why? to stop people from looking into how weird some of history actually is.
So this is Pacal the Great(1) Hes the Mesoamerican version of a king from 600AD, hes often associated with Aliens and advanced technology solely because of the lid covering his tomb and that he might have built some of the ancient pyramids in Mexico.
his tomb lid (2) is pretty cool, its like 10 feet or so long and 10 inches think. its got a huge carving that most people say is a depiction of Pacal flying a space ship. Like hes in a cockpit.
Anyway it takes like to two seconds to find out whats actually being depicted.
(3) this is a tablet called the "Tablet of the foliated tree of life" or "foliated cross"
its not a space ship, its a death or sacrificial alter with the tree of life coming forth from the sacrifice.
if you look close it looks like Pacal (on the right of pic 3 )is holding a small child in his arms
(4) this pic is from their oldest book the desden codex. some rulers almanac from 1100ADish
and on the very top of every cross or tree of life (2)(3)(4) is a bird. (5) the bird is a demon death deity called Vucub Caquix.
Pacals tomb isnt a space ship. its simply depicting that he is being offered up to Vucub Caquix after his death.
In conclusion Ancient aliens is a lazy way to confuse history and hide the fact that theres a common trend between megalithic buildings and a strange ruling class with elongated skulls
everywhere we have old megalithic structures, we have elongated skulls.
Youve already admitted that these ancient cultures, separated my massive amounts of distance and time, all have such similar concepts. The great deluge, the rebirth of mankind, their creators teaching them how to exist again.
So do you believe its Abrahamic? Or more pagan. More simply put, do you believe in one all powerful creator, or multiple gods. There is a reason that the Abrahamic god wanted to kill anyone who followed the old gods and the knight templars spent hundreds of years hunting down treasures and artifacts and slaughtering all who dared to defy their religion.
It would seem that each culture had their own interpretation of these things, but they all seem to be similar enough. The more you trace them back, the more of it you can see.
It originally wasnt a tree of life, but the vessel of life. Who knows during what dark age, which king was actually responsible for changing it to a tree. Someone who wasnt able to understand what they were seeing/hearing.
Like another poster said, the show ancient aliens is filled with mostly junk, with some fact in there. I have yet to see anything like the 7 dots glyph, but I was into ancient aliens around 2009, before the show came out in 2011 or something.
I dont claim to know for sure. But I do believe simply because I have seen ufos. Not just glowing lights in the sky, but objects capable of going from zero to mach 22+ in the blink of an eye. Ive seen it a few times in my life. I supposed if I never seen these things, I likely would be skeptical too. We call them unidentified, but our ancestors knew very much who was flying them.
Everyone wants to discredit zecharia sitchin and his book, chariots of the gods. yet the story he tells, is the one that is very similar to gilgamesh. One of the oldest epics in the world, and seems to match up very nicely with what we see on ancient cylinders like i previously mentioned, the 7 dot glyph. Our ancestors used these images to pass on the story, until one day their civilization was gone and a new one was there to pick up the pieces, along with its own interpretation.
Now the only thing that I am on the fence about, is maybe these artifacts are fake. But what about all these other people/religions that still exist, are you going to tell me these are all fake too? Hopi storys are more in line with the truth than the bible is.
I also find it funny that in the early 1900's, shortly after experimenting with radio signals that we would start seeing an increase in these things. Tesla claim to even be receiving signals from them. They spent untold millions(billions in our time) to convince people that what they were seeing was the shine of venus on some swamp gas.
Who knows though.
I just started reading a book called "Children of time." the other day. It's a sci fi, but its apparent to me, that whoever wrote the book believes the same as I do. It almost mirrors what I think happened, except its humans trying to play god on other planets instead of our creators. Funny enough, the name of the main spaceship is called, gilgamesh. Its so obvious.
Another good sci fi, the aliens movie prometheus. Did you know that in old greek legends, prometheus, a servant of zeus or the supreme god, created humans and zeus took the credit? Mirrors the story of Enki and Enlil from Mesopotamia. You wont find this in the modern revisions. Nor the stories about the multiple ages and the rebirth of civilization. It was no secret to them that earth goes through multiple rebirths.
Likely in the form of reoccurring interglacials. If aliens wanted a planet to perform their experiments, they picked a good one. We cant make it more than 13000 years each interglacial before the earth does a purge in the form of a 90,000 year winter.
Again who knows, perhaps it is as simple as one creator god creating all this just so we can love him. :shrugs:
So in my faith that’s called the “logos spermaticos” the seeds of truth. I don’t need you to subscribe to my faith but hear out the example.
AA says aliens are the root cause of isolated communities having things like a flood myth or sky deities. Old school Orthodox Christianity says it’s because they all have a seed of truth, because we did have a flood, we did pass on knowledge of a supreme creator but certain cultures strayed far from that in a “telephone game” type way.
There can be multiple theories as to why, but let’s not pretend that aliens are the only explanation.
A more atheistic person could also hypothesize there was a huge flood in ancient times and humans were around longer than we are aware.
My point is there are multiple theories that have a good shot at solving that riddle.
