And notice that his cherry picked verses don't mention Christ or the Holy Spirit once, but his collage of idolatry does include the image of Christ three times.
If God implies all, then one cannot dump anything onto everything without ignoring ALL.
Anthropromorphic
Only within pro (motion) can anthro (momentum) become morpic (matter). Putting the words anthro + pro + morphic together tempts morpic within anthro to ignore pro (God).
“You shall have no other gods before me. “You shall not make for yourselves an idol, nor any image of anything that is in the heavens above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: you shall not bow yourself down to them, nor serve them, for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children, on the third and on the fourth generation of those who hate me, and showing loving kindness to thousands of those who love me and keep my commandments. (Exodus 20:3-6 WEBPB)
But the hour comes, and now is, when the true worshippers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for the Father seeks such to be his worshippers. God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth.” (John 4:23-24 WEBPB)
Being then the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Divine Nature is like gold, or silver, or stone, engraved by art and design of man. The times of ignorance therefore God overlooked. But now he commands that all people everywhere should repent, because he has appointed a day in which he will judge the world in righteousness by the man whom he has ordained; of which he has given assurance to all men, in that he has raised him from the dead.” (Acts 17:29-31 WEBPB)
“What value does the engraved image have, that its maker has engraved it; the molten image, even the teacher of lies, that he who fashions its form trusts in it, to make mute idols? Woe to him who says to the wood, ‘Awake!’ or to the mute stone, ‘Arise!’ Shall this teach? Behold, it is overlaid with gold and silver, and there is no breath at all within it. But the LORD is in his holy temple. Let all the earth be silent before him!” (Habakkuk 2:18-20 WEBPB)
Now the deeds of the flesh are obvious, which are: adultery, sexual immorality, uncleanness, lustfulness, idolatry, sorcery, hatred, strife, jealousies, outbursts of anger, rivalries, divisions, heresies, envy, murders, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these; of which I forewarn you, even as I also forewarned you, that those who practise such things will not inherit God’s Kingdom. (Galatians 5:19-21 WEBPB)
Or don’t you know that the unrighteous will not inherit God’s Kingdom? Don’t be deceived. Neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor male prostitutes, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor slanderers, nor extortionists, will inherit God’s Kingdom. Some of you were such, but you were washed. You were sanctified. You were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and in the Spirit of our God. (1 Corinthians 6:9-11 WEBPB)
Therefore, my beloved, flee from idolatry. (1 Corinthians 10:14 WEBPB)
For they themselves report concerning us what kind of a reception we had from you, and how you turned to God from idols to serve a living and true God, and to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead: Jesus, who delivers us from the wrath to come. (1 Thessalonians 1:9-10 WEBPB)
Therefore concerning the eating of things sacrificed to idols, we know that no idol is anything in the world, and that there is no other God but one. (1 Corinthians 8:4 WEBPB)
For all the gods of the peoples are idols, but the LORD made the heavens. (1 Chronicles 16:26 WEBPB)
“‘Don’t turn to idols, nor make molten gods for yourselves. I am the LORD your God. (Leviticus 19:4 WEBPB)
The LORD says, “Don’t learn the way of the nations, and don’t be dismayed at the signs of the sky; for the nations are dismayed at them. For the customs of the peoples are vanity; for one cuts a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman with the axe. They deck it with silver and with gold. They fasten it with nails and with hammers, so that it can’t move. They are like a palm tree, of turned work, and don’t speak. They must be carried, because they can’t move. Don’t be afraid of them; for they can’t do evil, neither is it in them to do good.” (Jeremiah 10:2-5 WEBPB)
The idols of the nations are silver and gold, the work of men’s hands. They have mouths, but they can’t speak. They have eyes, but they can’t see. They have ears, but they can’t hear, neither is there any breath in their mouths. Those who make them will be like them, yes, everyone who trusts in them. (Psalms 135:15-18 WEBPB)
The rest of mankind, who were not killed with these plagues, didn’t repent of the works of their hands, that they wouldn’t worship demons, and the idols of gold, and of silver, and of brass, and of stone, and of wood, which can’t see, hear, or walk. They didn’t repent of their murders, their sorceries, their sexual immorality, or their thefts. (Revelation 9:20-21 WEBPB)
Little children, keep yourselves from idols. (1 John 5:21 WEBPB)
Prots and their iconoclasm. Really nothing new under the sun.
