Yoga was made as a bunch of poses done in service to false gods. Whether you believe they are bad or not, you are still practicing something dangerous to yourself, and weird. Yoga = YOKE-a. Don't let demonic "yokes" get put on your back!
"but muh excerises!!" Don't be lazy. Invent new and useful positions that have NO occult/pagan meaning. Try different excersises. Eat right.
Does anyone wish to elaborate? Or prove me wrong on any of my statements?
That's true.
Yoga is a hindu religious practice that is promoted in the West as part of the NWO agenda of subverting Christian based society and installing a new age religion, amenable to the future world government.
Eastern religions were selected for the task because they are antithetical to Christianity. They are pantheistic and monistic ("everything is God"/"we're all One") where the individual person is dissolved into multiplicity (hence why India is a shithole country where human life was never of any value). Personhood (ego) itself is viewed as problematic and something to be transcended by way of eliminating all borders and distinctions between you and the rest of people or nature (seem familiar? yep, it's the skittles DEI doctrine, cultural pluralism and open borders).
They also posit that reality is an illusion (basically metaverse), that we need to escape from. People who hold such believes are primed to enter a completely virtual world because they view life itself as virtual and not real.
There's obviously a spiritual element to all this being demonic worship, witchcraft, spiritual delusion and idolatry.
The globalist elites like the Huxley's, Jung, Campbell, Salk, Atlee, Kostler, H.G. Wells have written many books on the topic so we don't have to speculate and guess what it's about.
If reality is an illusion, so is the external world, your senses, science and knowledge itself. You just refuted yourself.
Just wow. You really wrote that in one single breath and saw no problem in it. How are people like you even functioning?
See people, this is the level of confusion and doublethink the establishment wants to put people in. This is scary MK-Ultra stuff. Complete degradation of the mind and of reason. Name definitely checks out. How many DMT trips have you been on, dude?
He has swallowed Democrat/Leftist/Woke thinking whole, apparently. He went full bluepill!
I love gnosticism.
How do you know this?
How do you know it's not just another layer of the illusion?
So it's entirely subjective. But how can you be sure your experience is truthful and not a delusion (which is inevitable if everything, including the self, is illusory)? Can you be deceived or be mistaken as a human being?
The truth is God Himself in the person of the Logos though. It's not some abstraction or a property of the mind.
It's my understanding that when you do it, you're making your body into an idol of one of the 1000s of "gods" in the Hindu religion. The whole warrior sequence is a reenactment from when one of the gods killed another one.
I borrowed a book about it from the 70s a long time ago and it detailed how it was a lifestyle intertwined with their spiritual beliefs. It wasn't about exercise or stress relief and the best yogis were old men who were basically mystics, not athletes. I just glossed over that at the time because I enjoyed the exercise and probably every other aspiring teacher did too. Then it exploded in the US and yoga studios popped up everywhere. I only learned about yoking oneself to a false god recently from a Dolores (something?) video, she was a "Christian Scientist" who made a fortune making angel tarot cards and books but was saved and now renounces the occult. Also note if you go to a studio you never see a Christian cross but instead various mantras, om symbol, and usually a Kali statue. It's a religion, not an exercise.
Supposedly pilates is a similar exercise and the inventor was a French dance teacher but I've never tried it. Calisthenics is basically the same form of exercise and then you can just stretch afterwards.
Just do calisthenics. The only useful part of yoga sheeit is the European stretching and fitness exercises that were added later to Yoga to make it a fitness thing.
If you're a born again believer, you don't have to worry about demonic possession from stepping into the wrong exercise class.
Believers should not be wasting energy being anxious that they may have done the wrong body movement, as if it has magical power over them.
If the exercise clas has a pagan shrine in the corner, maybe you, as a believer, should find another way to stay fit.
The biggest issue are the pagan people you might be around. But I can tell you as someone who did the exercises to help quit smoking, they do not put you under any kind of demonic oppression.
It's just exercise that's good for mobility and calm.
This is the most sure way to get spiritually deluded (prelest). One of Christ's apostles got demonically possessed but somehow you are in the clear? Makes total sense.
We have to fight sin and the demons until our very dying breath because they will attack you the moment your guard is down. Even saints had to fend demons off and you think you're above them?
Read Screwtape letters by C.S. Lewis.
Through divine revelation which was preserved throughout history by His Church.
