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dontkillmehillary 6 points ago +6 / -0

First I’ve heard this one. What’s the evidence or claims he’s a pedo?

by pkvi
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dontkillmehillary 1 point ago +2 / -1

Here’s the thing nobody seems to mention... the Covid DNA fucking vaccine was developed before we knew anything about variants. So how do they know it’s effective on variants?

The flu vaccine typically covers 5 of the most likely flu strains for that year, but still other variants spread.

So, even though Chile might be vaccinated through the wazoo, I don’t think they are vaccinated against variants, which explains the high infection rates - people have been convinced they are safe from all strains so their diligence is reduced.

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dontkillmehillary 1 point ago +1 / -0

I had heard he was going to use Amazon? Hi guess they didn’t let him?

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dontkillmehillary 0 points ago +1 / -1

Promises may not have been the right word? If I recall, sometime around the 1870s-1890s dignitaries from Britain and France were making loose lipped commitments to Jewish leadership.

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dontkillmehillary -1 points ago +2 / -3

The Ottomans in Turkey already had a peaceful arrangement with Jews and gave them a settlement in the Jerusalem area. However following WWI Turkey and the middle east were carved up between various allied supporting factions and promises made to the Jews by the UK ad France were conveniently forgotten.

Following WWII the allies were guilt driven to fulfill their promises made during WWI to grant the Jews a homeland, and Palestine was the nation selected to bite the dust.

A fantastic book on the whole subject is called "6 Days of War" which details all of this and pretty much explains all of the problems between Israel and the rest of the middle east which continue to this day.

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dontkillmehillary 1 point ago +1 / -0

Right? Not to mention the Nuremburg code was implemented because of NAZIS.... Surely Hitler and the SS would never allow for untested vaccines to be approved and forced upon a population. The Nuremburg code totally wouldn't have thought of that because Nazis were well known to be responsible with their medical experiments.

It's strait up insulting.

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dontkillmehillary 5 points ago +5 / -0

Well boys. That's it. u/ScutFarkus just FactChecked me. I guess that's the entire argument down the drain.

Oh wait... isn't that a link to the 3rd lawsuit withdrawn by the defendant?

I'm pretty sure that's the third lawsuit because the first one was thrown out of court because it contained lies and false facts.

And it's definitely not the second withdrawn lawsuit because that was filed by a real estate lawyer, and contained an affidavit from an anonymous source and was laughed at by lawyers and the courts.

So you must be fact checking me using the third lawsuit which was withdrawn by "fame whoring" (quote by Kathy Griffen) lawyer Lisa Bloom. The reason this was withdrawn was because Jonson claimed she feared her safety over online threats... except she was filing the suit anonymously through her lawyer.

Following the court ordered Status Conference, Katie Johnson then submitted photos of herself to the Daily Mail for £50,000.... which is a little weird when one is terrified for their safety that they would drop their rape allegation lawsuit, but still submit portrait photos of yourself to a massive British newspaper.

The Daily Mail commented " 'Katie Johnson's account had been believable and compelling right up until the last minute. 'But new information emerged that suggested she had not been telling the truth.'Ultimately it was discovered that Donald Trump's name had been inserted into this, he was not involved whatsoever. After that she had no credibility.'"

But you don't care about any of this at all. I know this because everything I wrote is in the linked article I wrote and you are too fuckin lazy to spend 15 minutes reading the entire thing. Sorry, not lazy... probably too stupid because you went to a Fact Checking website for evidence and somehow felt like it would be valid evidence on this forum.

So... go fuck yourself and don't waste my time anymore.

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dontkillmehillary 1 point ago +1 / -0

Sorry, this is my mistake. I should’ve been more clear. You’re conflating “supporting the NRA” with “supporting the Constitution and natural law,” so I ignored your claim and explicitly replied regarding Trump’s (lack of) support for gun ownership itself. I then continued explaining that the NRA helped write the NFA, showing that they have no intention whatsoever of supporting the Constitution and natural law.

Goal posts shifted - check.

"I love the NRA, I love the second amendment" Newsweek, May 2016 in case you missed it. Or perhaps you missed one of the many many rallies where he repeated this statement. I'm beginning to think facts don't matter to you.. but lets push on and see, shall we?