Great find!!! I have researched the Incas, the Scandinavians, the Egyptians, the Eastern Europeans, etc. All have a creation story, then a big flood, then some people from the sea came to tell the story. Basically, all Atlanteans going in different places to spread the cult towards the thunder god. That includes the God of Moses in the Bible - the story on mount Sinai, more specifically. Also, the mentioned burnt sacrifices and animal sacrifices that Noah, Abram [Abraham], and Moses did, as mentioned in the Bible. Bottom line, the god of the old testament is not the same God of the new testament.
Sure thing. Basically, the creator god in every religion is the same. The Al Azif a.k.a. the Necronomicon a.k.a. book of the dead describes that a demon created the human body as a prison. That makes more sense than one that kills Egypt's firstborn but he forgives mistakes.
Also, pay attention that the old testament is documenting a special bloodline. Thinking rationally, who has a motive to describe a bloodline?
Furthermore, the first sin is sex, obviously, but it is described as an apple. If you cut apple horizontally, you will notice a pentagram, which is the sign of the first covenant a.k.a. Cain's covenant to not be killed. Also described in the Al Azif is the pentagram but it is called the elder sign. Nowadays, you cannot see a magician that doesn't use the pentagram to be "recognized by the spirits".
Let me know if you need any further clarification on this subject or anything similar. I will be glad to share anything that I know regarding the subjects I've researched.
That two gods thing is a gnostic type invention that Freemasons push. If you push them further into questioning they will equate Lucifer with Prometheus and Christ and say that old god bad, satan good.
It always seems like a suuuper clumsy attempt to make people worship “the snake in the garden” their Prometheus, their dark prince.
Even as a little atheist kid I laughed at how lame Freemason mythology is. They just wanna mash up all the religions to control people. Manly P Hall an influential Freemason has said as much directly. So I doubt they’re all satanic but just mostly opportunists pushing lame dogma
Ever since discovering certain deeper truths about the world and its history, I've listened quite keenly indeed to exactly what those at higher levels believe (or at least say they believe) about these matters.
I've come to the conclusion that at each higher level of the pyramid, yes, they are told a few new truths but they are also given a fresh set of lies. I would guess that the dumb ones believe the lies, and the smart ones believe it's best to believe the lies.
For example, all these high occultists like Blavatsky and Pike and particularly Crowley are full of nonsense. Unless you really, really know what you're doing I would tell everyone to stay away from their work.
I suspect that there are at most only a handful at the very top that know the full truth. We shall certainly never know their names, because their non-existence makes them invulnerable.
To put a finer point on it, I would suggest that they give themselves over to deception. I would analogize to those in the military who operate in the mode that they are there to "follow orders". I know officers receive specific training that they are only bound to follow lawful orders, but when push comes to shove how many have internalized that and are actually willing to explicitly disobey? Very few.
They definitely worship something, what it is. Well that's the big question. And normal people think that them worshipping some kind of entity is a big conspiracy when they literally flash the symbols of their religion everywhere. Unbelievable. It's even on the american currency and people still think its a big conspiracy lmao.
I think christians would describe it as satanic, it certainly isnt pleasant or good. It does seem outright evil, but even the atlanteans amongst many of the cultures that followed, use blood magic along with their symbols to influence reality. Id like to say they are crazy, but is it any crazier than the math/symbols we use to decode the secrets of the universe in the form of quantum mechanics. I honestly dont see much of a difference. This is one of the truths behind the idea that thought creates reality.
One of the deeper truths I came to learn, through research entirely outside of occultism or theology, was that Satan exists and precisely who he is. Even for those that believe in Satan, he's not who they think.
Not actively, but just as it happens to come by me, I listen very carefully to what Satanists and occultists and various Elites have to say about the subject, to see if they know the same truth I do. They don't. Satanists say they don't even believe Satan exists and Mark Passio, a former Satanist, confirms this.
The very closest I have ever come across is from Saul Alinsky, who wrote "Rules for Radicals". On the epigraph page, he wrote:
Lest we forget at least an over-the-shoulder acknowledgment to the very first radical: from all our legends, mythology, and history (and who is to know where mythology leaves off and history begins — or which is which), the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom — Lucifer.
Everyone misses the significance of this, and so never tries to figure out just what the hell he's talking about. But I feel I know exactly what he means, and reading it came as a sort of confirmation of the research I had done. How much of the truth of the surrounding issue did Alinsky know beyond that? Well, maybe none, but who knows?
But the whole thing tied together for me why there was all this "Satanic" stuff floating around the Elite and Freemasonry and occultism, etc, etc. It's because there is something very real at the center, or should I say the top of the pyramid.
You're probably going to have to quote what I wrote that in any way supports Satanists or or condones Satanism. Please read carefully and get back to me.
Yes it’s a psychological operation but it’s part of the gradual disclosure operation.
The show presents vast quantities of evidence that aliens interacted with humans and assisted them at times. However, the show then make several outrageous conclusions that don’t follow from the limited evidence, i.e., ”I’m not saying it’s aliens, but it’s aliens” meme.
