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HonestTruth 2 points ago +2 / -0

SMO = Special Military Operation ATO = Anti-Terrorist Operation

The different is purely semantic on the legal end with the russians. (somewhat internationally) With a special military operation they are limited in what can be deployed and how the response can be formulated. With an anti terrorist operation those constraints do not exist.

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HonestTruth 1 point ago +1 / -0

Still waiting for you to take the time to produce a response here:

I would be interested to read your thoughts in point form with respect to why the earth is flat in your understanding, why we care and if you can fill in any other blanks if you would be so kind.

https://communities.win/c/Conspiracies/p/15Jn20UhSn/solar-micronova--the-end-of-an-a/c/4OdiUnqwgRq

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HonestTruth 3 points ago +3 / -0

lol, and go where? Reality is, we are in a fucked up situation because of the design of the globalists have created this, so clearly we just need to take them out of power and begin repairs.

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HonestTruth 1 point ago +1 / -0

Seriously scrub, your shitty posts and words have no value here, you are just wasting your time, I was the last one to give you a chance and now it is also gone.

You should just return to reddit, your garbage has no place here.

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HonestTruth 1 point ago +1 / -0

It is not even worth loading your links now loser, do you get it? you are finished here. You might as well delete that account.

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HonestTruth 1 point ago +1 / -0

Russia has all the aether and filled their tanks, zipped across the flat stuff. np.

Currently have all the magnetrons aligned with the firmament bits and ready to roll on you, also each soldier is equipped with a pair of your mom's panties.

Being the original creators of the flat earth and the buildings and stuff, they know how to make them lean.

All of this brought to you by the cabal, who have enslaved your families in such beliefs for time immemorial.

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HonestTruth 1 point ago +1 / -0

yep, typical coward. You have lost all respect here, just another shill piece of shit confirmed. Have a nice day loser.

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HonestTruth 1 point ago +1 / -0

Right, confirmed. You have no clue about the garbage you spread and your understanding of the claims made in the flat earth belief set are unclear to you.

Denying providing even a listing or anything of value just proves further the statements made, I made it about half way clicking.

The series of claims made are just propaganda with a spin of personal bias from the writer/narrator.

Nothing of value. For example, all the old churches are magnetrons for pulling energy from the aeither.

lol ok. So what devices did this massive electrical grid power perse? Where are the corresponding evidential items? And where do they get off saying all of earth was covered in this shit? hahah ridiculous stuff, this stuff is for people who have no fucking clue at all isnt it?

All the canals dug by previous people because we can't do shit, we haven't been constructing with things for ten thousand years.

The fail claim that people cannot dig basements in the victorian era, all the shit is just a constant line of bullshit.

I figure the people who come to this conclusion of a fail understanding simply have no mechanical capability, no innovation no imagination just braindead fuckers.

Like you, who will not even produce the list of points you lean on, cause you are a fucking coward and history will forget you.

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HonestTruth 2 points ago +2 / -0

Each discourse with you reminds me of the vile simplicity running in your brain to speak so highly of something you really know nothing about.

It is easy to identify you in a crowd with this knowledge, do you know that? People so simple, led by their noses anywhere.

So, this 'question' is not something I came up with a mere four minutes ago, I have been questing for the frank list of main points of belief that are used to subjugate people like you into believing something with next to no evidence for a while now.

So if you would be so kind, it would really speed this whole shit up.

Just produce a small list of the main points that draw you to the conclusion we are on a flat earth. So far all the points I have reviewed do not strike me as anything other than hyperbole.

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HonestTruth 1 point ago +1 / -0

Bud, you are really just being silly.

So you see a picture and you need a flat earth reason for it to be empty and void of people.

The picture is instead being used to sell you a fable. That is the reality. It should be easy to understand why so many such pictures exist, yet it fits your narrative of belief to proclaim they exist to sell your point.

Just like the claim of cities filled with mud, the few pictures exampled are for me pretty suspect as they look like simple weather events brought some new dirt in.

