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Graphenium 9 points ago +9 / -0

Yay - surprised by the response

Perhaps a middle ground would satisfy more of us - no more than one flat earth topic per user per day (or perhaps something like “no contextless links to FE shit, submission/relevance statements required”

I’m sure if you asked “should we let people post msm articles about trump” all the free speech absolutists would change their tune, but who knows

Edit - frankly I could go either way on banning individual topics, I think what would be preferable is just instituting some kind of “low quality posts will be removed, in a transparent and appealable way” blanket approach. Because the problem isn’t really “flat earth” in and of itself, it’s forum sliding and subterfugic implosion of real discussion. Even if the topic got banned, the real shills would just switch to another topic like “loli” freedom of speech (seen a few discussions on that on other wins like KiA and gaming) or some other equally ridiculous bullshit and the “useful idiots” would start bleeting about chinese spy balloons or whatever the shiny thing that week was

¯_(ツ)_/¯

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Graphenium 2 points ago +2 / -0

Do you prefer things from a western or eastern perspective?

Western: check out Energy Work by Robert Bruce he’s got a great “system” that he explains well through “tactile imagery”

Eastern: check out Qi-Gong Empowerment: A Guide to Medical, Taoist, Buddhist, and Wushu Energy Cultivation by Liang and Wu

Should be PDFs of both at your digital library of choice. I went through both at the same time, which was an interesting experience in its own right.

Likewise I’ll always recommend The Magus of Java on this subject, an excellent merging of West and East as a Greek mechanical engineer seeks out and trains under John Chang (from the video I always link) for 10 years, relaying his experiences and the lessons he had managed to learn.

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Graphenium 2 points ago +2 / -0

The palms have been long known (by those with eyes and ears, in this case mainly the Eastern traditions) to act as “energy” exchange centers.

Have you ever done “energy circuit” or “energy ball” exercises (“Horse Stance” if you’ve studied the eastern schools)?

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Graphenium 2 points ago +2 / -0

The only guy I’ve ever been convinced was capable of what gets called “magic” was a Christian with a Taoist philosophy of life who healed many thousands of people without ever charging. The only reason we know about him was he felt a responsibility to ensure this knowledge was preserved with the coming (in his time, it’s basically here now) shift of the ages. What you share / that guy claims makes sense for sure.

(If you’re interested in the guy I mention:)

https://communities.win/c/HumanPotential/p/141rVOZOu0/perhaps-the-most-important-video/c

And you may be interested similarly in the other posts on there (I’d love to see your own and others’ contributions, even if you’re just linking to posts you’ve made elsewhere!)

c/HumanPotential

Edit) Weird, my links keep breaking today - I think it’s because I’m linking to both individual posts and whole .wins

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Graphenium 2 points ago +2 / -0

I find a lot of interesting Christian discussion here, c/Christianity, and sometimes on c/ConsumeProduct

Which is good, because r*ddit has been unusable for me for the last 4-5 years.

But yeah, there really is so much there, so it’s so disingenuous of some (atheists) to dismiss it out of hand, and to a lesser extent the dogmatists who dismiss everything but their interpretations. It’s one thing to believe strongly in what you’ve come to think to be true - that’s a great thing - but it’s another thing entirely to close yourself off to everything else because more often than not you’ll miss out on even greater truths

Some of these older posts might be interesting to you:

https://communities.win/c/Christianity/p/12i3ug0dDN/the-literal-bible/c

https://communities.win/c/Christianity/p/12hkr8RTa1/what-is-going-on-with-the-echoed/c

https://communities.win/c/Conspiracies/p/12hkhql2aC/the-tree-of-life-motif-appears-t/c

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Graphenium 2 points ago +2 / -0

Ok - I’ve wasted 40+ hours on tv shows and games before so for information of this importance I’ll try to pencil it in lol, thanks!

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Graphenium 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yknow, somehow even after a decade+ of general interest and seeking, I’ve never done a dive into Mystery Babylon and Bill Cooper (despite its obviously massive influence on the “conspiracy” discussion). I remember once finding a (massive) archive of all his radio broadcasts, but do you have anything that’s like an overview of his research or maybe a documentary or something? It’s just a little daunting to dive into some 400(?) hour experience, which is probably why I’ve put it off so long lol.

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Graphenium 2 points ago +2 / -0

Interesting take on circumcision -

and now that you mention it, i can see a fair bit of overlap between the ancient “Mystery Schools” (which have their earliest recorded appearance in Egypt but could [and likely do] date even earlier) and MKUltra, namely the use of psychedelics under circumstances that are controlled and directed by someone else for “initiation”, use of symbolism as some kind of “mental code” which can be triggered or lie dormant, crazy amounts of secrecy and gradations of knowledge/initiation “lest the rabble discover our designs”, probably others too... very interesting indeed!

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Graphenium 2 points ago +2 / -0

believe this is one of the things to come out of all the psychological experiments the CIA did (MK Ultra etc).

