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turtlebam 1 point ago +1 / -0

You are right on many regards and I of course can be very wrong in my analysis. I held very similar views earlier but recent development just led me to think otherwise and change my mindset.

BTW I recently watched the documentary you sent of John Hankey on Octover 7th inside job. I have few points that I would like to critique but maybe later if there's time and I would need to watch again. I may make a post about it.

To confirm your suspicions. Yes, the IDF did recruit MANY Hamas operatives. Not only that. It has always manipulated which Palestinian organizations gets more money and assassinates any leader which they deem counter productive to their goals. BUT here's where we differ: They do not control things completely. They nudge and push. But the Palestinians as a whole are determined against their enemy due to the occupation of their homeland. Even if they have a traitor somewhere at the top. It would be truly difficult to control things at every level.

Regarding the hostages, even according to Hamas, the number of hostages still alive seems to be very few. Israelis do control the narratives but it's not as terrible as it used to be before the internet and this is where they have failed.

You can follow people from Gaza making videos and there are many Palestinians abroad who have relatives in Gaza or people with Palestinian friends etc.. I just know for a fact that the narrative pushed and currently accepted as consensus in the alternative media is manipulated and pushed to the extreme of conspiracy instead of a rational discussion.

They push normies in one direction and us in conspiracy circle in the opposite direction.

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turtlebam 3 points ago +3 / -0

Man, regain your power. Stop the defeatism. Go out more and watch the screen less. You should keep on the fight no matter what.

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turtlebam 7 points ago +7 / -0

Thanks for the post. I never knew about this one.

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turtlebam 3 points ago +3 / -0

This assumes the American army and the Jews behind it have invincible omnipotent powers which I think they no longer have.

The purpose of the Afghanistan or Iraq war wasn't about opiates or oil. Those are lubricants to grease the traitors. Iraq was about the greater Israel project.

We should consider the possibility that the US army is losing the ability to project its power just like Rome at its last stages. They may have also felt it reasonable that the Taliban could be the lesser of 2 evils for whatever reason.

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turtlebam 2 points ago +2 / -0

Ouch... what a blunder that was :D

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turtlebam 4 points ago +4 / -0

Original find, if anyone is interested in sharing or further investigating please do.

Basically a Jew from Montreal by the name of Karl Bernard is probably one of the most influential unheard of figure of pornography.

What I know for a fact is he was responsible for Gamma Entertainment Inc (Not to be mistaken with Gamma Entertainment Ltd).

Gamma Entertainment Inc is probably the biggest name in porn. It also manages small uprising websites.

Where it gets interesting is that not only does it own those brands. It also facilitates their servers!! Something I was always curious about is how they can afford those servers. Apparently they do it through Karl Bernard company called seed box.

Edit: I am speculating that all other large porn websites are connected to Karl Bernard. For example this one seems to be managed by a suspicious figure with the name of Sadiq Khan whom once you open his profile you would see that he follows Karl Bernard companies especially seed box.

Most curious of all is the fact that he is connected to the Gertler family. Long read but you can check here: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?541378-Rwanda-genocide-France-Britain-and-the-UN

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turtlebam 1 point ago +1 / -0

Again, I know people who communicate with people there. It's not a great connection but messages do get through. There is difficulty in electricity even, relying on scarce generators with little fuel. Using Israeli sim cards or sharing of sat internet and scarce solar power etc.. but internet is not COMPLETELY cut and this is a matter of fact. Otherwise you wouldn't be seeing all the recent videos you see now. I am well aware of all the infrastructure destruction including electrical and communication.

I also realize all the towers and surveillance the IDF had around Gaza and they had plans to cover all possiblities. But you miss an important point. You think those on Hamas at all levels were so idiotic as to kill themselves with zero chance of success?

To give an example, Israel had what should have been an impossible barrier to breach on the Suez canal. Yet in 1973 it was run over by the Egyptians. The Egyptians later lost due to either treason or fatal mistakes of Sadat but I won't get into that (There are a lot of details). Same with Germany and France Maginot Line in WW2.

You put up an impossible to breach wall. Then someone will dedicate all of their ability to breach it. A very large tunnel was used by the way in the first breach from Gaza. All those cameras and infrared surveillance were useless. The bulldozers and land breach with pickup trucks was only done after they neutralized the defenses after breaching with the tunnel. We may never know all the details of the operation.

Did Netanyahu or his opposing faction make the army stand down for a while to make matters worse? Was Netanyahu or others waiting for something like this to happen to start this genocide? Most likely. Things are complicated. The official narrative is on one end and unfortunately the conspiratorial narrative is on another and both are usually not the full truth or rather simplistic versions of it.

They want you demoralized to think that there is nothing you can ever do to fight Jews or that no one can ever accomplish anything and that they have god like powers. Hence the similar line pushed in conspiracy circles that Hitler was Jewish or Jewish puppet. It was complicated but he wasn't Jewish nor a complete puppet. (Manipulated perhaps, pushed in a direction, placed for usefulness? most likely)

Thanking your captures is normal if they treated you well for a long time, both of you facing the dangers of being bombed by airplanes and knowing for a fact that all the beheading and rape stories are lies. And especially knowing that are others still held captive.

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turtlebam 4 points ago +4 / -0

Yes, it's rather annoying to be honest. On multiple occasions I almost knocked these buggers out.