Word concept fallacy. Yes, Christ translates to "anointed one". The prophesized Messiah of the OT named Christ is a particular person. Here's what you did: "Cyrus is king but Christ is also king - they must be the same thing". In typical gnostic fashion you collapsed the contextual meaning of the word which led you to wrong interpretation.
This is why you need a tradition of interpretation, because your mind can made up whatever it feels like when you read the Bible by your own in your closet, thinking you've acquired special gnosis through spiritual pathways. This leaves you confused and being overtly skeptical of everything that supposedly came from outside sources (exoteric), ignoring the glaring absurdity of your inner enlightened epiphany (esoteric) which is only backed up by your feeble deluded mind (which you believe to be an illusion btw, so there's no "you" in the equation).
Of course, your "epiphany" didn't really come from within you but you've red this gnostic new age garbage elsewhere and made up some idiosyncratic belief system that borrows from many sources which you happened to like - it's a philosophical pick-and-choose all-you-can-eat buffet. This is exactly what you do with the Christian tradition. You pick narratives and ideas that appeals to you and discard the rest. But the Christian worldview is holistic and can't be subjected to reductionism and piecemealing. While gnosticism and esotericism is ancient, this new age form of gnosticism is a very modern, individualistic and consumerist approach to worldviews. This is what makes it so appealing to the fragmented, uprooted, ahistorical and confused individual consumer in todays society, who is desperately craves truth and meaning in this clown world.
The result is a fragmented and incoherent mess that only makes sense to you and is not verifiable and proven in any way - why would anyone care for your individually-tailored system when anyone can do the same and get their own tailored system that is similar, yet different and made to match the tastes and preferences of the individual consumer? You reject objective universal truth in the person of Christ who is God. Great, so why should I care about "your truth" at all when I can have "my truth"?
Hope you read this with an open and critical mind and think about it. You said there are many possible perspectives right? Try this one.
Every one of those claims is justified within the system and is dependent on it. They don't exist in a vacuum - all facts and data is interpreted through a paradigm (Thomas Kuhn). I don't have to prove separate claims if I can prove the truthfulness of the worldview itself. And I can do it through the transcendental argument for the existence of God (TAG).
Again, how do you know that? Was that information given to you during your NDE? If so, how do you know you weren't told a lie by the entity that told you that?
And you believe your notion of what/who God is is not man made? Tell me this and be honest: did you come up with your belief system all by yourself in a vacuum through your NDE or did you read a bunch of man made texts and pick and choose different ideas and opinions about God?
But why is communicating that a problem? Aren't we all just projections of the mind of God? There shouldn't be meaningful distinctions then because "me" and "you" is just an illusion, right? Whatever you know and understand also applies to me. Why do you insist on talking as if you are not me and I am not you? You're playing into the illusion. Our whole argument is basically God arguing with himself, isn't that true in your worldview?
Was Christ's apostle already born again? The Holy Spirit was given to us after Christ's death and resurrection.
C.S. Lewis is considered by many born again believers to be a heretic. I think that's dangerous to take guidance from him.
My point is, Christian liberty extends as far as being able to do some sanitized physical exercises. Give God more credit. No, it does not mean we have liberty to "live like the world" and be worldly and wicked. I would never agree to that (despite what people claim Protestants believe).
The Holy Spirit was sent to the Apostles at Pentecost (tongues of fire), which is when the Church was established (the 12 Apostles became the new Israel which was previously the 12 tribes). The Holy Spirit, while not limited to it, indwells the Church which is the Body of Christ, where the fullness of grace is to be found in the sacraments.
"Born again" is an ahistorical heretical movement that originates from evangelical protestantism. While I agree Lewis was not Orthodox and favored branch theory, I don't think you're in a position to call him a heretic. He had valuable insights that every Christian can find useful and I believe his heart was in the right place.
No sorry, being "born again" are the direct words of Jesus Christ when telling Nicodemus how to enter the Kingdom of Heaven. Moreover this transformation via the Holy Spirit is documented throughout the Book of Acts.
It's just pulled directly from scripture, and if scripture conflicts with man-made tradition, stick with scripture.
Three question:
Where did Scripture come from historically and who decided what the Biblical cannon was?
Does Scripture interpret itself, or is there a tradition of correct interpretation that is passed throughout history?
What happens when there are multiple possible interpretations of Scripture? How is the correct one determined?
How many fingers are on your hand? What if someone looks at your hand and claims you have 6 fingers? Are you capable of determining you have 5 fingers or did God not give us that much discernment?
