Russia is trying to free the Donbas and it regularly arrests people who post homosexual propaganda so it is helping society far more than your average person is.
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Because "media says so."
In general , people "hate" "the others", because:
It's the simplest and oldest trick in the book.
When the center cannot hold and the dissonance has been sown in the country, then the solution in order not to fall apart internally is to find an external enemy.
It doesn't require reason (cause nor intellect), just emotion.
If you think Russia hate is high now, wait till the China hate really ramps up. It's only warming up.
And no, I'm no Putin administration lover nor am I deluded that Russia is fighting off NWO/WEF/globalists.
Russian top elite are equally corrupt scumbags paying lip service, their just different flavor.
Russian authorities do that not because they are good guys and not because they think that it is a right thing, but because they will totally lose any credibility among citizens if they will, say, began to push or even ignore gay propaganda.
IDK if I could find a good analogy, and I'm not aware about current level of coprophagy acceptance among average Americans, but imagine if current US authorities began to push literal coprophagy. POTUS eating shit before cameras, mandating people to eat their shit to have access to basic things, MSM articles that coprophagy is a new normal and so on.
You can't declare that US authorities do the right thing or are good guys just because they are not literal coprophages.
The main problem, that those who oppose Russia have, is that they base all their opposing exclusively on the things of that kind - not accepting something disguisting.
Russia have a lot of problems that could be successfully used as real base for opposing and anti-Russian propaganda, but due to complete ignorance and illiteracy those who try to oppose Russia just don't have any clue about them, focusing only on unacceptance of things they was forced to accept in their countries.
One of such stupidest narratives is "lack of freedom", f.e. Somehow that people think that "freedom" they was told they have, absolutely have to be something vauable for Russians. But we don't need "freedom" to uselessly shout "Fuck Joe Biden / Vladimir Putin!" at stadiums. That is not freedom we want/need/interested in. We are much more interested, f.e. in freedom to ignore laws any Biden/Putin/whoever could potentially sign. But I never heard anything about that very important freedom from the loud mouths of those who oppose Russia.
I also never heard anything about f.e. absence of criminal prosecution for elected politicians who gave false promises before elections, elected on the pase of that lies and then didn't bother to fulfill them as promised. That's the real problem here and that is why Russia could be well-reasonably declared bad.
There are tons of such things, but that is not things propagandists want to know abiut Russia. And highly probably they really don't want their western audience become aware that such problems could exist at all or even that they could be accounted as problems.
Everything that is used in anti-Russian propaganda have little to do with Russia, really. It is a kind of attempt to strengthen the virtues Western society push on their citizens in that citizens themselves. "Look, Russia bad because it does behave in the way we pushed on you as right, so if you do not support that irrelevant bullshit than you as bad as Russia".
Propaganda is interesting thing, really, and most of it have its own population as a target. Same with Western propaganda against Russia. It is never intended to convince Russians in something, it is a way to convince Western audience that what is declared virtues on the West are real virtues.
Some Westerners who tired from Western propaganda try to oppose it just by turning the tide by 180 degrees. But that's a wrong way too. Look, imagine that Western propaganda is like a parallel to Russian reality, It never crosses it and have nothing to do with it. So even if you found some virtues in a Russian way, turning 180 to Western propaganda gives you absolutely nothing. Parallels does not cross, whatever way you travel along them. If the way is wrong, turning back solves nothing. You have to make a 90 degrees turn to get out of that wrong way.
Think for yourself, do not allow propaganda hold you on the wrong path, whatever direction you choose on that path.
TL;DR: If you tired from anti-Russian propaganda, praising Russia on the things that was used in that propaganda is the wrong way to go. You still on the same path they created for you.
Russians are not the good guys just because Ukraine = Bad... Russian people are nice, but the regime they live in... Cops bow down to their mafia... Usually, if you see a very expensive car, the person is not to be touched, or is more than your life.