So the show presents enough good evidence that the average person could use to reach the conclusion that there was an alien presence in the past but then because of the shows misinterpretations, faulty logic, Shakey conclusions, etc.; the average viewer can then go ahead and discredit everything they just saw.
The show sends out mixed messages because it is designed to assist in gradual disclosure process. At first, most people ridiculed the “ancient aliens” show partly due to the weird hosts on the show. However, now we see that credible sources in the Pentagon are coming out and admitting that UFOs are real and need to be investigated.
When authorities finally come out and admit that aliens have been visiting the earth for thousands or millions of years, all those people who used to watch ancient aliens and ridicule it will say “Oh yeah, I knew all about that already, I heard all that evidence so I’m not shocked.”
The point of this process is to gradually get people used to the idea of alien intervention in human history so that they don’t go into massive culture shock when the authorities finally reveal the truth.
The original poster being disillusioned with some of their sloppy academic work is part of the process. Giving people the truth but then temporarily discrediting that truth does help prepare people to eventually be exposed to the shocking truth.
Someone very close to you goes to the hospital and is diagnosed with terminal cancer. The doctors give them three months to live. He/She immediately tell friends and family the bad news. However, with a good diet, medical care and support that person actually ends up living another three years.
When they die after three years, are you in shock? Not really, in fact you’re grateful that you knew the truth and that they got three additional years to live. You’re especially grateful because you got to tell them how you felt about them and prepare for their death.
When we think about it we realize that doctors were wrong about how long the patient would live but they were right about the cancer. But you’re not really upset about that.
A week later a second different person close to you has a brain aneurysm which causes a massive brain bleed and within seconds they’re dead.
Are you in shock? Yes, and you’re gonna have a lot of difficulty dealing with their death because you never really got a chance to tell them how you felt about them. You weren’t given the opportunity to gradually get used to the idea that they were going to die.
Do you see the difference? Neither case is great but I would much rather be able to prepare for the death of someone that I loved. Yes of course watching them suffer at all would be painful. However, seeing them finally released from that suffering would also soften the blow of their ultimate death.
If you still don’t understand the difference, go look up the concept of culture shock and consider the worst cases of culture shock. The worst cases are when a primitive group of people suddenly encounter a technologically advanced people for the first time with no warning. These primitive people may have never even known that technologically advanced people existed. Meeting advanced peoples often destroys the physical and mental health of primitive peoples.
When people with advanced technology encounter people who are primitive, they are less shocked. They’ve either read about those primitive people in books or maybe they saw documentaries about those people on television.
The ancient aliens show has been wrong about much of the evidence that they present but that doesn’t eliminate the mountain of credible evidence for the presense of alien entities on earth.
You can’t hand wave away the unidentified flying objects that have been messing with US military forces for the past 50 years. And the US has been one of the most secretive countries about the existence of UFOs. Other countries like Chile or France are much more open about it.
We are gonna have to get used to this idea of the alien presence on Earth.
Ancient Aliens did us all a favor in preparing us for disclosure day
there is zero credible evidence for aliens. no physical remains of tech, no physical remains of organics, nothing. All there is lights in the sky called atmospheric phenomenon and sci fiction sold as real life.
Aliens has become the go to explain away modern day mysteries. Strange electro magnetic phenomenon in the atmosphere.. muh aliens, TPTB muh aliens, megalithic structures ..muh aliens.. human orgins.. must be aliens.
You seem to have no awareness of what’s going on with the US military these days and how they’re admitting that they can’t explain the presence of mysterious Flying aircraft that outperform the best US fighter jets.
Did you even know that the New York Times has been publishing interviews with Pentagon insiders and Navy pilots who witness these craft frequently? Did you even know that Navy optical equipment and radar tracking equipment verify the craft that the pilots are tracking?
Do you think it’s Chinese drones that are outperforming billion dollar American fighter planes? I live and work in China and I teach at one of the top universities of technology in China. I can tell you right now they’re not capable of significantly producing advanced flight technology on their own. Most of the Chinese planes are copies of Russian fighter planes. Do you think it’s Russia tech? If the Russian military technology is so advanced why didn’t they win Ukrainian war in 10 days.
If you have NO awareness of these FACTS, you’re an uninformed moron.
If you think US fighter pilots and radar technicians are lying about these craft you’re a socially retarded dimwit.
Did you know that Harvard is running a nationwide program to encourage astronomical observatories to observe the local sky for these technologically advanced craft. The head of the program is a Avi Loeb, the head of Harvard’s astronomy program. It’s not a conspiracy theory and they actually have a webpage. Yeah I looked it up for you because you’re too dumb to know how to use a search page, right?
see the problem here is you believe what the government is telling you. I dont understand this logic at all, did you get a vax? where have you been the last 2 years cus all governmental bodies have shown themselves to be nothing but liars and worst murders
lol like whats your train of thought here? the government leis to us about a world wide pandemic but there totally telling the truth about aliens.
your like that battered wife that keeps going back to her husband because he said he changed, fuck me man. you deserve better
You know, I don’t even need to refer to ancient aliens or ex Navy pilots or former Pentagon officials. People like Dr. Steven Greer and historian Richard Dolan have been documenting the UFO cover-up for years.