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HonestTruth 1 point ago +1 / -0

I don't need some imaginary reason to explain why there are no people in photo's.

You do.

I am confident in my current understanding of the importance of capturing frames in the past and in the present.

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HonestTruth 2 points ago +2 / -0

What I want, is a clear listing of the claims that allow one to accept the flat earth belief system.

I would also like to accompany it a list of as many claims that are rejected due to the flat earth belief as is possible (sun is a lamp, sun and moon are close, no asteroid?) shit like that.

So if you wanted to simplify getting someone to accept this you would be able to have a point form listing of what specific points would be used to persuade someone.

I can then take each of those points and research them individually.

The last thing I want, is a fucking salesman or some other evangelist to preach to me their belief and all the fail reasons in their logic why they clamber for what is most likely nonsense given the total amount of information they have on the topic.

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HonestTruth 2 points ago +2 / -0

I already told you why there was no people, do you need to go back and re-read it? Do you not understand people at all? Imagine living in an era with no phones first of all. No TV no electricity no running water.

The boss tells you it is photo time. It is basically a sacred event. If a man and a cart was in the shot, holding pose, it was art. clearly.

Seriously, if you are watching crap like this at normal speed and trying to hang on every word he repeats over and over, its no fucking wonder you are a bit insane huh?

I will imagine based on your statements, that I have collected more information about the claims in this video to the point I am than you have.

Again, I have made some points, the video is still there paused, I will try to make it to the end, because I can honestly admit I am a bit curious why people are clambering for this belief over all the other stupid shit people have to choose from.

So far, given the 'episodes' within the video I can comfortably tell you, this guy is a salesman delivering a salespitch and it is at least 98% bullshit based on that alone.

So far 0 evidence 0 facts just wild claims bordering nonsense.

Imagine a car salesman saying "Look, if you buy this car... I will throw in $1,000 of my own money!"

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HonestTruth 1 point ago +1 / -0

Ok, finished up the mystery of the sunken buildings and inability for victorian era people to build structures. heh.

First challenge would be, how come there are none of these amazing structures all over north america like in europe? why are all the ones here in step with the timeline projected with our current framework?

Are you going to try to proclaim that cities such as new york are from a time long ago also? What about the rest of the country?

Or is it that the flat earther population never made it to north america to face off with the injuns in all of history?

The dig sites around north america show the natives living here at least 13k years, do we not accept any of that information when we flat earth?

Being that the guy just left that section and went into mistreating women in history, there is no firm explanation of anything just this claim that we couldn't have done it therefore... ? flat earth? this was done in the past by people better than us? Did I click thru something important?

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HonestTruth 2 points ago +2 / -0

lol, I am at least willing to communicate on your fail belief, I am still clicking thru it, don't be such a poor sport.

Surely you do not expect me to require his entire bla bla bla for a given point? I hear his point click thru the section while viewing the evidential points being claimed. It is 6/2 fucking hours, you think I am gonna waste that much time on crazy ass propaganda, you will only see me do that for war stuff :)

Take for example the claim that the buildings are 'sunk' working my way thru that now. It is easy for these type of people to make all kinds of claims about pictures they do not understand, I have a fairly seasoned background and understand why many of these buildings appear to have sunk / be built below and such. Just hanging around in this section till I get the drift of what the claim he is to make of these buildings being sunk.

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HonestTruth 3 points ago +3 / -0

sigh clearly all bullshit, at double speed I made it like 15m in so far and he is still bla bla bla bla, fucking blase.

As for the pictures with no people, this is easily explained yet people seem to have forgotten.

Important images taken at that time were done by authority, anyone caught in the frame would be executed along with their entire families, this was basically an everywhere thing for these types of pictures, which is why you can find them from all over.

I will keep click skipping thru his sales pitch of lies and bullshit for the simple minded cause 6hr of lame edits wtf.

The belief that everything we think we know is false and nothing is true or has value and we don't have the real answers is for idiots.

