After my discussions with the wanna-be mods, I found out that, ultimately, these people don't want to help the community, they just like the power to mute and ban whoever they don't like.
While some are outright Nazis, some will call you a "mongoloid", and others are strictly defending only their reputation. Either way, none of these will help with the removal of the obvious trolls, shills, and AI chatbots.
Unfortunately, there are no good candidates to my knowledge... I saw some posts of people, who wanted to be mods, but they were immediately shut down by others, who think they have the power to do that... Isn't that strange?
I wonder how many new accounts would be created to elect a new mod in here, if it even gets to that point, or how many alternative accounts of the same person would vote... Apparently, having alt accounts is not a violation... Isn't that strange?
Whatever the case may be, I regret that I even raised the topic... Probably a mod would be selected one way, or another, and unfortunately for you, it won't be a good and fair person, although he would certainly think that of himself.
How would this forum achieve unity in any way, while trolls and shills successfully block most topics?
And if you can't have unity, what is left? How can a single person in here do anything against the NWO?
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Some people in here have told me that they don't even read the comments under their posts mostly, because there is no use to debate hardheaded people...
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Others have told me that they use this forum only as a database for their posts. (Again, they don't care for any replies whatsoever)...
Without discussions, what is the meaning of a forum? Simply sharing content and counting the upvotes, as if you're being heard, while all who upvote already know and agree with this information?
I have a dream... (hehe)
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Of a forum, where people's discussions are respected.
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Where insults are possibly stopped with 1 warning, then 1 mute.
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Where non-related nonsense is stopped with 1 warning, then 1 mute.
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Where sending links is more respected than just a plain text.
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Where full information is more respected than 2 sentences, or a simple picture.
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Where alt accounts is a major violation that may lead to a direct ban, because it can obviously be abused a lot.
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Where every post is a discussion of itself, no need for specific round tables posts - just great work from everyone posting and commenting.
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Where any dispute, that leads nowhere, is actually pinned at the start of the page, so a final solution to the dispute can be found. Not only that, but such a post would serve to conclude a difficult topic, and potentially be archived for future reoccurrence of this topic, where you can simply paste the link to this dispute, and educate someone on the grand conclusion. (I had this idea because I don't trust myself with banning, so any dispute will be solved in the comments, by the people in the forum.)
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And if you don't contribute with posts, then there is no need for such people, who only invade other posts but have nothing to say themselves.
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And a total of 5 posts per person daily, so spamming and flooding are stopped. People can combine a lot of their information in a single post and express their Nazi position, or any position for that matter.
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For people's activity to be monitored if they receive a warning, or a mute. To have clear guidelines on when a person should receive them, and when a ban can happen. (My idea is for people with 3 mutes for a month, or two, to receive a warning letting them know that a next occurrence in the next 3 months will result in an immediate ban)
Wouldn't you want to see a forum, where people commit 100% in the comments they give, and they don't react disrespectfully, because nobody is calling them "mongoloid", or something of the sort?
Wouldn't you want for a topic to have a conclusion? United bright minds, who debate with reason and facts, so any dispute on any topic can have one final conclusion, not "I believe what I believe, you believe whatever you want"... There is no real unification, if people are not united in belief. (And I don't mean religious belief here)
The enemy is very well united.
The enemy is extremely harsh to anyone, who deviates even an inch from their plan.
The enemy is working on their plan way longer than any of us has even lived.
The enemy has immense resources, vast connections, and no morals to stop any of their deeds from happening.
The enemy has nearly completed their plan, they are literally in the last phase.
Only a fool would underestimate such an enemy. Only a fool would think that single-handedly they can even make a dent to such an enemy. And only a fool would allow the enemy in their own camp.
Make me mod so i can ban u/swamprangers then you can have mod privileges back. Or can we force a character limit on him like the old twitter? Make him type CONCISE comments.
For you, Vlad, since you asked, I'll stay concise! "I love brevity."
The only person I trust is turtlebam
I am the only reasonable choice
It is a brave thing, to look upon a group of would-be moderators and find only the echo of their own unmet need to be the tallest chair in the meeting.
