Here, at least, you could just block bots and parrots and have some decent people to talk with, with their own original theories and thougts who may not agree with you but have a decent and their own arguments and thoughts.
There always will be less people with original thoughts than those who just parrot some narrative. It is up to you to filter them, and that should not be hard if you account yourself as a person who able to generate original thoughts.
Speaking about all hardcore conspiracy things you talk about, as UFO/crytpozoology and so on, it is hard to somehow evolve when you have no any new information. It is senseless to discuss some old unverified crap again and again or just speculate for the sake of speculation. If you have some verifiable new information on the topics you want to see - then share with class, we will gladly discuss that and create some new theories.
Funny, but if you look close to the whole coronahoax thing, than you will see that it is exactly cryptozoology conspiracy in the nutshell. All that build around a creature (not really creature, since viruses are not alive), that possibly could exist and some tell they saw it, but can't present any proofs of their claim. You have a governments and corporations who build an extraodinary conspiracy around that cryptocreature. You have wistleblowers who shed some light on that conspiracy around cryptocreature. And so on. And it is much bigger than anything around another cryptocreatures like bigfoot or Nessie. If you are not able to recognize SARS-CoV-2 as obvious and may be greatest cryptocreature ever, then your claim looks very weak.
And you could find here completely original theories on that huge cryptozoology conspiracy you never heard about.
Information is hard to find today. So you need some efforts to get it. That should not be hard for the person who deem himself as critical thinker, and honestly, I think it is even a positive thing that works like a filter against those who want entertainment from such places instead of doing the job of connecting dots.
Much more interesting question is why Canada imports Russian steel and aluminium in the first place?
Canada is nearly as reach as Russia in most resources, definitely including all needed to produce steel and aluminium. Climate is the same. All technologies are well known. So what the fuck?
Why should anybody want to do it?
If you allow selling of your strategic factories for the sake of money/investments/capitalism/whatever, then you get this.
Don't really care about fuckchekers vomit, but
Jesse Helms, a former North Carolina Senator and opponent of gay and civil rights who once said: "Nothing positive happened to Sodom and Gomorrah and nothing positive is likely to happen to America if our people succumb to the drumbeats of support for the homosexual lifestyle"
Looks like that Jesse Helms was right.
Exactly. They tried to do it during coronahoax (you could contract illness through banknotes!!!), but for whatever reason drop that narrative soon, so everything about cash returned to regular state. And now I'm not aware about any other attempts to push any narrative to discredit cash. And bank runs is definitely not one of them. Will be interesting to see how they will do that.
So again, it is on the elites to do something with cash, from their side - stop to accept it, declare it void, banned or whatever, not on citizens.
As for financial collapse, I think it will be interesting to check if elites already quit different financial assets to determine if they are doing collapse or just fucked up.
Collapse of financial system is not necessary a collapse of mean of exchange. If most people for whatever reason will trust cash dollar along with not trusting banks, only financial system will collapse.
It is more likely for gold coins, but I could imagine that paper could survive too if there is some culturally backed believe in banknotes as a symbol of something.
There are examples in history when old banknotes continue to circulate to some extent even after complete collapse of financial system or even state disappearance.
So, you suppose that elites will start some propaganda about unsafe cash soon?
But it's too late. It's like with toilet paper - sheeple already buying it out, and every attempt of elites to stop them will be seen as an attempt to deprive them from that so necessary toilet paper, so they will rush to buy even more.
Rush buying toilet paper is already started. Nothing could be done, except selling out as much toilet paper as possible, untill sheeple calm down.
Yes but how did they come to want masks?
Obviously by propaganda. But that propaganda was first, only then comes sheeple desire. Propaganda first, desire then. Sequence in another order will not work even on sheeple.
They have to be propagandised first about unsafety of cash, then they will agree that cash is unsafe and should be replaced by CBDC or not given out by banks. They will not think that cash is unsafe because banks don't want give it to them. They obviously will think that banks is unsafe to keep their money. And "money" are associated with cash among sheeple for now. Funny, but sheeple really think that it is real cash kept somwhere in bank and when they use their card they spend their cash that is stored in bank.
When cash can't do those things anymore they'll happily accept whatever will
So, there should be propaganda among sellers to not to accept cash first. Not that not giving cash by banks.
While sellers accept cash (money in sheeple mind), banks that don't give sheeple cash are unsafe, not cash.
Bank runs alone in no way could convince sheeple that cash is unsafe. Only thing sheeple will be convinced is that banks are unsafe.
Many sheeple don't use cash for a long time. Phone app connected to card account is more than enough for them. But when they see that there is a shortage of cash - they run for it, just because everybody run. Just like with toilet paper.
