Do you consider my suspicion unwarranted given Tucker's applying for CIA in the past and Joe's podcast exploding and becoming a pop culture precedent with a huge influence among the younger msm and politically skeptical "red-pilled", "soft conspiracy" demographic? Add Jordon Peterson and you'll have the holy trinity of the intel-ran counterculture movement.

I agree with many things Tucker says and I think he's pretty based but that doesn't mean he can't be propped up as controlled opposition.

Two glowies talking about the deep state. Hilarious.

That 2nd mouse is not a control because the experiment is not performed on it, and therefore it doesn't provide any results to measure against the other group.

Of course it is. The experiment is whether a sample from a healthy animal, lacking the suspected pathogen will give the same result as the sample from the infected animal when cultured. Then he inoculates the healthy animal with the culture from the diseased animal and if we observe the same pathology, then Koch concludes it's the bacteria causing the disease. What other control would you expect? To inoculate another healthy animal with a pure culture? Provided the culture is neutral (and not full of toxic drugs and cancerous cells as in the virus culture they're using) this is redundant.

It's just a graphic showing that he ASSUMES there is no virus present in a healthy animal, which is he himself realized wasn't true, causing him to abandon postulate #1, and also invalidating #3 in the process as well.

Here we go again - Koch didn't work with viruses, but with bacteria he could observe. His experiment doesn't make sense in the case of non-observable pathogens. Bacteria (or rather germs) do exist. Koch never had to prove their existence because he could take a sample from an animal, having symptoms of a disease, and see the germs under a microscope BEFORE culturing it. That's not the case with viruses, and that's why it's existence is dubious.

So then.... Why are you trying to use it as evidence for a completely different claim that it's not even testing?

It's like I'm arguing with a wall. Just try being good faith for a change. Did I appeal to Koch? What I said was:

Since Koch was fake and gay also, let's put him and his postulates aside. How does one go about proving a hypothesized pathogen caused the symptoms or the disease observed to fulfil the scientific requirement for knowledge?

Since we both agree Koch's postulates were not devised for proving the existence of a non-observable pathogen (and are not ideal for proving causation for that matter) stop trying to red-herring me into defending Koch and his fake and gay postulates, and give me a scientifically sound experiment that can be used for that. You're the one arguing viruses exist and cause disease - ok how do you prove that claim?

Of course. It's the oldest heresy the Early Church fought against. I even named it more specifically as marcionism but I asked you why is it true, not what it is.

Just to let you know, terms like "Christ consciousness" were devised by the same people you think you're against - you know, the ones who want to depop and enslave you, the NWO technocratic Royal Society elite.

This whole idiosyncratic gnostic pseudo religion is specifically devised to steer away people from traditional religions, especially Christianity, to uproot them from tradition and to instill the new values they want people to adopt. There are lots of NWO propaganda books talking about it like H.G. Wells - God the invisible King, J. Huxley - Religion without Revelation, A. Huxley - The Perennial Philosophy, the SRI's Changing images of Man, the whole theosophy and new age (which introduced the gaylien narrative) and later hippy psychedelic movement - all were propped up by tptb.

But I guess I'm the one being fooled here. There's nothing less organic than the stuff you believe in. They took bits and pieces of various worldviews and religions and created a monstrosity they use to indoctrinate young impressionable kids and not-so-young edgelords who think they figured out the secrets of the world in their gnostic "hero's journey".

I based my guess off the things you said apart from the prot background which was a blind guess since you could have been an atheist before that. You may not agree to the labels but that's how those ideas are generally referred to.

There are only so many possible positions one can hold about the world regarding metaphysics, epistemology and ethics. For example you either hold that the universe is strictly material and deterministic or you believe in non-material existence. You either hold that we can have true knowledge about the world or are an epistemological nihilist. You either hold that morals are objectively true or that they are human constructs and so on.

Sometimes the choice could be multiple like in the famous philosophical problem of the one and the many as follows.

Is the world ultimately expressed in:

1. oneness (monism; "We're all One/God, man. All distinctions are an illusion"),
2. multiplicity (pantheism; "Everything is God, man" - basically reduces to monism),
3. dialectical opposition (dualism; yin and yang; struggle between one and many; basis for marxism and many other worldviews)
4. Trinity (the Christian doctrine that transcends the dialectic and brings harmony between the opposites).

Falling into one category or another is inevitable. You can pick and choose your different positions that form your worldview but all of them come with entailments and such a reductionist approach to worldviews leads to views that contradict each other leading to incoherency. All forms of gnosticism falls prey to this.

I'd go further and say all mental illness is the result of demonic possession. All the drugs do is suppress the symptoms and the channels the demons use, but there's a reason why there's no definitive alopathic cure for them.

Exactly. The internet of things doesn't care about cables or wifi.

Idiot evangelists quote-mine the Bible out of context to subvert the true faith. This is the source of the rapture heresy.

1 Thessalonians 4:17 17 Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord.

Revelation 3:10 Because you have kept [a]My command to persevere, I also will keep you from the hour of trial which shall come upon the whole world, to test those who dwell on the earth.

