"It's an official site for gematria, what are you talking about? What site are you using, and let's compare the data
Uh......you know......that SOURCE I gave you from the get-go. THAT source. So is it that you can't actually read or are just afraid of being shown your comparative ignorance?
Go ahead.....dig in........LOL
How's the reading coming? You're a fraud. Let me know what else I can help you ignore.
No. No it won't. What a POS psyop this is.
Atomic Colliders trace the movements of subatomic elements, sometimes in collision.
Interpretations are a dime a dozen and lies about it are attempts at psychological warfare. I spoke with an 'expert' about the CERN collider as he was on his way there for whatever reason. He knew nothing about it. But I did take the time to tell him that 'No.....there is no 'God Particle', named Ganesh or otherwise and they won't be finding one either." The Ganesh/God Particle was the prior psyop in use, using CERN as 'proof'. See Dan Burish/Colonel Hamilton 'J-Rod' psyop for its inception. This is a 'time travel' psyop that wouldn't catch a single fish if there were real schools.
Re: "It's an official site for gematria, what are you talking about? What site are you using, and let's compare the data. Absolute non-argument there... Pass."
There is no 'official site for gematria' fool. And that isn't gematria. Absolute ignorance.
Yeshua is NOT an 'original name of Jesus' and you don't 'get' what is behind gematria in the first place, so you're the last to determine 'worth'.
You said 'All these religions are satanic" and I said 'All religions that use magic ritual are satanic'. There are truths in all theologies that escape you, and every theology is eventually turned into anthropromorphic literalized ritual magic religion....instead. "The church becomes the whore." as the roman catholic bible clearly confesses. An Elisha/Elijah corrects and upbraids by showing error and correction...and is seen as the enemy...every......single.....time.
Today I learn that the ancient study of the movement of the heavens and mentioned in a myriad of ways in 'the bible' was invented by Helena Blavatsky. You read Helena Blavatsky's work, or did you let a third party dictate to you? Either way, your statement is trash. Aquarius as new outpouring is exactly what is going on here, but you wouldn't know that, being ignorant of the subject.
YOU believe in a god named Lucifer. It's in the bible remember? So your bible believes in the god Lucifer. I wonder what the name Lucifer could mean. I wonder why he goes under several 'names' that count out as meaning under gematria, but you don't know that. Lucifer is material knowledge. Material knowledge by itself is profane. Hell, you don't even qualify for that....let alone the ability to discern that knowledge aka wisdom.
Blavatsky, Crowley, Mathers, Guirdjieff, et al.....were requisitioned by the cabal to do deep dive research into matters they didn't have time, energy or ability to discover. With agendas behind. Even though they are the grand poobah wizards of the cabal, they misunderstand and misrepresent much in their writings. Crowley showed the cabal that they had been fooled in the past into misreading the deck of tarot because the 'Star' card had been swapped with 'Tzaddi'. You know what the means? No you don't. First it means the the magick is weak on the dark side at this time as they give over to technology. Q is the movement to RECLAIM what has been STOLEN, including esoteric understanding. Q IS 'The Star'...as 17....Divine Inspiration.....and since it had been switched, the cabal was practicing bad 'magick' aka Satanism which is also a slightly different practice from Luciferianism. It pays to actually know/gno thine enemy. But you don't. You fear and avoid the principles they abuse. You don't get to throw me into your would-be ad hoc bucket by trying to tag ME as one I correct, and warn against.
You, as a literalist practitioner of magic are more closely akin to the Satanist and Satan is a Christian god by definition and circumstance. Both Lucifer and Jesus are said to be the 'Morning Star'......explain. No....don't even try, it'll make me laugh.
Yes you provided 'sources'......links........to 'satanic sources' LOL. You must be a satanist. Did you read them? Hell NO you didn't, you fraud.
Now you learn that 17 is The Star, not to be confused with Tsaddi, neither of which you understand...and so you don't really belong in the movement of Q/17/The Star.....as you reject the new outpouring of eternal truths.
This is like discussing Calculus with a five year old.
So I'll continue to redpill you with information and you can continue with sheer denial of something unknown, while pretending, so we can show our proper positions. Bad religion is how we got here. Raise it up to the eternal principles and you'll experience a Great Awakening instead.