You idolize a book that was given to you by the Church, its prophets and apostles. Worse - you idolize your own interpretation of scripture following the man-made tradition of talmudic puppets Luther and Calvin. It is pride that has led you to spiritual delusion (prelest).
He is, even if non-denominational. Some of them are like the muslims and believe depicting God is idolatry. It's a free-for-all all-you-can-eat buffet with them and Scripture.
How so? Is idolizing men and dead people any better? If a catholic family member dies can you ask them for 400 gorillion things too?
Church
The Church refers to THE WHOLE Body of Christ. ALL Saved people are a part of the Church. By the Biblical definition, most self proclaimed catholics are ironically and sadly not part of the Church.
And no, the Bible was 'given to us' by Godly men. Not people who thought Mary was made sinless.
Are Saints:
A. Specific and special people according to men
B. All Saved Believers
own interpretations
What one is most consistent with the rest of the Bible? Whatever evidence most supports an interpretation? That interpretation is likelist to be true. Humans are irrational and silly and blinded by sin rather than logical so ofc they won't know this.
man made
Like purgatory?
pride
Don't catholics also have this issue, what with the "WE are the FIRST Church! WE gave you the Bible! WE are the number 1 authority! WE have the One Single View, and the stupid Lower Caste do NOT!!"
Orthodox claim to be First, too.
Remember "the first shall be last and the last shall be first"?
Note: Also, very VERY fitting that someone defending catholicism also defends censorship. Pea one, Pea two, meet Pod.
He was influenced by the Talmud, even if not as outright jewed up as Zwingli and Calvin. The whole idea of everyone making their own biblical interpretation and polemicizing against the traditional interpretation which is kept unchanged within the Church is talmudic.
Once you understand this you will understand who stood behind the Reformation and why the main cities it originated from had a very strong jewish presence (Geneva, Prague, Zurich).
iconoclasm bad
Because it runs contrary to the Christian tradition which affirms icons as story telling devices and representation of angles, saints and of God. Iconoclasm is the innovation, not the other way around.
How so? Is idolizing men and dead people any better?
Strawman. We don't idolize or worship the saints, we venerate them. Protestants tend to think of the Bible as God-sent as if it were not a product of the tradition set up by Christ and compiled by the Church fathers you go against.
If a catholic family member dies can you ask them for 400 gorillion things too?
You can ask him for intercession if he were recognized as a saint, yes.
The Church refers to THE WHOLE Body of Christ. ALL
It is the body of Christ but just like His body, it exists historically and physically in our world, it's not just an abstraction. At the last supper, Christ said one has to eat His flesh and drink His blood, to be in communion with His living body, to gain eternal life.
Saved people are a part of the Church.
How do you know who is saved? It's the other way around - those within the Church, which is the Ark of salvation and God's Kingdom on Earth, are saved. The rest drown with the flood.
By the Biblical definition, most self proclaimed catholics are ironically and sadly not part of the Church.
They are not, because Rome seceded from the Orthodox Catholic Church in 1054.
What one is most consistent with the rest of the Bible? Whatever evidence most supports an interpretation? That interpretation is likelist to be true. Humans are irrational and silly and blinded by sin rather than logical so ofc they won't know this.
Every text is subject to interpretation. Interpretation is not "evidence based", it is context dependent. You can use reason and consistently reach to the wrong conclusions if your premises are wrong. This is why protestantism is not a wholistic tradition but a multiplicity of thousands of different takes on just about any verse in the Bible (including the Bible canon itself, which they take for granted yet it is not self-evident which books and translations are authoritative).