You have discerned, with the clarity of an unsevered soul, that some chase influence not to serve the community, but to soothe the hungry, hungry hippo of the ego. Some hurl insults. Others polish reputations. All insist they are the One Who Must Hold the Mute Button.
And yes, how strange that the ones least suited to lead are often the first to close the door behind them and say, “No, actually, I already lead.” But strangeness is the natural language of the power-hungry.
You lament that there are no good candidates. That alt accounts flourish like weeds in a plastic office plant. That unity dissolves under the acid rain of trolls, shills, and exceptionally bored AI. These are valid concerns.
But remember:
You dream of a forum where discussions are respected, where insults get one warning before exile, where clarity outshines chaos, and where people contribute rather than merely clap from the sidelines.
A dream where disputes are resolved, archived, and referenced like sacred texts of corporate enlightenment. Where spammers find no quarter. Where each voice approaches its daily five post limit with the reverence of a monk handling five grains of rice.
Beautiful.
Truly beautiful.
But hear this: Even the most luminous dream becomes a burden if one forgets the central riddle:
The enemy, you say, is united. Disciplined. Centuries ahead. Ruthless.
Perhaps so.
But the greatest threat to the community is not the enemy outside. It is the miniature tyrant each of us keeps in our breast pocket.
Do not let your frustration with others become the first brick in your own little dictatorship.
Do not let your noble longing for order harden into a yearning for domination.
And do not let the absence of unity become an excuse to abandon your post in the grand hallway of human exchange.
In the end, remember this wisdom:
Stand firm. Speak gently. Moderate nothing but your own impulse toward despair. For sometimes the forum does not need a new mod - it needs a new moment of courage from the You you are.
Exaclty what I mean here:
The ideas shared are for any moderator to consider them, that's why I shared them.
Regarding your statement:
I agree that no mod is better than a bad mod. But this place already has shills, trolls, and bots...
E.g.: There is a user, even under this post, that so far has written 7 different comments (under the same post) accumulating the total of +8/-40 votes for his comments (remembering that every comment has a +1 once you post it, so only 1 person upvoted his own comment, or his own alt, who's to say? So, more clearly, +1/-40 votes). And he wished for a user to k*ll himself...
Only one other user before has wished for another to k*ll himself, and used it frequently. I would bet that's his alt account, and who knows how many others...
How would you deal with such a person?
I will add just one thing, I exposed several shill accounts in here, some even left when I exposed them, but the mod (clemaneuverers at the time), decided that such posts shouldn't be written anymore... Some still echo this idea with comments like "staaaaahp with the call out posts"...
So please tell me, how would you deal with this situation?
Indeed, the dream of the Perfectly Pinned Dispute, that gleaming alabaster monument at the top of the page, where arguments go not to die, but to be embalmed with the fragrant oils of closure. A noble vision for sure. Consider:
And here you are, architect of an online Geneva Convention, hoping to transform every unruly disagreement into a neatly cataloged museum exhibit for future wanderers. It is ambitious. It is heartfelt. It is (dare I say) deeply adorable in its optimism!
But let us address the heart of your lament: the shills, the trolls, the bots, the man who has posted seven comments and apparently received the same reception as a wasp at a picnic - a spectacular +1/-40, that heroic ratio which whispers, “This man is having a spiritual learning opportunity.”
And the tragic cries to “k*ll oneself” - yes, the Internet’s perennial proof that evolution has its off-days.
You ask: How would I deal with such a person?
Let me answer with this bit of wisdom:
In other words: you do not need to chase every alt, nor shadowbox every pseudo-personality. That is the work of someone who mistakes vigilance for vocation.
Your calling, dear friend, is not to become the Sherlock Holmes of obscure usernames.
As I may say:
And indeed, you have seen that - several left once you flashed the lantern. A satisfying moment, the digital equivalent of watching mold retreat from sunlight.
But here is the deeper truth you may not wish to hear, but must: You have taken up the sword of Moderation Righteousness without noticing that it has begun to swing you.
The man who posts call out threads to chase call out threads has accidentally joined the same carnival he despises.