Gematria isn't numerology. You attempted to use new age numerology to disprove gematria and you went to your mentor, wikipedia or google to find your prize. It doesn't accomplish your goal. Numerology is a cheap imitation of gematria. It doesn't work that way....randomly choosing words to create a sum, but you'd know that if you weren't willfully iignorant about it.
Today I learned that Yeshua has 4 letters. Count much? You sure his name isn't 'Jesus'....the hispanic spelling? How about Emmanuel? I'm trying to teach you how to count and how to spell, but you insist on playing baby games instead.
I've had a saying for decades. It goes, "Who's 'fish' Ichthys?
Answer by telling me why the fish is used as symbol and I'll bury you with the details in an ACTUAL answer that escapes you and is in that scary, intimidating pdf file you're afraid to look at.
What is the vesica pisces? A fish? Learn things. Let me know what else I can help you with.
Jesus divides the two fish among the 5000, and this is represented by drawing three perfectly interpenetrating circles, thus forming "the three worlds diagram" of Hellenistic cosmology. This gives rise to two "fish" or vesica pisces forms in the square of 5000. Each vesica has a horizonal axis which measures 61.2 units in length; together they measure 122.4 units, and 1224 is the gematria value of the Greek word FISHES. Each one of the circles has a circumference of 2 22 units, and each vesica therefore has a perimeter of 148.0 units. 1480 is the value of CHRISTOS, and the "vessel of the fish" was an early emblem of his nature. The perimeter of the square measures 282 units, and 282 is the value of the Greek word BIOS, Life, an important aspect of the Universal Logos In terms of the vertical dimensions, length AB is HERMES, AC is THE God HERMES, AD is APOLLO, and AE is THE God APOLLO. This is one small section of the explanation that also includes the 'net', the 5,000, the 'loaves' and so on, interpreting each according to their divine meaning.
In other words, the story is based upon the pre-Christian canon of Greek theology. and contains gematria and its associated divine geometry as proofs to the learned, .........not the profane 'seekers after smooth things'.
'Jesus' was said to usher the Age of Pisces. This is the Age of Aquarius. Aquarius is 'a new outpouring'. But you knew that too, huh.
This is a piece of 'Divine Geometry', as is Q/17 as Divine Inspiration that you lack to interpret or even make the move to discover. The profane won't get the significance. So Team Q knows all about these systems and use it to great success. It was a requirement to be on the team. Knowing things matters, and so the Cicada 3301 separated the wheat from the chaff to create Team Q who acts a surrogate savior until 'the one' becomes the Optic (5:5).
It isn't false because a particular literalist can't decode a commode.
Let me know how else I can raise your consciousness and redpill you on false literal theology while providing the actual information meant to be conveyed. When I was a child, I also spoke as a child. It's already past the time for all literalists to put on the bigboy pants and man up to theology rather than dogma. 'Bad Religion' is exactly how we got here. You can address me as Elisha or Elijah as each represents the same spirit in a different age.
Now throw a another fit with false assumptions.
Platitudes ABOUT knowledge is not knowledge. It doesn't relay knowledge. A platitude is a pretense of wisdom, not actual information that might prove or disprove. I offer information as proof, you offer platitudes. I hope you can grasp the difference and go back and confirm for yourself if you need it. 0 Facts. That's a zero. It didn't exist in every numeric system. Somehow, certain primitives never 'got' the concept, just as most modern man doesn't truly appreciate the difference between 1 and 0 while depending on it daily. Knowledge sure is relevant. So are the words 'research' and 'study' and 'lifelong'. Statements show position to the ascendant party every single time. You don't have the tools my fren, bow out gracefully now or risk getting red-pilled with a plethora of things you never knew. That to a real truth seeker, would be read as a positive invitation worth investigating.
As per your quote: "Well, documentaries are a better source of research than books, since books cannot deliver visual evidence as video documentaries can."
Okay. So you teach that books don't have pictures and drawings?
Re: My quote "Critique that book for me and I'll consider you a teacher."
A teacher. Not MY teacher. Worthy of being a teacher. A teacher. Not MY teacher. Unless of course you could indeed find fault and/or critique said book you didn't even attempt to read but will pretend it doesn't matter. Teachers don't teach through ignor-ance.