If I want to get rid of cash, I'll just make it freely available at any amount, but uncomfortable to use, say, print only $100 banknotes and collect all old banknotes of lower value. So, if some sheeple will want to use cash he will get a problem with change. Cash is here, nobody limit sheeple with it, but it is very annoying to carry a tons of coins as change. So, there will be no any cash deficit, that drives sheeple to rush obtaining, but sheeple will completely stop to use it, willingly by their own decision. And then, nobody will care about cash ban at all, since it is already unuseable and so not necessary. Simple as fuck, and no even need for propaganda.
So, no I don't think bank runs is a way of banning cash. I think it is just another fuckup of elites, nothing more.
They've succeeded in pushing illogical narratives for a very long time.
When it comes to things sheeple want, they are pretty logical. If sheeple want mask, it will kill for it. If sheeple want cash it will kill for it too.
Again, to do what you supose they first need to push a narrative that cash is not safe, and only then ban it or do that things with banks not giving cash. While sheeple want cash it is insane to try to not give it for them.
"Cash is bad" first, "We don't giving you cash anymore" then. Not otherwise.
How that could be not clear?
The banks don't have nearly enough cash on hand
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This could cause them all to default, making people's existing accounts worthless.
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That is just one way to show cash is unsafe
It's like some brick wall. How, please, explain me you produce such sequence?
Banks don't have cash, but it is cash that unsafe, not banks.
I could believe that insane elites could somehow push that narrative, but there is no way they will succeed. Even sheeple will not agree with such thought flow. If you don't give a donut to a sheeple, it is not a donut that bad, it's you who do not give it to sheeple. They could swallow cash ban for whatever reason, say for democracy and freedom, I think, but will never accept the idea that donuts they do not receive are bad or cash thay can't withdraw is unsafe. They will always guilt those who have to give them wanted donut or cash.
To make that happen there should be narrative that cash is bad in principle. Then, sheeple could accept that cash is bad and stop wanting it. But if they still want it, this will not work.
IDK how to explain better - if sheeple think that he need cash and bank did not give him cash, it will be unsafe bank, not cash. So they have to convince sheeple that cash is unsafe in the first place and only then do bank runs or whatever. Not in reverse order - use bank runs as a proof that cash is unsafe.
It is like elites run before the locomotive. Doing things in wrong order.
As far as I understand, first impulse for most people who will hear that their money is no longer safe in banks will be to withdraw cash from their accounts, not wait for CBDC.
Only way to stop that is to ban cash now. So, they will have to ban cash before implementing CBDC? And if they ban cash, then what will be the need for CBDC then? Bank account credentials could be perfectly stored in the same chip whithout any need for CBDC.
level of complexity far beyond going to a bank machine
If machines, suddenly, for whatever reason will not have a cash in them, level of complexity of card withdrawal will rise a lot. In Russia that was not rare thing in 90s - you had to know somebody from the bank who will tell you when and what ATM will be filled with cash. Level of complexity is exactly the same as with underground CBDC excahnge.
Most people are not setup to use such configurations and likely won't.
Most people will gladly play that game with CBDC, Social Credit and whatever shit they tell them is cool today.
And most people do not discuss the threats of CBDC as we do.
So, it is not about most people. It is about us. And I don't see how CBDC will be different from current card/bank accounts for us.
This will allow every token to be tracked, and potentially invalidated in the future if a user performs a non-authorised operation.
Valid point, but I can't figure out real-world example. Say, some conspiracy theorist paid $1 CBDC for groceries in dad&mom shop, they paid $10 CBDC using that "bad" $1 CBDC for car replacement part, then that bad $1 CBDC was paid as salary to a worker that made that spare part. Then government find out that first person is a conspiracy theorist and disable his $1 CBDC. So completely innocent worker of spare parts plant who wear pride parade pin and have a trans as a best friend will lose $1 CBDC he honestly earned working hard.
Weird.
And, meanwhilem same thing could be done with cash. Government could declare that $10 banknotes with numbers from XXXXXX to XXXXYY was used in some bad activity and so no longer valid.
To do the same thing with card/bank account will be more tricky - currently you can't determine where $1 on your account you paid somewhere come from.
If you want just to alter money somebody own currently, there are no difference between CBDC and card/bank account and even cash, if you somehow know numbers of banknotes.
So yes, your point is valid, but what is the real-word use of that feature?
You can have conference calls on a phone line.
Only if your station support that. And conference calls are just connecting several lines of several users together instead of lines of two users, nothing close to the routed packet transmission at all.
Internet is like you already established a conference call with all existing phone users and agree with them on the keywords to use to talk on certain topics to certain people. Internet is more like ham radio than phone line, but divided into regions with repeaters to retranslate packets destined to another regions.
Meanwhile, yesterday, Tucker as a guest of Redacted, told exactly about importance of WTC7 question and ability to ask that question and how he was wrong at the time.