The tens of thousands of UFO witnesses from around the world are not all lying, they’re not all drunk and they’re not all trying to make money off their UFO book.
Your lack of faith in your fellow humans is disturbing. And that’s probably one of the reasons why the aliens don’t just come out in the open and try to deal with us. People like you would start shooting at them. If the majority of alien entities out there wanted to harm us, we would all already be dead.
Another reason that advanced aliens don’t just show themselves is that primitive/advanced culture shock idea that I tried to describe you three comments ago. A comment that you probably didn’t read carefully enough to really understand. In order to avoid the culture shock, we are going through a gradual disclosure process. I suspect that that gradual disclosure process is somehow being managed by some of those aliens entities in a hands-off sort of way.
Have a nice day, I really don’t wanna hear anymore of your skeptical bullshit.
I think people like Dr. Greer were allowed to see things, and then let to formulate their own ideas. Why, maybe it is a form of preconditioning.
Did you know that the creator of star trek Gene Roddenberry, was a airforce pilot in ww2 and spent a decade investigating plane crashes for the military. The shit he must have seen, I feel like some of it may have bled out into his show.
I do think that if they came out and admitted that we were created by these higher life forms, that most forms of modern religion would collapse, causing mass chaos and panic. Judging how stupid the average person is, thanks to our leaders who dumbed down the education system, fed us poison, and bombard us with billions if not trillions of ads during ones lifetime. I believe modern society as it is would likely collapse.
Humans feel this need to control and subjugate everything, including each other. The idea that there are beings far more powerful than we can contemplate, well I cant imagine it would be good for most of the people.
Testimonies are not evidence, is not that we don't believe some people actually saw something is that what they saw and say is a spaceship may be many other things, it could very well be an holographic illusion. Steven Greer runs a cult and it is obviously a disinformation agent, but it doesn't surprise me one bit you FOLLOW him, because that is what cattle does, they FOLLOW, and if you are not following an ideology, you are following a religion, a cult, a sect, a youtuber, a streamer or something, but cattle does what is made for: FOLLOW WITHOUT QUESTION.
I dont believe the government. I also believe most people who are direct employees of the government are soulless and have no ability to empathize. It would be a mistake to trust them.
I do however trust the thousands of civilian contractors/scientist's/pilots/ who do work for them. Not all of them, and certainly dont believe shit when there is money involved. But I know some of these people, and they wouldnt dedicate their lives to something that was fake. I also have trust in the scientific process, does that make me a idiot? No, because the scientific methods work, but the people that control the information are evil as hell. There are so many people who have ruined their careers as historians/archaeology/scientists because they wanted to find a truth outside of what the experts say is possible. Why all this control if there wasnt something to hide.
We are all entitled to are beliefs and when they are challenged people will get upset, but something tells me you already know this.
Not making claims for one side or the other, but implying that Harvard is in any way credible is not a mistake that should happen around these corners.
You know if corrupt Harvard scientist tell us that smoking is not that dangerous or sugar is not bad for us or the latest Covid vaccine are harmless, yeah we should probably doubt that. Often Harvard pumps out research that backs up the interests of major corporations and political elites.
But when Harvard University pays no attention to UFOs for the entire history of its existence and then one day the head of their astronomy department heads up a nationwide effort to use telescopes to track the skies around earth, that’s a different thing.
That means that the elites who typically control Harvard have given up on trying to suppress the UFO issue. Scientist like Avi Loeb at Harvard and Gary Nolan at Stanford are no longer afraid to look into the POSSIBILITY that aliens have visited earth and are visiting earth.
Or are you smarter than the professors at Harvard and Stanford who want to examine the UFO issue?
why were they known as 'traveling men'.
how did the early priest class calibrate their calculations of planetary conjunctions, especially conjunctions occurring during the daylight hours in their personal area.
how about those who were reported to follow certain stars.
and traditions in the priest class to accept visitors from far lands.
why wouldn't they be expected to tell their myths and stories to one another.
Out of curiosity. Why do you think the church tried to jail Galileo for using a telescope.
Was it to prevent him from seeing god assembling the heavens or something, I am not trying to sound like a douche or that I am teasing you. I am genuinely curious what you think.
why? to stop people from looking into how weird some of history actually is.
So this is Pacal the Great(1) Hes the Mesoamerican version of a king from 600AD, hes often associated with Aliens and advanced technology solely because of the lid covering his tomb and that he might have built some of the ancient pyramids in Mexico.
his tomb lid (2) is pretty cool, its like 10 feet or so long and 10 inches think. its got a huge carving that most people say is a depiction of Pacal flying a space ship. Like hes in a cockpit.
Anyway it takes like to two seconds to find out whats actually being depicted.
(3) this is a tablet called the "Tablet of the foliated tree of life" or "foliated cross"
its not a space ship, its a death or sacrificial alter with the tree of life coming forth from the sacrifice. if you look close it looks like Pacal (on the right of pic 3 )is holding a small child in his arms
(4) this pic is from their oldest book the desden codex. some rulers almanac from 1100ADish
and on the very top of every cross or tree of life (2)(3)(4) is a bird. (5) the bird is a demon death deity called Vucub Caquix.