Agreed, or atleast, MKUltra spread this information (since realistically this pattern has been used for a long time, even prior to the formation of america)

I think the key point is Trauma-based mindkontrol/brainwashing. In an individual you can cause the trauma by torturing them physically, and psychologically, and pharmacologically (the LSD experiments), and even spiritually.

Where it gets even crazier is when you see this effect on the collective consciousness. Every false flag perpetuates this state of fear and trauma - from the Pearl Harbor FF, to the JFK/RFK false flags, to 9/11, to coofvid 19, and on to the next one.

You could even paint much of the “hellfire preaching” of the past in a similar light of trauma-induced mind control.

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Graphenium 1 point ago +1 / -0

Because my humor lacks an official canon, I can neither confirm nor deny its presence, as it could change at any time due to any person writing a “commentary” about it!

LMFAO

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Graphenium 2 points ago +2 / -0

One possibility is the idea of the “magical” or “Enochian” language:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enochian

If “spelling & grammar” became “spells and grimoires” - maybe the idea of an “original” language that “facilitated magic” (don’t ask me how lol) isn’t so far fetched

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Graphenium 1 point ago +1 / -0

KekW, I didn’t say I’m a taoist, but there’s nothing more annoying than people speaking authoritatively on shit they don’t have the first iota of knowledge on

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Graphenium 1 point ago +1 / -0

Thus in Christianity today, you have the same issue as Taoism.

So you think it’s a problem in taoism because there “isn’t a canon” (there is, for the 5th time, it’s called “the Tao te Ching”. Full stop.)

And you also think it’s a problem in Christianity, even with their (various) canon(s).

So what the fuck is your point even? You frankly don’t have one which is why I might seem annoyed by your comments lmao

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Graphenium 1 point ago +1 / -0

Maybe you don’t know, but the DSS contain the book of Enoch, which is only included in the Ethiopian Orthodox Canon.

I guess they were right and everyone else was wrong huh? That’s how canons work right? Lmfao

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Graphenium 1 point ago +1 / -0

Oy vey, I guess Dan Brown novels tell the UNFILTERED TRUTH about Christianity huh?!?

You’re the one advancing the retarded fucking notion, not the people selling books on Amazon lol

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Graphenium 1 point ago +1 / -0

Because Taoism doesn't, any later commentary can have as almost much authoritative weight as the original.

Wrong.

Taoism = Tao Te Ching

A single book.

If I said “taoism is about monkeys with unicorn horns”, that doesn’t mean anything and only a fucking retard would say “well I guess the lack of a canon and official body makes THAT TRUE

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Graphenium 2 points ago +2 / -0

Hey man, I’ve likewise enjoyed much of what I’ve seen you post, if my comments have come accros as rude, it’s only because, idk, it “hurts” to see someone who can otherwise come to rational and interesting conclusions coming to such a faulty one in this case.

I know exactly what you’re talking about in terms of the rank selfishness we can observe in some aspects of modern chinese culture, but I think it actually comes from a source which is in opposition to taoism, namely confucianism (made worse by the depravation endured under communism). Here are a few paragraphs which I think should help explain what I mean:

Generally speaking, whereas Daoism embraces nature and what is natural and spontaneous in human experience, even to the point of dismissing much of China’s advanced culture, learning, and morality, Confucianism regards human social institutions—including the family, the school, the community, and the state—as essential to human flourishing and moral excellence, because they are the only realm in which those achievements, as Confucius conceived them, are possible.

https://www.britannica.com/story/what-is-the-difference-between-daoism-and-confucianism

Mozi tried to replace what he considered to be the long-entrenched Chinese ideal of strong attachments to family and clan structures with the concept of "impartial caring" or "universal love" (兼愛, jiān ài). He argued directly against Confucians, who had philosophized that it was natural and correct for people to care about different people in different degrees. Mozi, in contrast, argued that people in principle should care for all people equally, a notion that philosophers in other schools found absurd, as they interpreted this notion as implying no special amount of care or duty towards one's parents and family.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozi

Honestly, I see where you’re coming from, I just think you’ve set your targets on the wrong thing.

Please, give the tao te ching a glance when you’ve got a minute. I guarantee, the last thing you’ll find is justification for selfishness:

https://en.m.wikisource.org/wiki/Translation:Tao_Te_Ching

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Graphenium 2 points ago +2 / -0

Taoism, as an experiential philosophy, actively rejects the unquestioned validity of any “commentary” or later work. Thus, unlike with papal edicts, the “official story” can’t change, because there is no official story. That’s the point.

Besides, to which Unassailable Christian Canon do you refer? The Catholic (including the diadeche)? The Mormon? The Ethiopian?

The Ethiopians got it right, according to the Dead Sea Scrolls.

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Graphenium 7 points ago +7 / -0

I know Robert Sepehr, on youtube, talks a lot about this (Rh- factor, genetic lineage, nephilim, lost tribes, etc):

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ls_ZtM1Itzs

But I’ve never seen anything about “project Oaktree” before, sorry

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