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Does this fellow have a point? When you can't trust experts and institutions, people will believe anything. It makes it hard to be a conspiracy theorist when there is no truth out there somewhere. (media.conspiracies.win)
posted 1 year ago by Mad_King_Kalak 1 year ago by Mad_King_Kalak +15 / -2
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– no_ez 6 points 1 year ago +6 / -0

Hey I only wore a mask the first month… when they were telling us not too… and I only fell for the Q psyop briefly…AFTER they put the huge chainlink & concertina wire fence and 30k guardsmen/troops at the capitol complex.

But yeah, conspiracy-minded people are gullible as shit. Just look at all the grifters and disinfo agents with huge followings.

Pray for discernment. It can really help.

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– Jalapeno_gringo 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

I know he's not a math expert 😉

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– TallestSkil 6 points 1 year ago +6 / -0

No, he’s giving examples of “nonsense people believe” in the wake of the collapse of institutional trust.

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– Mad_King_Kalak [S] 1 point 1 year ago +2 / -1

I took that as a typo.

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– Jalapeno_gringo 1 point 1 year ago +2 / -1

Probably was a typo. I've made many myself

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– iloveturtles 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

He is referring to Terrence Howard's theories which includes 1x1=2.

https://www.reddit.com/r/mathmemes/comments/wq9hcl/terrence_d_howard_proves_that_1x1_2/

The point of the post is that with loss of faith in institutional credibility, outlining theories and information tend to get more credence.

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– Primate98 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

I don't think he hits it quite on the head.

Normies get their truth from two sources: the "authorities" (primarily the mainstream media) and personal experience. In normal circumstances, these two circles have only a tiny intersection in the Venn diagram of life.

Now, however, their personal experiences are coming into contradiction with what they are instructed is the truth. They are told the economy is great, but they're going broke just trying to pay the bills. They are told Trump (again, still) is going to destroy the country if he gets reelected, but they remember when none of the current shitstorm was happening just a few years ago.

But the thing is, trust in the authorities is their very mode of thinking. To relieve the stress of the contradiction, they just stop listening. Then they don't know what to think. It's not that they'll believe anything, they believe nothing.

You can see it clearly with Democrats. Most can no longer deny Biden is a complete train wreck, but you never see them follow through with that. They never say, "Yeah, I'm just seeing it now, but I guess what they've been saying about Biden for a while was actually true. I was lied to, and I was a fool to believe it. I need to figure out pronto who I should be listening to. Fuck, maybe I actually should have voted for the other guy." Nope, they're just adrift, don't know which way to turn.

So what we're dealing with, in the end, is the way the human mind actually works. For anyone reading this, if you don't identify closely with this description of normies, understand clearly that it doesn't make you smarter or better. Different humans just have starkly different ways their minds operate, as surely as they have differently colored eyes.

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– llamatr0n 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

your last para: I think we just h ave different sources of authority

and for normies it's: govt., science, celebrity, sports

and if you don't think "we" have the same look at the frequent names which appear in the posts

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– Primate98 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

I think you may have missed the point: the differing levels of consciousness lead to differing ways of selecting authorities. Normies accept the default authorities. One level up, they have the capacity to select alternative authorities. One level up from that, and the concept of "authority" loses significance. They can develop the capacity to disregard and dismiss any and all authorities if their judgement guides them to do so.

From a personal perspective, I used to watch the network news and never doubted a word. Now, there are a number of topics on which I would disagree with every person who writes on it publicly.

Of course, no novel thought can come into the world without first being in disagreement with everything else. Otherwise it would not be novel, would it?

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– Thricefucked 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Browneye lives matter.

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– deleted 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0
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– SmithW1984 2 points 1 year ago +3 / -1

Truth is a person and His name is Jesus Christ. Everything else is corruptible and of fallen nature.

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– Janschology 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

zzzzzzz

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– Janschology 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

you should all be familiar with Cass Sunstein's paper 'Conspiracy Theories: Their Cause and Cure' from 2008 and then look at the appointments he held since then.