That's what all your questions boil down to.
Some messages in scripture are clear and not open to any major revision or honest misinterpretation.
So basically, the text is self evident and needs no interpretation. How come there are thousands of different interpretations of the same text and how do you know yours is the correct interpretation? Because John Wesley said so 17 centuries later? Do you realize that the early Christians weren't "born again", were organized in synodal structured Church, had divine liturgy, apostolic succession and sacraments, including baptism? All this before the Bible you appeal to was compiled. This is all in Acts and Epistles.
Unintentional sins exist, yknow.
I like how calm and flexible it makes me, in combination with weight lifting and calisthenics.
But it's clearly not worth it, and there are excellent substitutes.
Would you rather burn coal for power like the Chinese do, or like the Americans do?
What’s wrong with being ‘pagan’?
It is a false belief set. That's what.
Pagan isn’t “belief set”, it’s a collective noun to refer to non-Abrahamists
Non Abrahamists have belief sets too, do they not?
Which worldview is the true one?
They do. And they all have collective nouns to refer to people who don’t share their own beliefs. For Christian’s, they are called ‘Pagans’ but Pagan isn’t a thing in and of itself - it’s just a term that denotes non-Christian.
So referring to ‘pagans’ as having a false belief set is erroneous, since it incorporates a multitude of unrelated, unconnected belief sets as well as those with no belief set whatsoever.
It is a valueless term outside of the Christian cult
So how am I aupposed to trust that claim, since it's lbviously am illusion too? What a dumb idea.
Then science is an illusion, and not trustworthy.
No.
What in the irrational extrapolation?
If that's so, thanks for proving that the logically impossible should not be believed. Believing
Then the videos are an illusion and therefore untrustworthy and wrong. Thanks for debunking yourself.
Like yours?
With unGodly worldviews.
Also see: John 8:34
So they're similar then.
Not that kind of guy. Mabye you believe things just because an atheist said so.
And the Biblical God (and belief in Him) existed before that.
Atheist arguments: https://i.imgflip.com/a4bip1.jpg, https://i.imgflip.com/a7ncx4.jpg, "Christians believe flat earth bahaha", "muh control mechanism", https://media.scored.co/scale/BV4ppfsV4nl4JIfR.jpeg "Internal moralz! (see https://media.scored.co/scale/XpP81JgRPnGVGIFZ.jpeg)", https://media.scored.co/scale/9IGZRCLSO9oP84oW.jpeg, https://media.scored.co/scale/I6pz7r36AGsUBBh6.jpeg, https://media.scored.co/scale/RTgV1jOA0ppnqNOr.jpeg, https://media.scored.co/scale/mOkIA1pa4aqrfjU7.jpeg, https://media.scored.co/scale/Ab6ycuXiXAcU4XCx.jpeg
AND MORE!!
Which is why Saved, Consistent, Biblical Christians are better.
Verse?
Just because you touch your toes doesn't make it demonic.
The body was made to move in certain ways
People came after and associated movements to their gods. The body was made first and evil came afterwards.
Yoga can be done at home that has nothing to do with gods . It's just a series of different flexibility and mobility exercises.
Paul said food given to a God means nothing but if it offends your brother don't eat it in front of them.
Food isn't sin but gluttony is. Sleep isn't sin but oversleeping is.
Anything is innocent in itself but it's what a person does with it that makes it evil.
Yoga/yeug - "to join"...it's joining in union which yokes each ones free will of choice.
Joining in union mixes differences together, which prevents each unit from expressing oneself. Nature sets each different being apart from one another to allow free expression of choice.
Both nihilism (no) and taking measurements (meaning) occult ones perception...if held onto.
Holding onto proof yokes ones free will of choice into a conflict of reason (right vs wrong). It doesn't matter what the proof is or from which side one holds onto it...only ones consent to the proof represents the self inflicted yoke upon ones free will of choice.
Each beings position implies service to all nature...joining (yoga) others by free will of choice implies bound servitude aka slavery.
Aka pagan/pag - "to fasten"...ones choice to hold onto any suggestion fastens ones demise within perceivable.
a) Wish implies want aka will...which one needs to resist.
b) Elaborate aka God (el) labor (laborare)...being implies laborer within Gods work. Seeking elaboration from one another contradicts the first amendment, while making ones choice a slave laborer to a chosen ones suggestion.