Metatron says the dollar sign is older than the hexagram and is also the original star of Remphan, for which the hexagram was substituted ~100 years ago. But just after the dollar sign comes the crown of thorns, which is a hexagram. Lo shu.
Yeah, that joke c. 100 AD was actually the true beginning of Rabbinical Judaism, where the rabbis had God agreeing that even the supernatural must be judged by human experience, a principle which can be used either for partaking of divinity or for destroying oneself. Judaism had come of age and was out spending its dad's cash IRL without any strings attached. Then that cash ran out and Judaism came to itself, wait (checks watch) not yet.
I did, I proved it wrong to me.
But wrong has no meaning to you beyond that which you give it, so it's impossible to prove anything wrong to you, unless you accept some external standard, beyond what meaning you give, for what is right and wrong.
So life comes with natural consequences: either you agree that there's an objective meaning to right and wrong, or there is no meaning and nothing works, and that's not by your assignment of meaning but by the way the universe conspires to zap people who behave illogically.
Please continue to be illogical if you want the universe to zap you.
Is that right?
there is no right and wrong in life
Then it's not wrong to say there is wrong. That way lies contradiction and loss of all meaning.
That's not a loop pattern, earlier you called it spam. It's just my decision to contextualize the same thing you said several times in one hour in slightly different ways. I've mostly been using silence and downvoting now instead, because you produce so little of value. If you want more replies, let's keep working the value angle.
Jewish banker Jakob Fugger started the Protestant Reformation.
I appreciate your sharing this, so it sort of answers the questions I just posed. And we've probably discussed halotropic breathing before, so I apologize for forgetting.
Jesus is a scam
If Jesus didn't historically exist, it would take such an incredible person or group of people to have created and sustained that narrative of a spotless man walking among us and dying for our sins that there is still something to their message. The narrative of Jesus has no precedent or parallel in history. We might by the numbers consider it the biggest "psyop" in history, but then it might be the biggest because it's actually totally true, and/or the narrative is actually closest to the truth of every other narrative out there. The question isn't settled by the scoffing of nitpickers against the Bible or by the perfidy of many Jews, it's settled by what system has the truth and the best explanation for life. So I prefer when you say "makes more sense that he is hoax" because that's keeping the open mind about it.
we aren't on a planet
I do mod a few odd communities here including c/FlatEarth. So for now let's leave that on the level of "makes more sense" rather than a flat assertion.
Everyone of us is God
We have godlike powers and we are called gods. But there's always Other for us, and there isn't with capital-G God. So to use that formulation, knowing what Christianity interprets it as, isn't the whole of the truth. It may have great shock value, but when you come down to it you don't actually mean you have every attribute that should be attributed to God, and every responsibility. You mean connection. So that's an example where we could grow into truth more adequately.
There is no right or wrong
Another point where too simplistic a view gets us in trouble. If there is no wrong, then it's not wrong to say "there is wrong". Contradictions allow everything and then nothing can be known for sure. What I think you mean is that most external codes of right and wrong go too far. You do admit one rule "reflect my best self", which might actually work if you keep on with it. The connection (identification) of man with God means that there's a sense in which God is our second self and is what we are to reflect. But then you come back to the Jesus narrative being the best record ever of someone reflecting his best self. So when you grow in that rule it always comes back around to the icky Hebrew stories.
So I really appreciate the link. Think on these things.
Great! There's a sense in which it's impossible for a mere human to know everything, but I've also concluded that it's possible for a mere human to sufficiently know any particular thing he sets himself upon knowing, within a sufficient time.
Do you want to figure out what you really are or where you came from? Do you want to know the realities of the zygote substrate that was first defined as "you" and what it hosts? Because it seems, especially on Conspiracies, that we need good understanding of it to be able to sift through the rest. And pursuit of truth or even of mindfulness is sufficient to give foundational principles that can be shared with others that are objective enough to build data about the cosmos. Self-knowledge and other-knowledge are always yoked.
