All of y’all need to read “The Salt Fix” by Dr James DiNicolantonio, or watch interviews with him. No one’s understanding of the effects of sodium is greater than his.
His conclusion? High sodium is not the issue, it’s HIGH CARBS which cause the damage.
Ding ding ding! And if you look generationally, carb intake is the one thing that has gone up a lot since the 70s, neither fat intake nor protein intake has gone up much. However I also have some suspicions on the switch from saturated fat to more PUFA as also contributing to probs. After a lot of research, salt is one thing I took off my problem list and happily salt all my food to taste using iodized salt. ANd it's nice to have at least one thing that tastes good that does not need limiting. Although since I eat less processed food, I probably eat less salt than a lot of people.
The answer is actually nitpicking. The salt is eaten in the carbs. We salt fries, crackers, pretzels, pasta. I love salt, I've had to lay off it many times.
I'm more of the opinion it's all the added sugar and high fructose corn syrup, though the extra carbs don't help, as any look at an Italian family, even a generation ago, will show you.
In my haste I wrote the weakest argument; what I should have written is that there is a multitude of healing benefits from using upwards of 6 grams a day of high quality mined salt (not sea salt, which is now tainted)
My Grandpa used to coat every meal he ate in salt until it was white. He said he did that during WW2 because the army food was so horrible. He continued doing that until he died at 86.
I've been watching evidence that salt is not a big deal for decades now. For most people, there has never been strong evidence that salt was a big danger. Results that found probs were mostly either correlational with high salt eaters also eating a SAD diet or were in peeps with impaired kidney function. Other studies showed only about 3 percent of peeps had much blood pressure change when they ate high salt diets, the rest had only tiny transient changes, not enough to worry about when walking up a flight of stairs has far more effect. Also I found a fair amount of data showing a low salt diet was correlated with increased all cause mortality. Salt is an important electrolyte and you sweat it out when you exercise, you can literally die if your body runs too low on sodium. Also if you look at salt intake across generations, it has not changed much overall. So maybe think hard about why you assume this study is disinfo, maybe the truth is big pharma has been lying to you all this time, saying you need statins and blaming your probs on salt intake when that was not the real cause of your probs.
I've heard this before but not researched it thoroughly. It's been regularly stated in conspiracy forums that the sugar industry has heavily lobbied the FDA and other "health" organizations, to support the narrative that things like heart disease and obesity are due to fat and salt consumption, rather than excess sugar consumption, which is what's actually causing it. If this is true, then in reality this study might be one of those rare cases where "science" accidentally reports the truth.
The sugar industry did a lot of research to try to get people to think "all calories are the same" when they are, in fact, not the same. Sugar calories on an "energy in/energy out" diet are the same, but sugar is NOT the same as other calories in how they affect your hormones.
In short, a bunch of pixie sticks and candy is not the same as a steak, even if they are the same calories, when it comes to how full you feel and how hungry you get later.
The lancet seems to suck less than some of the other science sources. They were also among the first to dare to publish a few things that called into question some of the covid sacred cows.
the subjects are people already hospitalised with heart disease, and the conclusion is that reducing sodium intake in those people had little to no effect
All of y’all need to read “The Salt Fix” by Dr James DiNicolantonio, or watch interviews with him. No one’s understanding of the effects of sodium is greater than his.
His conclusion? High sodium is not the issue, it’s HIGH CARBS which cause the damage.
Ding ding ding! And if you look generationally, carb intake is the one thing that has gone up a lot since the 70s, neither fat intake nor protein intake has gone up much. However I also have some suspicions on the switch from saturated fat to more PUFA as also contributing to probs. After a lot of research, salt is one thing I took off my problem list and happily salt all my food to taste using iodized salt. ANd it's nice to have at least one thing that tastes good that does not need limiting. Although since I eat less processed food, I probably eat less salt than a lot of people.
The answer is actually nitpicking. The salt is eaten in the carbs. We salt fries, crackers, pretzels, pasta. I love salt, I've had to lay off it many times.
Salt the hell out of a steak then go down to chow town.
That sounded a little gay, but you get the idea.
I had to go snowflake, but I do enjoy Buffalo /BBQ tufu etc.
not plant oils?
I sort of doubt that. Seems more to distract away from plant oils giving people strokes and heart failure
I'm more of the opinion it's all the added sugar and high fructose corn syrup, though the extra carbs don't help, as any look at an Italian family, even a generation ago, will show you.
In my haste I wrote the weakest argument; what I should have written is that there is a multitude of healing benefits from using upwards of 6 grams a day of high quality mined salt (not sea salt, which is now tainted)
My Grandpa used to coat every meal he ate in salt until it was white. He said he did that during WW2 because the army food was so horrible. He continued doing that until he died at 86.
I've been watching evidence that salt is not a big deal for decades now. For most people, there has never been strong evidence that salt was a big danger. Results that found probs were mostly either correlational with high salt eaters also eating a SAD diet or were in peeps with impaired kidney function. Other studies showed only about 3 percent of peeps had much blood pressure change when they ate high salt diets, the rest had only tiny transient changes, not enough to worry about when walking up a flight of stairs has far more effect. Also I found a fair amount of data showing a low salt diet was correlated with increased all cause mortality. Salt is an important electrolyte and you sweat it out when you exercise, you can literally die if your body runs too low on sodium. Also if you look at salt intake across generations, it has not changed much overall. So maybe think hard about why you assume this study is disinfo, maybe the truth is big pharma has been lying to you all this time, saying you need statins and blaming your probs on salt intake when that was not the real cause of your probs.
I've heard this before but not researched it thoroughly. It's been regularly stated in conspiracy forums that the sugar industry has heavily lobbied the FDA and other "health" organizations, to support the narrative that things like heart disease and obesity are due to fat and salt consumption, rather than excess sugar consumption, which is what's actually causing it. If this is true, then in reality this study might be one of those rare cases where "science" accidentally reports the truth.
The sugar industry did a lot of research to try to get people to think "all calories are the same" when they are, in fact, not the same. Sugar calories on an "energy in/energy out" diet are the same, but sugar is NOT the same as other calories in how they affect your hormones.
In short, a bunch of pixie sticks and candy is not the same as a steak, even if they are the same calories, when it comes to how full you feel and how hungry you get later.
the paper does not present the conclusion inferred by the headline
the subjects in the study were those already hospitalised by heart disease
The lancet seems to suck less than some of the other science sources. They were also among the first to dare to publish a few things that called into question some of the covid sacred cows.
shame people cannot read beyond the headlines tho'
What I've seen of this was 1970's social guidance propaganda targeting African Americans. Their soul food was seen as exacerbating hypertension.
that's not what the paper says
the subjects are people already hospitalised with heart disease, and the conclusion is that reducing sodium intake in those people had little to no effect
It says considerably more than your headline, even in just this single sentence:
It means "those who have had heart failure and can still walk see no improvement in outcome by now adopting a low sodium diet"