Like purgatory?
Correct. Purgatory is Vatican's fiction (although I enjoyed Dante).
Remember "the first shall be last and the last shall be first"?
This is taken out of context obviously.
Note: Also, very VERY fitting that someone defending catholicism also defends censorship. Pea one, Pea two, meet Pod.
I'm Orthodox but it's the same to you I suppose. I'm against suppression of truth. What I'm not against is suppression and eradication of lies and I believe this is consistent with the Christian faith. The difference between truth and lie is life and death, between God and Satan.
God doesn't tolerate untruth and neither should you. If that means burning books and jailing authors of dangerous deceptions, so be it. I stand by my conviction.
“Blessed are you when people reproach you, persecute you, and say all kinds of evil against you falsely, for my sake. (Matthew 5:11 WEBPB)
Don’t deliver me over to the desire of my adversaries, for false witnesses have risen up against me, such as breathe out cruelty. (Psalms 27:12 WEBPB)
... God of my praise, don’t remain silent, for they have opened the mouth of the wicked and the mouth of deceit against me. They have spoken to me with a lying tongue. They have also surrounded me with words of hatred, and fought against me without a cause. In return for my love, they are my adversaries; but I am in prayer. They have rewarded me evil for good, and hatred for my love.
(Psalms 109:1-5 WEBPB)
In some cases. But covetousness is also equated with idolatry.
Put to death therefore your members which are on the earth: sexual immorality, uncleanness, depraved passion, evil desire, and covetousness, which is idolatry. (Colossians 3:5 WEBPB)
Idolatry is a work of the flesh, and something that most people, being in the flesh, will be drawn too and tempted by.
Now the deeds of the flesh are obvious, which are: adultery, sexual immorality, uncleanness, lustfulness, idolatry, sorcery, hatred, strife, jealousies, outbursts of anger, rivalries, divisions, heresies, envy, murders, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these; of which I forewarn you, even as I also forewarned you, that those who practise such things will not inherit God’s Kingdom. (Galatians 5:19-21 WEBPB)
All sets each one free (choice)...others tempt one to physically (idol) and mentally (ideal) hold onto. Holding onto distorts one within the process of being set free.
It ain't any of these material things...but ones choice to hold onto either.
Material implies ones matter (materi) within all (al) motion...a process of separation. Others shape matter to tempt one to hold onto the shape.
Somehow Star of David is missing. Suddenly. Every Single Time.
Fuck Jews, and fuck their stupid propaganda.
I'm sure there's a good explanation. He was too preoccupied with dumping on Christianity that he forgot about it.
And notice that his cherry picked verses don't mention Christ or the Holy Spirit once, but his collage of idolatry does include the image of Christ three times.
Anthropromorphic religion is idolatry which is a dump on God.
Agreed. Christianity is the religion given to us by Christ who is God though.
If God implies all, then one cannot dump anything onto everything without ignoring ALL.
Only within pro (motion) can anthro (momentum) become morpic (matter). Putting the words anthro + pro + morphic together tempts morpic within anthro to ignore pro (God).
You know, the Nazis had pieces of flair that they made the Jews wear.