Re: " am so used to your way of thinking that my only solution is to find the fun things in it"
I don't have a 'way of thinking' and if I did, you wouldn't be 'used to it' just as you are ignorant of the current subject. You speak in a childish manner that should be embarrassing and will be as you go along.
I want you to give me ALL the information ABOUT gnosis that you can find, especially using gnostics as source since of course they'd know wtf they're talking about. At least some. Gnosis comes in many colors just like the coat that Joseph got as reward for being able to critique his literalist cousins' theology, separated him from his courser literalistic brothers and allowed him to interpret the Pharoah's dreams (see psychology)
How's the reading coming, pretty good?
Please help me out with this: In Greece, prior to the Christian Era, there was a word IHEOYE that translated into 'Jesus' in another language and in the system called gematria, transfigures into the number '888'. Interestingly, both the names spelling makes '888'. Questions to the teacher: Why? Why 888? Why did the Greeks have an apriory (came first) 'Jesus' in the first place? What was the Logos in Greek symbology and why did it also share the number 888? Why and how did Clement know that in music tuning theory, that .888 was considered both the logos/ratio of the whole tone, but also acted as the 'mediator' between the two tetrachords of the octave? Or why the 'octave' was 'the ogdoad' to the Essenic Gnostics from which came the Nazarites from which came the historic Jesus you call heretic. Yes, prior to the later Christian Era of Romish Catholic Crestianity, Clement referred in a book, not a Tik-Tok video, that the newly emerging 'Christianity' was 'The New Song' of the eternal Logos, a new spiritual expression of the pre-existing pattern of harmony upon which all of creation is based. How did he do that and what are those patterns? Help me out here. How did the gods and numbers and letters all get their names and how and why do they inter-correspond with ideation? What are the angels and daemons names and why is it the same with them? What's up with that?
Early Christian gnostics who saw the city's temple priests as Hellenic overseer usurpers of the priesthood and literalists as 'seekers after smooth things', the people who could write and did write the laws on copper scrolls, referred to Jesus as/ 'the plenitude of the ogdoads' or 'Fullness of the Eights'. Of that, Church Father Iraneus states, "Jesus is a name arithmetically symbolical, consisting of six letters, which known by all those that belong to the called."
The ogdoad 'contained in himself the entire number of the 'elements/letters (stoicheia) which are gematric equivalents also.
And so one of us was 'called' to discover this and 99 percent more :)...... and one was not.
Read the little pdf file, as OG lifelong researcher.....and discover things you never knew or maybe can even imagine.
Try harder, you can get there. I would have never put it like that, but you did it first as a false pretense.
Oh, one more thing. I don't subscribe as 'A gnostic' as I'm not limited to that theology's cultural expression. Not knowing which 'bucket' to ad hoc a person into, you're forced to address issues.....with informational answers to questions.....but won't, because you don't know them, and refuse to go find. Seek and ye shall find. Leave the 99 to find the One as completion.
So be it. Amen = 99/completion
You assume way too much (little) about my background on the subject. I appreciate a good discussion over debate every single time. Claims about having knowledge isn't knowledge. It's a claim about claims.
Reveal this to me: What distinguishes a gnostic from an agnostic christian?
Is your answer one that contains knowledge from gnostic sources or false assumptions from their critics? A good researcher considers all relevant points.
Youtube videos aren't what I'd call research just so you know.
I've not been given knowledge or understanding by your statements only platitudes claiming to show 'only 1 percent (?)'.
Q: Who/what is 'the 99' to be left and who/what is 'the one' to be found?
I watched the sophomoric "Zeitgeist" video. Now read this and get back to me.
You're a lifetime scholar, so I know you won't 'cheat' and pretend to have read and then critique with ignorance. That's not what OG researchers do, wouldn't you agree?
Critique that book for me and I'll consider you a teacher.
The truths that each religion share are hidden by cultural differences and revealed by examination. 'Satanist' religion would apply to any and all that work by material magic ritual rather than expounding on principles.
Welcome to the world of comparative religion. Each can be seen as an elephant described by blind men in the dark. One feels the trunk and thinks its a giant snake. Another feels the ears and thinks they're wings that allow flight. And so on.
One who looks for connecting threads will find them. Those looking for differences will find those also, but will remain naked in the truth, lacking the garment created by the threads that connect.