Pacals tomb isnt a space ship. its simply depicting that he is being offered up to Vucub Caquix after his death.
In conclusion Ancient aliens is a lazy way to confuse history and hide the fact that theres a common trend between megalithic buildings and a strange ruling class with elongated skulls
everywhere we have old megalithic structures, we have elongated skulls.
peru, mexico, egypt, malta
Can you explain to me the alternative?
Youve already admitted that these ancient cultures, separated my massive amounts of distance and time, all have such similar concepts. The great deluge, the rebirth of mankind, their creators teaching them how to exist again.
So do you believe its Abrahamic? Or more pagan. More simply put, do you believe in one all powerful creator, or multiple gods. There is a reason that the Abrahamic god wanted to kill anyone who followed the old gods and the knight templars spent hundreds of years hunting down treasures and artifacts and slaughtering all who dared to defy their religion.
It would seem that each culture had their own interpretation of these things, but they all seem to be similar enough. The more you trace them back, the more of it you can see.
It originally wasnt a tree of life, but the vessel of life. Who knows during what dark age, which king was actually responsible for changing it to a tree. Someone who wasnt able to understand what they were seeing/hearing.
Like another poster said, the show ancient aliens is filled with mostly junk, with some fact in there. I have yet to see anything like the 7 dots glyph, but I was into ancient aliens around 2009, before the show came out in 2011 or something.
I dont claim to know for sure. But I do believe simply because I have seen ufos. Not just glowing lights in the sky, but objects capable of going from zero to mach 22+ in the blink of an eye. Ive seen it a few times in my life. I supposed if I never seen these things, I likely would be skeptical too. We call them unidentified, but our ancestors knew very much who was flying them.
Everyone wants to discredit zecharia sitchin and his book, chariots of the gods. yet the story he tells, is the one that is very similar to gilgamesh. One of the oldest epics in the world, and seems to match up very nicely with what we see on ancient cylinders like i previously mentioned, the 7 dot glyph. Our ancestors used these images to pass on the story, until one day their civilization was gone and a new one was there to pick up the pieces, along with its own interpretation.
Now the only thing that I am on the fence about, is maybe these artifacts are fake. But what about all these other people/religions that still exist, are you going to tell me these are all fake too? Hopi storys are more in line with the truth than the bible is.
I also find it funny that in the early 1900's, shortly after experimenting with radio signals that we would start seeing an increase in these things. Tesla claim to even be receiving signals from them. They spent untold millions(billions in our time) to convince people that what they were seeing was the shine of venus on some swamp gas.
Who knows though.
I just started reading a book called "Children of time." the other day. It's a sci fi, but its apparent to me, that whoever wrote the book believes the same as I do. It almost mirrors what I think happened, except its humans trying to play god on other planets instead of our creators. Funny enough, the name of the main spaceship is called, gilgamesh. Its so obvious.
Another good sci fi, the aliens movie prometheus. Did you know that in old greek legends, prometheus, a servant of zeus or the supreme god, created humans and zeus took the credit? Mirrors the story of Enki and Enlil from Mesopotamia. You wont find this in the modern revisions. Nor the stories about the multiple ages and the rebirth of civilization. It was no secret to them that earth goes through multiple rebirths.
Likely in the form of reoccurring interglacials. If aliens wanted a planet to perform their experiments, they picked a good one. We cant make it more than 13000 years each interglacial before the earth does a purge in the form of a 90,000 year winter.
Again who knows, perhaps it is as simple as one creator god creating all this just so we can love him. :shrugs:
So in my faith that’s called the “logos spermaticos” the seeds of truth. I don’t need you to subscribe to my faith but hear out the example.
AA says aliens are the root cause of isolated communities having things like a flood myth or sky deities. Old school Orthodox Christianity says it’s because they all have a seed of truth, because we did have a flood, we did pass on knowledge of a supreme creator but certain cultures strayed far from that in a “telephone game” type way.
There can be multiple theories as to why, but let’s not pretend that aliens are the only explanation.
A more atheistic person could also hypothesize there was a huge flood in ancient times and humans were around longer than we are aware.
My point is there are multiple theories that have a good shot at solving that riddle.
i've never heard of elongated skulls in malta.
also there are megalithic structures in Lebanon but no elongated skulls.
the Malta skulls were found in the Hal Saflieni Hypogeum. Cant say much about Lebanon myself cus i haven't researched it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEeLRxA0b0U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7r1DZUjDpXo
Some of the largest stones ever quarried and moved. 1600 ton limestone block
Why? Because you never heard of such? :D Everyone thinks they're an expert now because they know 1% of information...