I'm sure. I've listened to it years ago and it just gets more and more accurate with each year. The level of planning is insane. If coincidence theorists had any reasoning they would have to admit we live in a well constructed Skinner box and nothing happening in society is organic.

The Day tapes along with the Protocols of the Elders are the two biggest revelations of the NWO plan afaik.

No, idiot. I just checked the page he gave and didn't find it there - what else to think? I'm skeptical about random quotes to begin with. I stand corrected.

No thanks. I'll stick to the Church our Lord Jesus Christ established and entrusted to His apostles by sending the Holy Spirit to reside over it at Pentecost.

I don't want to engage with new-agey bs but I have to ask - why is Christ cool and "the god of the OT" (who according to the Bible is also Christ but we'll let that one slide) is bad? Christ quoted the OT quite a bit and wouldn't shut up about being the same God from the OT along with His Father.

It seems to me they apply soft eugenics/dysgenics through economy, culture and education. That's a common obsession the Royal Society elite has - Bertrand Russel writes about it in the Effects of science on society and The Scientific Outlook, Julian Huxley also fawns over eugenics and transhumanism. Jonas Salk (Survival of the wisest) and Charles Galton Darwin (The next million years) get into the benefits of eugenics too. I've done research on globalist NWO writings by the technocratic elite.

They argue the scientific elite (the new priest class) should take evolution in their own hands and steer humanity towards a better future (better for them of course).

This all ties in with the Georgia Guidestones, Kissinger report and the Club of Rome malthusian depop agenda.

People tend to dismiss the Day tapes because they lack knowledge of those books and reports. It's all out in the open - H.G. Wells wrote a books called The New World Order and The Open Conspiracy: Blueprints for a World Revolution almost a 100 years ago. Not too subtle.

Yes, I checked the book. There's nothing about Hitler in those pages.

You mean if your body stops producing sufficient insulin. That's when blood sugar spikes and you get diabetes.

Agreed. But mass killing has never been an issue for any totalitarian regime. Once they're in power nothing is stopping them. It's not a matter of technology or logistics - you just need bullets. That's why the whole Holocaust narrative makes zero sense.

It's an artefact from studio lightning. Everyone knows you need sunglasses to really see them.

Those are rookie numbers compared to the USSR and China. But at least the weren't Christian nationalists, am I right?

Marcionism detected (along with some weird 20th century new age/theosophy babbling).

Aliens are fake and gray.

No, his memoirs: https://archive.org/details/eyeswideopenmemo0000raph/page/156/mode/2up

It's not there either - the quote is fake and gay. Always check your sources guys.

I meant faith in epistemological sense, not religious. Atheists base their worldview on faith also. The question is how is each worldview grounded and how are beliefs justified in that worldview.

I know you're not an atheist since you mentioned God. My guess was you're gnostic, most likely coming from a protestant background judging by your outlook on organized religion. You have a idiosyncratic system centered around pantheism/monism (God is all of us) and gnosticism which is very prevalent in conspiracy circles. Anyways, I'm not going to debate you on religion here. I'd rather concentrate on our common ground which is conspiracy and geopolitics.

Ok, just a little pin prick there'll be no more aaaahhh, but you may feel a little sick

Christ and His Church is the ultimate truth. I've been a hardcore atheist for the better part of my life and know both sides of the argument inside and out. I can get into a philosophical discussion about truth and knowledge and demonstrate to you all knowledge is faith based. There are no self-evident truths or brute facts that are not interpreted through a worldview and that exist absent of a mind.

For the same reason they pushed the food pyramid or cereals as a healthy breakfast. They want you eating goy slob that will make you dumb, sterile, dependent and ultimately - dead.

Here's Dr. Day (Planned Parenthood pediatrician) talking about it being part of the NWO plan back in 1969 conference.

He then went on to talk about nutrition and exercise, sort of in the same framework. People would have to eat right and exercise right to live as long as before. Most won't.

In connection with nutrition, there was no specific statement that I can recall regarding particular nutrients that would be either inadequate or in excess. In retrospect, I tend to think he meant high salt diets and high fat diets would predispose [people] toward high blood pressure and premature arteriosclerotic heart disease. And that if people who were too dumb or too lazy to exercise as they should then their dietary fats [would] go up and predispose [them] to disease. And he said something [to the effect that] dietary information, [information] about proper diet, would be widely available, but that most people – particularly stupid people, who had no right to continue living anyway – would ignore the advice and just go on and eat whatever was convenient and tasted good.

There were some other unpleasant things said about food. I just can't recall what they were. But I do remember [thinking] about wanting to plant a garden in the backyard to get around whatever these contaminated foods would be. I regret I don't remember the details ... the rest of this ... about hazardous nutrition.

Here are the full tapes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyACtDFbFu8

I think you misunderstood me. I meant getting blackpilled only without the positive side (like Christianity) leads to nihilism. If one is well grounded in the ultimate truth and the universal good which is God, they can take all the blackpills you throw at them.

Most likely yes, but at least they are not as fake and gay as the west.