The cycle is Awareness/Ignorance and in this way, "It's going to be biblical". The cycle will turn again. Future Proves Past
Perfect ideation (angels/angles) is, in the material world always imperfect, depending on the degree of it's 'angle'. These have negative counterparts as forces, called the 'daemonic forces' in antiquity. In this way are the perfect ideations said to be 'fallen'. A degradation into dualistic opposing forces. These forces can be discovered and interpreted according to the system applied, with 'two' standing on this high place. One looks to the source in spiritual evolution, one uses the force in material involutions. The normie as 'the 99' see it literally and so are herded into the flock. Leaving the 99 to find the One is a biblical theme/meme. Otherwise, the church becomes the Whore.
Kurt Vonnegut’s older brother, Bernard Vonnegut, was an atmospheric scientist who discovered that silver iodide could be used for cloud seeding to produce rain and snow. This was in the 60s.
See HAARP - 'heating of the ionosphere' by radiating particles left by chemtrails.
See Bonacci's story about Bohemian Grove and Hunter S. Thompson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WfFG0iylSM
Sry about the YT link. Who was Johnny Gosch?
Lizzie Borden was the first popular case of claim of split personality through abuse as defense in a murder trial.
When Hubbard and Parsons attempted the Red Witch of Babylon (Marjorie Cameron) ceremony/psyop, Crowley called them literalist dumbasses acting like monkeys with machine guns. As are all literalists who are 'white' and 'black' magicians, Including Crowley.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcOHiGonWwU&list=RDXcOHiGonWwU&start_radio=1
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-e&q=literalism
The Odyssey was a Greecian Adventure story as history of the expansion of Western civilization and culture and its contact with other lands. The fact that those lands became somewhat 'Hellenized' is a stick in the craw of certain factions and elements who continue to identify with historic events and narratives. (Bohemian Phillistines :) So they wish to untie what they see as a Gordian Knot they themselves helped to entangle.They pretend to own the narrative.
In the end, it becomes a reveal/admission of attempts at social engineering. This is what theater has been (behind the scenes) since it's beginning. Interesting point in fact......'public theater' began when sailors would return to the docks and tell their tales of adventure...often provided with a marooned ship's deck as 'stage'. His embellished tales became the talk of the town and the subject of writings. As such, it was effective as 'propaganda' and so in this strange way, the beginning of the enter-twining of 'information' about foreign involvements (Intelligence) and the disclosure to the public (entertainment 'news') began and grew.
The beast changed appearance and names, but it operates today in much the same way as always .It now masquerades as Hollywood/The Internet (influencers).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tavistock_House
https://tavistockwharf.com/home
https://www.towertheatre.org.uk/history/
The Pirate Families continue to tell the tale.
https://www.centralbankmalta.org/qqa-imf
When the internet was still new, the first search engines would produce nearly all available results. (!) This was both good and bad as it often required extensive diving through page after page to find the specific information. Along the way, though, some interesting 'asides' could be gained.
One example was an encoded message sent to the Bank of Malta from the son of Charles 'Willoughby' (Weidenbach). It's since been lost on some past thumbdrive in an old format. I found it interesting and wondered about the hidden subject matter in that encrypted message. I was familiar at the time with both the history of Willoughby and The Knights/Bank of Malta, as well as the histories of Malta itself.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_A._Willoughby
Willoughby's father was Baron T. von Tscheppe-Weidenbach an important personage within German-Austrian Intelligence. The high military medal awarded the German soldier was the Maltese cross for reasons.
The sky was more visible in the past, telescopes were eventually invented when technology and invention finally allowed. People aren't born with complete understanding, it takes a lifetime. There was no organized school system or tech teams other than what could be assembled by a person of means. Yet the stars and their motions were observed and recorded to great degree. Today, we have modern telescopes that can see far into space, yet the average person, even some astronomers are ignorant of many of the concepts that the ancients pulled from it. I just discussed Greek mythology and its influence on astronomy with an astro-physicist this afternoon. Also discussed was astro-archeology (aka acheo-astrology) and how it determined the placement of temples and other influencial buildings. Things lost to the majority of modern thinking/understanding.
Modern man, using both microscopes and telescopes continually discovers that nothing is new under the sun. In fact, they await the thread that binds both the micro and macro worlds that also has been discovered and expressed to little effect until that day of Great Awakening.
You under estimate the genius of the past.
