Geesh. It would help if you paid attention because now I have to educate you. As I mentioned to the other jack-ass in this thread, each floor was 4" thick. If you compress each floor straight down, it's only 33 feet. But that's not what happened. the 9/11 video clearly shows a massive mushroom cloud of pulverized cement raining down and spreading outwards far beyond the area of the photo in the OP. Even if there was no spreading outwards, 33 feet of cement could easily fit into the basement. Regarding the steel, look at the post-aftermath images, there are steel girders EVERYWHERE. Trucks hauled away these columns for months, all accumulated in the surrounding areas and basement. Recall the excavators lifting huge piles of steel and debris. So the next thing you should ask about this post is "OK, so where did it go?" what exactly is the OP trying to say? That the debris just disappeared? Do you know how much force would have been exerted on desks and chairs? The amount of weight bearing down on the contents of this building would easily compact into the sub-floor basement. So the entire argument here is complete trash and typical flat-earth bullshit.
You said a lot. And the only relevant information was that I had to read into it. As the only facts that matter involve rubble removal and a Question of when the photo was taken.
Now may I instruct you in the fact that logic and thinking is not an exercise in squirming your way out of indefensible positions. Simply putting up a wall of text filled with 'chairs and tables' is embarrassing nonsensical argument. This stands especially true for someone so filled with confidence, that they can slanders those opposing them with petty name calling.
And no. It is not normal for concrete and steal to 'blow away'.
One of the world's largest gold depositories was stored underneath the World Trade Centre, owned by a group of commercial banks. The 1993 bomb detonated close by the vault held. Seven weeks after the September 11 attacks, $230 million in precious metals was removed from basement vaults of 4 WTC, which included 3,800 100-Troy-ounce registered gold bars and 30,000 1,000-ounce silver bars.
Well obviously the steel and concrete burned because of the 10,000,000 gallons of explosive jet fuel and turned to feathery ashes and then the tooth fairy wafted it away while the Israeli modern dance team twerked in tutus.
The towers had at least five sub levels you have not accounted for.
On February 26, 1993, at 12:17 p.m., a Ryder truck filled with 1,500 pounds (680 kg) of explosives, planted by Ramzi Yousef, detonated in the underground garage of the North Tower. The blast opened a 100 foot (30 m) hole through five sublevels with the greatest damage occurring on levels B1 and B2 and significant structural damage on level B3.
I demo houses with an excavator lots. You can barely fit a one story house with a peaked roof into the basement unless you really break it up into small pieces. Those buildings were imploded and cleaned up, by a famous company. look into the company. They massive jobs, world record demos, lots of work for Military.
I get that this is just promoting a book but like what even is the conspiracy here? Where are they saying all this stuff went?
I believe the world trade centers had basements that went down 60+ feet so I always assumed the rubble collapsed mainly down into that. Considering buildings like that are mostly air/open space, that seems to make sense to me. Things like toilets and file cabinets were squished down to basically nothing from the forces of the pancaking floors.
Good fucking question. This idiot really thinks that entire structure with all of the furnishings, plumbing, decor, fixtures, interior rooms and cabling, reinforcement just…. Turned into fairy dust and fell perfectly into a 60’ hole.
Let's ignore the fact that each floor has more than 12 feet of 'air' so only the floors and ceiling were compressed, the cement pulverized into dust, and the mountains of iron and debris piled up all around this photo.
110 doors. 9-10” concrete slab minimum.
So that’s 82.5 feet of compressed concrete. Increase surface area post pulverization and collapse. That’s more like 100 feet of rubble. 12 feet of 12” thick walls and support beams, that’s 1380 x 1 x 400 + support beam perimeter x height + interior 3’ staircase walls * perimeter * tower height.
You’re a fucking dumbass of you think that entire structure is fitting in that “mound” plus 60 feet of basement.
The problem with you conspiritards is that you are stupidly lazy. If you only took a step back and did some research before spewing utter nonsense, you would know that each floor was only 4 inches thick. Those 4 inches were mostly PULVERIZED into dust making your statement even stupider. Please go look in a mirror and say "I'm a fucking retard"
I’m not shilling for anything except basic physics and algebra. Idgaf where or what happened to the material. The idea that 1380feet of a skyscraper is all magically present inside that tiny, delineated area is not supported at all.