https://elsevier-ssrn-document-store-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/08/01/21/ssrn_id1084585_code254274.pdf?response-content-disposition=inline&X-Amz-Security-Token=IQoJb3JpZ2luX2VjEMz%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2FwEaCXVzLWVhc3QtMSJHMEUCIF%2FYyaEgluXJ%2FKM4t4F0ALsoZT23Af3XokGdx4VhzJi0AiEAz9ZOZhr5FFPxN3SYIL6%2F7b28TBYHC483afdEsZnDq0cqxwUIlf%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2FARAEGgwzMDg0NzUzMDEyNTciDF3Qhui%2BlaMWHcSBJiqbBV0DVTVocehr3kxtG9LAlgPbqFGUjZbVIPxPb3PNtqxDbFtPQVK4vvX%2FKDRaEQC6ws9M8oqM41gHODgFDczpaW52j%2FynpJVqtwNgi0G9kdD4YlBufyuzUiYJORXBK1CJHw0nudhDIqhIGF15tq4BBm7xU%2Ftz7yKkuMOk8K8XWKycFnh25x0nxE8XCy3GRGmsCH%2BKmF0PZIfvj9vwiKQZDXiAOhcGZoNtOPgrOHrerjm6P7t2GGY6MbTCrfWTCCqRujOY7bv%2FXYf3d0fo0ei3Cj7ivLetjYKkBn8yy3lo7PxvIBJb61ihewVR2pLM9XDv6V6fqQOD16l5deJWHwN8fbPpBMG87Elw3z2gllMQ4%2F6%2FyS45NtY6Do5MVqdvrK%2FSVF1qlna9Mye9sLA1a%2FtOjjZ%2FmnYEQOm14g6jenbVjUU%2BC78X%2Bkrlh7oG1vm9gxqWFnIpc0xWsYCxOzyR7XR9HtUFCFOklwTLdnF4TNsRn9vckeXio8O53sk9UK32xs5rJpv6pXFWrG93EJ80QCJmjG9My%2FAIeZc9O7ATcwYGZWf20RsMg0%2Fv3%2BNpVE5PQodkepzqjuM1OitAA9mk52zfZyEDqxsAJE5z8Hl5F70eLxhPkU0OD%2B9%2FYGvk%2By%2ByLuPlM1%2FLx550qKQKFEJqiSq9cnIla95Fn%2BVcdyIT0jempFrCf7q7%2F3cg7Hu%2BMyunepJ%2FdQRutYbtuEOsNK7p0ebRHu2S0qqejOvhRcMJ%2FHKXdC%2BMkypn8Ou%2FIL7nVLSRj36hLwSV%2F04YLtvZjpCPKJyIZOMrIrPqPRxWBhLmrYGzPvPUHymPTCFSEeTo8VoKFXTw7%2Bs2PXlp%2FH76BHxq0NiboGmnhcbl9iVeqD3inmlHD7YNEWmwrlCTIdW4qmAw%2Bq%2FLtAY6sQEGreWlLYzXJnn84WGqLKFtxbnuwV9B3qDAxQx5XzjehQuh68%2BvnRwpgnKqK%2FRQfHSiSHx8CJ%2FTSTD5teCW4yaZt5fv3jIVfKlAHVu2mvO%2BZbbStCAHykVIJigoongRmH1bnZ61FH0Vu5x5BwEu7gcfW6Ew%2FQ%2FviUbHnNWpho4pMAKS%2BkIGhiDc0yBSDtorf7UoYVGVeBD1UEA7HZDFg9LltxEXw%2FaeQUxZHI7mX7gLMGY%3D&X-Amz-Algorithm=AWS4-HMAC-SHA256&X-Amz-Date=20240713T203455Z&X-Amz-SignedHeaders=host&X-Amz-Expires=300&X-Amz-Credential=ASIAUPUUPRWEQYFTBTLL%2F20240713%2Fus-east-1%2Fs3%2Faws4_request&X-Amz-Signature=60ba6e221636067250d9e5974bb6357bd24c263cd53b928343f36a9331b1c3ee

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– TallestSkil 1 point 1 year ago +2 / -1

He clearly does. Everyone just worships the ZOG more than ever now, while simultaneously claiming to be against it.

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– Mad_King_Kalak [S] 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

I'm not so sure about that second sentence. More people are Jew pilled than since the 1960s. For example, the % of people that believe in the holocaust is at an all time low. Yet they still "worship ZOG"?

And check out this Gallop poll. The fact that Gallup spins it as "Jews increasing victims of antisemitism" means that more people are naming names, etc....which they see as antisemitism, thus Jew-pilling is on the rise. https://news.gallup.com/poll/646469/americans-show-heightened-concern-antisemitism.aspx?utm_source=alert&utm_medium=email&utm_content=morelink&utm_campaign=syndication

Granted, the Jews appear to as much institutional power as ever, but you made a weird hypothetical where people pretend to name the Jew but still "worship ZOG" when they criticize them, which essentially, is begging the question.

Feel free to do your standard reply, I may or may not bother here.