Discover Divine Geometry and a new appreciation.
OMG As previously stated, demonstrated in the book, and ignored....Three circles are the traditional three dimensional 'worlds' you know nothing of except as an anthropromorphic 'trinity'.
So in the 'three worlds', they intersect and their intersection as three circles for reasons you know nothing about......they create two Vesica Pisces - 2 FISHES. Vescia Pisces. You know.......c'mon, you're the expert.....right? Right? 5,000 is the area of the 'magic square' used in the calculation. The formula is proof that the story was fashioned to fit the formula......NOT.....the other way around. Which is a very important point that remains hidden to 'the profane', the '99', the 'babes in christ'. et al. When I was a child, I spake as a child. Time to put on the big boy pants and learn things.
You're just a childish liar and I don't have time for children whining in place of discussion of subjects you avoid.....every....single.....time. Suddenly avoidance is expertise huh? Losers don't read let alone understand.
So you're a math expert who cries and avoids a book that uses math as theological proofs. Why don't you take up acting? ROFL You're a math expert now. I can't get over that. You've just made my day !!
Off the top of your pointy head, what's the square root of 2? Top of your little math expert head, what is it? You mean, your 'expertise' in a 'contest' in 5th grade didn't allow you to answer without help?
"Experts" I read about them all day, every day in the press. You must be one because you have NO idea wtf you're pretending to talk about.
I came to one actual expert on certain subjects by looking for another soul who might understand the formula 1 over phi to the power of negative 3. One. One person on social media channels understood and had posts about it. It was you was it? Being the expert. Please help me out here and expound on the formula. Wait, you're going to have to learn what phi is first. It's all in that book....that you read and can critique. I mean.....you read it right?.....
Do you accuse people who refer you to the bible of just trying to promote a book? Why not?
You've not allowed a discussion of POINTS referred TO in the book. NONE. ZERO. You didn't read. You didn't attempt. You're a fraud and your fifth grade teacher wants your math trophy back.
It isn't about math in any case, moron. As a math expert you'd know that it's about the principles behind. But then you have no idea what that even MEANS. Like the Golden Mean...you have no idea what it is, let alone what it MEANS.
You're a ranter who hates being shown how ignorant you truly are. Who attacks knowledge they've yet to find? No sane person.
I should study Christianity? ROFL I've done that in spades and also the various theologies and histories involved so as to not be confused like you.
What's the difference between a gnostic and agnostic christian again? Go ahead. Tell me. You've studied Christianity right? The origin of the word Christos...you studied that, huh. LOL You mean that book that defines early Christian symbolism that you won't touch....like that? Learning isn't what you think it is, apparently. Learning isn't confirming one's own accepted errors and lies without being able to prove, nor is it insults and avoidance of actual topics while projecting that same thing onto others. You give platitudes. Bad ones.
What are the angels names, oh wise one, and how did they receive them. You don't know. What is the Golden Mean? You don't know. What connects musical notes with the divine ratios? You don't know. Do YOU have a room full of books on comparitive theologies? Philosophies? Metaphysics? Histories of the religions, both orthodox and 'secret'? You're afraid of books, so I know the answer. Books aren't evil or good are they? Information within and ability to discern it determines what a book is worth and that's information and discernment that you're lacking. Not me. I present it.....you deny without looking in order to show our relative positions as teacher and failed student.
You project like a bitch. Pearls to swine who won't even LOOK in their dish being handed to them, but wallow in the mud, and call it expertise. You show me your aptitude whether you know it or not and it's both comical and depressing how idiots like you can pretend to know things and think they've won a prize. You're a pigeon on a chessboard, knocking over pieces and crowing a victory. If you attempted this shit with me in preson, in the past I would have dealt with you in another way that I'm sure you're also really bad at handling. I don't have time to hang around the playpen, fren. Get one more P.O.S. joke claim in so I can block you for being the mental midget you are. Thanks for playing - with your food.
Okay now.....off the top of your pointy '"I'm a math expert' head.......what's Divine Geometry?
What makes it DIVINE? The future belongs to those who understand things.
You embarrass yourself not me.
See Theoria Apophasis on Youtube for metaphysical theologic information. What's YOUR theory about 'the light of the world'? Well just sit there in the dark then and project the light. That seems to be your method. Try harder.