I love the “entertain the possibility, and it becomes obvious”. I’ll entertain the possibility that the person who made this is a grifter. I’m all about 9/11 conspiracies but I think the one about all the toilets and file cabinets magically disappearing as opposed to falling into the hole that is a very deep basement, is a little over my head
Well the meme gives zero helpful info and you go to that link and it’s just selling his book. I don’t need to deflect anything as it’s on you or op to provide the tiniest bit of evidence or at the very least an attempt at a guess of what happened. You won’t even do that.
I actually believe you or op are trolls or are they type who go around posting retarded shit to make conspiracy theorists look like morons so people won’t believe the more credible theories
I’m not sure how much more clearly I can state I’m responding to the “it all fell into a 60’ hole” argument.
I don’t give two shits about the author or OPs argument.
It turned to dust and covered the entire city
not only that but it spread outwards for blocks, so the OP is a fag.
Op can’t be this stupid can he? The toilets magically disappeared! please buy my book
Your piggybacking has a very unnatural smell to it.
Foreign.
Op is being sarcastic
So, you think concrete and steal turning to dust, and just 'blowing away' is normal? And that OP is a faggot for thinking it's not?
Got it.
Geesh. It would help if you paid attention because now I have to educate you. As I mentioned to the other jack-ass in this thread, each floor was 4" thick. If you compress each floor straight down, it's only 33 feet. But that's not what happened. the 9/11 video clearly shows a massive mushroom cloud of pulverized cement raining down and spreading outwards far beyond the area of the photo in the OP. Even if there was no spreading outwards, 33 feet of cement could easily fit into the basement. Regarding the steel, look at the post-aftermath images, there are steel girders EVERYWHERE. Trucks hauled away these columns for months, all accumulated in the surrounding areas and basement. Recall the excavators lifting huge piles of steel and debris. So the next thing you should ask about this post is "OK, so where did it go?" what exactly is the OP trying to say? That the debris just disappeared? Do you know how much force would have been exerted on desks and chairs? The amount of weight bearing down on the contents of this building would easily compact into the sub-floor basement. So the entire argument here is complete trash and typical flat-earth bullshit.
You said a lot. And the only relevant information was that I had to read into it. As the only facts that matter involve rubble removal and a Question of when the photo was taken.
Now may I instruct you in the fact that logic and thinking is not an exercise in squirming your way out of indefensible positions. Simply putting up a wall of text filled with 'chairs and tables' is embarrassing nonsensical argument. This stands especially true for someone so filled with confidence, that they can slanders those opposing them with petty name calling.
And no. It is not normal for concrete and steal to 'blow away'.
Rent free.
You rang? Haha!
And you; a word salad of nothing.
u/free-will-of-choice
I watched it.your a shill or crazy
Oh my God. I've been caught!
The rubble just landed in the basement's empty void where all that gold was supposed to be.
http://kolibri.teacherinabox.org.au/modules/en-wikipedia_for_schools-static/wp/w/World_Trade_Center.htm
Well obviously the steel and concrete burned because of the 10,000,000 gallons of explosive jet fuel and turned to feathery ashes and then the tooth fairy wafted it away while the Israeli modern dance team twerked in tutus.
The towers had at least five sub levels you have not accounted for.
http://kolibri.teacherinabox.org.au/modules/en-wikipedia_for_schools-static/wp/w/World_Trade_Center.htm
I demo houses with an excavator lots. You can barely fit a one story house with a peaked roof into the basement unless you really break it up into small pieces. Those buildings were imploded and cleaned up, by a famous company. look into the company. They massive jobs, world record demos, lots of work for Military.
I get that this is just promoting a book but like what even is the conspiracy here? Where are they saying all this stuff went?