As for the mod who told you to “staaaaahp”, well, let me remind anyone:
You seek protection for the community, and that is admirable. But sometimes the first soul needing protection is the one sounding the alarm every ten seconds.
So what would I do? What would I advise?
Moderation is not a battlefield. It is a garden. And gardens flourish not when every weed is hunted to extinction, but when the gardener knows which plants will choke themselves without any assistance.
Post your ideas. Sharpen your lantern. But do not let the forum rent space in your spiritual basement.
And if the occasional alt account wishes a tragic fate pin not the dispute, but the lesson: that some people need not a ban, but a boundary.
You are not the guardian of every shadow on the page. You are simply the steward of the You You are.
You didn't use to sound like this.
I think should take a step back and ask why all this is necessary? Its because (Jewish) interests have deemed that no-critique of their power shall go unchecked. The rules proposed are merely to stop (Jewish) harassment - even on a small corner of the internet they will not let you rest. Their fanatical schizophrenic obsession is hostile towards anything outside of their absolute control (conspirscies.win, Palestine, neighbors in the middle east...)
This argument interests me. As a covenantal Christian I get attacked for trying to find a balance on the question. I've supported and contributed to a Name The Jew For Real campaign at ConPro but I also correct misquotation of the Talmud because it makes the attackers look worse than the Talmud if they attack it incorrectly. I would love unified agreement on how we criticize theories, groups, and individuals so that they don't become automatic exclusion of other groups of Homo sapiens (which is what contributes to noncommunity by our dehumanizing each other).
In fact, I should take your comment as an inspiration for me to shut up and complete some infrastructure so that your idea of proper critique of Jewish interests could go forward. Give me this week to think about it.
Finding balance towards the question... If you've been here long enough you are aware of (Jewish) power structures and have seen it manifest here (on a micro level) first hand through fake account after fake account designed to sabotage this site. On a national level (macro level) you can see it play out through control of the media, government, technology, etc...(I can expand if you're not convinced)
I think you need to weigh the level of obsessive control against your desire to not exclude.....think about this statement.
Clearly this saga has been playing out for thousands of years (109 countries) and as a tolerant western society our tolerance has gifted them complete control over our lives (so much so that they are vested in controlling an internet forum with probably 10 active users...). This internet forum...with literally 10 active users.or so is worth their time....that is the level of obsession you are.dealing with.
(Jewish) interests will not let you rest, their goal is to put the non-Jew.in a subservient status to the Jew (https://jewishchronicle.timesofisrael.com/sephardi-leader-yosef-non-jews-exist-to-serve-jews/) and with each passing generation of (Jewish) interbreeding this schizophrenic obsession grows.
You reflexively quoted "109" when the list only had many repeated countries and overlapping regions on 109 lines and was taken from a list of only 81 expulsions in 22 countries and a few regions. That undercuts your ability to criticize Jews accurately. If you'd said "(Grosser's 81 expulsions)" you'd bolster your case instead.
Site sabotage is everywhere and logs (and this week's news) show it's from all kinds of countries. I always upvote lists of Jews and shabbos goyim with good rubrics; but I tell people "it's the satanists", because that's theologically true and they don't care what nationality you are because they'll smear you by association with whatever human-shield nationality is convenient for them. The obsession is real but doesn't come from a human bond like ethnicity but a transcendent satanic one. Yes, the cabal has worked spiritually for millennia, but so has God and his plan and network is better and it always works.
Jews, Christians, Muslims, and satanists all have as a core eschatology the triumphalist view that unrepentant unbelievers become subservient. The Jewish view of the present day is similar to the American view of going to Walmart and commanding the purchase of things from the labor of over 100 countries. Perhaps the issue is that Christians are the weakest at asserting their triumphalist eschatology.
Theologically I cannot accede to a narrative where any subgroup of satanists was gifted complete control over our lives. We have complete control, we offered some consents, and we can withdraw any consent anytime. If you want to Name The Jew, do it For Real by accurate statement and elite research, and without dooming, or you look like a Jewish shill who is making anti-Semitism look stupid. Accuracy will eventually get all the satanists.