Great find!!! I have researched the Incas, the Scandinavians, the Egyptians, the Eastern Europeans, etc. All have a creation story, then a big flood, then some people from the sea came to tell the story. Basically, all Atlanteans going in different places to spread the cult towards the thunder god. That includes the God of Moses in the Bible - the story on mount Sinai, more specifically. Also, the mentioned burnt sacrifices and animal sacrifices that Noah, Abram [Abraham], and Moses did, as mentioned in the Bible. Bottom line, the god of the old testament is not the same God of the new testament.
interesting input can you elaborate more for me. Do you mean the being thats worshiped or do you mean an actual different creator
Sure thing. Basically, the creator god in every religion is the same. The Al Azif a.k.a. the Necronomicon a.k.a. book of the dead describes that a demon created the human body as a prison. That makes more sense than one that kills Egypt's firstborn but he forgives mistakes.
Also, pay attention that the old testament is documenting a special bloodline. Thinking rationally, who has a motive to describe a bloodline?
Furthermore, the first sin is sex, obviously, but it is described as an apple. If you cut apple horizontally, you will notice a pentagram, which is the sign of the first covenant a.k.a. Cain's covenant to not be killed. Also described in the Al Azif is the pentagram but it is called the elder sign. Nowadays, you cannot see a magician that doesn't use the pentagram to be "recognized by the spirits".
Let me know if you need any further clarification on this subject or anything similar. I will be glad to share anything that I know regarding the subjects I've researched.
That two gods thing is a gnostic type invention that Freemasons push. If you push them further into questioning they will equate Lucifer with Prometheus and Christ and say that old god bad, satan good.
It always seems like a suuuper clumsy attempt to make people worship “the snake in the garden” their Prometheus, their dark prince.
Even as a little atheist kid I laughed at how lame Freemason mythology is. They just wanna mash up all the religions to control people. Manly P Hall an influential Freemason has said as much directly. So I doubt they’re all satanic but just mostly opportunists pushing lame dogma
i'd be thoroughly unsurprised if TPTB that are doing the hiding are themselves ignorant or deceived
Ever since discovering certain deeper truths about the world and its history, I've listened quite keenly indeed to exactly what those at higher levels believe (or at least say they believe) about these matters.
I've come to the conclusion that at each higher level of the pyramid, yes, they are told a few new truths but they are also given a fresh set of lies. I would guess that the dumb ones believe the lies, and the smart ones believe it's best to believe the lies.
For example, all these high occultists like Blavatsky and Pike and particularly Crowley are full of nonsense. Unless you really, really know what you're doing I would tell everyone to stay away from their work.
I suspect that there are at most only a handful at the very top that know the full truth. We shall certainly never know their names, because their non-existence makes them invulnerable.
imho, the deceivers at the top are vulnerable to being deceived by the mysteries themselves or whatever entities they're in contact with.
To put a finer point on it, I would suggest that they give themselves over to deception. I would analogize to those in the military who operate in the mode that they are there to "follow orders". I know officers receive specific training that they are only bound to follow lawful orders, but when push comes to shove how many have internalized that and are actually willing to explicitly disobey? Very few.
They definitely worship something, what it is. Well that's the big question. And normal people think that them worshipping some kind of entity is a big conspiracy when they literally flash the symbols of their religion everywhere. Unbelievable. It's even on the american currency and people still think its a big conspiracy lmao.
I think christians would describe it as satanic, it certainly isnt pleasant or good. It does seem outright evil, but even the atlanteans amongst many of the cultures that followed, use blood magic along with their symbols to influence reality. Id like to say they are crazy, but is it any crazier than the math/symbols we use to decode the secrets of the universe in the form of quantum mechanics. I honestly dont see much of a difference. This is one of the truths behind the idea that thought creates reality.
One of the deeper truths I came to learn, through research entirely outside of occultism or theology, was that Satan exists and precisely who he is. Even for those that believe in Satan, he's not who they think.
Not actively, but just as it happens to come by me, I listen very carefully to what Satanists and occultists and various Elites have to say about the subject, to see if they know the same truth I do. They don't. Satanists say they don't even believe Satan exists and Mark Passio, a former Satanist, confirms this.
The very closest I have ever come across is from Saul Alinsky, who wrote "Rules for Radicals". On the epigraph page, he wrote:
Everyone misses the significance of this, and so never tries to figure out just what the hell he's talking about. But I feel I know exactly what he means, and reading it came as a sort of confirmation of the research I had done. How much of the truth of the surrounding issue did Alinsky know beyond that? Well, maybe none, but who knows?
But the whole thing tied together for me why there was all this "Satanic" stuff floating around the Elite and Freemasonry and occultism, etc, etc. It's because there is something very real at the center, or should I say the top of the pyramid.
You're probably going to have to quote what I wrote that in any way supports Satanists or or condones Satanism. Please read carefully and get back to me.
What of the dogon tribe of mali?
Yes it’s a psychological operation but it’s part of the gradual disclosure operation.
The show presents vast quantities of evidence that aliens interacted with humans and assisted them at times. However, the show then make several outrageous conclusions that don’t follow from the limited evidence, i.e., ”I’m not saying it’s aliens, but it’s aliens” meme.
