Now do you see why people get pissed off when you contort yourself into a pretzel defending this shit? When you say things like “well, the reason the punishment isn’t listed for raping a 3 year old is because everyone knows what the punishment is and that it will be carried out”, yet here you have an entire congregation of jews who say “no, actually, there is no punishment listed because there is no punishment to be doled out.”
Same with the verses on Jesus.
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hes explained why he doesn’t post threads. Pretty sure I saw swamp relay to you why that is in another thread a couple weeks ago but I’m not gunna go hunt for it
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his comments are great if you actually read them and try to understand what hes saying, which is admittedly something that isn’t always easy. But most things worth doing aren’t easy.
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“flooding” the comments lol? Eh, I don’t see it. What I do see is joeygerbils5 making dozens of low effort spam posts multiple times per day, which legitimately IS flooding this place and you act like hes trying to save the forum by posting shitty screenshots of decade old 4chan posts lol
Fwoc is the farthest thing from a bot this forum has
Seems like it’s about as disputed as the Rebekah one
Hishām ibn ʿUrwa was the only one to narrate the ḥadīth, 13 and he narrated it when he was in Iraq, a time when he was accused of having a bad memory.
Asmaʾ, the older sister of ʿĀʾisha, was ten years older than ʿĀʾisha. Since Asmaʾ passed away in 73 AH/692 CE at the age of 100, this places ʿĀʾisha at eighteen years old when the marriage was consummated.
Fāṭima was born at the time the Kaʿba was rebuilt, when the Prophet ﷺ was thirty-five years old, and she was five years older than ʿĀʾisha, making Āʾisha around twelve years old when she married the Prophet.
ʿĀʾisha participated in the Battle of ʾUḥud. Ibn ʿUmar narrates that the Prophet did not permit him to participate in Uḥud because he was fourteen, but when he was fifteen the Prophet gave him permission to fight in the battle of the Trench (Khandaq). Thus, ʿĀʾisha must have been at least fifteen at the time of ʾUḥud, meaning she consummated the marriage at thirteen or fourteen years old.
ʿĀʾisha narrated in Bukhārī: “This revelation [in Sūra al-Qamar]: ‘Nay, but the Hour is their appointed time (for their full recompense), and the Hour will be more grievous and most bitter’ 14 was revealed to Muḥammad in Makkah while I was a playful jāriya.”
Dawww, thanks big guy, and likewise.
The thing is though, when you present something I don’t already agree with (e.g. CDK), I’ll follow your links in an attempt to understand. It just feels like when you follow my links, it’s an attempt to “debooonk”/cover the source in so many grains of salt as to make it easily dismissible.
You probably don’t see it quite like that. You probably don’t perceive me as as open-minded as I perceive myself. Idk, just putting that out there.
Can you do Mohammed and Aisha next?
The research itself stands or falls on its own
Oh, you’ve finished watching the videos I’ve linked?
And that's like the doctor who predicts the disease will either get worse, stay the same, or get better.
Or is it like the scientist who says “the evidence pattern indicates there will be earthquakes soon, but if you prepare then you can minimize the senseless loss of life” who then gets silenced/ignored for retarded reasons?
So, from this im getting that
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being a mason is a strike against someone
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unless you like them, in which case God is using their masonry for good
Why doesn’t this apply to Carlson again? Because masons became extra super duper evil at some point after the founding of America? Because you don’t like how his research points towards timescales > 6,000 years? It’s not clear to me any objective difference between carlsons masonry (which is a strike against listening to what he has to say) and the masonry of the masons you do like.
(I would also appreciate, and remind myself, that we both want to work on collegiality as students comparing notes. I suppose my view on cyclic catastrophes has made it hard for me to do that lately.)
Agreed, hence my seeking clarity on the notion that the guys who I get my notes from are evil muslims, and associating that with me (guilt by association much?) while plenty of guys who you get your notes from are “tools of God, in spite of themselves”
No mention of the founding fathers being lying muslims because of their secret oaths - is I think the double standard i was trying to get you to acknowledge
MUh guilt by association! MUh judge people on an individual basis! MUh fREEEEmAsOnS!!! MUh illOgiCaL dOuBLe sTaNdArDs!!
Lol, okay dude, and all the founding fathers were satanic muslims too
Your film link begins inauspiciously by accusing Carlson of lying completely about the filmmaker, Camron Wiltshire, and taking credit for Wiltshire's work.
The video description? I wouldn’t read too much into that - regardless of whatever petty squabble might have developed between those two people (I’ve never heard of Wiltshire before this link, it’s clearly a reupload of a far older video, this just happened to be the first upload i came across, but I could link to another version if that would make you more comfortable). Just because some guy helped Randall edit clips of him speaking and images from his powerpoint into a youtube video doesn’t really give him co- anything credits wrt Carlson’s life work in catastrophism and sacred geometry etc etc. It just means he helped put a video together for him. Not much of a strike there unless you’re primed and waiting for one.
