I'm partially convinced by CE5 exchanges. But they could also be demons...but...but....who the fuck knows. I'm afraid it's going to be rolled out or something outrageous to go along with the disclosure to really rock people's worlds. it would definitely make the masses forget about the files
I wouldn’t bother trying to convince that guy, he obviously doesn’t have an interest in the topic of ufos.
I don’t think the govt will disclose aliens whether true or not, to distract from the Epstein files. They simply don’t care enough. What are people gonna do about it?
If anything, I think it’s more likely they stage a false flag or start a war or something
Yes, an ALIEN war. with holograms and real ships that the govt has perfected since the 40s. that or holographic Jesus. for some reason I just get this feeling that they're going to attempt to pull something like this off
They’ve already disclosed that aliens are real. It has rare, bi-partisan support in the US with Obama and Trump both saying they’re real. Do you typically consider information from the government to be factual?
After all these years, no one has definitive proof that aliens exist. Humans can’t explore space but surely other intelligent species would be trading, interacting, and/or destroying us by now.
If intelligent life exists outside of Earth, how could this be kept from us after billions of years of existence? Shouldn’t there be millions, if not billions, of intelligent species moving around in the vastness of space?
It’s a huge, faith-based leap to think intelligent, non-human life exists outside of Earth.
God you people are so short sighted, I am envious though. Its like 99% of the users in here are die hard christians and believe in god. I am jealous seriously. I wish I could just believe in the sky daddy like that, but hes only got 2000 years out of 300,000. Im not putting much stock in it.
If any of you guys actually were paying attention you would know this disclosure may come in the form of technological origins/patents. Which I always thought it was strange as hell how humans basically catapulted from cathode ray tubes to what were capable of today in less than a 100 years.
Like I said I wont be talking anymore here about it, whats the point when you guys just ridicule anyone with a open mind about anything. Stick to your old books and old ways of thinking.
I do agree with Greer on one thing. It depends on how things are presented. If its about generating fear then its only being used as a system of control.
If its about the truth, then humanity may have a chance at entering a age that is better for everyone and not just the elite, but I just cant see the rich giving up the reins. Even if they were given total immunity for their crimes in exchange for the truth.
But yes, hmm skydaddy. Space is fake, pagan religions are fake and should be destroyed, everything fake except the bible that was just stolen stories and translated by kings and priests for their own purposes. Yes thats totally 100% true.
While I also find the Bible literalists hard to deal with, the whole “sky daddy” shit is cringe and rude imo. I’m not a bible literalist but recently started believing in “god” through research in near death experiences, simulation theory and similar topics which I once considered to be woo woo nonsense. Consider looking into those topics with an open mind, which you obviously have since you’re well versed in the ufo topic.
Concerning the topic at hand, I think as far as the patents are concerned, if they come out with some super advanced tech, that won’t be disclosure because they’ll just say they invented them.
I’ve done probably hundreds of hours of research of various kinds on the ufo topic and the more I learn, the more confused (or at least unsure) I get and I think the govt wants it that way.
To be honest, I don’t know what to think. Aliens from another planet, interdimensional beings, something spiritual, future humans, maybe something we can’t even begin to imagine? All of the above? I’m pretty much open to any possible outcome at this point.
It’s funny because I’ve always wanted alien disclosure since I was young but now if the govt comes out and says anything about it I won’t believe them lol.
Since you seem pretty knowledgeable about the topic compared to most people here, what are your thoughts? Do you think you have a good idea of what the phenomena is? Or isn’t?
Who do you personally think are credible people on the topic?
How are you going to discuss if you don’t have even a basic background on the topic?
Why would they be real? Because the universe is vast and life almost certainly exists elsewhere in the universe.
What proof?there is no proof or we wouldn’t be discussing it. There’s a lot of evidence tho. thousands of personal accounts by extremely credible people, plus hundreds of thousands from regular people. Govt whistleblowers, high ranking military and political figures from around the world
Why would they disclose? I don’t think they’re going to but if they did it would be so they can wrench more power, control and money from the general population. Same as they do with everything else
Why would they be real? Because the universe is vast and life almost certainly exists elsewhere in the universe
It’s so vast and there’s so many diverse species with advanced tech that can go to warp speed like Hollywood movies, yet they aren’t integrated into our society? They haven’t enslaved us? Out of infinity worlds and species and a billion years of existence, how has neither scenario happened yet?
And WHY are they fake and gay? Can't we discuss?
Sure, let’s discuss.
Why would they be real? What proof exists that they are real? Why would the government divulge their existence now if they were real?
I'm partially convinced by CE5 exchanges. But they could also be demons...but...but....who the fuck knows. I'm afraid it's going to be rolled out or something outrageous to go along with the disclosure to really rock people's worlds. it would definitely make the masses forget about the files
Demons could certainly be involved in strange sightings. Do you support creationism, big bang theory, or something else?
I'm Old Earth Creationism all the way
I wouldn’t bother trying to convince that guy, he obviously doesn’t have an interest in the topic of ufos.
