Public note: Here are the original contents of this deleted post by u/Neo1.
- There are several existing posts about discussions on the moderation in this forum.
Thisisnotanexit has provided them here:
Here are the posts that (I'm aware) currently relate to this topic:
https://communities.win/c/Meta/p/1ARK0LXq6i/cconspiracies-has-had-no-active-/c
https://communities.win/c/Conspiracies/p/1ARK0NmhL7/cconspiracies-has-had-no-active-/c
https://communities.win/c/Conspiracies/p/1ARK0No4Rw/does-the-community-want-more-act/c
https://communities.win/c/Conspiracies/p/1ARK0RBc7L/community-question-your-response/c
- Also, we are silenced in this site in Trending, as Graphenium noticed.
This causes many issues, as we can't attract new people in this forum, our topics are not getting the fair attention as they deserve, and if we're shadowbanned, I think we need to know why… don't you?
There are posts with 1 upvote in there, but none of ours is - https://communities.win/c/trending
- Please help this community to have active moderation. We have trolls, shills, and this is making us only work for ourselves… We have no community effort. And do you know what the enemy has?
Community… fkin… effort…
We had those round table posts and Graphenium tried to make this happen again. I think we would all benefit from good moderation and combining our efforts.
Some of you participated already in the discussion. But if you want a community effort, and fair moderation, as well as mods selected by you personally… Please review the links and answer there with your choices.
Now, it's clear for me that I want to vote for Graphenium and Thisisnotanexit as mods… But there are others, who offered themselves as mods, and I just want to be sure when we choose, so we can select our mods and make this place according to our wants.
Please take some time to help this community to become better than it currently is… And we currently are just pushing for our own topics… We need a common goal!
I'm looking at you u/pkvi and u/ThirdEyeVision … Where are your applications to become mods? I think that the more mods are selected, then we have more ideas on how to move forward as a group… And we need bright minds!!!!
Sorry, if I miss someone, who has proven their potential to take this community to the next level. Please take some time to reply in the posts that Thisisnotanexit has compiled out of his free will.
No need to reply to this post, and you can make posts of your own with your wants and needs about this community, or just present why you think you're a proper mod for this community.
We need mods! And when the voting happens, I don't want you to miss it.
Please help this community to become better - any ideas are appreciated!
infers self-promoters are slimes
promotes self as "approver" of roundtables and modmaker
Woo hoo, look who knows so much.
I recall there being discussion about how we didn't need mods to get roundtables going and anybody could do it, but now you want a position of giving prior approval to do something that previously could be done by anyone without prior approval?
The irony thickens.
But retard finder is discredited, new meme needed.
u/Neo1 did threaten to start his own forum, and he could anytime in 30 seconds, and he could have anyone's advice if he wanted to get it off the ground right with the right clicks in those 30 seconds, so I guess he said something he didn't mean. Again.
Let's get back to conspiracy-theorizing. Wouldn't it be fitting for a cabal to send one shill to get people's attention indirectly to the weakness of a forum targeted for takeover to get the regulars active, then to infiltrate it with other contrary shills, with the purpose of making the regulars look stoopid for trying to help by criticizing them as soon as they do what they've been doing before? Great idea.
I have faith in God and the community to be able to expose attempts to overthrow it and to persevere in making the world better via fairness and transparency. Whether my offhand theory is right or not, and whether we get mod action or not, that will happen, but for some communities there is a period of captivity. Vibes are good here but God has not told me to use big guns.
For now, I counsel cool emotions, factual corrections, and brevity (that last mostly to myself).
Oh, this one is rich. I just called out your alt reporting in your new thread. You're having an untimely case of overreporting for someone who wants a mod.
The last time I called out two similar people as alts, on a different platform, I lived to regret it as there was no reason for me to: in fact I was actually seeking the rest of the community's approval by being "helpful" but actual lost trust over it. I learned that there are true tells that are widely accepted by regulars and there are similarities of focus where the community will beat you up for getting in the way of good content from multiple accounts.
Have you ever played Among Us? Because you're losing it.
My reply to u/Neo1 is:
I did promote myself and thought I had his approval to do so when he said he wouldn't be likely to be the mod, but when he withdrew his approval I stopped making light of myself. I am compelled to disagree with his idea that moderating a living Scored community for 5 years is doing nothing.
He also bites you for being helpful and actually being the most active person to directly answer his concern, by your hosting two roundtables proactively, which I answered separately.
I love this part:
I would be more willing to elect a person, who was constantly active and didn't care about this mod vote... A person, who actually cares about the community, and not just to promote themselves... Are there any such people left in here?
