Our culture is under full attack. Our religion is under full attack. Our social structure is under full attack.

And like the little fat kid in the playground, we just sit and take it.

I don’t think so.

The Sons of God, or Watchers, rebelled against God and tried to take his creation for their own. Part of that rebellion was corrupting Gods perfect creation - man. Some of this is detailed in the War scroll and some in the Book of Enoch.

God flooded the world to get rid of the corruption of the Watchers, and according to the Book of Giants, God granted clemency to some of the Nephelim at Noah’s request.

To make sure man was free of spiritual corruption, he laid out 10 simple rules for us to follow - the 10 commandments. Sin appears to violating that extremely simple rule set.

These rules appear to be in place to help us fend off the corruption introduced by the Watchers and, when we fuck up - like we always do - we need to be disciplined just like we would disciple our own children when they insist on endangering themselves by ignoring the rules we set for their own safety.

Most of the horror show in the Old Testament is God continuing to purge the blight introduced by the watchers. Some of the events (I believe) are Jewish bull worship traditions being introduced to the text and blended with the identity of God to muddy the waters. Like I said, Jews love worshiping Bull gods, and love child sacrifice too for some reason

Eventually Jesus showed up to remind man that the rules were simple and forgiveness guaranteed, just like we would forgive our own children (see the parable of the Prodigal son).

I have similar feelings about the Christian god. Does Christ need our fealty? What if we take his advice, and pattern our lives based on his teachings, but do not worship him? Are we destined to hell because we do not bend the knee?

FYI just finished reading the Gospels of Mark, Matthew, Luke, and John. Here is my take away;

The message Jesus gives is this - 1) Follow the 10 commandments 2) Recognize that human suck and we sin 3) ask for forgiveness for that sin and try not to do it again 4) -most important- realize that forgiveness will be granted if the request to be forgiven is genuine.

That’s it. The rest of the Gospels is Jesus proving what faith does and forecasting his crucifixion.

The doom god you are talking about is the one Jews were following and they always revert to worshipping bull headed gods anyhow.

Take all that for what you will…

Oh boy! I think OP might have an agenda they are pretending not to have!

Just wait until people realize they are planning expiry dates on their money.

Too late already. Have you missed the incoming global currencies? Or maybe that Finland is NATO, or that the United States government in power has handed over $150 billion to Ukraine and said fuck you to their own people in Ohio?

Maybe you’ve missed that they have convince people that actual cow farts are causing climate change? Or how strip-mined Afghani lithium powered battery cars are better for the environment than a carbon captured internal combusion engine?

These mother fuckers have been planning this out since at least the fall of the Soviet Union. We’re just catching up now because they no longer think they have to hide it.

There is no need for distraction friend. They are doing it openly and pretty much showing us how they are doing it. They don’t give a fuck anymore.

They have subverted the fundamentals of American ideology and made the phrases “freedom” and “liberty” and most importantly “justice for all” actual social slurs.

The have successfully infiltrated and influenced our acedemic, scientific, business and media outlets. They have either paid off, or convinced anyone who should be fighting for basic freedoms that the opposite is better for them.

They continue to laugh in our faces and flaunt their distain for any of our nations constitutions and national gaurentees. They know they are almost at the point where they can tell us anything they want, and everyone in the world with a public voice will just drool for a chance to lick their boots.

And they are going to keep pushing us, and openly fucking with us, until we get so fuckin pissed off about it, we all decide to get violent - just like every other time in history. And that’s exactly what they are waiting for because that’s when they subjugate us all through the worst crimes we have ever seen, and they will justify it by claiming they were only defending themselves and all the bootlicker voices they claim to represent.

We’re fucked because the entire generation currently able bodied enough to carry a rifle is more concerned about being gangsta, being the opposite sex, or what’s going up on their girlfriend’s instagram.

Good time’s a comin..

According to the DOJ - The indictment or criminal prosecution of a sitting President would unconstitutionally undermine the capacity of the executive branch to perform its constitutionally assigned functions.

Where is the nuclear football then?

How does that jive with requiring Christians only at the upper ranks of York rite? (Ie. Grand architect)

Lol, so the rumors are true! Old dudes hiding from their wives, and drinking beer...

I do not believe this is true for York.

Scottish Rite is how you explain it - basically a show. However York Rite follows the practices of the Blue lodge, as York Rite is the original tradition.

Scottish Rite claims to be descended from Jacobites who fled to France following the Charles II revolution. It's official Supreme Council was formed in 1801... well after the accepted date of 1390 for the York Rite which dates its lineage to the Regis Document.

My suspicion is that the corruption of Freemasonry happened with the Scottish Rite, and its influence from Eurotrash nobility. The famous 33rd Degree is only found in the Scottish Rite, and not York. Also, all the scumbag Freemasons we hear about all seem to be connected to Scottish Rite, and involve the degrees beyond the 10 degrees found in York (I think).

Further, of the 2 Rites, later degrees in York require members to be Christian (specifically), which sort of flies in the face of the presumed Satan worship Freemasonry is accused of.

The founding fathers who were Freemasons all appear to have been members of the York Rite, as the Scottish Rite didn't exist during the War of Independence.

Are you able to confirm how accurate I am on this? I would be curious to see how close some of my guesses are getting to the mark, based on what I've gleaned from Internet sources and the Freemason source books I've seen.

How does this comment get missed?

I'll bite;

What degree are you and what Rite are you (York or Scottish)?

So why are you trying to define death by claiming Jesus died?

Because 'Jesus' held a physical body. By his own words, his spirit was endless See Juke 24:39. His body died and he resurrected - you are the one who has been insisting death is some kind of final "never coming back" result. However Jesus personally resurrected multiple people, and also others were resurrected when Jesus did see Matthew 27:52-53.