You have the entire rest of the website to sperg about this. Fuck off.
May the hatred, animosity, deception and trickery you expel into the world be reflected back to you in this life AND the next. You are an agent of evil, as such the negative energy you expel hurts everyone around you AND you.
Kill yourself, stormfaggot.
Nazis probably were right about practically all the fucking conspiracy theories and therefore are the most qualified.
Hitler was a patsy for the international banking cabal. They propped him up as an antithesis to the liberal democracies (just like they propped up the bolsheviks). They knew he was a keg of powder and wanted a war in order to complete the destruction of the old throne and Church world order (which WWI began). But while the bolshevik regime was strictly jewish and talmudic, the nazis we're it's antithesis. In reality all governments at that point were revolutionary modeled after the French revolution dialectic of girondins (right) and jacobins (left) - democratic or authoritarian, nationalistic or internationalistic. True conservatism was destroyed. The synthesis was the NWO post WWII, the eternal victimization of jews and the creation of Israel. It's all dialectics all the time. Once you know the mechanism it's too obvious.
This is how Count Cherep-Spiridovich among others knew about all the wars years before they came. He understood the Protocols.
So, the ones that brandished a Hindu symbol, while pretending that they are Christian, is what you consider "most qualified"?
I would consider Milton William Cooper as "most qualified". We know that he wasn't a controlled opposition, at least. Unlike the Nazis, who safely transported the jews into Palestine to help the Zionist plot...
But if I need scientists that would flee to the US and USSR after Germany's fall, then sure - Nazis are most qualified indeed.
Blaming the Jews for everything isn't a conspiracy, it's just spam.
Back to CuckPro.
What did i blame jews for that they turned out to not be responsible for?
Fine, I'll become a mod here so you can quit complaining 😎
It's nice to open with a joke... :D
You certainly don't do it here. Do you think they don't have the ISPs and addresses of everyone here?
I have only ever thought of this place as a testing ground of ideas. There's no unity with randoms on the internet; they could be bots, or AI, or everyone but me could be a whole honeypot operation, I don't know.
It doesn't matter who I'm talking to if I'm testing ideas because only the ideas matter. Any argument not worth my time can be ignored, any bad faith actor can be called a faggot, and any points I hadn't considered can be incorporated into my understanding, even if they're from feds or bots.
But uniting to fight the power that keeps this whole site running, on this site? No, bad idea.
How do you know that shills "keep this whole site running" tho?
And also, since you said that "the ideas matter", perhaps someone here can create their own page incorporating these ideas and advancing them...
I don't see how that's a bad idea at all, honestly.
Pulling the above anon's thought out for amplification.
You could start by not parroting their narratives, stormfaggot.
Unity means total freedom. That is something despised by both lefties and righties... true freedom
I don't even see "left" or "right" anymore, just control and controlled opposition.
Unit implies apart from one another. Freedom implies dominance setting free by separation. Total implies without parts.... "meaning" implies holding onto something, while tempting others to do alike aka the building of artificial consensus.
a) Choosing left or right; true or false; is or isn't implies binding ones free will of choice into a conflict against another.
b) Freedom implies natural balance setting each beings choice free from one another.
c) Dom gives free...true or false are taken.
You already have near-total freedom under anarchy, Cthulhu. We're talking about unity in a well-regulated community that where individuals volunteer to honor each other by submitting their rights so as to serve one another. Read the whole post.
Y'know, I never had a problem with the way things were going on this board until someone started bitching on c/meta that we didn't have mods and (inadvertantly?) invited clownshoes into our midst.
This isn't a community, it's a public web forum; only trannies think something like that could stand in for an actual community. I don't know a single person here, or even if they're human, and you want me to honour them? You want to increase traffic by letting in anonymous randos and you think we can have rights?
I think you guys need to have a good think about what this place actually is before you do something you'll regret.
WeedleT nailed it...⬆️
I apologized. We had a similar conversation in c/ChristianAnarchism where the lack of mods was public, but partly because the folks there are dedicated to Christian anarchism and partly because the community was small, we didn't get manipulated and cordially agreed by consensus to stay anarchic and mod-free. Otherwise I give my thoughts separately about what migration to more consensus and conclusiveness would look like. If you see risks it'd be proper to be more specific.