>Second strike, it says Carlson is a 32nd-degree Freemason. Well, there.
Will keep this one open for a little while too.
Hope you find it anywhere near as enlightening as I did
12 Apostles too…
and ultimately into 72 as we've discussed, maybe even to 216 and 2,160
72 years aka one “Great Day”, or one degree of the Precession, 216 aka three degrees, 720 aka 10 degrees, 2160 aka 30 degrees and so on
I really do recommend you check out the full version of Carlson’s talk there, even if you disagree with his conclusions hes done an excellent job cataloguing not just the physical side of catastrophe but also the mytho-symbolic side:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QxxJkkUiRxw&pp=ygUZUmFuZGFsbCBjYXJsc29uIGZ1bGwgdGFsaw%3D%3D
If you skip to 21:30 for example (though i obviously recommend the whole thing) he covers those numbers you list and the rest of the numbers of the pattern
I don’t know if you need anything book length! Why not start with the blurb on the back?
There’s a pretty wide gulf between “extinction” and “civilization destroying” though right? A large enough solar flare would be “civilization destroying” with nowhere near the levels of death thought to have occurred with, e.g., the Toba super-catastrophe (which is believed to have reduced mankind to 10% of its previous levels), approximately 3 “Great Years” ago
I thought Carlson's whole point was that there were 16 events that destroyed all civilization smaller than the million-ton level. Are we saying now that these civilizations weren't destroyed?
His “whole point”, by my understanding, is the concept of the continuity of knowledge through the upheaval event, from the civilization of the past to the civilizations of the future. So while the civilizations of the past are “wiped out”, or perhaps more accurately, “rendered unrecognizable to a large extent” (i.e. the pockets of survivors are spread around the world and “disappear” into the native populations of the world, like the Vikings who made it to North America before 1,000 AD), their knowledge and genetics persist for later rediscovery - “When you reap the harvest of your land, do not reap to the very edges of your field or gather the gleanings of your harvest.”
Do you see some way of deriving more from it than that?
Someone once said:
I propose that the Truth, the Way, and ultimately all Christianity is encapsulated in various isomorphic statements of rejection of nihilism and acceptance of a transcendent greatness harmonizing Self and Other.
I see this lesson enshrined in the stones and their message. This lesson won’t burn up at 451*F, nor will it rot with diluvien inundation. It is as long lasting as we can manage. And its entire purpose is to demonstrate that nothing here lasts forever. Worth pondering by my estimation.
No one’s talking extinction, but harvest
whole books on the Christian meaning of the zodiac.
That’s neat! You should make a post about them! 12 tribes, 12 signs, something’s going on there.
Doesn't seem like Carlson, Chang, Ching, giants, pyramids, Gospel of Thomas are the ones preventing the ELE, fren.
Can the shepherd “prevent” the autumn? Or is he limited to simply doing what he can to “prepare” for the harvest?
Winter is coming.
It's consistent with God to make the pattern 2,157+ years and then round it for simplicity to 2,000 years (and also to 2,160 for arcana).
You’ll never believe this dude! What’s ~26,000 divided by 12? And that’s why one “Great Month” of the “Great Year” is ~2160 years. Ok, now how long would a “Great Season” last? Oh wow crazy 3 “Months” or a little over 6000 years. I wonder what happens when “Great Seasons” change. I wonder what happens when a “Great Year” turns over. Oh, wait, no, I don’t wonder, because I actually watched the videos im commenting on! Lol
If we link the Garden with the beginning of Taurus, the Flood with the end of Taurus, and the Tribulation with the beginning of Aquarius
It’s not just that though - we are clearly on the cusp of a new age - it is clear that 2,000 years ago Jesus ushered in a new piscean age of peace and cooperation - 2,000 years before that, [Noah/Abraham/Moses] ushered in the age of the Ram, the age of sacrifice and war - and what he replaced was the age of the Bull, of mass human sacrifice which apparently held over the preceding 2,000 years (sounds almost Flood-worthy…)
I get that “6,000 years” is a buggaboo of yours, but considering it is neither accepted in the mainstream, nor in the conspiracy alt-stream, it is just frankly inappropriate to shoehorn into this conversation, and use it to totally derail the subject.
If you want to talk about the documentary, that’s great, i look forward to that. If you want to talk about the significance of the Zodiac aka the Precession of the Equinoxes outside of the context of megaliths and the catastrophes they were built to survive and warn us about, I suppose that’s kind of interesting, but for the fourth time now, it’s a subject worthy of its own thread. But what I DONT want to talk about is young earth creationism, and DOUBLY SO from the perspective that it is the “obvious answer and everything else is demon lies” (fuck off with that shit lol)
Specifically, are you saying the pyramids and sphinx were all built during the Wisconsin Ice Age?