Putin is ex-KGB. He grew up with jews. KGB was created totally jewish. And if you know anything about secret services - there's never an ex-agent. There is an agent or a dead agent.
Putin is good into deflecting the blame on someone else, not that other countries don't deserve it. But some of you refuse to believe that this world is controlled by the upper class. They are together and play a game of cat and mouse, while you are bolted to the TVs to watch the next move. It's a circus.
Do you want to know why this happens? Because of resources. A war with Russia would mean that they can easily stop any deals regarding resources - natural gas, petrol, metals... Which means that the price goes up for the regular person. Meaning - Us.
Also, a war specifically on the land border of Europe with Asia means that Europe is LOCKED on ground. Should Europeans hire boats to go to Egypt? The way the world is weaponizing Ukraine, while Putin waits (cmon... even the dumbest of you should think "wtf is Putin waiting on while Ukraine gets more and more weapons"). Anyway, the way Ukraine is weaponized, Europeans should bolt to anywhere else. There's even a plan for Ukraine to become a New Jerusalem. They have the first jewish president while their death squad are nazis... Do you see the conflict of interests? Do you see the game of cat and mouse? It's just theatre.
Ok, last one. :D In Germany, the jewish population was Ashkenazi, and the political party (seemingly against them) choose the abbreviation - nazi. :D Spoiler - all Ashkenazi jews got safely to Palestine thanks to the Brits.
Based Traditional Russia coming in with the highest abortion, HIV, and divorce rates in Europe
You know how there's that strain of conspiracy theorists/preppers that are faced with this murderous Satanic Fascist control system and talk about a "parallel economy" and "getting off the grid" and things of this nature?
What I have observed is that that's precisely what Russia, China, Iran, Turkiye, SA, et al, have been doing on a global scale over the last year, but none of those people I mentioned seemed to have ever noticed. Makes me wonder how deep their powers of analysis really were.
Anyway, my point is that both Russia and those CTists share the underlying goal that you do not have to give a single rip about anyone who opposes you (unless of course you care to).
That includes all the anti-Russia shills on this forum.
Makes me wonder what would be the power of analysis of someone who fails to see all the jewish funding and connections these countries have but I suppose anyone who spent his career in the military would not have that faculty ever developed.
Turkey's ruling party is very connected to jewish israelis. It's laughable that anyone would think SA has any power on its own.
And China? Russia? You think those countries got where they are today due to their hard-work?
I regret there's really no way to sensibly reply to something so disorganized. Have you ever heard the phrase "not even wrong"?
Thanks for what I'm sure you consider a "contribution". Or maybe it's a "refutation". Who can say?
Serious question, I hope you find it in you to either answer it honestly or make a post about it for others.
If Russia,China,Turkey, Saudi Arabia, etc.. are all about geopolitics and "their" interests and independence, how come they all played along to the letter with the covid hoax?
Or maybe you think those lock-downs, masks and vaccines were for the good of humanity?
Do you consider "played along to the letter" to be well-defined description? I hope you find it in you to link to your source with this wording or make a post about it for others.
To assume this, you also must assume MSM is telling you the truth, which is as far from realistic as you can get. Well...maybe not YOU, but most of us.
Be more concise, what do you mean by "this" in "To assume this"?
Primate98 is the one who thinks The stooge of Saudi Arabia is some powerful independent ruler. I know for a fact that China, Turkey and Saudi Arabia did have lock-downs and vaccinated their people. what are you exactly insinuating?
"Be more concise, what do you mean by "this" in "To assume this"?"
How do you know this "for a fact?"
Generally speaking, you cannot deny that all countries all over the world had lock-downs to varying degrees, and they all vaccinated a good portion of the population. I know people from different parts of the world and I know this for a fact without checking any news.
You may dispute differing details, or I guess you may suppose that one country "pretended" to vaccinate their people while giving everyone saline or something BUT and this is my point, all "leaders/presidents/kings/etc.." complied and obeyed what ever directions they were given.
Turtlebam is an obvious fake persona.