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– TallestSkil 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

the % of people that believe in the holocaust is at an all time low.

How do we know this? Jewish polls. You trust those?

Yet they still "worship ZOG"?

No one, anywhere, does anything to free their countries from jewish rule. So yes.

you made a weird hypothetical where people pretend to name the Jew but still "worship ZOG" when they criticize them, which essentially, is begging the question.

All the “wink wink, nudge nudge it’s the jews hee hee” comments on the Internet have absolutely no power. Every last one of us types this shit and then goes out and obeys jewish laws, pays jewish taxes, and plays by jewish societal rules.

your standard reply

If you already know you’re wrong and can’t refute what I’ve said, why bother even posting? Fuck’s sake, stop being embarrassing. Open your damned eyes. No one knows. No one cares. We all obey.

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– Mad_King_Kalak [S] 0 points 1 year ago +1 / -1

Your standard reply, mon ami, is a usually mix of strawmanning and goalpost moving, with a liberal dash of, well, libel, because you misquote people. There's nothing you say, usually, worth refuting.. You make some valid points now and again, but really, if nothing you ever do matters, why bother posting at all?

Anyway, yes, that's the best part about the mainstream polls that show major holocaust denial, or ignorance, or apathy. The point is to alarm the Boomer generation that took the holocaust in with their mother's milk. They use this as evidence to support doubling down on the propaganda. But it's the inevitable result of a complete failure of the school system to teach reading and math, let alone 20th Century history. If the result was the opposite, you'd never hear of it.

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– TallestSkil 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Let’s revisit the thread now that we know you’re just spamming.

[no argument, no evidence]

Thank you for admitting that you believe jewish MSM polls sight unseen without even pretending to question their validity.

Thank you for admitting that there are no actions being undertaken anywhere on Earth to remove jewish control from politics, economics, or social life.

Thank you for admitting that discussions on the Internet are not evidence of physical actions being undertaken anywhere on Earth to remove jewish control from politics, economics, or social life.

Thank you for admitting you cannot refute anything I have said on this or any other topic.

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– TallestSkil 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Your standard reply, mon ami, is a usually mix of strawmanning and goalpost moving, with a liberal dash of, well, libel, because you misquote people.

Doesn’t happen and you know it. If it did, you could link to even a single instance. You didn’t even bother pretending to pull one out of context and pretend that the quoted content, even if not word for word, was “misquoted” or a “strawman.” Because you know damned well that what I quote is identical to what the user is saying. Cry about it.

There's nothing you say, usually, worth refuting.

Translation: “I can’t refute anything you say, therefore you didn’t say it.”

if nothing you ever do matters, why bother posting at all?

Literally my line.

If the result was the opposite, you'd never hear of it.

Okay, we’re not hearing of it. And nothing is changing. And jews just have even more power now.

So everything I’ve said in the past is correct, you’re still wrong, and you lied about my behavior.

Get fucked, I guess?

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– Mad_King_Kalak [S] 0 points 1 year ago +1 / -1

You, mon ami, are a combination of the worst form of antisocial autism and glowie shit that ever graced the internet. You're also dense as a box of rocks, nothing penetrates your shields of lack of self awareness.

The only person worse, was this fellow on the Reason Magazine comment section, who was just as bad as you, but those fuckers delete his entire comment history from the internet.

Have a nice weekend.

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– TallestSkil 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

[wall of personal attacks]

[refuses to prove any claims made on any topic of discussion]

[refuses to prove any claims made about opponent personally]

[refuses to refute anything opponent has said on any topic of discussion]

Great, thanks. Reported for spam.

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– free-will-of-choice 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

the % of people that believe in the holocaust is at an all time low. Yet they still "worship ZOG"?

The % according to whom? Did these people get their holocaust percentages from zionist occupied governments? Does consenting to suggested percentages imply ones belief in it?

check out this Gallop poll

a) POLL, verb - "to take the votes of". If one votes by free will of choice and a poll takes the free will of choice of voters, then...?

b) Could few utilize suggestion to SPUR consenting many into GALLOP aka into consenting to progressivism?

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– free-will-of-choice 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

When you can't trust....people will believe anything

Believing implies trusting...both imply ones consent to the suggestion of another, hence giving credibility and authority over self onto another.

collapse of credibility...more gullible

What if giving credit to others implies selling self out? What if giving credit implies being credulous/gull/gullible?

without trusted authorities, ppl just believe anything.

Does that which authorizes ones free will of choice require trust or does trusting another contradict ones FREE will of choice?

If choice can only exist within balance, then does choice need to believe in balance to make choices?

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