Either something changing in some parts of MSM, like they trying to hijack some undeniable conspiracy theories to head them later in necessary direction, or we will witness how Tucker will be evantually thrown out. :)
Whatever. Tucker being from the circles of interest and occasionally speaking out some tiny but interesting bits about that circles for whatever reason is at least entertaining against the background of empty and boring regular liars of MSM. :)
The more often I perform this exchange the more attention I will draw.
How is that different from bank account receiving money from many other bank accounts as payments for some service? They also perfectly draw attention, taxed and whatever. But behind payments for some innocent service you could easily find crypto exchange, drug dealer, black goldseller or whatever.
I still don't get how that will suddenly become completely different with CBDC.
Blockchain is not some fucking magic, it is just a way to store data, nothing more. Different from the regular database in implementation, but absolutely same from the point of storing data. Data determine what is stored, not the way of storing. It is like database where you can't change data if you don't have access to all private keys that ever used to add records. In case of CBDC government/CB is the only owner of the private keys ised to sign blocks, so even from the side of changing stored data such blockchain is no different from database. Governement/CentralBank could always rebuild all blockchain from the beginning with replaced data.
This non existent imaginary service is not as simple as you are making out.
There are tons of such imaginary services around. Many are even just plain swindlers, like different consulting agencies, charities, funds and so on, but they are perfectly exist for decades without any problems. As for those who are not just swindlers, what they really do behnd and what is the real purpose of payments to them one could only guess.
Since many of such imaginary services perfectly exist right now and for a long time, I assume that there is nothing complex in creating such service.
You realize the internet has been serviced for the longest time by phone lines?
Do you understand difference between routed packet data transmission concept and analogue point-to-point connections concept?
Phone line was used just for connecting of computer to internet, not as internet itself and had nothing to do with all that digital nature of IP. Phone line is just a media, like Ethernet cable or fiber, to connect computer to network, not network itself.
Phone system use completely different protocol - SS7 designed to make a direct connection between two users via different stations. Unlike Internet Protocol it was not designed and is not able to provide access to whole network simultaneously to end user.
Because there were ways to spend the usd
There always will be ways to spend some means of exchange. Whatever means of exchange will be.
With 0 ways to convert your cash back into credits.
Why anybody will need "credits"? People need things and services, not "credits".
And exchanging cash to CBDC will not be harder than vice versa. Same scheme - one who need cash just pay CBDC for some non-existing service to one who have cash and need CBDCand that's all.
How would one go on record as spending their cbdc into the mystery that would surely trigger an audit?
How "astrology prognosis" or "equity training" paid in CBDC could be "mistery"? Anybody who will question such spending of CBDC will be immidiately deprived from CBDC services!
I see no problems with organising black market with CBDC. And unquestionable wokeness of those who push CBDC gives a perfect cover up for that black market. "Hey, psst, do you want to buy Iranian reals and rump up your social score?"
I may not agree with you about theological significance of CBDC, but I appreciate idea that implementing CBDC needed for them for implementing biblical prophecy much more than weird assumption that "CBDC is necessary for them to ban cash".
So, we could add another possible explanation for CBDC - they need it for theological reasons, as a part of their relogious antichristian views.
Why do you think they can't ban cash without CBDC but somehow suddenly can with CBDC? I still can't find any reason for such conclusion.
Your ability to hit a money changer for example as your only viable mechanism would be removed in due time.
In USSR exchanging rouble to a dollar was a crime with long jail time. But there was no problems to do that if you need. That's practice, not some assumptions. Why do you think they will succeed in banning underground exchanges if even USSR authorities was unable to do that?
Can goto bank machine. Withdraw cash. Spend in unknown ways.
Can go to moneychanger. Exchange CBDC to cash. Spend in unknown ways.
What's the difference?
With cbdc it will not be possible. Every transaction will be recorded
I could easily imagine at least several ways how to do that with CBDC. All what will be recorded in CBDC blockchain is that you just paid for some innocent thing or service.
With complete surveillance of your input salary all expenditures are captured. End to end.
This feature does not currently exist.
How many people get salary in cash now? I think most get it to card/bank account. So it is already captured.
CBDC does not prevent black market/exchange and gives no advantage over card/bank account.
Russia buy transformers (not shure about exactly transformers, but whatever) from Western companies because Western companies happily agree to launder money for those who sign contracts from Russian side.
Russian whatever thing cost $50, Western cost $100, but Western company easily agree to sell whatever $100 thing for the $1000 and split the $900 of difference between Russian and Western managers. That can't be tracked by Russian tax office and that money fall on the abroad accounts of Russian swindlers out of the reach of Russian tax office or other authorities.
So you think that Canadians receive paybacks from Russian oligarchs for buying steel and aluminium through overpriced contracts and hide wealth stolen from Canadian state or business on accounts in Russian banks?