No, I wouldn't want anyone to be required to a faith conclusion, that should only be a conclusion that you are driven to by the facts and the logic of the world, if it's the true conclusion.
Either you do want to figure it out, in which case you freely agree to pursue Truth at all costs, whatever it takes; or you're not that interested in wanting to figure it out and you're more interested in perpetuating your own walls of (dogmatic) judgments that protect you from having to take the real responsibility of figuring it out.
That's why I ask: Would you like to figure it out? Would you like to propose methods by which you could, or to join with others of us who would like to figure it out more?
When your commitment is to Truth wherever it leads, you have no fear of delusion or dogma overtaking you because Truth will guide you. You're free to build with anyone open-mindedly because the worst that can happen is that you discover more Truth and laugh off the less complete picture you used to have. The person who pursues Truth alone is free to join with any who will consider the same pursuit. That's why I offer: if I'm wrong, I want to know, and who better to ask than those who disagree with me?
It is the utter annihilation, humiliation and torture of all human decency, intelligence, wisdom, science and rationality.
Nope, I'll give you a chance to think about it and see what you propose as an alternative.
It preaches that you must forgive people whose intent is to torture, rape and kill you.
No, it preaches that you can forgive, as Jesus did. Would you rather have a means to transcend evil, or would you rather live in fear that evil will destroy something you find important?
It preaches that a blood and death god and its disciples are the sole arbiters of all morality, philosophy and the arts.
How could he be a god if he didn't know how to use blood and death?
It idealizes martyrs, blood sacrifice and plagues, wherever Christianity becomes dominant, starvation, feces and rat plagues follow.
Not the testimony of western civilization.
It strips the normal men to the level of sewer mice and elevates the powerful to the level of God Emperors, turning normal people into disposable serfs while insulting a pope will bring you death.
You're literally quoting Trumpism, which isn't Christianity, sad to report. True Christianity admits that it's imperfect and so even as a Protestant I can identify with the papists who went too far and apologize on their behalf. Because it's about making it right and not just about having the complaint without ever resolving it.
Do what the Python troupe did in their unbelief: get the historical fact right that Jesus himself is untouchable, there's nothing in Jesus to ridicule, it's the entire world around him that is ridiculous. Christianity can be nothing without the person of Jesus. I will be happy to help work with you to right any wrong that has been done in his name, I'm empowered to by him. But it takes first a person reaching out with sincerity and asking for it to be made right, rather than being another complainer who lives to complain and would die if his complaints were all addressed perfectly. So we'll see which you are.
Well, I'm skeptical and seek to be mature enough and don't take things at face value either and they are subject to my own church leaders. But that goes back to the same argument, we both say we've "got it" and yet there is no real difference between our churches except you exclude me and I don't exclude you. So yeah, I think you're pulling false equivalence, I'm not teaching tarot but I'm teaching God has another billion sincere believers than you think, give or take, so it's a pretty big deal. Maybe those billion are virtually all wrong, but they exist and demand resolution. And when I investigated and asked why the division, my mind discovered that there is no difference among works in Christendom except that those that fail are demonstrated by God to have lost the plot, and those that continue have not been so demonstrated yet. Then my spirit was confirmed in the conclusion that the Lord uses all of them in their different strengths and imperfections (body parts) even as Rev. 2-3 shows they're all enemy-infiltrated. And so I stopped judging others who preach Jesus sincerely, unless they are going against the classic creeds (which filioque doesn't, it's just an add that you didn't like). And yet that comes from my spirit testing God's spirit so you go back to suspicion. I don't mind at all that you want to be so skeptical that you miss out on something God may or may not be doing; that's for your protection. I pursued the evidence that God is at work even among people who don't use that much protection, and I've been blessed for it.