I believe the world trade centers had basements that went down 60+ feet so I always assumed the rubble collapsed mainly down into that. Considering buildings like that are mostly air/open space, that seems to make sense to me. Things like toilets and file cabinets were squished down to basically nothing from the forces of the pancaking floors.
…. You think 1360 feet of skyscraper disappeared into 60 feet of basement?
Gonna go ahead and guess you’re not great at organizing your closet, too.
But I’m genuinely curious where is this guy saying all the toilets and file cabinets went?
Good fucking question. This idiot really thinks that entire structure with all of the furnishings, plumbing, decor, fixtures, interior rooms and cabling, reinforcement just…. Turned into fairy dust and fell perfectly into a 60’ hole.
Speaking of deflection…
I’m responding to the dude claiming it all fell neatly into a 60’ hole. I make no claim about who took what where.
99% chance it’s on Craigslist. I really don’t give a shit where it went. But certainly not all of it sitting in a 60’ hole.
Let's ignore the fact that each floor has more than 12 feet of 'air' so only the floors and ceiling were compressed, the cement pulverized into dust, and the mountains of iron and debris piled up all around this photo.
Gonna guess you're a fucking idiot.
110 doors. 9-10” concrete slab minimum. So that’s 82.5 feet of compressed concrete. Increase surface area post pulverization and collapse. That’s more like 100 feet of rubble. 12 feet of 12” thick walls and support beams, that’s 1380 x 1 x 400 + support beam perimeter x height + interior 3’ staircase walls * perimeter * tower height.
You’re a fucking dumbass of you think that entire structure is fitting in that “mound” plus 60 feet of basement.
The problem with you conspiritards is that you are stupidly lazy. If you only took a step back and did some research before spewing utter nonsense, you would know that each floor was only 4 inches thick. Those 4 inches were mostly PULVERIZED into dust making your statement even stupider. Please go look in a mirror and say "I'm a fucking retard"
NPC sucks at math and dimensional analysis. More proof our government-run education system is working as intended.
OK brainiac, let's hear why there aren't 100 feet of rubble. This ought to be good.
You confused yourself so much that you forgot what you’re arguing against.
That’s cute.
Gonna guess you believe in engineering fairy tails, you gullible, low IQ moron.
You are shilling for someone claiming the towers just disappeared. Got it. Kinda think that is the fairy tail.
I’m not shilling for anything except basic physics and algebra. Idgaf where or what happened to the material. The idea that 1380feet of a skyscraper is all magically present inside that tiny, delineated area is not supported at all.
Try again, clown.
If you're going out on a limb, support your claim with physics and algebra. Until you do, please stop posting shit that makes you look like an idiot.
4 inches of concrete x 100 pulverized into dust does not = 100 feet. It equals 33 feet, and the basement is what, 10 floors deep? Please grow up.
Holy shit, that’s as far as you could get in that formula? God damn you are slow.
500,000 tons of steel compresses to a cube with sides length 40 meters.
The building was in a footprint of ~60 meters per side, meaning a fully compressed WTC2 would be only 17.7 meters tall.
There was plenty of rubble.
A landfill.
I love the “entertain the possibility, and it becomes obvious”. I’ll entertain the possibility that the person who made this is a grifter. I’m all about 9/11 conspiracies but I think the one about all the toilets and file cabinets magically disappearing as opposed to falling into the hole that is a very deep basement, is a little over my head
kek, obvious libtard fed fag account
What’s 1368ft minus 60ft?
So you think the building was a solid block of material? Lol. Have you been inside a building before? Take notice of how 99% of it is air
Yeah I’d make up talking points and deflect if I were you, too. It’s already spelled out that it’s not a solid or hollow building.
Well the meme gives zero helpful info and you go to that link and it’s just selling his book. I don’t need to deflect anything as it’s on you or op to provide the tiniest bit of evidence or at the very least an attempt at a guess of what happened. You won’t even do that.
I actually believe you or op are trolls or are they type who go around posting retarded shit to make conspiracy theorists look like morons so people won’t believe the more credible theories
I’m not sure how much more clearly I can state I’m responding to the “it all fell into a 60’ hole” argument.
I don’t give two shits about the author or OPs argument.