THEY. HAVE. NO. LEGAL. AUTHORITY. TO. DO. THIS.

Do you have any idea what you are actually saying right now? The DNC and GOP are the two largest parties to occupy Congress and Senate(the legislative branch). It is the duty of CONGRESS to make laws, NOT THE DUTY OF THE PRESIDENT TO RULE BY EXECUTIVE ORDER DECREE.

Furthermore, it is the duty of the Department of Justice to enforce the laws created by CONGRESS and these laws are ruled on by the COURTS (the judicial branch).

Your problem lays with the Legislative and Judicial branches bud, nor the Executive branch under Trump. But you know this, which means either you are intentionally trying to straw man Trump into blame or facts don't matter to you... but lets push on, shall we?

ZERO DEPORTATIONS. ZERO ARRESTS OF GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS.

See my previous point.

“I don’t care about truth; I’m too lazy and stupid to think for myself, so I’ll go right ahead and keep worshipping the narrative created for me by foreigners who are literally exterminating my people from the face of the Earth.

See my previous point.

Glass houses and stones, amiright?

But lets push on...

The USMCA is literally just NAFTA again. Have you read the damn thing? It contains 70% of the text of the Trans-Pacific Partnership. Why are you listening to what your enemies tell you?

It's gotta be hard shift these goal posts so much. In your previous comment you said "He seems more angry that Trump did absolutely nothing he promised to do, violated the law dozens of times, and refused to do his fucking job even when explicitly ordered to by the Constitution."

Did he, or did he not, promise to renegotiate NAFTA and trade deals with China? Did he, or did he not actually do this?

But nothing happened there. The trade deficit just got worse.

You actually linked an article about the trade deficit worsening... during 2020. Seriously? Maybe you might be able to think up another reason, why, in 2020 the trade deficit with China worsened?

Yep, literally exactly what I said the quote was.

Except, context matters doesn't it? (this is why I said the quote was out of context) Trump was commenting on Restraining Orders and not general gun ownership. And here you are on Conspiracies.win actually using The Hill as a source. But facts again... and you...

“I have absolutely no argument against what you said and am too weak, pathetic, cowardly, and brainwashed to talk about anything that my masters tell me not to talk about, so you’re wrong because I say so ha ha I win now. IGNORE REALITY. IGNORE REALITY. IGNORE REALITY.

Wow.

Except I don’t care about things

You --> Facts --> not friends.

Psst, I don’t give a shit.

That much is clear.

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dontkillmehillary 4 points ago +4 / -0

He never did this. He only ever supported gun confiscation. Not that the NRA is any better in that regard; they helped write the NFA.

Except this isn't true. Lets look at the trends from our friends in the press shall we?

Trump and the NRA meet at the Whitehouse - CNN Sept. 2019

"I love the NRA, I love the second ammendment" - Newsweek, May 2016

The NRA and the Trump Campaign Appear to Be Flouting Election Laws. Again. - MSN.com Sept. 2020

Trump says he believes NRA will 'get there' on background checks - CNN Aug, 2019

Donald Trump: NRA Puppet - Third Way (Third Way is a national think tank that champions modern center-left ideas.) Aug. 2020

NRA Endorses Donald Trump for President - ABC, May 2016

Trump is at the NRA today. It didn’t used to be a Republican ally. Washington Post, April 2019

So which is it? According to all the "sanctioned" media, Trump and the NRA have been besties since at least 2016.

"someone actually had the balls to call out career politicians for their hypocrisy

And did what about it? Nothing.

As I said, in the actual comment you are replying to: " he failed to fix it because organizations like the DNC, GOP with help from the CIA, FBI and media managed to keep the guy tied up in partisan legal accusations for 4 years"

He seems more angry that Trump did absolutely nothing he promised to do

Except this isn't true either. From his own site, here is a list of accomplishments and I'm sure you could fact check all day and please do because I'm too lazy to bother with it. One definite concrete promise made and kept was renegotiating NAFTA, which I think you may have forgotten about. Also the renegotiation with China. But check the list I supplied, because I'm sure there is plenty more examples.

at least provide a quote

Okay.