I'll buy that. Did you know that the only evidence that box cutters were used came from Bush man Ted Olson's report of a phone call with his wife Barbara except that said call was never found in any of his phone logs? So every blade collected by the TSA is seized upon nothing. Maybe Barbara is in FWRP too.
Now I'm an AE 911 guy from way back, but let me just pick your brains about a side question. I've been telling people about (nano)thermite all this time but I recently realized I didn't know that much about it. I though it'd been used in demolition before but apparently the actual tech hadn't. So the question is, what kind of testing would they have done prior to 9/11 to make sure they could do it right on first go? I don't think any prep buildings went down at Los Alamos or Livermore, for instance. If we could find that it'd connect some dots. I know they wouldn't "pull it" unless they were confident, but I'd thought they had some backup experience and then I couldn't find any when I looked. So if you or anyone had that detail filled in it'd be impressive.
Who do you say that Jesus is?
The enemy is the spiritual forces of evil fighting against Truth, and some humans that have joined them irreconcilably.
God came to me in the person and spirit of Jesus Christ. Jesus is all I have, the one revealed in the traditional books of the Bible. You're free to fight him, but I already told you who I say he is. You don't fight your enemy by making up stories about the BAR added to the truths about the cabal that are already there, no matter who your enemy is.
they openly stated their desire
They are not going to outright say these things
You lost my interest.
Project 2025 is anti-1A because they openly stated their desire to silence those speaking "against traditional families"
I have no idea what you mean. You're quoting something without citation. The only relevant reference to silencing in the Mandate for Leadership is footnote 39 to page 552 where a school board was silencing critics.
Their true aim is to create a Social Credit System
Not in evidence.
natalism has already been proven to not be able to compete in the free market
Logical fallacy because you appear to define natalism as only being government control and thus not the free market at all.
Elon Musk is a pedophile because he went to Epstein Island
Not going to argue for or against that one because I haven't seen the evidence. Not relevant to your point.
Anyway, my point was about pursuit of truth, but what you're doing instead is traditional internet debate without care for truth. It's all so tiresome.
^ says the alt of the c/SynagogueOfSatan mod
Great point. There are several national socialists here who are convinced that Hitler and Mussolini looking at nudes and such were the peak of high art. But with the book burning of 1933-04 there was a chilling effect on new creations aside from the state.
You say everything you say is true but also you're not going to spoonfeed me how P25 is pro-censorship and anti-1A despite the illogic of that position.
A quick check shows that P25 opposes CISA and FCC for what it views as censorship. It also is antiporn and argues that is not censorship or against 1A because porn isn't protected speech. Now that's a hot issue, but not one that's so cut-and-dry that your opinion is automatically obvious. But if you're pro-porn you're pretty globalist and pro-satanist by definition. IMHO. Do minors have a right to download whatever porn terabytes they can sneak around their parents? No, but my argument wouldn't be 1A, it would be that a person's 14A right to maintain his household permits him to destroy porn that his child snuck around him. You see, we have family structures for a reason, it's called training the next generation, the Swiss used to be able to tell you about it.
I already agreed with you that the state stealing tax dollars and diverting them to any subsidized activity du jour, whether effing their wives or just the taxpayers, is the evil in the first place and contravenes the Constitutional intented limits. If you only made sense you'd have me agreeing with you on the cause of removing all government-subsidized activities, that's what Constitutionists believe. But you don't propose an alternative. The alternative to taxation is easy, it's called retaining the fruits of your labor instead of having them stolen. But you have no alternative other than rutting and an agnosticism about all family matters that amounts to deprecation and thus globalist-led extinction.
Don't tell me you prefer B&R and then deny being a communist, that's illogical, even though I did (and continue to) take the opportunity to riff. You're not on the side of the current American plan, which is the best one of my lifetime despite its flaws, and you're not on the side of Truth; you're on the side of defaming Trump connections irrationally.