With his psychological experience he is somehow self-unaware of the irony of asking a person to promote himself who doesn't promote himself. It's also reflectively ironic to ask someone to promote someone else when Neo is busy accusing people like you of being alts. But there can be no vote unless someone promotes himself or someone else. What a crowning illogic of all the ironies I've seen today, which is saying a lot.
The "good intention" to make this place better is lauded; it's also bog-standard and barebones. Looking forward to him rising above.
By any chance, Neo, are you only using the conspiracies.win domain and remaining blissfully unaware that it's a subset of the whole scored.co domain?
Here's a Graph history. He's a Scored regular of 5+ years.
You jumped with significant malice on both him and me in the OP and elsewhere because we both tried to support your original request but not in the way you seem to have wanted. You bit helpful hands. You wanted the forum revived, we came to revive it as we think best, we also produce pretty good content and fight drama, but that's not good enough for you, but you don't propose an alternative. Whatever.
Thank God, someday you'll stop the attack.
I did, and I thought I had your approval to do so when you said you wouldn't be likely to be the mod, but when you withdrew your approval I stopped making light of myself. I am compelled to disagree with your idea that moderating a living Scored community for 5 years is doing nothing.
Powermod is for people who want to tyrannize; I make my communities open to community decision about moderation (including getting rid of me) and so what I did was called landrush.
u/Graphenium is an honest inquirer building Christian gnosis. He likes Gospel of Thomas and Tao te Ching and his bete noires are predictable if you stick around.
Obviously anybody here can be anybody, which is why I remind people that I'm a volunteer publicly accountable to Scott Lively, who will be happy to take your email about me.
We've been over this. Jesus is repeated called a Jew in Scripture and King of the Jews. Jesus's mother and adoptive father gave him all the rights of Jews, which all flow from one of those two sources. God the Father is all being so all meaningful titles (such as "Jew", praiser) ultimately have their root in him. And Thessalonians means clearly that some of the Jews participated in his death, but was written by a Jew to Jews to avoid what other Jews had done. You don't get anywhere by repeating tropes and refusing to define your words or interact with objective definitions. (As I point out, it makes you look more like a Jewish shill and not a Catholic because your facts are so wrong and contrary to magisterium.)
You've now demonstrated why I don't call it that, and why you shouldn't in Christ. Plus this is not that.
u/Graphenium and I have a 5-year friendship, with occasional fun strong disagreements. But I don't care who likes me because my life is hid in Jesus Christ. He knows that, which is why he values my agreement and disagreement both, and I his. So it may offend you that it doesn't matter to me if it offends you. (As your brother, I will in the Lord do my duty to seek to resolve any offense you want to have heard, but it's also not my duty to agree with you that I should necessarily handle your alleged offense in any particular way.)
Jesus didn't say that of Jews then or now. Who killed them off such that there are zero survivors and zero continuity with the present people who show genealogical continuity with the past people when asked?
I know exactly any trap u/Graphenium may lay, my fren. In the prior threads I debunked the data pretty heavily (searchable if you like), but in this one since he wanted it as a roundtable I laid off from being quite so critical.
I find that God always is in any symbol before the devil can corrupt it. God put the stars in place, he calls the primary ones the Mazzaroth in the AV, and that includes what became known as the 48 constellations of the zodiac. He tells Job that the stars have specific functions, specifically the belt of what we call Orion, and others. The astronomical fact that the New Age plays off of is that the vernal sunrise takes place in Aquarius (is cusping there from Pisces over the next couple hundred years, it being a general period not making it less significant); and that we had three previous eras of about 2,000 years of Taurus, then Aries, then Pisces for the same vernal sunrise. This has a match to God's stated purposes for these eras and also to indications he works in millennial eras, this being the beginning of the seventh millennium. So I redirect the New Age stuff to points like that.
It might interest you both to be refreshed that the four constellations at cardinal points, Scorpius (as a winged serpent), Leo (lion), Taurus (bull), Aquarius (waterman), correspond to tribal affiliations of the four cardinal tribes among the twelve, which also (with eagle meaning winged serpent) correspond to the vision of Ezekiel 1 and to the four gospels traditionally symbolized as four aspects of Jesus's ministry. Matthew bull means Servant, Mark lion means King, Luke man means Son of Man, John eagle means Son of God. Let's look up the other one: Num. 2 has Judah east, Reuben south, Ephraim of Joseph west, Dan north, and Gen. 49 has Reuben waterman, Judah lion, Dan serpent, and Joseph only "strength" for the bull; but Deut. 33 has Joseph bull. This means that when the congregation camped, if they used tribal banners corresponding to their corresponding blessings, they would mimic on earth the shape of the zodiac in heaven.