So the show presents enough good evidence that the average person could use to reach the conclusion that there was an alien presence in the past but then because of the shows misinterpretations, faulty logic, Shakey conclusions, etc.; the average viewer can then go ahead and discredit everything they just saw.
The show sends out mixed messages because it is designed to assist in gradual disclosure process. At first, most people ridiculed the “ancient aliens” show partly due to the weird hosts on the show. However, now we see that credible sources in the Pentagon are coming out and admitting that UFOs are real and need to be investigated.
When authorities finally come out and admit that aliens have been visiting the earth for thousands or millions of years, all those people who used to watch ancient aliens and ridicule it will say “Oh yeah, I knew all about that already, I heard all that evidence so I’m not shocked.”
The point of this process is to gradually get people used to the idea of alien intervention in human history so that they don’t go into massive culture shock when the authorities finally reveal the truth.
The original poster being disillusioned with some of their sloppy academic work is part of the process. Giving people the truth but then temporarily discrediting that truth does help prepare people to eventually be exposed to the shocking truth.
how does purposefully making outlandish, silly and lazy claims about ancient aliens make it easier to accept alien intervention in the long run?
how does easily debunked claims reinforce anything?
Someone very close to you goes to the hospital and is diagnosed with terminal cancer. The doctors give them three months to live. He/She immediately tell friends and family the bad news. However, with a good diet, medical care and support that person actually ends up living another three years.
When they die after three years, are you in shock? Not really, in fact you’re grateful that you knew the truth and that they got three additional years to live. You’re especially grateful because you got to tell them how you felt about them and prepare for their death.
When we think about it we realize that doctors were wrong about how long the patient would live but they were right about the cancer. But you’re not really upset about that.
A week later a second different person close to you has a brain aneurysm which causes a massive brain bleed and within seconds they’re dead.
Are you in shock? Yes, and you’re gonna have a lot of difficulty dealing with their death because you never really got a chance to tell them how you felt about them. You weren’t given the opportunity to gradually get used to the idea that they were going to die.
Do you see the difference? Neither case is great but I would much rather be able to prepare for the death of someone that I loved. Yes of course watching them suffer at all would be painful. However, seeing them finally released from that suffering would also soften the blow of their ultimate death.
If you still don’t understand the difference, go look up the concept of culture shock and consider the worst cases of culture shock. The worst cases are when a primitive group of people suddenly encounter a technologically advanced people for the first time with no warning. These primitive people may have never even known that technologically advanced people existed. Meeting advanced peoples often destroys the physical and mental health of primitive peoples.
When people with advanced technology encounter people who are primitive, they are less shocked. They’ve either read about those primitive people in books or maybe they saw documentaries about those people on television.
The ancient aliens show has been wrong about much of the evidence that they present but that doesn’t eliminate the mountain of credible evidence for the presense of alien entities on earth.
You can’t hand wave away the unidentified flying objects that have been messing with US military forces for the past 50 years. And the US has been one of the most secretive countries about the existence of UFOs. Other countries like Chile or France are much more open about it.
We are gonna have to get used to this idea of the alien presence on Earth. Ancient Aliens did us all a favor in preparing us for disclosure day
there is zero credible evidence for aliens. no physical remains of tech, no physical remains of organics, nothing. All there is lights in the sky called atmospheric phenomenon and sci fiction sold as real life.
Aliens has become the go to explain away modern day mysteries. Strange electro magnetic phenomenon in the atmosphere.. muh aliens, TPTB muh aliens, megalithic structures ..muh aliens.. human orgins.. must be aliens.
its silly and lazy with no creditability.
You seem to have no awareness of what’s going on with the US military these days and how they’re admitting that they can’t explain the presence of mysterious Flying aircraft that outperform the best US fighter jets.
Did you even know that the New York Times has been publishing interviews with Pentagon insiders and Navy pilots who witness these craft frequently? Did you even know that Navy optical equipment and radar tracking equipment verify the craft that the pilots are tracking?
Do you think it’s Chinese drones that are outperforming billion dollar American fighter planes? I live and work in China and I teach at one of the top universities of technology in China. I can tell you right now they’re not capable of significantly producing advanced flight technology on their own. Most of the Chinese planes are copies of Russian fighter planes. Do you think it’s Russia tech? If the Russian military technology is so advanced why didn’t they win Ukrainian war in 10 days.
If you have NO awareness of these FACTS, you’re an uninformed moron. If you think US fighter pilots and radar technicians are lying about these craft you’re a socially retarded dimwit.
Did you know that Harvard is running a nationwide program to encourage astronomical observatories to observe the local sky for these technologically advanced craft. The head of the program is a Avi Loeb, the head of Harvard’s astronomy program. It’s not a conspiracy theory and they actually have a webpage. Yeah I looked it up for you because you’re too dumb to know how to use a search page, right?
https://projects.iq.harvard.edu/galileo/home
Or did I just whip up a fake webpage and hack it onto the Harvard University servers.