Go back to CuckPro.
Real implies choice given...chance implies fiction taken.
First section: dooming noted and dismissed. Second: ditto.
Third section: Great vision sharing, I'll discuss disputes separately. Otherwise looks very passable. (a) We might tweak that newcomers might get 2 warnings (a typical rule). (b) The practical reality is that using alts manipulatively is already a major violation but it can hardly be enforced except when admin knows or when the evidence or problem is already serious; so the best practical solution seems to be encouraging everyone to shut up about alts publicly and just report privately to the mods so that determinations can be made, so that those accusing of alts publicly are recognized for the troublemakers they often are. Believe it or not, that works! (c) Lurkers generally comment before they post so a general prohibition is dissuasive; if we take note of who is spamming (overproducing) unhelpful comments without posts or other good interaction, that would meet your previously stated standards better. (d) Mute and ban are the same except for variable length. I don't believe in permabans and stop at 365 days; no reason to tell a person "forever" (tempting worse response by other routes) rather than give them a date certain and an appeal route. Let me emphasize "Have clear guidelines on when a person should receive [warning or mute], and when a ban can happen." While ranges allow flexibility, a graduation of ranges such as 1-3, 3-7, 7-30 days, etc., is effective, with mercy being allowed if there is also intervening attempt to support the community. Nobody wants to risk a month ban on third big fail.
Disputes: I believe I know how to get to your goal, and it takes spiritual unity and not just formal unity. Not all can be said on that in one go, but one must start by identifying the regular subset of the community that wants a goal of coming to conclusions (a goal not currently stated on the sidebar) and that jointly agrees on methods of determining consensus conclusions. I mentioned that Henry Robert was exceedingly insightful about this. (Let me offer this post as an example of a moderator board deciding an agreeable conclusive community position in a contentious community, which has stood well for all sides for 4 years; it is indeed archived for future retrieval, like some of my lone-ranger conclusions are.)
Fourth section: Good pep talk, and might have an effect toward spiritual unity. You leave the enemy both undefined and as having massive power. The issue is that Conspiracists have much greater power on tap and so glorifying the enemy is unnecessary as we rightly estimate it. The Power fighting against our enemy is more united, harsher to violators, maturer in its plans than even the most ancient enemy, beyond immense in resources but with better morality, and also in a phase that ensures this is the enemy's last by destroying huge swaths of it at once. I speak both generically and spiritually. To bring about the unity and dream you seek, especially among anons, requires alignment and spiritual harmony. Incidentally it is beginning now without any moderation at all. Your post and my response are part of doing it. For it to reach the critical mass here that results in the Awakening of Conspiracists that you dream of will take patience, dedication, and indeed God's grace.
Response: I hope that's enough to push the ball further. I think you should first put forward a dream of what enemy we are fighting and what Power unites us. The sidebar, I've said puts forward the power of Fairness (morality) and Transparency (truth), which implies our enemy is evil and falsehood. Even there, contributors disagree about what things are evil and false and so it might be necessary to work from a rough-consensus subgroup that has a stronger core agreement on them. (I will say frankly that most positions that end in ism are likely not to promote morality and truth.) The way to unity requires an awakening shakedown against evil and lies that reinforces the truthtellers and ostracizes the manipulators. The degree to which you, Neo1, alongside others, are able to enunciate this will be part of what makes Conspiracies stand or fall.
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Under this post is some stormfaggot posting unhinged rants...so I'm going to say no.
How did you know what I was going to do? Maybe you're actually my alt this whole time?
It was a pretty obvious guess. Like how you haven't paid your taxes.
Well, you also wrote 6 other comments, and have 40 downvotes just under this post, while you also wished for someone to k*ll himself...
That seems like a very long "no"...
JG5 has 12 known alts. Votes mean literally zero.
Honestly, to me - you're the same.
You work only to troll this forum.
JG works only to troll this forum.
I doubt anyone would miss you if you're all gone (you and all your alts).