“You shall have no other gods before me. “You shall not make for yourselves an idol, nor any image of anything that is in the heavens above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: you shall not bow yourself down to them, nor serve them, for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children, on the third and on the fourth generation of those who hate me, and showing loving kindness to thousands of those who love me and keep my commandments. (Exodus 20:3-6 WEBPB)
But the hour comes, and now is, when the true worshippers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for the Father seeks such to be his worshippers. God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth.” (John 4:23-24 WEBPB)
Being then the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Divine Nature is like gold, or silver, or stone, engraved by art and design of man. The times of ignorance therefore God overlooked. But now he commands that all people everywhere should repent, because he has appointed a day in which he will judge the world in righteousness by the man whom he has ordained; of which he has given assurance to all men, in that he has raised him from the dead.” (Acts 17:29-31 WEBPB)
“What value does the engraved image have, that its maker has engraved it; the molten image, even the teacher of lies, that he who fashions its form trusts in it, to make mute idols? Woe to him who says to the wood, ‘Awake!’ or to the mute stone, ‘Arise!’ Shall this teach? Behold, it is overlaid with gold and silver, and there is no breath at all within it. But the LORD is in his holy temple. Let all the earth be silent before him!” (Habakkuk 2:18-20 WEBPB)
Now the deeds of the flesh are obvious, which are: adultery, sexual immorality, uncleanness, lustfulness, idolatry, sorcery, hatred, strife, jealousies, outbursts of anger, rivalries, divisions, heresies, envy, murders, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these; of which I forewarn you, even as I also forewarned you, that those who practise such things will not inherit God’s Kingdom. (Galatians 5:19-21 WEBPB)
Or don’t you know that the unrighteous will not inherit God’s Kingdom? Don’t be deceived. Neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor male prostitutes, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor slanderers, nor extortionists, will inherit God’s Kingdom. Some of you were such, but you were washed. You were sanctified. You were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and in the Spirit of our God. (1 Corinthians 6:9-11 WEBPB)
Therefore, my beloved, flee from idolatry. (1 Corinthians 10:14 WEBPB)
For they themselves report concerning us what kind of a reception we had from you, and how you turned to God from idols to serve a living and true God, and to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead: Jesus, who delivers us from the wrath to come. (1 Thessalonians 1:9-10 WEBPB)
Therefore concerning the eating of things sacrificed to idols, we know that no idol is anything in the world, and that there is no other God but one. (1 Corinthians 8:4 WEBPB)
For all the gods of the peoples are idols, but the LORD made the heavens. (1 Chronicles 16:26 WEBPB)
“‘Don’t turn to idols, nor make molten gods for yourselves. I am the LORD your God. (Leviticus 19:4 WEBPB)
The LORD says, “Don’t learn the way of the nations, and don’t be dismayed at the signs of the sky; for the nations are dismayed at them. For the customs of the peoples are vanity; for one cuts a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman with the axe. They deck it with silver and with gold. They fasten it with nails and with hammers, so that it can’t move. They are like a palm tree, of turned work, and don’t speak. They must be carried, because they can’t move. Don’t be afraid of them; for they can’t do evil, neither is it in them to do good.” (Jeremiah 10:2-5 WEBPB)
The idols of the nations are silver and gold, the work of men’s hands. They have mouths, but they can’t speak. They have eyes, but they can’t see. They have ears, but they can’t hear, neither is there any breath in their mouths. Those who make them will be like them, yes, everyone who trusts in them. (Psalms 135:15-18 WEBPB)
The rest of mankind, who were not killed with these plagues, didn’t repent of the works of their hands, that they wouldn’t worship demons, and the idols of gold, and of silver, and of brass, and of stone, and of wood, which can’t see, hear, or walk. They didn’t repent of their murders, their sorceries, their sexual immorality, or their thefts. (Revelation 9:20-21 WEBPB)
Little children, keep yourselves from idols. (1 John 5:21 WEBPB)
Prots and their iconoclasm. Really nothing new under the sun.
You idolize a book that was given to you by the Church, its prophets and apostles. Worse - you idolize your own interpretation of scripture following the man-made tradition of talmudic puppets Luther and Calvin. It is pride that has led you to spiritual delusion (prelest).
OP probably wouldn't have included images of Christ as false idols if he was Protestant.
He is, even if non-denominational. Some of them are like the muslims and believe depicting God is idolatry. It's a free-for-all all-you-can-eat buffet with them and Scripture.
Luther was big on bashing them. Wdym??
How?
How so? Is idolizing men and dead people any better? If a catholic family member dies can you ask them for 400 gorillion things too?