Im saying it’s a provable fact that the Sphinx complex, which the pyramids are a part of, was constructed PRIOR TO the last Saharan wet period. This means they are at a minimum 6,000 years old (“but that’s impossible!” He shouts). Im further saying that based on the site’s obvious intent to convey astronomically significant information, a likely candidate for its construction was during an Age of Leo. As you noted in your initial comment, the last Age of Leo lines up just about PERFECTLY with the last catastrophe (before your pet catastrophe that is). Maybe it was built 26,000 years before that, maybe it was built immediately before or after - like I said, a time of great upheaval need not lead to “global extinction” like you imagine. It can also lead to a Golden Age, a Satya Yuga - a “New Heaven and New Earth” in your language.
Hope that helps. I look forward to your on topic response and any spin off threads you might make about spin off topics like YEC and how much you dislike the fact that every society on the planet throughout all of history has recognized the significance of the Zodiac
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It’s odd to hear from a Christian that he sees absolutely no (non-demonic-)significance behind the fact that his people chose the fish as their symbol, 2000 years ago, precisely coincident with the dawn of the age of pisces. Nor that this piscean age overthrew the age of the Ram, a common sacrifice of the previous age of Aries, which itself overthrew the age of the (brass, burning) bull. Aquarius, the water bearer is now the current age. Well, it wouldn’t be the craziest thing to call this the (dawn of the) age of women.
Because you and the sources never jump to THE END IS NEAR…why don’t you…?
https://communities.win/c/TheDonald/p/15JU7rN3xg/this-is-whats-driving-all-the-ac/c
even though the natural corollary is that the dawning of the Age of Aquarius brings extinction and a total civilization wipe.
That’s not quite it though is it - it represents not “guaranteed extinction” but “great upheaval” or even “tribulation”. You know what else was a great upheaval which kicks off a grand adventure or journey? Leaving the Garden. The Flood. The Rapture. All things you’re intimately familiar with.
Really, this deserves its own thread.
how does the pyramid point to this whole cycle of cataclysms… other than to be something that might survive global flood?
Asked and answered, though oddly treated as if that isn’t a direct answer to the question… remember, the idea is that the site itself is built in recognition of the Precession (pointing to Leo in the Age of Leo) - its only “goal” or “purpose” at that point is to survive the next cataclysm.
And you don't know what brought on the cataclysms on this list
Not sure i follow. You can go look up all of these events and see what modern science considers potential causes. For example the Toba Catastrophe it was (likely) a super-volcano eruption. For the Younger Dryas it was (likely) a glacial asteroid impact causing global flooding. These - surficially unconnected - catastrophes turn out to follow a repeating 26,000 year cycle, according to our best (fuzzy) data. That demands further inquiry, so if your statement here is meant to express a kind of “move along, nothing to see here” attitude, I think that’s flat backwards.
Regarding your spitballing, that would require proving the Precession, which is fact, has no effect, which is frankly an insane thing to assume, and furthermore refuted by even a cursory look into the notion of the “Ages” of man. That could be an interesting subject for a spin-off thread. You should make it!
Here is a graphic which overlays these two sets of data:
I think the case is pretty convincing that the Sphinx was constructed during the age of Leo, facing the direction of Leo. I think it’s reasonable to link the Sphinx construction date and the great Pyramid construction date, though to what extent is debatable. Suffice it to say that atleast part of the complex was constructed in alignment with the age of Leo.
(Other than the mismatch in significant digits), Those numbers all seem fine as a jumping off point. It should be noted that “onset of the younger dryas” at 12,900 and “end of Wisconsin ice age” (~11,700 years according to google) would be describing the two boundaries of one cataclysm, not two different ones 1,000 years apart. Which is to say that this should all be approached with the recognition that “fuzziness” in the numbers is inescapable, and thus to let that be the core of any objection is, imo, a disingenuous approach, so hopefully we don’t see that tact.
And one theory on this is that the precession might coincidentally correspond to a Planet Nine orbit that causes meteors at just these cusps for some reason relating to four biaxial Oort-like encounters?
That’s a theory, for sure. I think there are atleast a few others worth considering as well. Namely geomagnetic pole drifts/excursions/reversals, Milankovich (solar forcing) cycles, “cosmic environment” theories (along the lines of the ‘Electric Universe’ theory). Probably others im forgetting or have never come across.
Interesting…I was aware that the use of irregular polygonally shaped stones made the overall structures more earthquake resistant, but never considered your line of thought, that the structure’s overall shape would be ideal for anchoring it against the presence of massive flows of water (which as im sure you know, the Sphinx enclosure shows indisputable evidence of)
Cheers man cool idea
Tucker is pretty good, as far as talking heads go