Humans define death in a certain way. Since god defines death, then Jesus didn't die because gods definition of death is allegedly (according to you) different than the definition that humans use.

Correct, according to the Gospels Jesus died (in the way humans define it - your words) and then resurrected. There is no contradiction. God defines what is and is not death, and because God determines the rules of the universe, God can change those rules whenever he wants. There is no immorality in this, because it is God who defines morality.

So, I think I've played a pretty fair game with you so far, and I think it's my turn to start asking a couple of questions. 1) What religion do you identify with? I can't continue to discuss this with you unless I understand what perspective you are arguing from. 2) What are your personal interpretations of 'afterlife'?

That's cool. Feel free to dance around the issue regarding DNA and religion all you want. I'm personally going with if The Son of God calls himself a Jew, then he was probably a Jew. But maybe he wasn't, but it's irrelevant because the coming of the Messiah effectively eliminates the necessity to identify as a Jew, as proper adherence to the principals of the Mosaic tradition would require Jews to convert to Christianity.

And before you object on that topic, I'll save you some time - Christ is the Greek term for Messiah. So, once the Messiah returns devout Jews should have converted to "Messiahism" or as we call it, Christianity - like the Sadducees and Essenes likely did.

God literally defines what death is and is not. Your argument on this is meaningless.

Many assumptions about Jesus, all without any proof.

Except he refers to himself as a Jew multiple times. He even refers to himself as the Messiah which is a Jewish title.

Isaiah clearly says the Messiah will be killed by his own people:

53;7 He was oppressed and afflicted, yet he did not open his mouth; he was led like a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before its shearers is silent, so he did not open his mouth.

Not all Jews contributed to plotting against and insisting on the death of Jesus. Only the Pharisees did this. The other Jews like the Sadducees and Essenes presumably converted to follow Jesus after his resurrection.

And Jesus was a Jew. Most of his apostles were Jews. In fact most of the people he preached to were Jews. The Jews killed a Jew. That's not slander.

But to turn Jesus into a god and then claim that the Jews "killed god" is the biggest slander you can ever make against any humans on this Earth.

Jesus was not turned into a god and he even accepted he was not "good". See Mark 10:18 Jesus states that only 'The Father' is good.

It's an idiots conclusion is that no one could kill the Messiah. If God is all powerful, and chose to be killed, or even choose to let the Messiah die, how could that be impossible? Mortal death for God is irrelevant because God is eternal. Likewise, it's God that determines what lives, dies, and even what defines death.

So while God could chose to die a thousand times in the meat-sack body he chooses to drive on Earth, his essence is immortal.

From Daniel 9:

Seventy weeks are decreed about your people and your holy city, to finish the transgression, to put an end to sin, and to atone for iniquity, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal both vision and prophet, and to anoint a most holy place.

Know therefore and understand that from the going out of the word to restore and build Jerusalem to the coming of the Messiah the Prince there shall be seven weeks. Then for sixty-two weeks it shall be built again with streets and a trench, but in a troubled time. And after the sixty-two weeks, an anointed one shall be cut off and shall have nothing.

From Isaiah 53: ” He was despised and rejected by mankind, a man of suffering, and familiar with pain. Like one from whom people hide their faces he was despised, and we held him in low esteem. 4 Surely he took up our pain and bore our suffering, yet we considered him punished by God, stricken by him, and afflicted. 5 But he was pierced for our transgressions, he was crushed for our iniquities; the punishment that brought us peace was on him, and by his wounds we are healed. 6 We all, like sheep, have gone astray, each of us has turned to our own way; and the Lord has laid on him the iniquity of us all.”

So if you are a Jew and believe in the prophets Daniel and Isaiah, the Messiah must come before the fall of the second temple (70AD) and Jews will forsake him.

For Jews, the Messiah came and he was ignored and the prophecy fulfilled.

Here is the link to the Bloodlines of the Illuminati on the CIA resource site. That book was supposed to be one of those in Bin Laden's bookshelf in Pakistan, which for some reason Seal Team six collected.

Anyhow, thats the link to the resource. It's been a while since I looked around there, so I'm not sure the best way to navigate.

Lol, I've come to appreciate the retardation a little bit.

Have you checked out some of the books on the CIA web page, which are allegedly from Bin Ladens library? There is some really wacky stuff there.

I'm not pointing the finder at OP, because we all make mistakes. And ya, I agree words like Covid and 5G were common until the recent past couple of years which is what made me scan the PDF.

So someone, and I don't think it's OP, is spreading a bullshit document for some reason. I think that is the more interesting conspiracy.

Here is a PDF copy of this book which I scanned for the words "Covd", "5G" and "Lockstep". None of these words appear in the text.

Hey sorry, I got busy and didnt get around to replying until now. The topic is kind of dead, but if you want to keep chatting about it, feel free to pm me.

I was here on day 1 .win went public. That's long before this .win got here. I know the history.

Cool, so was I. Respectfully in the future I'll just ask for the common courtesy of you not just assuming I'm an uninformed ass-hat, and I'll grant you the same courtesy.

We are both here using the site for the same reasons and it's better for us both to discuss this as friends and not opponents.

if everybody here took time to get better informed and more skillful at discussing this topic and then brought it back here, why would that be a bad thing

I'm all for FE having its own community, but the nature of the topic is specifically connected to the idea of conspiracies as a whole. We have to discuss it here.

Consider if even one of their ideas prove accurate, then we would be idiots to ignore the implications. Hiding aliens or various mass murder events is one thing, but hiding potential falsehoods which impact our fundamental understanding of physics implies conspiracy on a completely different scale.