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ewxilk 2 points ago +2 / -0

I think I know what you mean and you could be right. Usually we assume that for most people thought process is more or less the same, but that might not be the case. In other words, NPCs really might exist.

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ewxilk 3 points ago +3 / -0

Yep, that's exactly what I meant. Really believing something is not quite the same as simply going with the narrative because this or that reason.

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ewxilk 3 points ago +3 / -0

Those are some good points. Was it you who recommended Julian Jaynes and his book The Origin of Consciousness? Well, whaddayaknow, I did actually read it! Found it very thought provoking as well. Thanks!

This time, however, my idea was that while large part of normies really might be incapable of independent thought outside their percieved authority, perhaps for some other part it's more like cold calculation and not literal wiring of their brain. Like, they don't really believe in mainstream narrative, but have decided to go along with it (and go along hard, even in private) because that way they can recieve some perks from the system. For example, because it's easier, there's less social pressure that way, because they want to have a carreer in some normie-only profession... etc, etc...

I guess the main difference here is in the process itself. How exactly this outsourcing of thought process happens. Was it conscious or unconscious? Was it more like a choice or more like a literal wiring of a brain? Things like that.

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ewxilk 2 points ago +2 / -0

Smart ones carefully draw this picture by themselves, adjusting it to be consistent and logical as they acquire new knowledge about world, others just blindly copy what MSM paint them.

Yep, seems like it, but do those who blindly copy actually believe in it? Or it's more like cold calculation? Something like: if I follow the mainstream my life will be easier and more comfy so I'll follow it no matter what.

Haha, didn't know it's called like that. I think most of the shitty overpriced and unnecessary stuff thrives on this phenomena. Throw in some influencers to advertise your stuff and hamsters will never admit they just spent tons of money on useless stuff they don't actually need.

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ewxilk 3 points ago +3 / -0

I don't see it as active support, more like how Russians acted under Communism.

I've thought about this example as well. On the other hand, back then there was this thing called kitchen talk. In public people really did pay minimally required lip service. In private, though, it was kind of a badge of honor to expose your actual views in one way or another. In public was one thing, but in the kitchen, eye to an eye, well, that was a whole another thing.

It's not quite so in this case. Most of the normies will defend mainstream lies in public as well as in private.

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ewxilk 2 points ago +2 / -0

They’re not intelligent enough to make a conscious decision.

Hmm, I'm not sure this is a question of intelligence... To see through (most of) the lies you don't really need a lot of intelligence... It's more like willingness to step off the beaten path. Readiness to not do as others do. Something along those lines...

Covid really was one of the most transparent scams ever perpetuated, you could see things not being quite right with a naked eye, without any deep research required whatsoever... and yet, most of the population went along with it...

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ewxilk 2 points ago +2 / -0

...if they crave security and acceptance they will believe anything...

Yeah, but will they actually believe? Or will they just make believe?

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ewxilk 3 points ago +3 / -0

...because your success shows their failure, and their failure is due to cowardice.

I've noticed it too. You can't fully express your views, your values and your position not because it's wrong or false, but because it exposes lack in other party's views or values. I often tone it down a bit. Sometimes unconsiously, sometimes consciously. People don't like being pulled out of their comfort zone. If you do it too quickly they'll switch to defense mode and once they do, nothing else matters anymore. If they are in defence mode no arguments, proof or even common sense won't work anymore.

I can't say I hate them though. I used to be angry, but now I'm just sad, I guess... Sad that humanity has turned out the way it has.

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ewxilk 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yes, cowardice. In OP I mentioned not caring, but there might be a lot of other reasons as well. Cowardice, laziness, social pressure (which should count as cowardice, I guess) and so on... One reason in particular could be cold calculation. Those people are probably even worse than cowards.

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ewxilk 3 points ago +3 / -0

Yep, seems like it. It is similar to what I meant in OP. Real believers are in minority. The rest of them have chosen to not know. Due of underlying worldview, education, upbringing, social pressure or some other reason...

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ewxilk 5 points ago +5 / -0

Yeah, but if they have to actively avoid information it means they do realize something is amiss. It's as if they've made conscious decision to not know.

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ewxilk 2 points ago +2 / -0

NPCs. Yeah, seems like. But the question is: are they really fooled or they simply do not care?

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ewxilk 3 points ago +3 / -0

Sure, I've met them too. Still, I'd say that those rabid ones are in minority. For example, from all covid believing normies I know in real life I'd say only one was the way you described... and few others who were not exactly rabid, but it seemed they really believe in official propaganda. All the rest of them though... I don't know... they went through the motions, they parroted all the slogans, but I didn't get impression that they actually believe in it. Also, most of them didn't follow any stupid protocols in private, but defended them when asked.

Same holds true today as well. They repeat all the catchphrases and might even argue a bit, but it looks more like automaton repeating a program than actual belief and real thought process.

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ewxilk 2 points ago +2 / -0

King's case is curios in general.

When you look back at his writing as a whole, it becomes noticeable that all his works push this or that mainstream narrative point. Sometimes he uses mainstream narrative as main plot line, sometimes it's just something mentioned in passing.

For example, the whole of 11/22/63 is built around the narrative that the official Kennedy story is true. In general his works always enforce the image of various agencies or institutions working for the greater good. He never criticizes government or the system as a whole. It's always about few bad apples: some bad politicians, bad cops etc, but never about the system as a whole.