You're not even asking a question
Now if you don't like my seeking to answer the topics you raise in some sequential order, I'll return you, as I do with people, to my one question: "Is your ... system subject to objective verification outside standards of truth or are you just here to turn everything into misogyny?" I don't think you've answered because you show you don't know the difference between objective verification and your own opinion. As if you read the one and translate it into the other without realizing the process or what is lost in translation. It takes a real intelligent person to see it happening and to know the difference (verbum sat).
If you just have a "cause" that's so important that it calls for destroying the richest man and replacing his view with nothing, you're just another politico pulling levers, who happens to be on this site and not elsewhere. What I have is Truth. It corrects me when I need. I don't need to sweat whether I'm PC in my "cause". The Truth is that if Elon is evil he should be destroyed and if not he should be upheld. But to say Elon is a pedo because he has several kids, which I believe you've said, is not Truth nor pursuit of Truth, it's just politicking. I hadn't worked up the contempt for your position to start warning you that I might drop out of the conversation, but typing that last sentence is bringing up in me the familiar feeling that I should start cutting any conversational losses I have and leave you considering wallowing in freakish misery forever.
Project 2025 is an anti-freedom, anti-1A coup of democracy built on lies to satisfy the fragile ego of a bunch of Christians who can't accept that their ideology is in decline. I have never shared false information.
Funny .... unaware of the difference between information and opinion.
You want to talk about ridiculous asides, how about JG5 and his buttbuddies likening opposing natalism to opposing the idea of birth itself?
Funny .... unaware ridiculous antinatal aside about what you believe to be someone else's ridiculous aside.
To answer, you do seem pretty opposed to birth itself, since I've asked you how people reproduce in your ideal world and you only reply with "imagine no religion" and just let people rut like animals and the education of children will just happen spontaneously without anyone working to do it. That's so globalist it's pathetic. And unaware.
I hope it backfires and everyone chooses Belt and Road
You're actually a real communist? Like you're 21 in college or something? That would explain the atheism and the illogic and the gaslighting and the anti-Americanism, but not the single-issue focus. Look, man, whatever bad person hurt you, it wasn't worth you destroying yourself afterward and getting your data nuked over a narrative that has always looked to me like flat earth, i.e. a larp. You rarely speak as if you care about your core belief, but only as if you care that it keeps sliding the forum away from actual conspiracy research.
Here's your chance to say not only "everything I say is true" but also that you want to pursue truth so much that you're willing to lay all your assumptions on the line for it. Because I have. There's only one Truth that I cannot offer up for negotiation, namely the Truth that holds me and refuses to release me, the Person of Jesus Christ who I have safely entrusted myself to. I can put any proposition on the line except him because only he can release me from himself. If he wants me to be a communist, gung ho! I am the most open-minded of all because it's impossible to have fewer nonnegotiables. (Ya gotta serve somebody.) You don't demonstrate that passion. And if you did it would change the negative perception of you here that you seem to care about.
Not the Big Bang though. And not the Resurrection.
You almost have a point, given how much Merkel is an idiot and how much Germany is the EU backbone. I wrote:
Every single time, right?
Aldi (Albrecht Discount), Bausch & Lomb, Bayer, Birkenstock, Busch, Coors, Faber-Castell, Goldman-Sachs, Haribo (Hans Riegel Bonn), Hellmann's, Knorr, Lehman Brothers, Oscar Mayer, Mercedes-Benz, Merck, Miller, Porsche, Reuters, Rothschild, Siemens, Steinway, Warburg ....
J. S. Bach is German and still rules music.
Albert Einstein is German and still rules physics.
Pope Benedict ....
Even Adolf Hitler moved to Germany so that he'd be considered German.
Which, if true, would be more evidence that God is keeping them alive for reasons, Romans 11 .... They are also prophesied a worse (2/3) destruction of their people before they finally become Christians.
I think the literal Rothschilds are on the sacrificial altar lately and that just means the sacrificers are ... elsewhere.