Wow, that quote is pretty damning. I really hope The Hill didn't take the quote out of context like the media has done repeatedly over the guys terms. Oh wait... they did...

Here is the actual quote:

After Vice President Mike Pence referenced gun violence restraining orders, Trump stated, “Or, Mike, take the firearms first, and then go to court. Because that’s another system. Because a lot of times, by the time you go to court, it takes so long to go to court, to get the due process procedures. I like taking the guns early. Like, in this crazy man’s case that just took place in Florida, he had a lot of firearms — they saw everything. To go to court would have taken a long time. So, you could do exactly what you’re saying, but take the guns first, go through due process second.”

Yes, because only Jew Party A would ever hate a member of Jew Party B.

Not touching that comment with a 10' pole thanks.

demonizing the right

What right? Call the RNC “right” again; I dare you.

If you recall, from the comment you replied to, I stated - " he failed to fix it because organizations like the DNC, GOP with help from the CIA, FBI and media managed to keep the guy tied up in partisan legal accusations for 4 years"

psst. the GOP is the traditional term used for the RNC, it means "Grand Old Party".

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dontkillmehillary 5 points ago +5 / -0

People keep persisting in the "he raped a 13 year old" myth. So much so, I've created a nice little article which tries to clarify whether or not he did and from what I could tell it was a made up story pushed by a never Trump republican and a Jerry Springer producer, who used a meth addict as a victim.

But thanks for the reasonable reply, and sorry if I've come off strongly, but after 4.5 years of made up bullshit (see other comments in this thread from people who still believe these narratives) I figured I wouldn't have to be subjected to any more mindless TDS horse crap on conspiracy pages anymore. I guess I was wrong on that, but at least you aren't an asshole and thats pretty cool.

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dontkillmehillary 7 points ago +7 / -0

Dude, seriously, what’s your fascination with Trump? What exactly beyond repeatedly supporting the NRA and warning us Joe was coming for guns did he do? How was Jan 6 a super secret plot to steal guns when no protestors were armed and they were explicitly told not to bring weapons by organizers.

I get it, you hate Trump because you are so outraged someone actually had the balls to call out career politicians for their hypocrisy, and he failed to fix it because organizations like the DNC, GOP with help from the CIA, FBI and media managed to keep the guy tied up in partisan legal accusations for 4 years, and instead of being pissed off that these groups preferred frivolous legal charges over allowing a duly elected president to actually work to the betterment of the USA, you are angry that Trump said stuff that the press didn’t like.

This is a .win site, so who did you expect political support to weigh in favour of? Jill Stein maybe?

Honestly, if you are going to go on and on and on about Trump with daily posts, make supporting statements and provide sources otherwise your arguments come down to sad feelings and personal outrage. It’s tiring.

I would love to argue second amendment and Trump with you all day long but for fucks sake my dude, if you are going to say Trump plotted all the secret disarmament with the DNC at least provide a quote, executive order, or something to support your claim, or else I’m just going to assume you are a democrat pretending to be a conservative in order to post threads demonizing the right like a wolf in sheep’s clothing. You aren’t that are you?

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dontkillmehillary 3 points ago +3 / -0

It's freaky because for the first 55 seconds it's like Howard Beale is talking entirely about 2020-2021.

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dontkillmehillary 10 points ago +10 / -0

LOL - google "Nuremburg Code"

Top response is: "FACTCHECK.ORG - Nuremberg Code Addresses Experimentation, Not Vaccines"

Motherfuckers already are trying to shift the conversation away from Nuremburg.

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dontkillmehillary 5 points ago +5 / -0

Because it’s about making a coercive post title designed to trick casual readers who won’t click through to the comments or look any further. Our boy Magapede is a pro at this trick.

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dontkillmehillary 6 points ago +6 / -0

They have also been working diligently to make the word “Patriot” synonymous with White Supremest.

Naomi Wolf writes about these trends in her 2009 book “End of America” which I think should be required reading for any conspiracy theorist in 2021.

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dontkillmehillary 2 points ago +2 / -0

Thanks, and you’re entitled to your opinion, but I think if you want to have better and more rounded opinion I suggest you research the topic further. Your looking at the 2nd Amendement in a very “Made by 60 Minutes” framework, and there is a lot of very interesting information to be found on the topic literally leading back to 1776.