Also, his works are chok full of various small enforcements of mainstream narratives. Like his latest stories often mention in passing mask wearing, vaccination and that terrible, terrible "pandemic" we just had.

All of that leads to a guess that he might be a government or CIA asset. I don't know whether he's on a direct CIA payroll or is it organized in some roundabout way (through his literary agents or editors probably), but at this point it really does seem that the man is not just a writer with TDS and some weird ideas. It's likely that he's a Deep State asset with a task to push some particular narratives and talking points.

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ewxilk 2 points ago +2 / -0

I think you're on to something. Currently I see two possibilities. It is a psyop gone wrong or everything is going according to the plan.

First possibility is simpler. It started as a psyop, but somewhere along the way it went wrong and now they're trying to bury it and get done with it.

Second one though... I have no idea what would be the purpose. Could it be to finally reveal the truth that no government works for their people? To make mass dissatisfaction with their respective governements so enormous that they would cheer up tearing it all down and replacing with something else entirely. I mean, it's true that current governments are little more than bunch of criminals, but they might have something much worse in store for us. Like, total AI and tech industry dictatorship or something like that...

Another possibility is that they are playing same old good cop, bad cop game they're always playing. Primaries are planned to go to the Democrats and two years later US will get Democratic president who will continue to fuck everything up while whining how bad Trump was. Then, in another four years it'll be flipped once again and so on ad infinitum.

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ewxilk 4 points ago +4 / -0

I don't think there even is such a person. He doesn't exist. It's just an avatar for those who created blockchain. Probably some globalist organization or government agency.

I think this whole coin thing is just a test run for global digital currency. Hamsters thinking they're running for freedom actually are running right into the trap.

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ewxilk 1 point ago +1 / -0

That's because at this point I'm not entirely sure myself. Are zionists part of it all? Yes, definitely. Is that all there is? Are they The Ultimate Evil and that's all that's going on? Well, I'm not sure about that.

Sorry to disappoint you, I'm not an agent... but I'm also not American. I'm from Eastern Europe, which kind of gives all this shitshow some perspective and is probably one of the reasons why I'm not a huge fan of simple black/white, good/evil explanations. Actual life usually is more complex than simple good guys vs evil guys Hollywood blockbuster.

That said, there is a kernel of truth in what you're saying. I just don't want to jump too early to conclusions.

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ewxilk 3 points ago +3 / -0

Coud be. Perhaps there's some threshold beyond which it becomes noticeable in physical world as well.

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ewxilk 3 points ago +3 / -0

TIme has been speeding up for while now. I'm constantly short on time and weeks or even months and seasons go by and seem like one huge blur.

My take is that it is speeding up on some very basic fundamental level. On the level of physics' laws or something like that. We can't quite measure it, because all the measuring devices have been speeding up as well. We can only detect it with our consiousness and also on a subconscious level.

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ewxilk 1 point ago +1 / -0

You could be right about power structure... Still, I think that Epstein list is just a fairy tale for the masses. Not because there's no one to put on it, but because no one at the top gives a fuck about it. The purpose of The List is to keep masses distracted as long as possible. It was never going to be made public even if there was one.

You want a list? How about a list of all of them? There, solved it for you.

I still do remember how few years ago all of them were quite happy to play pretend pandemic game. This side and that side alike. Bibi as well as Ayatollah both where quite happy to pose for fake jab photoshoots. Trump was in on it as well. What makes you think that any of them care about truth, justice, ordinary people or stuff like that?

Even more, it's not just about particular names and surnames. It's about the system as a whole. We literally live in a slave system that's based on lies and deception a little less than entirely. The whole structure is essentially a scam designed to fuck people over as much as possible. Saying things like "two wings of the same bird", "they're all in on it" and such, although true, do not even scratch the surface of how fucked up it all actually is.

That all said, it really is curious to see Trump so frustrated when asked about the list. I still think I'm right on this, but who knows? Anything is possible, really.

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ewxilk 2 points ago +2 / -0

Seems like it. For me personally this year has been especially rich on various types of blackpills. The myth of "vote harder" being one of them.

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ewxilk 1 point ago +1 / -0

Nothing from my post excludes possibility zionists being behind it. Also, I didn't mean that abuse is not happening. It might. It's just that current clownshow we're witnessing is most probably fake. That group of psychopaths I'm talking about very well might be something like zionists... although I wouldn't be too surprised if it turned out that zionists are also just puppets like everyone else in this shitshow circus of a world we live in.

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ewxilk 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yes, this! I think this goes for Prigozhin as well. He's not dead. There's no body, no photos, nothing. Someone told on the news that he is dead without even a shred of evidence and most people went with it. Just like that! It's actually quite astonishing how easily masses can be duped these days. Even a lot of people with critical mindsets are not that hard to dupe.

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ewxilk 2 points ago +2 / -0

Or it's a plot of TPTB to replace (what's left of) democracy with AI rule. See, the illusion of democracy is crumbling. Soon, very soon knowledge that democracy is a sham will be public. Elites, if they seek to remain in power, have to come up with something new and come up fast.

I propose that this whole AI thing is being ramped up deliberately. The elites would still be in power, only this time democracy illusion would be replaced with AI illusion. Hell, they even could pull off deliberate depopulation with the help of AI illusion. Create an AI/Human war in which a lot of humans die. Then take control and rule over those who've survived.

In short: There is no such thing as independent AI. Also, it does not think in a true sense of that word. It is all being controlled by the same groups that control today's governments.

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