I would prefer to accept what is thought to be true instead of a constant stream of sales pitch and lies.

by OSHA
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HonestTruth 2 points ago +2 / -0

We get lots of racial unity. ..When we goto war.

by OSHA
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HonestTruth 3 points ago +3 / -0

We have been in a religious war the entire time. The sooner people realize that, perhaps the better off we will be.

There is a tribe and they aim to conquer all other tribes.

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HonestTruth 1 point ago +1 / -0

Well, I won't lie. I did not make it very far in her video. There was no speed up option and as I clicked thru I was not enthralled by her musings.

I am not interested in doing a ton of research, if I cannot access a foundation of evidence/data/thought on it without coming across reams and reams of rambling incoherent thought, then I am not interested. So far, that is precisely the case when trying to locate quickly 'why flat earth matters' It seems this is a piece of wording that is overloaded to the max. I recommend you either give it to me in point form, or link me directly to someone else who will.

At the end of the day I have a variety of questions regarding the belief set.

For example, nothing is cut and dry, so one with this belief is likely to harbor a set of beliefs and reject others. One thing I have noticed is that within the flat earth belief system many end up rejecting a substantial amount of accepted ideas.

So such questions as, where does all the matter come from? why is our flat earth full of various materials? do we have asteroid collisions in this belief? What is this about super close sun and moon, implying we know nothing at all and the sun is a light source held in the sky by our beliefs?

I would be interested to read your thoughts in point form with respect to why the earth is flat in your understanding, why we care and if you can fill in any other blanks if you would be so kind.

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HonestTruth 1 point ago +1 / -0

Starting with your book reference, its like you don't want me to check it out? an amazon link?

Here is a pdf link from some of your brethren: https://flatearthers.org/Zetetic-Astronomy-Earth-Not-a-Globe-1881.pdf

is it the correct book? I will give it a bit of a squeeze.

No my assumptions are not idiotic when it comes to laying down trust to the ideas of the past, while much of the usable science they produced is still viable most of the ideas are not. Any ideas used to subjugate and control get an extra layer of analysis.

So when it comes to anything that was used to educate and enforce belief and control is likely a tool forged in corruption.

I will say it again, I feel no need to prove or disprove a given theory be it round or flat. The goal is to understand available information. There are many reasons why such things are produced and it is mostly to take away time and ability.

My own position is that physically a flat earth does not make any sense. I feel that in order to even accept flat earth you must have something else driving it.

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HonestTruth 1 point ago +1 / -0

Look, there is no need for the whitepaper to be published by a leading institution or the like, so anyone with the information could produce a white paper worth reviewing. So there really is no reason one is not there if the people in the 'field' had an inclination to produce one.

All of your other claims, are merely left to the interpreter you can easily fool yourself by not understanding the inputs or by making assumptions.

To suggest the idea of a flat earth is not thousands of years old is foolish, it is also funny to consider that the first model we came up with to describe shit has any merit.

Based on your inputs so far, I am not clear on why you accept flat earth, nevermind clutch to it dearly and reject all other inputs.

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HonestTruth 2 points ago +2 / -0

I think this is a pretty decent assessment. I would just state that I think their plan is stupid because this is not a ground troop war, this never was, what we see now, is basically Russia trying to help its brother clean up the terrorists in its yard.

When it comes to facing the actual terrorists on the other fronts, it will not be anything like this, just pure missiles.

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HonestTruth 2 points ago +2 / -0

Plasma cosmology does not infer such requirements, of course not. it is a model that defines relationships in space and elsewhere.

This entire flat earth model and all the claims you have made thus far are seated in history thousands of years ago. I am of the mind to throw that entire belief set into the trash there is no evidence there just beliefs.

simple because i can prove that earth doest move and doesn't curve. the sun and moon are small and close, moving in a spiraling circle that reconciles to the seasons and eclipse.

Feel free to provide direct linkage to your evidence and I do not expect to sit thru some video with someone yapping I would like a white paper or experimental data.

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