I don’t think the govt will disclose aliens whether true or not, to distract from the Epstein files. They simply don’t care enough. What are people gonna do about it?
If anything, I think it’s more likely they stage a false flag or start a war or something
Yes, an ALIEN war. with holograms and real ships that the govt has perfected since the 40s. that or holographic Jesus. for some reason I just get this feeling that they're going to attempt to pull something like this off
They’ve already disclosed that aliens are real. It has rare, bi-partisan support in the US with Obama and Trump both saying they’re real. Do you typically consider information from the government to be factual?
No proof they are real isn't proof they aren't.
That's a quite common fallacy.
As long as you don't believe because no evidence that's all good, but from here to say 'then i know they aren't real' is a huge leap.
After all these years, no one has definitive proof that aliens exist. Humans can’t explore space but surely other intelligent species would be trading, interacting, and/or destroying us by now.
If intelligent life exists outside of Earth, how could this be kept from us after billions of years of existence? Shouldn’t there be millions, if not billions, of intelligent species moving around in the vastness of space?
It’s a huge, faith-based leap to think intelligent, non-human life exists outside of Earth.
You are assuming they operate on your same paradigms.
You are an animal that learned to prey other animals which are based on instinct, through consciousness.
You don't know how an animal preying on another which is itself based on consciousness would go at it.
You also don't know what they prey, if meat, work or energy.
Given this, your suppositions are quite lacky imo.
God you people are so short sighted, I am envious though. Its like 99% of the users in here are die hard christians and believe in god. I am jealous seriously. I wish I could just believe in the sky daddy like that, but hes only got 2000 years out of 300,000. Im not putting much stock in it.
If any of you guys actually were paying attention you would know this disclosure may come in the form of technological origins/patents. Which I always thought it was strange as hell how humans basically catapulted from cathode ray tubes to what were capable of today in less than a 100 years.
Like I said I wont be talking anymore here about it, whats the point when you guys just ridicule anyone with a open mind about anything. Stick to your old books and old ways of thinking.
I do agree with Greer on one thing. It depends on how things are presented. If its about generating fear then its only being used as a system of control.
If its about the truth, then humanity may have a chance at entering a age that is better for everyone and not just the elite, but I just cant see the rich giving up the reins. Even if they were given total immunity for their crimes in exchange for the truth.
But yes, hmm skydaddy. Space is fake, pagan religions are fake and should be destroyed, everything fake except the bible that was just stolen stories and translated by kings and priests for their own purposes. Yes thats totally 100% true.
While I also find the Bible literalists hard to deal with, the whole “sky daddy” shit is cringe and rude imo. I’m not a bible literalist but recently started believing in “god” through research in near death experiences, simulation theory and similar topics which I once considered to be woo woo nonsense. Consider looking into those topics with an open mind, which you obviously have since you’re well versed in the ufo topic.
How do u know its been 300,000 years?
It vould only be 6000 years since creation for all we know
Cosmology and astronomy provide strong evidence for an older universe, not to mention geology here on Earth
Why do you believe the highpriests who are proclaiming 300,000? What if it's actually 6,018 and God has them all? I have the receipts.
Every time I've tested this claim the Bible has been proven original. Even when it admits summarizing other known records.
Your wish is granted, you can.
Concerning the topic at hand, I think as far as the patents are concerned, if they come out with some super advanced tech, that won’t be disclosure because they’ll just say they invented them.
I’ve done probably hundreds of hours of research of various kinds on the ufo topic and the more I learn, the more confused (or at least unsure) I get and I think the govt wants it that way.
To be honest, I don’t know what to think. Aliens from another planet, interdimensional beings, something spiritual, future humans, maybe something we can’t even begin to imagine? All of the above? I’m pretty much open to any possible outcome at this point.
It’s funny because I’ve always wanted alien disclosure since I was young but now if the govt comes out and says anything about it I won’t believe them lol.
Since you seem pretty knowledgeable about the topic compared to most people here, what are your thoughts? Do you think you have a good idea of what the phenomena is? Or isn’t? Who do you personally think are credible people on the topic?
I’m open for a discussion on the topic
How are you going to discuss if you don’t have even a basic background on the topic?
Why would they be real? Because the universe is vast and life almost certainly exists elsewhere in the universe.
What proof?there is no proof or we wouldn’t be discussing it. There’s a lot of evidence tho. thousands of personal accounts by extremely credible people, plus hundreds of thousands from regular people. Govt whistleblowers, high ranking military and political figures from around the world
Why would they disclose? I don’t think they’re going to but if they did it would be so they can wrench more power, control and money from the general population. Same as they do with everything else
It’s so vast and there’s so many diverse species with advanced tech that can go to warp speed like Hollywood movies, yet they aren’t integrated into our society? They haven’t enslaved us? Out of infinity worlds and species and a billion years of existence, how has neither scenario happened yet?
You sound like a retard.
Would you really think you would know if they did?