Interesting to me, though, the order is not exactly the same; which suggests that the correspondence is not a map but an indication of paradigms that have some flexibility. For application it appears intended that God wants us to have an understanding of four paradigmatic personality types and roles indicated by these symbols, which can be expanded to twelve when detail is needed, and that these roles also form a sequence in the order of salvation (just as Virgo plays a role in Rev. 12 and seems to start the narrative cycle): serpent for sin, man for humility, bull for service, lion for reign.
The idea that the constellations can be used narratively as paradigms is wholly consonant with Scripture. Astrologers have so warped our understanding of the narrative that we forget that God put it there in the first place and abrogate our right to reclaim the zodiac for his original purposes. (In particular, by placing creation and flood as bookmarks in the key time of Taurus, the tribulation/rapture might be indicated in this key time of the beginning of Aquarius. That part I affirm, but I've pointed out the failure of science to demonstrate the validity of any of the other dates Graph bends over backwards for. In fact, with the irregularity of his schedule, it might be argued that he is more likely to predict the present to yield a nothingburger or an extinction than it is to yield an awakening, but on the young-earth schedule it's a certainty to yield an awakening to anyone who desires. So I don't know why he sticks with the weaker and corrupting version if that's his goal.)
The other part is clearly special pleading. Two hours to say the "lion" points east. That means he does look at whatever constellation has the vernal sunrise, but it's 100% silly IMHO to backdate him six thousand years just so that he can look at Leo when he's built. And only in spring. Equally silly to say he shoulda been a bull because he was looking at Taurus. And only in spring. That's arguing against facts, not from them. And ultimately, yes, the New Age throws out inconvenient facts because their purpose is not actually the promotion of some lion narrative but the actual destruction of the facts in people's minds by confusion, obfuscation, and manipulation. Raising consciousness via impotence. Graph is very tenacious, so you feel free to see if you can shake him off a mantra, but on this one I've said plenty and will hold off on slamming it further unless there's interest (this comment may already slam too much).
Facts are important in matters of law, Joe.
The Federal Reserve Board is a private entity whose members are appointed by presidents. The twelve Federal Reserve Banks are private entities. They are not foreign-owned, but you may mean that foreigners hold a majority portion of the US public debt.
The IRS is an agency of the Treasury Department that expanded from its first commission in 1862. The Fed, the IRS, and the income tax are Constitutional both according to the Supreme Court and according to the common man's reading of the statutes. The nature of the scheme behind them is slightly complex and so I don't comment on the details without evidence of interest.
Do you mean you get penalized if you gained income and didn't report it? That is true but if no gain is involved there is no duty to report income. The question I asked is about, if digital currency increases in value to me, what triggers the duty to report that? You appear unaware of US tax law, and you might be in for quite the awakening if you were interested.
Your answer was mistaken on two counts. If the government withheld money on your behalf and owes you, that is not a trigger of duty to report, you could just ignore it. That is a big part of the scheme, convince workers to give up federal withholding and then feel good about getting part of it back maybe. During the War of 1812 when Congress considered an income tax they realized it would be silly to collect and pay out the same money and voted against it, but they got greedier later.
Secondly, owing money cannot be a trigger of duty because you don't owe the money until you self-assess that it is owed, which self-assessment is the filing of the return itself. (If someone else assesses, it's because you missed the first trigger.) So I invite you to think about what actual event triggers the duty to file a return, which any accountant can tell you. It's not the purchase or sale of digital currency, nor withholding, nor a statement of debt, but you are free to keep playing.
u/Graphenium doesn't loathe me (not "loath"); psychologically he just bristles because I'm asserting myself in a region he's done well in for so long. We have many good commonalities. Psychologically I like to explain things.
Is that how you call it in America?
I don't. I might say sycophant, myrmidon, minion, lackey, stooge, sockpuppet, yesman, drudge, hanger-on, or remora. But I do say "what you call it" (not "how").
It's not a brigade to try to downvote someone six times in a row, that's the point. Especially when they can slide content a lot more than six times in a row.
Who coined this term “Two-Seed movement”?
The concept was coined by Valentinus, ca. 150. Daniel Parker published a Two Seeds book in 1826.
the Celtic Church which was the second assembly after Jerusalem
It's a beautiful church and I see that Gildas puts the founding of the insular church before 37. The second church assembly mentioned by Luke seems to be Samaria in the same decade. So I won't quibble the pious opinion, but I am bookmarking it and noting the legend. You might be interested in my [Celtic praises series](https://communities.win/search?query=celtic praise&community=christianity&sort=old).
I only dialog with people without an agenda.
No agenda but Jesus!
It is unfortunate that we have to fight back on their terms, probably at 10x their effort.
cue zerg rush
Speaking for Will exactly is impossible, but I inferred that he does not post because that would be initiating ("suggesting"), which is not in the flow of life. But responding ("taking inspiration") is in the flow of life.