What I've been trying to explain here: https://conspiracies.win/p/17tKio7vl7/discussion-oct-7th-revisited/c/ is because things are not going great for them they have sent many abroad.

The north of occupied Palestine (i.e. so called Israel) is empty now. Has been empty since October 7th due to Hezbollah rockets. Around Gaza it's also empty. There is no space for all of them inside of Palestine. Many have also fled to avoid conscription or because they are thinking the Jewish project is done for.

They have been raping their own inside evacuation hotels as well: https://www.timesofisrael.com/displaced-women-children-endure-sexual-violence-inside-evacuee-hotels/

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turtlebam 1 point ago +1 / -0

Now you are talking like a Jew. Follow this guy to get a glimpse: https://twitter.com/jonelmer

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turtlebam 2 points ago +2 / -0

There is more than ample proof of Jewish militias being liquidated. I am not going to supply you with the endless videos saved on my hard drive of them being hunted down or their funerals or them being cut to pieces or are in hospitals with lost limbs. I suggest you actually talk to people who are involved.

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turtlebam 2 points ago +2 / -0

The footage is there of course but will they release them?

And if Jews were so superior and "secure" how come they are still losing men 8 months later in spite of all the American shabbos goys and mercenaries from all over the world fighting for them with endless supply of munition and logistics?

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turtlebam 2 points ago +2 / -0

Actually internet is not cut in Gaza. They sometimes do cut it but it's not completely cut. And I know people in real life who know people in Gaza so I am not completely out of the loop.

Hostages thanking their captors is nothing special really, they treated them well and many even still had relatives who are captive.

BTW there are still demonstrations and people against Netanyahu inside Israel. You can just go Yotube and search for israel protest (search for uploaded this week)

The logistics of the attack may seem improbable but they are not impossible. You have to consider those who did the attack didn't just do the expected. If you watch the videos of the fighting you can still see they are taking out many invading Jewish militias.

Do Jews want to genocide and expel the Palestinians? Yes

Were they waiting for Hamas to attack to give them excuse to per-planned scenario like this one? Yes

Did they plan THIS attack and everything that is happening now? I am not so sure and this where we differ. I think the timing of the attack was inconvenient to Jews and they are not in complete control of the flow of events now.

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turtlebam 1 point ago +1 / -0

It's not that simple actually. There were so many things going on in WW2 that it's difficult to pinpoint. Perhaps the treason of Wilhelm Canaris was more pivotal? Maybe Mussolini and the Italians did it?

While Hitler had his mistakes, in other instances things could have gone better if they listened to him. (He wanted to focus on submarines earlier while navy generals didn't want to), in another instance he meddled in the Me-262 development causing delays.

The unfortunate defeat was mostly for the fact that the first foundation (i.e. America) was completely controlled by Jews and that turned the tide. (The USA is simply the first foundation for Jews, so called Israel is the second foundation according to Jewish Asimov Foundation book BTW)

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turtlebam 2 points ago +2 / -0

Thank you! I try to pass on any cool stuff I come across.

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turtlebam 3 points ago +3 / -0

I know most of you here are already aware of this but the research put into this one is top notch. I think this one can also be easily shared to normies. The CIA is of course one and the same with Mossad.

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turtlebam 2 points ago +2 / -0

It was a brand new American helicopter and I am pretty sure they had all the spare parts needed. This was intentional.

Did Jews do it with the assistance of the Ayatollah? Most likely so. The Ayatollah is the real deep state in Iran.

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turtlebam 1 point ago +1 / -0

I don't know if you are misguided or toying with me, either way this is a waste of time. If you care to learn something. Make a serious direct question and I will answer it. Your recent answers demonstrate a deep lack of knowledge of Jews and a lot of other things.

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turtlebam 1 point ago +1 / -0

No worries, so you don't prefer the Jewish name of Rafi/Rafael? You don't mix with your own a lot then? That's why you don't see the problem. If you went to a Kibbutz you wouldn't be defending them that's for sure. It's not me that's your problem. Its' your kibbutznik like Adam Neumann and so many of his ilk that are screwing you over in America and bringing so much flak to you. How about Jonathan Pollard? Go to his comment section and tell him a thing or two. He single-handedly destroyed your reputation more than any other.

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turtlebam 3 points ago +3 / -0

I think they assassinated him because maybe he overstepped the boundaries set to him by the Ayatollah and Jews behind the scenes.

If you have noticed, Jewish militias have been eating shit in the last few days in Jabalia in Gaza. So many Jewish militia members liquidated and purified by the Palestinian resistance in just a manner of few days. Something didn't work alright for Jews. Maybe this Iranian president has given the Palestinians more than they anticipated? They had to take it out on someone

Also, in Lebanon, they shot down a high tech Jewish militias' balloon that was just given to them by the American only few days ago. Were Jewish militias angered that the Lebanese resistance now has more advanced weapons than they thought should be allowed?

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turtlebam 2 points ago +2 / -0

This! I have a feeling that in Iran. The Ayatollah is the basically the deep state. The presidents like this guy they assassinated and Ahmadinejad are allowed some freedom to operate but if they overstep it they are taken out or taught their place. I've even seen pictures of Ahmadinejad having been beaten up and looking like he was tortured.

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turtlebam 1 point ago +1 / -0

I am well aware of how incompetent they are. You my friend on the other hand underestimate how treasonous all politicians are.

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