I’ll let you figure that one out, Sherlock.
see the problem here is you believe what the government is telling you. I dont understand this logic at all, did you get a vax? where have you been the last 2 years cus all governmental bodies have shown themselves to be nothing but liars and worst murders
lol like whats your train of thought here? the government leis to us about a world wide pandemic but there totally telling the truth about aliens.
your like that battered wife that keeps going back to her husband because he said he changed, fuck me man. you deserve better
You know, I don’t even need to refer to ancient aliens or ex Navy pilots or former Pentagon officials. People like Dr. Steven Greer and historian Richard Dolan have been documenting the UFO cover-up for years.
The tens of thousands of UFO witnesses from around the world are not all lying, they’re not all drunk and they’re not all trying to make money off their UFO book.
Your lack of faith in your fellow humans is disturbing. And that’s probably one of the reasons why the aliens don’t just come out in the open and try to deal with us. People like you would start shooting at them. If the majority of alien entities out there wanted to harm us, we would all already be dead.
Another reason that advanced aliens don’t just show themselves is that primitive/advanced culture shock idea that I tried to describe you three comments ago. A comment that you probably didn’t read carefully enough to really understand. In order to avoid the culture shock, we are going through a gradual disclosure process. I suspect that that gradual disclosure process is somehow being managed by some of those aliens entities in a hands-off sort of way.
Have a nice day, I really don’t wanna hear anymore of your skeptical bullshit.
I think people like Dr. Greer were allowed to see things, and then let to formulate their own ideas. Why, maybe it is a form of preconditioning.
Did you know that the creator of star trek Gene Roddenberry, was a airforce pilot in ww2 and spent a decade investigating plane crashes for the military. The shit he must have seen, I feel like some of it may have bled out into his show.
I do think that if they came out and admitted that we were created by these higher life forms, that most forms of modern religion would collapse, causing mass chaos and panic. Judging how stupid the average person is, thanks to our leaders who dumbed down the education system, fed us poison, and bombard us with billions if not trillions of ads during ones lifetime. I believe modern society as it is would likely collapse.
Humans feel this need to control and subjugate everything, including each other. The idea that there are beings far more powerful than we can contemplate, well I cant imagine it would be good for most of the people.
lol ttyl bro
Testimonies are not evidence, is not that we don't believe some people actually saw something is that what they saw and say is a spaceship may be many other things, it could very well be an holographic illusion. Steven Greer runs a cult and it is obviously a disinformation agent, but it doesn't surprise me one bit you FOLLOW him, because that is what cattle does, they FOLLOW, and if you are not following an ideology, you are following a religion, a cult, a sect, a youtuber, a streamer or something, but cattle does what is made for: FOLLOW WITHOUT QUESTION.
I dont believe the government. I also believe most people who are direct employees of the government are soulless and have no ability to empathize. It would be a mistake to trust them.
I do however trust the thousands of civilian contractors/scientist's/pilots/ who do work for them. Not all of them, and certainly dont believe shit when there is money involved. But I know some of these people, and they wouldnt dedicate their lives to something that was fake. I also have trust in the scientific process, does that make me a idiot? No, because the scientific methods work, but the people that control the information are evil as hell. There are so many people who have ruined their careers as historians/archaeology/scientists because they wanted to find a truth outside of what the experts say is possible. Why all this control if there wasnt something to hide.
We are all entitled to are beliefs and when they are challenged people will get upset, but something tells me you already know this.
the ufos are government created and operated
Some are, some aren’t.
Not making claims for one side or the other, but implying that Harvard is in any way credible is not a mistake that should happen around these corners.
You know if corrupt Harvard scientist tell us that smoking is not that dangerous or sugar is not bad for us or the latest Covid vaccine are harmless, yeah we should probably doubt that. Often Harvard pumps out research that backs up the interests of major corporations and political elites.
But when Harvard University pays no attention to UFOs for the entire history of its existence and then one day the head of their astronomy department heads up a nationwide effort to use telescopes to track the skies around earth, that’s a different thing.
That means that the elites who typically control Harvard have given up on trying to suppress the UFO issue. Scientist like Avi Loeb at Harvard and Gary Nolan at Stanford are no longer afraid to look into the POSSIBILITY that aliens have visited earth and are visiting earth.
Or are you smarter than the professors at Harvard and Stanford who want to examine the UFO issue?
Probably. I didn't sell my soul to the devil.
that smart fcuk, that pretty much laid the foundation for JPL & NASA said...
once america could no longer declare wars on countries, they would declare a space-war against external enemies.
also, the queen of england PULLS FCUKN RANK in the reptilian army.
I made a post about this a long time ago you may find interesting. I definitely can see it being used as a cover up.
Here
why were they known as 'traveling men'. how did the early priest class calibrate their calculations of planetary conjunctions, especially conjunctions occurring during the daylight hours in their personal area. how about those who were reported to follow certain stars. and traditions in the priest class to accept visitors from far lands. why wouldn't they be expected to tell their myths and stories to one another.
Other lands is a lot diffrent then other worlds
Any vids?
pm me mods are jewish
Out of curiosity. Why do you think the church tried to jail Galileo for using a telescope.
Was it to prevent him from seeing god assembling the heavens or something, I am not trying to sound like a douche or that I am teasing you. I am genuinely curious what you think.