If taken as historical etymology, it's often false, but he doesn't intend it that way; it's meant, like all good symbolization, to resonate correspondence via similarity. Just like a pun. Since he doesn't advertise it as historical etymology, it's left for people to take it as they ... will.
Today about 40% of Joe's content is barely tolerable as to accuracy and neutrality, it's like he's peaking for the weekend. Your characterization seems off.
u/Graphenium, for some reason I believe Neo1 has an inexplicable habit of turning on people even as they're trying to be supportive and interactive with him. Oh wait, maybe I found the explanation, it's because he happens "to know so much psychology". In America we call that HS AP. Best ignore that trait and work around it. No offense.
Heh heh. You are pitting me into an argument with Grok, complete with emojis!, when my words are actually for humans to parse their paradoxes.
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Does not contradict my point. But: "There has been much debate over the precise correlation between the Western calendars and the Long Count calendars. The August 11 [-3113] date is based on the GMT correlation." The December 21 exact date is dependent on the same unresolved debate. [Add: The Julian date table gives 27 possible dates and Dec 21 corresponds to no expert's opinion but a compromise of three experts; Goodman yields Dec 18, Martinez-Hernandez Dec 20, and Thompson Dec 22 or 23.] Grok then declines to refute claims under Mystics or Consciousness.
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(a) Does not contradict the statement "80% of the [CERN] goal is to work privately on control, such as black hole mining". Obviously private control is a corollary of fundamental physics research. People used to call this the Large Hardon Collider. (b) Hawking radiation is the way black holes are mined for particles. The control comes from the knowledge gained by the enhanced ability to experiment. (c) A symbol of creation and destruction obviously symbolizes the power to control via those routes.
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(a) I approved the chronovisor as a concept under that wonky name, not as a particular instantiation. I also linked the official disclosure and did not say it was necessary from a military office (as that term sometimes implies). As documented in the history of SwampRangers.com, I share my office with Trump, so that should be official enough for humans. (b) Unrelated hallucination of something possibly similarly named.
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Does not contradict because it assumes I spoke of alteration of real timeline and refers to the majority of studied cases of Mandela Effect without validating if those provide a universal explanation. Both Orwellian and "programmer" (manipulator) rewrites have to do with the production and propagation of althist, which is an ordinary human process of comparing and selecting among narratives, but which gets out of hand when pursued by powerful multipronged campaigns, as is pretty well the understood baseline here. The Mandela Effect arises when false propaganda is believed, changing the perceived timeline but not the real one. Grok then skips Reincarnation.
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Does not contradict. The map projection problem causes different maps, which lead to a perception of "change" when compared one to another. Tectonic plate movement usually happens at a slow rate, but earthquakes and river redirections create phenomena that do literally change maps in years, sometimes in mudbank regions more frequently than annually. That's to say nothing of ICR's deluge research. Nothing about UFOs.
So in this surprise test it looks like I passed 4/9 categories cleanly without comment and the other 5/9 were mostly misdirected criticism. There are a couple points where my wording could've been improved. I'll play the game when it's fun. HTH.
No, actually Jesus says they're not Jews who are doing the lying. You do take Jesus's word for it, right?
It's true that those who operate any synagogue of satan (Gentile or Jew) will worship God before us, by choice or force; the link shows it first happened in 108. So you have a good point, I just provide counterpoint.
Thank you Joe for agreeing we need reasonable definitions of violations like spam. Your statement, which was false as I disputed, doesn't look like spam, but 20 posts on the Fed alone in an hour would be. If exact boundaries need to be set by the mod, that can be done, but in my experience rules of thumb work better, i.e. definitions with slight leeway. Spam is a TOS violation because TOS include forum rules, which deprecate spam two different ways.
My downvotes were sticking until I went over limit with someone, I won't say who. The rest were sticking.
I upvote him when he's reasonable, I know that's not disproof of your assertion though.
Thanks dude. I do recall now that he and I had what I thought was a minor scrape at c/Christianity. I could probably find it filed around the time he started c/TrueChristianity. It was much the same as what's happening now. It would be ironic if you were in it also and now he disowns knowing you .... anyway probably little need be said. As I said to myself.
Add: 42 unanswered messages in a few hours because I've been refreshing the Comments feed, probably my record for that.
Add: Best added here, I think two successive posts in two hours calling out the same user for the same allegation is excessive, unnecessary, and bullying meta posting. Sorry to see you're getting hit. Back to my suggestion that the community follow objectively defined promulgated rules. And back to my conspiracy theory that the rulebreakers form a group that pursues the same object even as they change their personalities one to another. The enemy wants to destroy Lex Rex at all times.