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dontkillmehillary 1 point ago +1 / -0

These are the guys who would be using those drones and it doesn't look like they are cheering for Pelosi. Trump had and still has incredibly deep support from the military. Probably because he gave them their first pay raise since 2010, and fixed the VA among other things.

I'm pretty sure that this support, and the fear of it, is why the Dems have been desperately trying to purge the military of wrong think and institute a military doctrine based upon inclusion and everyone gets a trophy mentality.

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dontkillmehillary 5 points ago +5 / -0

Who do you think comprised the “well regulated militia” in 1776?

James Madison (who introduced the 2nd Amendment) ”The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. A well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the best and most natural defense of a free country."

Thomas Jefferson, in 1778, wrote “This difference is ascribed to our superiority in taking aim when we fire; every soldier in our army having been intimate with his gun from his infancy.” which is an odd statement if the intent of the 2nd was to only arm the militia... unless infants were permitted to serve in the milita also.

Jefferson doubled down on this idea later, in 1824 (long after the 2nd was passed), when he wrote ”The Constitution of most of our states (and of the United States) assert that all power is inherent in the people; that they may exercise it by themselves; that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed."

There are plenty more quotes regarding the 2nd in the Federalist Papers and later from pretty much every signatory to the Consitution.

So, the cherry picking which goes on is that of the uninformed making assumptions about the intent of the 2nd Amendment when those who wrote the Amendment were crystal clear on its intent and application.


*Edit; Had some time, so here is a few more for you ;

“A militia when properly formed are in fact the people themselves…and include, according to the past and general usuage of the states, all men capable of bearing arms… "To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms, and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them.” - Richard Henry Lee, 1788.

“Besides the advantage of being armed, which the Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation, the existence of subordinate governments, to which the people are attached, and by which the militia officers are appointed, forms a barrier against the enterprises of ambition, more insurmountable than any which a simple government of any form can admit of.” - James Madison, 1788.

“The Constitution shall never be construed to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms.” - Samuel Adams, 1788.

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dontkillmehillary 1 point ago +1 / -0

Without question, but whatever trap was set would have been meaningless with a hundred thousand armed Americans screaming for representation, backed by the President and in all likelihood most of the military.

by pkvi
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dontkillmehillary 2 points ago +2 / -0

(Note; This isnt an attack on you or pkvi. Its me venting frustration seeing the same tired arguments over and over and having to write the same fuckin counter arguments over and over to “correct the record”)

Donald Trump represented the segment of society who was not in the political elite club. Maybe he was in it, maybe he wasn’t but the idea he was not in it is what carried power, and continues to carry power with a huge segment of the USA whether you and I or pkvi likes it or not.

A free society is one governed by its people, and the system we face today allows only for those capable of funding a national campaign which includes frequent trans national flights, tv campaigns, and countless other public appearances. Neither you nor I can acomplish this with our meager savings, so we are relegated to voting for one of two rich-ass parties, or the occasional billionaire like Trump or Perot who manages to trick the system well enough to let them through their gate keeping.

The argument that Trump was playing us as fools appears based upon the fact that he was rich, and thats about it.

Individuals like yourself perpetuate the false narative that Trump was buddy buddy with Epstein, despite ample evidence to the contrary.

“But Trump said Jeff was a nice guy!”, which is true. I think my local bus driver is a pretty nice guy and that doesnt make us besties.

”But women said Trump did stuff!” which may also be true, but we live in a society which is supposed to assume innocence until proven guilty. Epstein was found guilty by a court, and in that trial the Miami Dade police, Epstein victims, and FBI all asserted Trumps innocence.

”But Trump and Epstein raped a 12 year old girl! She even said so on an affidavit!”, except that affidavit was sworn anonymously which means the bus driver I said was a nice guy could have been the one swearing to it. Also, the newspaper (Daily Mail) who interviewed the girl, and posted photos of her, pretty much said they felt she was full of shit, and so did the journalists fro The Daily Beast and Jezebel.

But here you are, arguing the same old flaccid cases, which have led us to the point where we sit around and whine about leftist guilt upon accusation which is finally biting lefties like Cuomo in the ass.