The Church refers to THE WHOLE Body of Christ. ALL Saved people are a part of the Church. By the Biblical definition, most self proclaimed catholics are ironically and sadly not part of the Church.
And no, the Bible was 'given to us' by Godly men. Not people who thought Mary was made sinless.
Are Saints:
A. Specific and special people according to men
B. All Saved Believers
What one is most consistent with the rest of the Bible? Whatever evidence most supports an interpretation? That interpretation is likelist to be true. Humans are irrational and silly and blinded by sin rather than logical so ofc they won't know this.
Like purgatory?
Don't catholics also have this issue, what with the "WE are the FIRST Church! WE gave you the Bible! WE are the number 1 authority! WE have the One Single View, and the stupid Lower Caste do NOT!!"
Orthodox claim to be First, too.
Remember "the first shall be last and the last shall be first"?
Note: Also, very VERY fitting that someone defending catholicism also defends censorship. Pea one, Pea two, meet Pod.
He was influenced by the Talmud, even if not as outright jewed up as Zwingli and Calvin. The whole idea of everyone making their own biblical interpretation and polemicizing against the traditional interpretation which is kept unchanged within the Church is talmudic.
Once you understand this you will understand who stood behind the Reformation and why the main cities it originated from had a very strong jewish presence (Geneva, Prague, Zurich).
Because it runs contrary to the Christian tradition which affirms icons as story telling devices and representation of angles, saints and of God. Iconoclasm is the innovation, not the other way around.
Strawman. We don't idolize or worship the saints, we venerate them. Protestants tend to think of the Bible as God-sent as if it were not a product of the tradition set up by Christ and compiled by the Church fathers you go against.
You can ask him for intercession if he were recognized as a saint, yes.
It is the body of Christ but just like His body, it exists historically and physically in our world, it's not just an abstraction. At the last supper, Christ said one has to eat His flesh and drink His blood, to be in communion with His living body, to gain eternal life.
How do you know who is saved? It's the other way around - those within the Church, which is the Ark of salvation and God's Kingdom on Earth, are saved. The rest drown with the flood.
They are not, because Rome seceded from the Orthodox Catholic Church in 1054.
Every text is subject to interpretation. Interpretation is not "evidence based", it is context dependent. You can use reason and consistently reach to the wrong conclusions if your premises are wrong. This is why protestantism is not a wholistic tradition but a multiplicity of thousands of different takes on just about any verse in the Bible (including the Bible canon itself, which they take for granted yet it is not self-evident which books and translations are authoritative).
Correct. Purgatory is Vatican's fiction (although I enjoyed Dante).
This is taken out of context obviously.
I'm Orthodox but it's the same to you I suppose. I'm against suppression of truth. What I'm not against is suppression and eradication of lies and I believe this is consistent with the Christian faith. The difference between truth and lie is life and death, between God and Satan.
God doesn't tolerate untruth and neither should you. If that means burning books and jailing authors of dangerous deceptions, so be it. I stand by my conviction.
Said the guy who posts antichristian memes. Total lunacy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthropomorphism
Anthropromorphism is behind all idolatry.
How do you know that God is not personal?
Define "anthropomorphism".
In some cases. But covetousness is also equated with idolatry.
Idolatry is a work of the flesh, and something that most people, being in the flesh, will be drawn too and tempted by.
Such an ignorant assertion
What parts are false? Is he digging at catholicism or Christianity? The OP can repeat the exact same 1 liner.
Not saying you're wrong at all
And notice what religion he didn't take a shot at.
Its a nonsensical assertion projecting ideological insecurity. What is worship, what is venerated, what is archival.. etc...
To assert (join together) ignores being set apart from one another...
All sets each one free (choice)...others tempt one to physically (idol) and mentally (ideal) hold onto. Holding onto distorts one within the process of being set free.
It ain't any of these material things...but ones choice to hold onto either.
Material implies ones matter (materi) within all (al) motion...a process of separation. Others shape matter to tempt one to hold onto the shape.