There have been a some 30-40 anti-popes (invalidly elected, or some such) popes in the 2,000 year history of the Church. It's interesting that this is happening now, not in the 1500s I suppose.
Well, you know what gets me is the "Prophecy of the Popes". I mean, (pardon my language) holy shit, is that thing right and is Francis really going to be the last one?
My mind isn't easily blown, but if that comes to pass, yeah, that would do it!
The real 3rd secret of Fatima was never revealed. The last pope? Likely not, but the 3rd secret has something to do with "the call is coming from inside the house" so to speak.
That's irrelevant if there's an imposter, favoring the NWO over his congregation. COVID was an example of this and a host of other issues. Including same sex marriage.
This Pope has been conspiratorial. The last pope, before the church has changed its religion entirely.
Who knows. I doubt this topic will change anything.
Christians identified the Pope as the seat of anti-Christ over 500 years ago. This isn't a new thing. The scriptural basis for a Pope is a complete misreading of the text. And nothing in the new testament shows any of the apostles looking to Peter as Pope.
It was actually predicted in the book of Daniel. The “incorporation” of the pope in the 500s AD was the kingdom “different from the others” that was the feet of the statue in the dream Daniel interpreted. Through archeology and theology, the timing was correct
IMPLICA'TION, noun (Latin implicatio) - "the act of infolding or involving"...perceivable infolds into perception...inception towards death infolds into life...if whole; then partials within.
symbolism
Symbolism implies suggested by others; while tempting one to ignore perceivable symmetry.
metaphor
Metaphor (transferred resemblance) implies transferred in-between differences. One has to first ignore perceivable differences to be able to transfer resemblance through suggested "likeness".
riddle
Riddle (to separate) is being suggested as something to solve (dissolve), which tempts one to ignore that only within solution (inception towards death) can there be separation (life).
allusion
ALLU'DE, verb (Latin alludo) - "to refer to something not directly mentioned; to hint at by remote suggestions"...perceivable directs perception; suggestion distracts one from that.
No, get it more specific to get it right. New Protestant theology, after 1500 years of everybody thinking that such an idea was silly, even the Orthodox, identified that the Vatican is the anti-Christ in order to validate their rebellion.
The Chair of St. Peter has been vacant since the death of Pope Pius XII in 1958. "Popes" John XXIII, Paul VI, John Paul I, John Paul II, Benedict XVI and Francis are all modernist heretics who promulgate and impose the false religion invented at the Second Vatican Council, known as the Novus Ordo Religion, rather than the true Catholic Faith. Vigano's criticisms of Francis are also applicable to Francis's Novus Ordo above-named predecessors. So, while Vigano is on to something here, he still doesn't grasp the full picture. The ENTIRE Novus Ordo Religion needs to be ripped out from the root. The root is the Second Vatican Council and the formal adoption of modernist heresies that it brought about.
There never was a Chair of St. Peter. Peter was never acknowledged as a Pope by any of the Apostles. Rome invented this to make one of theirs a new kind of Caeser.
John and Peter rush to the empty tomb, and John the beloved apostle, lets Peter go in first even though he was the faster runner and got there first. Why?
What one individual did the resurrected Jesus tell to "feed his sheep" when the apostles met him on the shore with his breakfast of fish? He didn't say it to the group mind you.
Who settled the matter in Acts about circumcision and dietary laws?
Hmmm...
Rejecting the authority of the Pope because of where the Catholic Church has gone since 33AD is different than being ignorant as can be about who was the acknowledged leader of the apostles after Jesus ascended.
Well, there's plenty wrong with the Catholic Church. I get why people disparage it, it deserve much scorn.
But the idea that everyone had it wrong for 1500 years till Luthor or Calvin came along, well, that's just Protestants protesting. It's what they were founded on, protesting the Catholic Church. It's part of who and what they are, and if you take that away from them, what are they then?
No that is not strong evidence you're mentioning. Strong evidence would be Christian or non-Christian contemporary sources discussing the Church and who leads it. Early non-Christian sources just mentioned the religion was centered around Jesus Christ. Not Peter.
Shows Jesus with snake's head. Auditorium designed to resemble a serpent.
Catholicism is a corrupt organization. I have argued that people here should stop affiliating with it.
To affiliate as a Catholic with intent on reforming the institution is like me identifying as a Republican with the intent of reforming the Republican institution which in all reality I am not going to be able to do nor am I able to erase the Republican party's horrid past. Why tie an anchor to your leg and go down with a corrupt organization?
I have no representation. Democracy is a big fucking lie. If you get to vote between jew shill #1 or Jew shill #2 then you are just choosing your plantation slave master.
Things are getting weird. The pressure just keeps on building.
When I was a child, if someone had told me something like this would happen in my lifetime, I would have laughed right in their face.
There have been a some 30-40 anti-popes (invalidly elected, or some such) popes in the 2,000 year history of the Church. It's interesting that this is happening now, not in the 1500s I suppose.
Well, you know what gets me is the "Prophecy of the Popes". I mean, (pardon my language) holy shit, is that thing right and is Francis really going to be the last one?
My mind isn't easily blown, but if that comes to pass, yeah, that would do it!
The real 3rd secret of Fatima was never revealed. The last pope? Likely not, but the 3rd secret has something to do with "the call is coming from inside the house" so to speak.
We are not supposed to worship material things --- pope surrounded by materialistic shit.
That's irrelevant if there's an imposter, favoring the NWO over his congregation. COVID was an example of this and a host of other issues. Including same sex marriage.
This Pope has been conspiratorial. The last pope, before the church has changed its religion entirely.