Were the “anti-Trumpists” as vocal when Hunter Biden was accused of laundering money for the current President of the USA? Or when The current President of the USA was accused of shoving a finger up the cooch of one of his employees? Did they forget that another Democrat President also abused a young intern and also hung out with Epstein, but this same fuckin scumbag was tapped by Kamala to discuss womens empowerment? Where is the outrage when we see multiple pictures of Bill “take this vaccine” Gates was photographed multiple times with Epstein after his conviction of sexual abuse?

It’s shocking to see arguments made here which are based entirely on details intentionally misreported by the MSM, when you, me, pkvi, magapede, axolotl and every other motherfucker on this web site knows, without question, we have been lied to constantly for YEARS by the MSM.

Where was the outrage by “anti-Trumpers” when freedom of speech was trampled for not only the sitting President of the USA, but every other conservative pundit who was cancel cultured out of Twitter, Facebook and elsewhere under the pathetically lame excuse of “well they are private companies so they can do what they want”. Given that retarded logic, I suppose it would be ok for a private hospital to refuse an emergency patient because of their political leanings... unless thats not ok, in which case its totally not fuckin ok to violate, indirectly, the *First fuckin Ammendment of the Consititution” which includes freedom of assembly and freedom of religion which leftist zealots have been gleefully trampling over since March 2020.

But it looks like you and pkvi have gobbled the propaganda up like a fat kid eating smarties, so long as that propaganda agreed with your opinion which they manufactured for you as you journied through school.

Trump did plenty. He did a fuck more for you and me than Obama did, Bush, Clinton, Bush, Reagan, Carter, Ford, Nixon, Johnson, and Kennedy did during their tenures, and you can see a partisan reported list here You can disagree, and thats cool because thats what freedom of speech lets you do and I’m in favor of that, but for fucks sake my man, look further than NBC, CNN, CBS, ABC, your high school teacher, and your state sponsored college prof tells you and start looking at primary sources and read what the founding fathers envisioned for the USA, because none of us are living in that envisioned state any longer.

The problem with Trump is that he has shown himself to be a weakling incapable of mustering the fortutude required to finish the job he started. Trump had thousands of supporters prepared to do whatever he said on Jan 6, and he chickened out. Imagine if George Washington found himself in the same position as Trump on Jan 6... what would he have done? Or James Madison, or Thomas Jefferson, Alexander Hamilton, Ben Franklin, or any of the other silk stocking wearing motherfuckers who signed the Declaration of Independance.

So now, we’re all going to be fucked over in Joes lockdown, double mask, guilt by accusation, get your vaccine world and guys like pkvi make it somehow seem like its Trumps fault, or that of his supporters when in reality we’ve all sat back and allowed it to happen to ourselves - because we all want the best things for us and our neighbors and the MSM has tricked us into thinking the best thing for us is what makes them and their buddies more wealthy while everyone else slaves within their totalitarian “social justice guidelines”.

At least Trump tried.

by pkvi
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dontkillmehillary 4 points ago +5 / -1

So, u/pkvi I seriously want to ask you... why do you feel the need to constantly belittle Trump supporters?

Is it self superiority?

Is it a satisfaction you want to display like a strutting peacock over how awesome you were predicting that Trump would lose?

Is it an attempt to make those you disagree with feel shitty?

I don’t get it. You seem like a pretty reasonable person, but you insist on acting with a self superiority not unlike AOC. Wtf? It’s like having a conspiracy theorist acting like someone working on the sly for the DNC, but I don’t actually think you do, but maybe I’m wrong.

If you don’t work directly for the DNC, you only really sound like a snot nosed know nothing fresh out of highschool or college indoctrination. I don’t think that’s the case either, but maybe I’m wrong.

So please tell me and the rest of the forum, What exactly do you gain?

If you want to have a decent conversation, like most of us do, attacking and insulting and doing everything in your power to belittle a person who voted for Trump - like at least 45%, but more likely 60% of America did - is not the way to start the conversation.

Honestly I’m confused and frequently saddened by you.

(edit: ps, I think we’re all on the same side, and that’s the one Joe Biden isn’t on)

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dontkillmehillary 2 points ago +2 / -0

I might have been a Northern Timber Wolf.. they can be friggin huge.

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