Part of a shill farm that focuses on hate and shizo larps.
Notice that you’ll only get a bad faith response from him. Every time.
It’s like a DNC cut out of what they project onto anons—absurd, nonsensical, reaching antisemitic nonsense that not even an actual white surpemacist would say.
Someone will point to that content later in some analysis of .win sites and use it to claim this is a hate site. It’s not hard to see why it’s being done.
And in the process this place becomes useless and full of retarded spam and bad faith arguments.
You know, I've noticed this is going on even worse over on r/conspiracy. I mean, even worse than how worse it was before. My theory is that They have been reduced to the primitive technique of "the bad drives out the good".
To illustrate, imagine trying to drive a rival bar out of business. Instead of trying to complete, every day you just hand 40 bucks each to dirty, smelly, loud, aggressive people "experiencing homelessness" to go drink in there all day. Pretty soon, any real customers will get fed up and leave. The bar shuts down and the homeless go back to paying for their own drinks.
Did I just accidentally compare shills to dirty, smelly, loud, aggressive homeless people drinking all day on someone else's dime? Oh my word!
They are worse so don't feel bad.
they are TOLD to hate russia. most people have NO idea why they even oppose or don't like russia. look into "the red scare".
the people of the united states are told Russia is evil much like NK tells it's people the U.S is evil.
see Rocky IV. I saw it in the theater and had no idea about propaganda then. I was 12.
For someone who pretends to hate the Jews you sure love to suck on jewish dick.
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When it's too good to be true then it's not true.
Russia is false opposition, Putin works for the Chabad Lubavitch and for jewish Russian oligarchs. The same guy who appointed Yeltsin appointed Putin.
It's tough and will take time to accept but it's the unfortunate truth.
They are building the same type of Putin character BTW in Turkey. Erdogan is the just the fake conservative who takes orders from jewish israelis and will used later on in the same manner of Putin.
I'm not allowed to go into your house to correct your degeneracy. Russia isn't allowed to go into Ukraine's house to correct their degeneracy. Without respect of borders, the world is eternally at war.
Russia is bad because they gave away their power over Ukraine as condition to save Russia from US during 1990s. And now they act like they didn't give Ukraine away, meaning they should have not been spared in the 90's.
Russia also borders China, but I've never seen them invade Xinjiang to save the Uighurs who are allegedly under similar sociocultural existential strain. Perhaps the humanitarian reasons the Kremlin gives for its actions aren't the primary driving force behind their assault?
This is one of the more thoughtful replies I've seen regarding Russian aggression. I think there are some differences between Ukraine and China though. Donbass its filled ethnic Russians who speak Russian and would be happier either being independent or rejoining Russia.
Since 2014 the have been shelled by Kiev on the regular and forced to speak Ukrainian. Russia didn't invade unprovoked either. The Minsk II agreement ended up being more a of stalling tactic that allowed Ukraine to build up resources. They intended to join NATO and were making moves that were perceived by Russia as aggressive.
Then when the conflict did start, the west ensured that there would be no successful peace talks thanks to the likes of Boris Johnson.
This war belongs to Vicky Nuland and Ihor Kolomoyskyi, not Putin.
Russia is desperate for a larger share of global oil distribution, and every other "reason" sprang up after-the-fact as an excuse.
Russia sits in the ISS next to America. Don't forget that all the world's a stage. The outcome has already been decided. All the bombs and media are simply to acclimate the public to the new way of life.
I suspect some of them aren't free to say anything other than support Russia.
Russia is a totalian country even more corrupt than the United States, and that is saying something.
ideally Moscow, Washington DC, Beijing, and the WEF would all lose influence simultaneously, otherwise if one falls it will be vacuumed up by the other three and nothing is solved.
Oh cool. Another totally organic pro Russia post.
fits here quite organically though. The alphabet gang isn't all to popular here, and no one cares about ukraine
Not caring about Ukraine and being pro Russia are two different stances.