does the North Pole have a 24 hour sun on FE at all? Some kind of spiral orbit that reverses at the end of the year? How is that supposed to work? How is there any day light in the southern "ring" while the sun is directly over the North pole? Does the opacity of the atmosphere change over the year? And if that's true, how do the stars appear the same?
Maybe you should have spent those years studying actual reality instead of crackpot youtube videos?
Burn in hell, paid shill.
... Not really? You’re clearly one.
Said the flat earther without a shred of irony.
Here, I've got my own.
This PROVES OP is a faggot! checkmate!!
On an actual serious note, anyone whose ever watched the sun set over the ocean can confirm this video is horse shit.
THANK YOU FOR ADMITTING THAT YOU WERE ASKED QUESTIONS ABOUT YOUR CLAIMED BELIEFS THAT YOU REFUSE TO ANSWER
THANK YOU FOR ADMITTING THAT YOU CANNOT ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT YOUR GOD.
THANK YOU FOR ADMITTING THAT EARTH IS NOT FLAT.
This is the dumbest fucking shit I've ever seen.
You're a fucking retard.
We've been able to measure the curvature since 1600 you complete waste of air.
Said the literal flat earther without a shred of irony.
Said the flat earther without a shred of irony.
Fragile egos clinging to science and their precious Star Wars debunk flat earthers, the rest are feds. I hope you've accepted Christ, OP, because that is the only conclusion after all the globe-dependant theories fall.
"I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End,” says the Lord, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.” Revelation 1:8
Feel free to leave and never return, you cocksucking piece of jewish shit.
Wrong.
A water level tool proves all surface water on Earth is level. Which it couldn't be on a ball. That alone debunks the globe.
You know, one of the first programming lessons I learned was about recursion.
Why do I bring this up?
Did you know that most curves are actually built from many straight lines?
A water level tool does not prove flat earth.
It does. Every water surface on Earth is level. On a globe, it would be curved. It's not curved. It's level. No globe. Earth is "flat".
Do you like bagels? What you said seemed like pilpul. To bring up something that doesn't matter in order to try to make the whole thing invalid. It's a thing stupid peopl enjoy doing to fool even more stupid people, so they can seem smarter. That only works on retards.
You sir, have a functional brain. How nice.
They ones that are selfish don't come here.
If you were supersmart, you would understand the importance of educating the ignorant. The future of humanity depends on it.
Let's say what you say is true. Where would the water flow to?
In a random circle obviously.
It's science, you wouldn't get it, lol
But seeing flat surface landscape beyond 3 miles does.