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VeilOfReality 2 points ago +2 / -0

So you agree that censorship is bad. Maybe I'm a time traveler that's here to warn you of the disastrous consequences about to be inflicted from this new direction! As you say the world may never know, or perhaps it shall...

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VeilOfReality 2 points ago +2 / -0

Because on a conspiracy forum we generally believe that free speech is important and censorship is inherently wrong (especially when the censorship being enforced is the same as the "regime", however you want to define that, is enforcing). It's not just about being able to use slurs.

I just don't understand how you can hold the belief that we need to clamp down on this speech because it's going to get us shutdown and people literally jackbooted, but then say, "eh I'll allow it in some places so people stop being mad". I do think it's good that you're considering how to handle other viewpoints (though I disagree with the handling) and am trying to keep a measured head about this. But I just cannot understand how you can hold these two ideas at once. It's cognitive disonnence to the extreme

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VeilOfReality 1 point ago +2 / -1

Why can't you? If you're going to have "NSFW" zones simply to placate users, while having true cause to believe the content posted there is so dangerous we have to worry about intelligence agencies shutting us down and users potentially being grabbed from their homes by boots on the ground, you are acting in a way that is INCREDIBLY foolish. So either you are not mentally sound to be moderating this board or that point was not material to this discussion. There really isn't a middle ground here

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VeilOfReality 2 points ago +2 / -0

So I will have to reiterate this invalidates any kind of concern about the well-being of members being grabbed by foot soldiers, or federal agencies looking for any excuse to shut us down. Can we admit that was not an actual justification for enforcement now?

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VeilOfReality 2 points ago +2 / -0

Then you're not very observant, but I believe you're also very new so it checks out

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VeilOfReality 2 points ago +2 / -0

It's funny how you got downvoted for saying the C-word. It's an instinctive trigger to Q-bies, even though if you look into High Control Groups, you'll find their communities use all the exact same techniques

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VeilOfReality 2 points ago +2 / -0

How will a thread be designated as such? I do not believe this reverses the precedent set, that policing speech like this is damaging to discourse and society, infantalizing adults and changing thought patterns

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VeilOfReality 2 points ago +2 / -0

Again, that comparison was between gold and Bitcoin and I still don't understand how you reached the conclusion I was talking about dollars - but regardless we should be able to call each other retards as we hash it out and I'm glad we can agree on that

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VeilOfReality 3 points ago +3 / -0

I see you're saying the fighting should be done on the basis of views. Sure, that's valid, my view is that policing speech like this is damaging to discourse and society. Discuss

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VeilOfReality 3 points ago +3 / -0

I would rather be able to respond myself because I'm an adult and don't need an authority figure to handle the fact that someone said mean words to me

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VeilOfReality 3 points ago +3 / -0

Yep, that they are, Palantir and Oracle are analyzing the threat you pose, not if you're using unsavory language online. Your presence here is much more damning than calling someone a fag

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VeilOfReality 3 points ago +3 / -0

What possible evidence is there for real concern, what is the consequence, who has seen any of this? You may feel concerned but that doesn't make it a real concern.

Don't conflate "no rules" with "this selected enforcement of rule 1". This again seems like trying to tie in unrelated concerns in attempt to strengthen the point being made here. Also, what do you mean by infighting, and why is that concerning? People should be fighting within this board, that's how the best ideas win. We're not a bloc. Is not calling people mean names going to suddenly make them get along? It seems absurd

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VeilOfReality 2 points ago +3 / -1

Ok, if we're completely dropping the pretense of intelligence agencies coming after us for this and we can admit that was brought up solely to bolster the point despite being inaccurate, I'll bite.

First, context. Second, who cares? Sometimes if my friends are being retarded we will let them know. Getting dangerously close to thought crime here now "what was his intention when he used the word?". Maybe next we can ask how the person it was directed to felt, to really appropriately gauge the impact. Come now, we're not schoolchildren.

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VeilOfReality 2 points ago +3 / -1

Really? And their excuse isn't going to be any of the useful information shared here, any of the suggestions of violence, it's going to be us calling each other retards and faggots that's going to get them to do what exactly?

Ok so now we're getting away from that facetious argument - rule 1 has always been here - and as a community we came to an understanding of what "respectful" was. When I'm with my friends we call each other all sorts of things that would apparently get me thrown in a gulag, this community was the same way. All sanitizing this place is going to do is make it like anywhere else

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VeilOfReality 8 points ago +8 / -0

So people posting violent threats against public figures is somehow akin to non-violent banter against pseudo-anonymous people? No one is coming to anyone's door over someone using a bad word online. And if they eventually do use AI to catch us, you're just as fucked as the rest of us simply by being here. If you're concerned about AI it should be due to its capabilities in sentiment analysis - prior algorithms had to flag no-no words as wrong speak but this is not so any longer now that an idea can be somewhat reasonably extracted from a large series of text

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VeilOfReality 7 points ago +8 / -1

Citation needed. I played the game and edited my last comment as you asked for, but I find it very distasteful and do not believe people are being thrown from their homes for calling other people retards on the Internet

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VeilOfReality 2 points ago +2 / -0

Did you hit the guy I replied to for saying I should be banned for being retarded? Or just me? Why is one use acceptable but one isn't?

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VeilOfReality 0 points ago +1 / -1

No and you are displaying a lack intelligence with no reading comprehension for thinking that. The comparison was between gold and Bitcoin, but in your haste to feel superior you've displayed only the reading comprehension of the average public school middle schooler circa 2026. Absolute troglodyte behavior

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VeilOfReality 3 points ago +3 / -0

It depends on your goals. Short term investing? That's a big risk. If you're going to buy and hold as a hedge (which I've been doing since $20 for silver and around $3k for gold), then yes. There is too much volatility right now and obvious market manipulation for someone like me to know either way if you're looking for short term returns. The fundamentals show that silver and gold should be worth way more, but market makers are able to keep fundamentals divorced from price action for a loooong time

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VeilOfReality 4 points ago +4 / -0

Gold is speculated on, but it is a real, tangible asset with both industrial and historical use. Gold's price (and silver moreso) has been artificially suppressed which is why you saw this price soar, but the price can't be allowed to actually catch up to the relative rarity of the material or it would harm the entire financial system. Additionally, price increases correspond to dollar weakness, as one would expect. Bitcoin dumped like 30+% because less than .1% of the supply was sold. These situations are not remotely comparable in the realm of speculation.

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