Who knows. I doubt this topic will change anything.
Christians identified the Pope as the seat of anti-Christ over 500 years ago. This isn't a new thing. The scriptural basis for a Pope is a complete misreading of the text. And nothing in the new testament shows any of the apostles looking to Peter as Pope.
It was actually predicted in the book of Daniel. The “incorporation” of the pope in the 500s AD was the kingdom “different from the others” that was the feet of the statue in the dream Daniel interpreted. Through archeology and theology, the timing was correct
Dream interpretation can be very subjective. Much of it is symbolism, metaphor, riddle, allusion, implication, perception.
IMPLICA'TION, noun (Latin implicatio) - "the act of infolding or involving"...perceivable infolds into perception...inception towards death infolds into life...if whole; then partials within.
Symbolism implies suggested by others; while tempting one to ignore perceivable symmetry.
Metaphor (transferred resemblance) implies transferred in-between differences. One has to first ignore perceivable differences to be able to transfer resemblance through suggested "likeness".
Riddle (to separate) is being suggested as something to solve (dissolve), which tempts one to ignore that only within solution (inception towards death) can there be separation (life).
ALLU'DE, verb (Latin alludo) - "to refer to something not directly mentioned; to hint at by remote suggestions"...perceivable directs perception; suggestion distracts one from that.
No, get it more specific to get it right. New Protestant theology, after 1500 years of everybody thinking that such an idea was silly, even the Orthodox, identified that the Vatican is the anti-Christ in order to validate their rebellion.
The Chair of St. Peter has been vacant since the death of Pope Pius XII in 1958. "Popes" John XXIII, Paul VI, John Paul I, John Paul II, Benedict XVI and Francis are all modernist heretics who promulgate and impose the false religion invented at the Second Vatican Council, known as the Novus Ordo Religion, rather than the true Catholic Faith. Vigano's criticisms of Francis are also applicable to Francis's Novus Ordo above-named predecessors. So, while Vigano is on to something here, he still doesn't grasp the full picture. The ENTIRE Novus Ordo Religion needs to be ripped out from the root. The root is the Second Vatican Council and the formal adoption of modernist heresies that it brought about.
There never was a Chair of St. Peter. Peter was never acknowledged as a Pope by any of the Apostles. Rome invented this to make one of theirs a new kind of Caeser.
Thank you!!! This is such a wildly simple argument that it makes most Catholics heads explode.
Just ask why there needs to be a pope in the first place, and then watch the mental gymnastics take place
John and Peter rush to the empty tomb, and John the beloved apostle, lets Peter go in first even though he was the faster runner and got there first. Why?
What one individual did the resurrected Jesus tell to "feed his sheep" when the apostles met him on the shore with his breakfast of fish? He didn't say it to the group mind you.
Who settled the matter in Acts about circumcision and dietary laws?
Hmmm...
Rejecting the authority of the Pope because of where the Catholic Church has gone since 33AD is different than being ignorant as can be about who was the acknowledged leader of the apostles after Jesus ascended.
Papists gunna pap.
Well, there's plenty wrong with the Catholic Church. I get why people disparage it, it deserve much scorn.
But the idea that everyone had it wrong for 1500 years till Luthor or Calvin came along, well, that's just Protestants protesting. It's what they were founded on, protesting the Catholic Church. It's part of who and what they are, and if you take that away from them, what are they then?
Everyone? Many people sure, but not everyone.
Peter was the leader of the apostles, hands down, the Biblical evidence is so strong you refuse to debate it and instead engage in ad hominins.
After Peter, I get it, lots of people think they are the legitimate successor. Think on why there are 40,000 plus denominations in the US alone.
No that is not strong evidence you're mentioning. Strong evidence would be Christian or non-Christian contemporary sources discussing the Church and who leads it. Early non-Christian sources just mentioned the religion was centered around Jesus Christ. Not Peter.
One pedo is attacking another pedo.
Why should I care?
This guy, Vigano, publicly exposed the biggest pedo of them all, ex-Cardinal McCarrick, years before the press broke the gay molestation scandals.
Far more sexual child abuse and molestation occurs on government property, namely in government schools.
And that makes Catholic child abuse ok or less of an issue? Should I ignore it until it's fixed in other places?
No, it doesn't make it okay, but it makes you wonder why your big guns are aimed where they are.
Because this thread is about the Catholic Church.
So then why make the initial comment at all, especially when Vigano is the exact opposite of what you said he was?
Give a little introspection a chance.
Because he's a Catholic Archbishop which makes him a part of the leadership of the pedo church.
They are all either pedos or enablers of pedos. The whole rotten lot.
Not much introspection there. You tried, sorta. Bravo on that at least.
The Paul VI Audience Hall is satanic.
Shows Jesus with snake's head. Auditorium designed to resemble a serpent.
Catholicism is a corrupt organization. I have argued that people here should stop affiliating with it.
To affiliate as a Catholic with intent on reforming the institution is like me identifying as a Republican with the intent of reforming the Republican institution which in all reality I am not going to be able to do nor am I able to erase the Republican party's horrid past. Why tie an anchor to your leg and go down with a corrupt organization?
Well, then, what political party DO you identify with, in your home country?
I have no representation. Democracy is a big fucking lie. If you get to vote between jew shill #1 or Jew shill #2 then you are just choosing your plantation slave master.
You should buy and watch the movie Jones Plantation to understand. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0OTg3aZc-Y
Sure, no political party captures anyone's ideological beliefs, unless you're running the party yourself and refuse to compromise.
But you understand what I'm saying here.